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  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,505

    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11528903/Green-Belt-is-safe-under-us-until-2020-Conservative-manifesto-will-say.html

    "The Green Belt will be safe for another five years under a Conservative Government, David Cameron will pledge next week.

    The Prime Minister and Tory leader will say that the protected greenfield land around towns and cities will not get any smaller in its manifesto next week."

    I'm sure this will have been extensively poll tested but I can't help feeling it's increasingly questionable electorally. They risk being painted as protecting the interests of the 'have houses' against the young.

    So a London home owner I will personally benefit from this. But it is economically absurd and irrational.
    It's another dickhead policy. Really is this the best the Conservatives have to offer ?
    What I thought was interesting was the train fare price freeze policy yesterday. It is how that win any votes in key marginals like in the midlands.
    More fun will be how Cameron tries to square the circle of oil in Surrey. Will he sell out to big corporates or stop one of our few growth industries.

    As for what is cameron doing for those outside his comfort zone - precious little.
    I want to know when it is being declared Extra Regio
    I'd have thought this will be good news for you short term. I can see HMG wanting to let local communities keep more of their oil money. In Scotland it's to shut you up and in the SE to bribe them to let exploitation go ahead.
    Alan, no chance of us ever seeing our oil money, how would they develop London without it.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    edited April 2015

    Yes that's true but as you say the extra level of hassle puts a lot of people off. Really we need to get back to some simple ways of planning where we house people. The standard approach of building mega estates of houses that all look the same isn't much use in a lot of areas.

    There is moreover still lots of land and older buildings which is nor being used and where more housing would fit easily within the exisiting infrastructure. I drive trhough S Birmingham most days on the way to work and there are loads of old factory and retail buildings which could be converted to sensible living accommodation.

    Simple ways of planning have a habit of working for a lucky few, and not working for everyone else.

    There is no reason for housing estates of new builds to look the same. I could refer you to my own village, where they had the cunning plan of having four developers. Each had their own areas of land, but these were interspersed in smallish blocks. Hence faux-wooden barn conversions intermingle with town houses, to (in my opinion) reasonable effect. Looking out my window, I can see several different styles of houses in a pleasant and relatively traffic-free mall where children can play safely as there are ninety-degree bends at either end.

    It works. Even better, as the houses are made of differing materials and age at slightly different rates, they do not necessarily look like they were built at the same time. Differing roof lines and pitches, even when the houses are in a line, also have a positive effect.

    Agree about redevelopment of existing structures where possible. But again, it needs to be done right (although there are companies with plenty of experience of doing it right).

    Oh, and SuDS is a must on any new development. ;-)
    That does of the new towns as more of a showpiece for modernism, it could just work.
    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...
    Yes I'd still say there is a modern style. It's mostly dictated by use of materials. Steel. glass concrete. I'd hope we've moved on from the 1960s and 70s. Rather than imitate the States again I'd like to see us reflect more of a Northern European influence as it's more in keeping with our climate. No point pretending we're in California.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11528903/Green-Belt-is-safe-under-us-until-2020-Conservative-manifesto-will-say.html

    "The Green Belt will be safe for another five years under a Conservative Government, David Cameron will pledge next week.

    The Prime Minister and Tory leader will say that the protected greenfield land around towns and cities will not get any smaller in its manifesto next week."

    I'm sure this will have been extensively poll tested but I can't help feeling it's increasingly questionable electorally. They risk being painted as protecting the interests of the 'have houses' against the young.

    So a London home owner I will personally benefit from this. But it is economically absurd and irrational.
    It's another dickhead policy. Really is this the best the Conservatives have to offer ?
    What I thought was interesting was the train fare price freeze policy yesterday. It is how that win any votes in key marginals like in the midlands.
    More fun will be how Cameron tries to square the circle of oil in Surrey. Will he sell out to big corporates or stop one of our few growth industries.

