James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers·4 mins4 minutes ago Tory source complains BBC TV news makes no mention of #EdStone derision, though last weekend whole story dedicated to PM's "West Ham" moment
Is that a formal complaint to the BBC at all? That seems taking it a little too far, even if they feel aggrieved. Makes them appear desperate for every scrap of coverage.
Lets wait and see what the polls say again. I know you desperately want it to be true but politics isn't about what people on twitter say.
No, let's wait and see how people vote on Thursday and in the mean time let's relax and accept that que sera, sera. All this desperately wanting outcomes, and having tantrums at any sign of contradictory evidence, is a specifically rattled lefty phenomenon.
It's the PB Tories that have been expecting a comfortable win for the blues most lefties (given Ed as the leader) are pleasantly surprised how it's going. I don't know where are you are coming from with all this "rattled lefty" stuff.
The increased level of vitriol certainly seems to me to be coming from the Tory posters who can see their expectations of a Tory majority turning to dust.
James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers·4 mins4 minutes ago Tory source complains BBC TV news makes no mention of #EdStone derision, though last weekend whole story dedicated to PM's "West Ham" moment
Is that a formal complaint to the BBC at all? That seems taking it a little too far, even if they feel aggrieved. Makes them appear desperate for every scrap of coverage.
How stupid can the Tories get ? They can see their "natural right" to rule slip away.
James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers·4 mins4 minutes ago Tory source complains BBC TV news makes no mention of #EdStone derision, though last weekend whole story dedicated to PM's "West Ham" moment
Is that a formal complaint to the BBC at all? That seems taking it a little too far, even if they feel aggrieved. Makes them appear desperate for every scrap of coverage.
How stupid can the Tories get ? They can see their "natural right" to rule slip away.
Lets wait and see what the polls say again. I know you desperately want it to be true but politics isn't about what people on twitter say.
No, let's wait and see how people vote on Thursday and in the mean time let's relax and accept that que sera, sera. All this desperately wanting outcomes, and having tantrums at any sign of contradictory evidence, is a specifically rattled lefty phenomenon.
It's the PB Tories that have been expecting a comfortable win for the blues most lefties (given Ed as the leader) are pleasantly surprised how it's going. I don't know where are you are coming from with all this "rattled lefty" stuff.
The increased level of vitriol certainly seems to me to be coming from the Tory posters who can see their expectations of a Tory majority turning to dust.
I don't know where either of you are coming from, as from what I can tell there are just as many Tories on here who don't think they will win and haven't for quite a long time, and although I detect a bit more lefty confidence in recent weeks, there's still plenty of lefties who are determinedly pessimistic.
Lets wait and see what the polls say again. I know you desperately want it to be true but politics isn't about what people on twitter say.
No, let's wait and see how people vote on Thursday and in the mean time let's relax and accept that que sera, sera. All this desperately wanting outcomes, and having tantrums at any sign of contradictory evidence, is a specifically rattled lefty phenomenon.
It's the PB Tories that have been expecting a comfortable win for the blues most lefties (given Ed as the leader) are pleasantly surprised how it's going. I don't know where are you are coming from with all this "rattled lefty" stuff.
The increased level of vitriol certainly seems to me to be coming from the Tory posters who can see their expectations of a Tory majority turning to dust.
Ishmael X reckoned the long term trend in polling would see Dave comfortably remain PM.
It could go either way but comfortable looks unlikely
James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers·4 mins4 minutes ago Tory source complains BBC TV news makes no mention of #EdStone derision, though last weekend whole story dedicated to PM's "West Ham" moment
How dare you' Posted at 19.53 Fifteen minutes in and it has descended into chaos. There's clearly no love lost between Ruth Davidson and Jim Murphy. She accuses the Scots Labour leader of "an outright lie" over claims he made on benefit sanctions.
"He's peddling a falsehood that he knows is fictitious," she says, prompting Mr Murphy's to respond: "How dare you call me a liar."
It's hard to make out what they're saying now as they're both shouting over each other.
Lets wait and see what the polls say again. I know you desperately want it to be true but politics isn't about what people on twitter say.
No, let's wait and see how people vote on Thursday and in the mean time let's relax and accept that que sera, sera. All this desperately wanting outcomes, and having tantrums at any sign of contradictory evidence, is a specifically rattled lefty phenomenon.
It's the PB Tories that have been expecting a comfortable win for the blues ...
