Where was your insight when Brown was throwing his toys out of the pram in No 10
You are just such an utter hypocrite..
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
"Three UK teenage men are held by Turkish authorities who say they were on their way to Syria. I would rather we didn't have them back thanks."
Don't worry. Unless they can prove that they're gay and just fancied a good going over by the men in black they'll spend a long time at her Maj's pleasure
"Labour MP Sarah Champion billed the taxpayer £17 for a poppy wreath for Remembrance Day"
Does the Prime Minister buy his own wreathes every time he's required to plant one on various memorials? Do you think the Mail bothered to find out or do you think they just have a problem with Sarah Champion.
I got something of an insight into Mail practices when watching the TV appearance of Sarah Vine
It is now against the rules to claim for this...end of.
It wouldnt be hard to make the argument that this is a legitimate expense that an MP has in the carrying out of his duty. You wouldnt expect a nurse, or a binman to pay for stuff that is necessary for them to do their jobs.
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him.
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him.
Yes, and while not justifying what it is claimed he has done, dealing with 'stars' is by all accounts a nightmare. Especially around catering. Ive heard horror stories....
"Labour MP Sarah Champion billed the taxpayer £17 for a poppy wreath for Remembrance Day"
Does the Prime Minister buy his own wreathes every time he's required to plant one on various memorials? Do you think the Mail bothered to find out or do you think they just have a problem with Sarah Champion.
I got something of an insight into Mail practices when watching the TV appearance of Sarah Vine
It is now against the rules to claim for this...end of.
It wouldnt be hard to make the argument that this is a legitimate expense that an MP has in the carrying out of his duty. You wouldnt expect a nurse, or a binman to pay for stuff that is necessary for them to do their jobs.
That isn't the point. The rules state you can't...It isn't a maybe, not sure, grey area. You can't claim for this.
I think we can all agree there are things that MPs can claim for that seem unnecessary or overly generous e.g the amount of food expenses they can claim for. A bin man can't claim for this breakfast or lunch while out on the rounds.
But again, that is the rules, and I won't criticize an MP for claiming legitimate expenses like food, but I will for claiming stuff that is clearly not within them.
Claiming for wreaths has been brought up in the past, several MPs have done when it wasn't 100% clear if they could or couldn't. Given what has happened with expenses, MPs should be doing everything to make sure nothing is incorrectly claimed.
Where was your insight when Brown was throwing his toys out of the pram in No 10
You are just such an utter hypocrite..
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
Regardless of how the 'star' was being treated, read an alternative account of the 'fracas', and it seems the show itself wasn't being produced properly.
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him.
Hmmm....not sure pandering to every whims of all the divas in showbiz is a good example to set, just because they are popular and make money. I think it would just cause dis enhancement and jealously among other talent, that maybe aren't so full of themselves.
BBC have done this in the past, with the likes of Chris Moyles and Chris Evans on Radio 1...and it never ends well. They gave them massive pay packets, excused their behaviour on and off air, and actually it was the worst thing to do, as it just feeds their egos.
Evans is a far better person and presenter after being dropped from a great height, he says so himself. I bumped into him a couple of times when he was at the height of his popularity, and the guy was a total tool, causing scenes just like the ones described with Clarkson.
"Labour MP Sarah Champion billed the taxpayer £17 for a poppy wreath for Remembrance Day"
Does the Prime Minister buy his own wreathes every time he's required to plant one on various memorials? Do you think the Mail bothered to find out or do you think they just have a problem with Sarah Champion.
I got something of an insight into Mail practices when watching the TV appearance of Sarah Vine
It is now against the rules to claim for this...end of.
It wouldnt be hard to make the argument that this is a legitimate expense that an MP has in the carrying out of his duty. You wouldnt expect a nurse, or a binman to pay for stuff that is necessary for them to do their jobs.
That isn't the point. The rules state you can't...It isn't a maybe, not sure, grey area. You can't claim for this.
I think we can all agree there are things that MPs can claim for that seem unnecessary or overly generous e.g the amount of food expenses they can claim for. A bin man can't claim for this breakfast or lunch while out on the rounds.
But again, that is the rules, and I won't criticize an MP for claiming legitimate expenses like food, but I will for claiming stuff that is clearly not within them.