    As for what is cameron doing for those outside his comfort zone - precious little.
    I want to know when it is being declared Extra Regio
    I'd have thought this will be good news for you short term. I can see HMG wanting to let local communities keep more of their oil money. In Scotland it's to shut you up and in the SE to bribe them to let exploitation go ahead.
    Alan, no chance of us ever seeing our oil money, how would they develop London without it.
    Just keep printing more money like they always do :-)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Tindall sounds like he's had around £1500 on Monbeg Dude. Chump change to him of course, but I think there are worse 40-1 bets !
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498


    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...

    Yes, there is a set of distinct architectural styles called 'modernist':
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_architecture

    In fact, we've moved on to postmodern and neomodern.

    Personally, I find most modernist architecture unappealing. But it can work for single signature buildings or very small developments. However I doubt it would work as part of a 3,000 home development, and it would be a brave developer who tried. People are just to tied to traditional-looking houses with gardens and garages.

    BBTW, don't get me started on the horrors of brutalism. ;-)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Best of luck everyone !
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited April 2015
    Charles said:

    Marf said:

    Thank you, Mike - I really appreciate it. I've never enjoyed such freedom as on PB. And it does seem crowd-funding is the way forward for artists who publish online.

    Do you still have the original of the Richard III cartoon available?
    Marf, I've the same query about the "Non Dom" 'toon:
    ("But I'm a job creator---I personally employ seventeen accountants")
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Good afternoon. Just made a donation. I'm a big fan of Marf.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,869

    Yes that's true but as you say the extra level of hassle puts a lot of people off. Really we need to get back to some simple ways of planning where we house people. The standard approach of building mega estates of houses that all look the same isn't much use in a lot of areas.

    There is moreover still lots of land and older buildings which is nor being used and where more housing would fit easily within the exisiting infrastructure. I drive trhough S Birmingham most days on the way to work and there are loads of old factory and retail buildings which could be converted to sensible living accommodation.

    Simple ways of planning have a habit of working for a lucky few, and not working for everyone else.

    There is no reason for housing estates of new builds to look the same. I could refer you to my own village, where they had the cunning plan of having four developers. Each had their own areas of land, but these were interspersed in smallish blocks. Hence faux-wooden barn conversions intermingle with town houses, to (in my opinion) reasonable effect. Looking out my window, I can see several different styles of houses in a pleasant and relatively traffic-free mall where children can play safely as there are ninety-degree bends at either end.

    It works. Even better, as the houses are made of differing materials and age at slightly different rates, they do not necessarily look like they were built at the same time. Differing roof lines and pitches, even when the houses are in a line, also have a positive effect.

    Agree about redevelopment of existing structures where possible. But again, it needs to be done right (although there are companies with plenty of experience of doing it right).

    Oh, and SuDS is a must on any new development. ;-)
    That does of the new towns as more of a showpiece for modernism, it could just work.
    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...
    Yes I'd still say there is a modern style. It's mostly dictated by use of materials. Steel. glass concrete. I'd hope we've moved on from the 1960s and 70s. Rather than imitate the States again I'd like to see us reflect more of a Northern European influence as it's more in keeping with our climate. No point pretending we're in California.
    I'm still not entirely convinced it hangs together as a 'style', but perhaps it will when viewed through the lense of history.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Pulpstar said:

    Tindall sounds like he's had around £1500 on Monbeg Dude. Chump change to him of course, but I think there are worse 40-1 bets !

    Lol
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Surnames
    Someone here (Mr Senior?) was asking about surnames linked to daughter/mother the other day.

    I've just come across the following:
    "Matronymic ones, surnames derived from a female given name, include Molson (from Moll, for Mary), Madison (from Maud), Emmott (from Emma), and Marriott (from Mary)."

    http://blogs.ancestry.co.uk/cm/there-are-7-types-of-english-surnames-which-one-is-yours/
  • I could cry.

    I thought I had put £100 on Many Clouds at 33/1

    But turns out I only put a quid on.

  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,328
    Well, the eldest Cyclefree junior has just won his bet on Many Clouds with odds of 33-1!!