James Chapman (Mail)@jameschappers·4 mins4 minutes ago Tory source complains BBC TV news makes no mention of #EdStone derision, though last weekend whole story dedicated to PM's "West Ham" moment
Ruth accuses Jim of making up people on benefit sanctions
Quite a lot of the 'horror stories' of sanctions ive heard are nothing of the sort (not to say that when you have a million sanctions you wont have unjust incidents).
The whole "my daughter was in hospital and i was sanctioned" or the "i had a job interview on signing on day and was sanctioned" are usually fictions, or perversions of the actual facts.
"Allies of Ed Miliband have discussed how to keep the Labour leader in his post if both main parties fail to win a majority in Thursday’s general election, as part of preparations for a possible second election months later."
It's noteworthy mainly for an on-the-record quote from Andy Burnham:
"Andy Burnham, shadow health secretary, who is expected to run in any future Labour leadership contest, said Mr Miliband had emerged stronger from the election campaign.
Asked whether the Labour leader could remain in the post even if he failed to become prime minister, Mr Burnham told the Financial Times: “Of course he can.” "
Ms Sturgeon says the SNP would not vote for a Labour budget that proposed more spending cuts - saying the party would fight for a fairer deal.
"The cat is out the bag," declares Mr Murphy. "The SNP are clear that after Friday they are willing to bring down a Labour budget and Labour's Queen Speech."
Jim Muprhy insists that Labour will not do a post-election deal with the SNP if it falls short of a majority.
But how will you get a budget passed if you don't win a majority? Mr Murphy turns the question on Nicola Sturgeon - and challenges her to say under what circumstances she would vote against Labour and with the Conservatives.
Ms Sturgeon says the SNP would not vote for a Labour budget that proposed more spending cuts
'I wouldn't call it a gaffe. I'd call it a smart move. Firstly, I think it makes Ed stand out from the crowd. To the ordinary voter, it distinguishes him from the other opportunists who live by the precept: "What do I care about the rubbish I talked yesterday to get elected?" It brings the issue into focus. Secondly, take note that there is nothing about the SNP on the pledges... Ed's killing 2 birds with 1 stone.'
Your having a laugh,it's not a gaffe it's taking voters as being completely stupid.
There is absolutely nothing in the 6 pledges that can be measured it's just vacuous waffle.
'Homes to buy and action on rents'.
We already have homes to buy so half that pledge has been achieved in opposition!.
If we had put his pledge of 1 million new build houses by 2020 then people might take it seriously.
'Controls on immigration' - as we already have controls that pledge has again been achieved in opposition
'An NHS with time to care' - Any clue how that will be measured?
It's bullshit on stilts providing a good laugh for the bank holiday weekend.
'I wouldn't call it a gaffe. I'd call it a smart move. Firstly, I think it makes Ed stand out from the crowd. To the ordinary voter, it distinguishes him from the other opportunists who live by the precept: "What do I care about the rubbish I talked yesterday to get elected?" It brings the issue into focus. Secondly, take note that there is nothing about the SNP on the pledges... Ed's killing 2 birds with 1 stone.'
Your having a laugh,it's not a gaffe it's taking voters as being completely stupid.
There is absolutely nothing in the 6 pledges that can be measured it's just vacuous waffle.
'Homes to buy and action on rents'.
We already have homes to buy so half that pledge has been achieved in opposition!.
If we had put his pledge of 1 million new build houses by 2020 then people might take it seriously.
'Controls on immigration' - as we already have controls that pledge has again been achieved in opposition
'An NHS with time to care' - Any clue how that will be measured?
It's bullshit on stilts providing a good laugh for the bank holiday weekend.
Jim Muprhy insists that Labour will not do a post-election deal with the SNP if it falls short of a majority.
But how will you get a budget passed if you don't win a majority? Mr Murphy turns the question on Nicola Sturgeon - and challenges her to say under what circumstances she would vote against Labour and with the Conservatives.
Ms Sturgeon says the SNP would not vote for a Labour budget that proposed more spending cuts
Another stunningly inept performance by Jim Murphy once again. Shouting over everyone doing his best impersonation of mr angry is not a good look. At least his 9 years at Uni without getting a degree will no doubt be good experience in his new role that he will start on the 8th.. We need a new school Janitor, no degree required.
Jim Muprhy insists that Labour will not do a post-election deal with the SNP if it falls short of a majority.
But how will you get a budget passed if you don't win a majority? Mr Murphy turns the question on Nicola Sturgeon - and challenges her to say under what circumstances she would vote against Labour and with the Conservatives.
Ms Sturgeon says the SNP would not vote for a Labour budget that proposed more spending cuts
Another stunningly inept performance by Jim Murphy once again. Shouting over everyone doing his best impersonation of mr angry is not a good look. At least his 9 years at Uni without getting a degree will no doubt be good experience in his new role that he will start on the 8th.. We need a new school Janitor, no degree required.