    Last year I won with Pineau de Re. Let's hope for a hatrick next year!!!
  • Labour and the Conservatives will draw the election by getting an almost identical amount of votes, Britain’s public has predicted in an exclusive poll for The Telegraph.

    Just a tenth of a percentage point will separate the proportion of votes won by the two parties after all the ballots are cast on May 7, the electorate has forecast.

    But in a boost for the Tories, David Cameron and George Osborne have overtaken Labour’s Ed Miliband and Ed Balls as the pair who would most help families with the “cost of living”.

    There was also good news for the Liberal Democrats who are now expected to come third – confirming recent polls showing the party has skipped ahead of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) in the last few weeks.

    http://tinyurl.com/mbygqu4
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,328

    I could cry.

    I thought I had put £100 on Many Clouds at 33/1

    But turns out I only put a quid on.

    Son put £10 on. I've rarely seen him move so fast to collect his winnings.......!

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Balthazar King is up !
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Miss Cyclefree, congrats to your offspring :)

    Mr. Eagles, there there. Look on the bright side, you still won enough to buy several good books.

    And it could be worse. You could've tipped a 70/1 shot and then failed to back it yourself.
  • Spurs not to score a goal again for the 2014/15 season.
  • @TSE

    Commisserations.

    I check all bets over £50. Can't stand that awfull feeling when you look for the winning bet in Accounts and wonder whether you did it right.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498
    Watching the build-up to the women's boat race.

    I want to take up rowing.

    But only if I could be in a women's crew. ;-)
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Watching the build-up to the women's boat race.

    I want to take up rowing.

    But only if I could be in a women's crew. ;-)

    The women cox's in the male crews have it lucky then...
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited April 2015

    There was also good news for the Liberal Democrats who are now expected to come third – confirming recent polls showing the party has skipped ahead of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) in the last few weeks.

    http://tinyurl.com/mbygqu4

    That's an odd one. Prof Curtice has done a 'poll of polls' for the Indy. He found LD 9% vs UKIP 15%.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-labour-remains-strong-in-polls-despite-personal-tory-attacks-10168282.html
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723

    Labour and the Conservatives will draw the election by getting an almost identical amount of votes, Britain’s public has predicted in an exclusive poll for The Telegraph.

    Just a tenth of a percentage point will separate the proportion of votes won by the two parties after all the ballots are cast on May 7, the electorate has forecast.

    But in a boost for the Tories, David Cameron and George Osborne have overtaken Labour’s Ed Miliband and Ed Balls as the pair who would most help families with the “cost of living”.

    There was also good news for the Liberal Democrats who are now expected to come third – confirming recent polls showing the party has skipped ahead of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) in the last few weeks.

    http://tinyurl.com/mbygqu4

    Suggests that, in fact, nothing has changed this week - bit of relief for Con.

    Con also now favoured on cost of living - good for Con.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    There was also good news for the Liberal Democrats who are now expected to come third – confirming recent polls showing the party has skipped ahead of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) in the last few weeks.

    http://tinyurl.com/mbygqu4

    That's an odd one. Prof Curtice has done a 'poll of polls' for the Indy. He found LD 9% vs UKIP 15%.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-labour-remains-strong-in-polls-despite-personal-tory-attacks-10168282.html
    The Wisdom Index should not be confused with standard polls
    In this survey sample is asked to estimate party shares not state voting intention.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    @TSE

    Commisserations.

    I check all bets over £50. Can't stand that awfull feeling when you look for the winning bet in Accounts and wonder whether you did it right.

    Reckon over 7 miles Spring Heeled would have hacked up :D

    Good value anyway I reckon.
  • There was also good news for the Liberal Democrats who are now expected to come third – confirming recent polls showing the party has skipped ahead of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) in the last few weeks.

    http://tinyurl.com/mbygqu4

    That's an odd one. Prof Curtice has done a 'poll of polls' for the Indy. He found LD 9% vs UKIP 15%.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-labour-remains-strong-in-polls-despite-personal-tory-attacks-10168282.html
    The Wisdom Index poll before this, also had the Lib Dems ahead of UKIP
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012


    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...

    Yes, there is a set of distinct architectural styles called 'modernist':
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_architecture

    In fact, we've moved on to postmodern and neomodern.

    Personally, I find most modernist architecture unappealing. But it can work for single signature buildings or very small developments. However I doubt it would work as part of a 3,000 home development, and it would be a brave developer who tried. People are just to tied to traditional-looking houses with gardens and garages.

    BBTW, don't get me started on the horrors of brutalism. ;-)
    Modernism would depend on modern methods or materials, concrete, steel, glass, and as such not suitable to mass or developers housing because of cost and maintenance and flexibility. Conventional housing with bricks and slates and timber and plasterboard offers simplicity cheapness and flexibility in construction but at the same time it still offers variety .
    Le Corbusier built houses on stilts and 'machines for living in', but the fact that the world is not full of them tells its own story.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    The thing about the Wisdom is that it is saying that people expect UKIP share to fall (from where it now is in polls).

    Which is a good guide to saying that that is what will actually happen.

    People think, deep down, that when it comes to the crunch some current UKIPers will fold.
  • marktheowlmarktheowl Posts: 169
    Well, I suppose my run of good luck had to end some time. Last year I bet on Pineau De Re and had it in the pub sweepstake. Just glad BK is ok.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11528903/Green-Belt-is-safe-under-us-until-2020-Conservative-manifesto-will-say.html

    "The Green Belt will be safe for another five years under a Conservative Government, David Cameron will pledge next week.

    The Prime Minister and Tory leader will say that the protected greenfield land around towns and cities will not get any smaller in its manifesto next week."

    I'm sure this will have been extensively poll tested but I can't help feeling it's increasingly questionable electorally. They risk being painted as protecting the interests of the 'have houses' against the young.

    So a London home owner I will personally benefit from this. But it is economically absurd and irrational.
    It's another dickhead policy. Really is this the best the Conservatives have to offer ?
    What I thought was interesting was the train fare price freeze policy yesterday. It is how that win any votes in key marginals like in the midlands.
    More fun will be how Cameron tries to square the circle of oil in Surrey. Will he sell out to big corporates or stop one of our few growth industries.

    As for what is cameron doing for those outside his comfort zone - precious little.
    I want to know when it is being declared Extra Regio
    I'd have thought this will be good news for you short term. I can see HMG wanting to let local communities keep more of their oil money. In Scotland it's to shut you up and in the SE to bribe them to let exploitation go ahead.
    'exploitation' 'bribes'?
    You have gone bonkers
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,302


    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...

    Personally, I find most modernist architecture unappealing. But it can work for single signature buildings or very small developments. However I doubt it would work as part of a 3,000 home development, and it would be a brave developer who tried. People are just to tied to traditional-looking houses with gardens and garages.
    The expectation that it should befall to a single developer to build a 3,000 home monolith illustrates perfectly why our present planning system creates a dysfunctional market with dysfunctional outcomes.

    We woud be wiser to look at how successful development in the past was organised. Perhaps the best example is the way in which the managed piecemeal development of the Ladbroke Estate was able to create a cohesive whole. You'd think this would be close to the heart of the modern Conservative leadership. 'A Notting Hill in every town' is certainly a more aspirational message than 'No more building after mine.'
  • Can I just put on the record. The Ladbrokes website is an absolute shocker.

    Can't log in via mobile and when I log on PC, none of bets (winners) have been settled.

    Not happy.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498
    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Just to lower the tone again.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfxzlq4

    Sensitive souls look away now - 1969 Private Eye Cover with a women's rowing eight.
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    This Tory manifesto best be something really special the way its being built up.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498


    Is there such a thing as 'modernism'? Georgian architecture harked back to Roman and Greek architecture, the Gothic revival harked back to mediaeval architecture. Both are now seen as iconic eras for building design in their own right. 1960's architecture on the other hand...