Sir i know jannies, jannies are some of my best friends, Murphy, aint fit to clean the bogs.
No self respecting Jannie would work next to that loser.
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The increased level of vitriol certainly seems to me to be coming from the Tory posters who can see their expectations of a Tory majority turning to dust.
Do people think that the Con odds at least to some extent reflect what has been seen of postal votes?
This is sheer desperation.
Will the usual Mon Populus and Ashcroft both move to Tue? Will that be the final poll for those two pollsters?
What about everyone else?
Where has this proud party come down to ? Now just a Tory b!tch. So why will they not be in a coalition with UKIP.
It could go either way but comfortable looks unlikely
Posted at 19.53
Fifteen minutes in and it has descended into chaos. There's clearly no love lost between Ruth Davidson and Jim Murphy. She accuses the Scots Labour leader of "an outright lie" over claims he made on benefit sanctions.
"He's peddling a falsehood that he knows is fictitious," she says, prompting Mr Murphy's to respond: "How dare you call me a liar."
It's hard to make out what they're saying now as they're both shouting over each other.
Rattled.
MASSIVE
The whole "my daughter was in hospital and i was sanctioned" or the "i had a job interview on signing on day and was sanctioned" are usually fictions, or perversions of the actual facts.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89e4d760-eff1-11e4-bb88-00144feab7de.html#axzz3Z6B0YJwe
"Allies of Ed Miliband have discussed how to keep the Labour leader in his post if both main parties fail to win a majority in Thursday’s general election, as part of preparations for a possible second election months later."
It's noteworthy mainly for an on-the-record quote from Andy Burnham:
"Andy Burnham, shadow health secretary, who is expected to run in any future Labour leadership contest, said Mr Miliband had emerged stronger from the election campaign.
Asked whether the Labour leader could remain in the post even if he failed to become prime minister, Mr Burnham told the Financial Times: “Of course he can.” "
"The cat is out the bag," declares Mr Murphy. "The SNP are clear that after Friday they are willing to bring down a Labour budget and Labour's Queen Speech."
But how will you get a budget passed if you don't win a majority? Mr Murphy turns the question on Nicola Sturgeon - and challenges her to say under what circumstances she would vote against Labour and with the Conservatives.
Ms Sturgeon says the SNP would not vote for a Labour budget that proposed more spending cuts
'I wouldn't call it a gaffe. I'd call it a smart move. Firstly, I think it makes Ed stand out from the crowd. To the ordinary voter, it distinguishes him from the other opportunists who live by the precept: "What do I care about the rubbish I talked yesterday to get elected?" It brings the issue into focus. Secondly, take note that there is nothing about the SNP on the pledges... Ed's killing 2 birds with 1 stone.'
Your having a laugh,it's not a gaffe it's taking voters as being completely stupid.
There is absolutely nothing in the 6 pledges that can be measured it's just vacuous waffle.
'Homes to buy and action on rents'.
We already have homes to buy so half that pledge has been achieved in opposition!.
If we had put his pledge of 1 million new build houses by 2020 then people might take it seriously.
'Controls on immigration' - as we already have controls that pledge has again been achieved in opposition
'An NHS with time to care' - Any clue how that will be measured?
It's bullshit on stilts providing a good laugh for the bank holiday weekend.
1950 Ind 9% S Korea7.6 %
1960 Ind 7.5% SK 11.8%
1970 Ind 6.5% SK 14.8%
1990 Ind 5.9 SK 24.8%
1995 Ind 5.2% SK 42.4%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_rate_of_growth#/media/File:Per_capita_GDP_of_South_Asian_economies_&_SKorea_(1950-1995).png
One economic model seems better than the other over this period. Why?
1950 Ind 9% S Korea7.6 %
1960 Ind 7.5% SK 11.8%
1970 Ind 6.5% SK 14.8%
1990 Ind 5.9 SK 24.8%
1995 Ind 5.2% SK 42.4%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_rate_of_growth#/media/File:Per_capita_GDP_of_South_Asian_economies_&_SKorea_(1950-1995).png
One economic model seems better than the other over this period. Why?
Another stunningly inept performance by Jim Murphy once again. Shouting over everyone doing his best impersonation of mr angry is not a good look. At least his 9 years at Uni without getting a degree will no doubt be good experience in his new role that he will start on the 8th.. We need a new school Janitor, no degree required.
No self respecting Jannie would work next to that loser.