    Personally, I find most modernist architecture unappealing. But it can work for single signature buildings or very small developments. However I doubt it would work as part of a 3,000 home development, and it would be a brave developer who tried. People are just to tied to traditional-looking houses with gardens and garages.
    The expectation that it should befall to a single developer to build a 3,000 home monolith illustrates perfectly why our present planning system creates a dysfunctional market with dysfunctional outcomes.

    We woud be wiser to look at how successful development in the past was organised. Perhaps the best example is the way in which the managed piecemeal development of the Ladbroke Estate was able to create a cohesive whole. You'd think this would be close to the heart of the modern Conservative leadership. 'A Notting Hill in every town' is certainly a more aspirational message than 'No more building after mine.'
    You won't build the required number of houses (at least traditional houses) piecemeal; at least in developments that are nice for people to live. Work on Cambourne started in 1998 and it is still not complete (around 4,000 homes planned). According to a friend who has been here from the literal beginning, it has only been working as a community for the past seven or eight years as the facilities have built up. Even now, it faces problems.

    I think (might be wrong) that both main parties have committed to building 200,000 houses per year. You can only do that at anywhere near affordable price by building big developments.

    But if we do that, we have to make them communities,
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    IOS said:

    This Tory manifesto best be something really special the way its being built up.

    So far the only person I've seen building it up is you.

    Is Labour's really that bad ?
  • Well, I suppose my run of good luck had to end some time. Last year I bet on Pineau De Re and had it in the pub sweepstake. Just glad BK is ok.

    Yeah, not my best GN ever but a good race, good winner and good for the sport.

    Think I'll have a go at the Boat Race. Fewer runners.
  • Pulpstar said:

    @TSE

    Commisserations.

    I check all bets over £50. Can't stand that awfull feeling when you look for the winning bet in Accounts and wonder whether you did it right.

    Reckon over 7 miles Spring Heeled would have hacked up :D

    Good value anyway I reckon.
    That was my main bet but I did wind up having a number of smaller bets. Every animal I backed finished, but none in the money.

    Hmmmm....not sure how pleased to feel about that.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    IOS said:

    This Tory manifesto best be something really special the way its being built up.

    reported that Osbourne will raise IHT threshold to £1 million but won't that play into "the party of the rich" view of the Tories?

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Con should raise IHT threshold to something like £600k or £650k.

    Would take vast majority of homeowners out of it - but keep it below £1m to avoid accusations of helping the rich.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    MikeL said:

    Con should raise IHT threshold to something like £600k or £650k.

    Would take vast majority of homeowners out of it - but keep it below £1m to avoid accusations of helping the rich.

    I agree. Avoid the million number, always sounds bad to give a tax cut to millionaires.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Alanbrooke

    Shut the LOL up! Read the paper editorials as well as people like Con home!

    They are desperate for a positives on the door step.
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20
    Toms said:

    Charles said:

    Marf said:

    Thank you, Mike - I really appreciate it. I've never enjoyed such freedom as on PB. And it does seem crowd-funding is the way forward for artists who publish online.

    Do you still have the original of the Richard III cartoon available?
    Marf, I've the same query about the "Non Dom" 'toon:
    ("But I'm a job creator---I personally employ seventeen accountants")
    Hi Toms, hi Charles! Sorry, just got back from a walk with my dog - and catching up now. Yes, I do have the originals of the Non-Dom toon and also the Richard III cartoon. My email is marfcartoons@btinternet.com.

    Thank you for thinking of those. I really enjoyed drawing them.

  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    On inheritance - am I right in thinking that the figure is actually double. As both people in a married relationship get it?

    So 1 million is actually 2 million?
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20
    AndyJS said:

    Good afternoon. Just made a donation. I'm a big fan of Marf.

    Thank you ....
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Rolls Royces are made in Goodwood in Sussex. Crewe makes Bentleys.

    I know you'll appreciate that pointless pedantry :-)
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20
    Charles said:

    Marf said:

    Thank you, Mike - I really appreciate it. I've never enjoyed such freedom as on PB. And it does seem crowd-funding is the way forward for artists who publish online.

    Do you still have the original of the Richard III cartoon available?
    Thank you, Charles - I do. My email is marfcartoons@btinternet.com
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Pulpstar said:

    @TSE

    Commisserations.

    I check all bets over £50. Can't stand that awfull feeling when you look for the winning bet in Accounts and wonder whether you did it right.

    Reckon over 7 miles Spring Heeled would have hacked up :D

    Good value anyway I reckon.
    That was my main bet but I did wind up having a number of smaller bets. Every animal I backed finished, but none in the money.

    Hmmmm....not sure how pleased to feel about that.
    Druids Nephew was the one horse that had "bad luck" there I reckon, was a weird fall.
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20

    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Marf, some independent/self-published authors are going down crowd-funding as a route. Not sure it works as well for writers ...

    Great to hear from you, Morris - we miss you!





  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    IOS said:

    Alanbrooke

    Shut the LOL up! Read the paper editorials as well as people like Con home!

    They are desperate for a positives on the door step.

    Really you are a bit of a bedwetter at times. the campiagn won't make much difference. It will come down to 150 or so marginals as it always does and whether anyone in them can be arsed to vote for a couple of numpties.
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20
    Moses_ said:

    In for a penny in for a pound

    Oh and first

    Edit - or maybe not first

    Donated anyway.

    Thank you, Moses ...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Rolls Royces are made in Goodwood in Sussex. Crewe makes Bentleys.

    I know you'll appreciate that pointless pedantry :-)
    Oh aye, I'm all for pointless pedantry.

    It's a category that includes most of my posts ...
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Marf said:

    Toms said:

    Charles said:

    Marf said:

    Thank you, Mike - I really appreciate it. I've never enjoyed such freedom as on PB. And it does seem crowd-funding is the way forward for artists who publish online.

    Do you still have the original of the Richard III cartoon available?
    Marf, I've the same query about the "Non Dom" 'toon:
    ("But I'm a job creator---I personally employ seventeen accountants")
    Hi Toms, hi Charles! Sorry, just got back from a walk with my dog - and catching up now. Yes, I do have the originals of the Non-Dom toon and also the Richard III cartoon. My email is marfcartoons@btinternet.com.

    Thank you for thinking of those. I really enjoyed drawing them.

    Do you have a website with them up for sale? I would quite like a browse.
  • MarfMarf Posts: 20

    Glad to donate £10

    Thank you, TC ...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,137

    IOS said:

    This Tory manifesto best be something really special the way its being built up.

    reported that Osbourne will raise IHT threshold to £1 million but won't that play into "the party of the rich" view of the Tories?

    At least we wont be invited to join the government of Great Britain again. I'm still waiting my invitation....
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Derby County do seem to have thrown it away (rather like Forest did earlier in the season). I was rather hoping for an East Midlands Derby derby next year. Not least for a nailed on 6 points.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Well on No Record time here :) Tipped up by someone who seemed to have a clue at 1.01 yesterday so 1.02 looks good ;)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Derby County do seem to have thrown it away (rather like Forest did earlier in the season). I was rather hoping for an East Midlands Derby derby next year. Not least for a nailed on 6 points.
    If Derby do go up, I'd like to see us beat the one record we hold and the only one that matters.

    At least, I assume we still hold the record of the least points scored in a premiership season? ;-)
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    IOS said:

    This Tory manifesto best be something really special the way its being built up.

    I think they are still writing it.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    edited April 2015
    @John_N

    The problem is that you seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of the SNP, Scottish politics and the more general difference between Ideological and Interest based politics.

    You are applying the UK framework of self-interested (and locality-interested) politics which predominates the Westminster Parties of the LibLabConKip and applying it to the SNP. This breaks your entire analysis because the SNP are fundamentally an Ideological party - Independence is the only goal. It drives everything else.

    Independence drives the need to be a popular government, to govern well, to appeal to all, to enfranchise not dis-enfranchise. The SNP today have 50% of the VI but they are STILL trying to expand that. They could turtle into a defensive strategy to maintain this - they aren't they're still playing politics to enchance the vote even further.

    No doubt there are a few self-interested individuals in the SNP. But for every Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh there are dozens of Rosie Cunninghams. And for that vast majority of the party they will never, EVER do anything to harm the cause of independence. Your fundamental misunderstanding of the SNP is why you are wrong. They don't want Pork (just the opposite the SNP genuinely believe Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK - and historically they are 100% correct), they don't want Power (hence tehy can categorially rule out a deal with the Tories), they don't want Privilege (check out the number of SNP Lords - the total is zero, accepting a Lordship leads to immediate Expulsion from the party).

    Working with the Tories is toxic in Scotland. There is no argument the SNP could use to work with the Tories at Westminster, be it FFA for EVEL or anything else short of immediate dissolution of the United Kingdom (and the Tories will not be putting that in a Queens speech).
  • marktheowlmarktheowl Posts: 169

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Really disappointed with this, they've been far and away the best footballing side in the championship for the past two years. Went away there last season and they were so good it was almost a pleasure to see us slaughtered 3-0.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Jessop, does seem quite the cock-up.

    Miss Marf, I'm on all the time :P

    Well, maybe a little less often in the evenings, but still on most days.

    As an aside, would you be interested in a guest-post for my blog: thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk about crowd-funding and the like for artists? If so, send me a Vanilla message and we can discuss it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Cambdrige getting a shellacking here.

    150 on the exchanges. Not tempting.
  • Gold standard = Opiniium, Spurs not so much. Heap of sh/..e
  • Tories returning home after Easter in more senses than one....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,975
    edited April 2015
    Approval ratings

    Apart from David Cameron, who never received anything in the way of a debate bounce, all the leaders have seen their numbers fall back following last week's boosts.

    David Cameron retains his lead with a net approval rating of +2%.

    Ed Miliband falls from -15% to -18%. Nigel Farage has slipped back into third place from -13% to -20% and Nick Clegg has dropped from -30% to -33%.

    http://ourinsight.opinium.co.uk/survey-results/political-polling-7th-april-2015
  • felix said:
    Guardian Headline coming soon of "The Day the Polls turned"
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,498
    Well done Oxford.

    Hopefully I won't have to say that next year.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,173

    felix said:
    Guardian Headline coming soon of "The Day the Polls turned"
    Next to the picture of the flying pigs?
  • Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
  • Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    Don't knock it.

    I have a friend who is a Con to Kipper defector, who was fully intending to vote purple in May.

    That front page convinced him to vote Tory, he hates the EU, but he hates the Guardian even more, and wants to do everything in his power to make sure the Guardian has its own Chicago Tribune moment.
  • Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.
  • Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
    Do you have any scholarly articles by Sion Simon so we can judge his political acumen?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    Back from the outer reaches of Tuscany with crappy internet, but believe it not, still snow over 900 metres. Just donated 20 notes to the "MARF is brill fund."
    When I see these donate pledges I try and oblige because this site is superb, and offers great entertainment, notably MARF's sketches.
    So please, a little nudge to others- it takes less than a minute to use PAYPAL- one can always make it back by taking some of the tips here.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    felix said:
    Guardian Headline coming soon of "The Day the Polls turned"
    (again)
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    Hi Marf - Just donated using my wife Elise's paypal - keep up the great work.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    SNP 45% from what I can work out on the tables.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966

    Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
    Do you have any scholarly articles by Sion Simon so we can judge his political acumen?
    I can recommend this one, a classic of it's time

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
  • Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
    Do you have any scholarly articles by Sion Simon so we can judge his political acumen?
    Not to hand, I think there was a piece once that was linked to a couple of times... was it about happy warriors and their invincibility or something like that?
  • Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
  • Indigo said:

    Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
    Do you have any scholarly articles by Sion Simon so we can judge his political acumen?
    I can recommend this one, a classic of it's time

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
    Many thanks.
  • Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
    Mr Tyndall too I think.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966

    Indigo said:

    Mr. Eagles, very kind of the Guardian to remind us of hubris and nemesis.

    I believe Sion Simon might (in time) come to be seen as having advised on that front page....
    Do you have any scholarly articles by Sion Simon so we can judge his political acumen?
    I can recommend this one, a classic of it's time

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
    Many thanks.
    Then there was his famous video

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn4IpyVViw4

    and his car crash on the news trying to justify it

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcS7i4wn01o
  • woody662woody662 Posts: 255

    Well done to Oxford women.

    I'll go and wash my mouth out now.

    Cracking game for Leicester City! Is the great escape on?

    Bit disappointed by the GN though.
    Derby have thrown away automatic promotion, and they'll be lucky to get into the playoffs. Poor form after they were leading a month or so ago. And that's about as much as I follow football.

    I hope Leicester do stay up. Your county has so little to offer when compared to Derbyshire: no wonder you were so keen to keep the decayed body of a failed king. We'll let you have a premiership footie team as well. ;-)

    We'll keep the wonders of Kinder Scout, the glories of the White Peak valleys; and the spectacular Derwent whose waters nurtured the birthplace of the industrial revolution. We are home of the Rolls Royce that will fly you away on holiday (the important RR, not the toy-car maker - Crewe can keep that). And we have Dovedale, the spiritual home of fly-fishing. Even our churches are crooked.

    Yes, Derbyshire's so brilliant that I just had to move away ... ;-)
    Really disappointed with this, they've been far and away the best footballing side in the championship for the past two years. Went away there last season and they were so good it was almost a pleasure to see us slaughtered 3-0.

    Shows he importance of he defensive midfielder at the moment, we have lost our 3 players for the position to injury and fallen apart. Whole thing is gutting
  • Just made a donation. Not from my Grand National winnings as they amounted to the square root of bugger all
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
    The kippers will lose because they haven't really done enough groundwork. The CBI and others will pitch in and scare the electorate.

    The kippers would be much safer if they pitched the referendum on no further progress to full union which removes all the economic arguments but ultimately will end up at the same end point.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Terrific effort ?!

    Looked about 3 stone out the handicap to me !
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited April 2015

    Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    The In campaign has been pushing out a lot of propaganda lately:

    http://www.cityam.com/213169/brexit-61pc-sme-business-owners-agree-tony-blair-and-would-vote-stay-eu

    But is actually meaningless when you consider research such as:

    http://blog.vistage.co.uk/66-of-directors-dont-fully-understand-their-companys-strategy

    Where 66% of directors do not understand their company's strategy.

  • Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
    The kippers will lose because they haven't really done enough groundwork. The CBI and others will pitch in and scare the electorate.

    The kippers would be much safer if they pitched the referendum on no further progress to full union which removes all the economic arguments but ultimately will end up at the same end point.
    That's why I can't work out why Farage is demanding a referendum this year.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
    The kippers will lose because they haven't really done enough groundwork. The CBI and others will pitch in and scare the electorate.

    The kippers would be much safer if they pitched the referendum on no further progress to full union which removes all the economic arguments but ultimately will end up at the same end point.
    That's why I can't work out why Farage is demanding a referendum this year.
    You don't need to win a referendum to gain a large political boost.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Opinium first time ever has In ahead of Out.

    I swuspect this is the point where UKIP becoming a full mainstream party now works against their stated aim. There'll now be people who'll vote in just because UKIP say out.
    I think it is in part that.

    Outers like Daniel Hannan and Casino Royale of this parish, both have made the point that UKIP and Farage are damaging the out brand.
    The kippers will lose because they haven't really done enough groundwork. The CBI and others will pitch in and scare the electorate.

    The kippers would be much safer if they pitched the referendum on no further progress to full union which removes all the economic arguments but ultimately will end up at the same end point.
    That's why I can't work out why Farage is demanding a referendum this year.
    Probably because he knows he'll not get one.
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