Claiming for wreaths has been brought up in the past, several MPs have done when it wasn't 100% clear if they could or couldn't. Given what has happened with expenses, MPs should be doing everything to make sure nothing is incorrectly claimed.
Perhaps Sarah Champion forgot that Ed Balls had tried the same stunt in 2009.
"Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him."
You miss the point. If you work with prima-donna's who have problems they'll always find something to upset them or they'll pick on someone weak because they're tired or drunk or anything else.
Apparently the story was that Clarkson kept his hellicopter waiting several hours while he drank in the pub. By the time he got back the chef couldn't wait any longer and had left. He then verbally battered the young producer for 45 minutes before punching him.
I suspect he's a hero figure for the likes of you and SquareRoot. Having met a few like him-very few.... most celebs i've worked with have been the exact opposite-I wouldn't give him the time of day. I know of several wrap parties where none of the crew turned up because they'd been working with a piece of work like Clarkson. And that hurts them
My local Labour association do bother to buy a wreathe. When those on the left despise patriotism and the armed services it is no wonder Labour MPs are putting them on expenses.
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him.
Hmmm....not sure pandering to every whims of all the divas in showbiz is a good example to set, just because they are popular and make money. I think it would just cause dis enhancement and jealously among other talent, that maybe aren't so full of themselves.
There is making money, and then there is making the equivalent of a 7% rise in the license fee
Apparently the story was that Clarkson kept his hellicopter waiting several hours while he drank in the pub. By the time he got back the chef couldn't wait any longer and had left. He then verbally battered the young producer for 45 minutes before punching him.
I suspect he's a hero figure for the likes of you and SquareRoot. Having met a few like him-very few.... most celebs i've worked with have been the exact opposite-I wouldn't give him the time of day. I know of several wrap parties where none of the crew turned up because they'd been working with a piece of work like Clarkson. And that hurts them
Who to believe?
'Clarkson, May and Richard Hammond had been filming in Surrey all day before the incident. They left at just after 6pm for a two-and-half-hour helicopter flight to the luxury Simonstone Hall hotel in the Yorkshire Dales.
On board, May drank a bottle of wine, but Clarkson drank nothing as he had to work on a script later that evening.
Filming had been fraught because of the shortage of producers and Clarkson was tired, annoyed and hungry, having had nothing to eat all day, the sources say. And it was against this background, that they arrived at the hotel to be told there was no hot supper. What happened next will have to be established by the BBC’s inquiry'
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
I detect a Clinton-esque equivocation over the word "use". Anyone want to bet that the live-in nanny also cooks for the family, so Ed and his wife don't strictly "use" the big kitchen, and use the small one to make a quick cuppa when the nanny is busy with the kids.
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
I detect a Clinton-esque equivocation over the word "use". Anyone want to bet that the live-in nanny also cooks for the family, so Ed and his wife don't strictly "use" the big kitchen, and use the small one to make a quick cuppa when the nanny is busy with the kids.
But, I am not sure if the live in nanny also does the cars, or if that is a different member of staff?
I would guess so, both Ed and Justine are very busy. Both Cleggs and Cameron's do as well, for similar reasons, but I think are pretty open about this arrangement. Ed's spin may or may not unravel, but all politicians would be far better to follow the Boris approach when it comes to trying to appear like the common man, which is don't pretend.
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
I detect a Clinton-esque equivocation over the word "use". Anyone want to bet that the live-in nanny also cooks for the family, so Ed and his wife don't strictly "use" the big kitchen, and use the small one to make a quick cuppa when the nanny is busy with the kids.
I did not use a cooking utensil in that kitchen...
Utterly shocking. A minster of the Crown this time, a cabinet minister a few years ago. No wonder you black kids feel powerless against the police.
What i would have expected in a situation like this, is, if there was more than meets the eye. The chief constable calls the mp into the station, and with the case officer goes through the minutiae of detail. If at the end of that the MP still wants to go ahead and raise it, they agree some sort of way forward.
To try and intimidate a *government* minister is just extraordinary.
The test should be, as it is with HMRC, was the cost necessary in the carrying out of their duties. An employee, even one as well remunerated as a MP should not be putting their hand in their pockets in order to carry out their duties.
Would you say that the laying of a wreath for a member of parliament is a necessary part of their role as MP?
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
I detect a Clinton-esque equivocation over the word "use". Anyone want to bet that the live-in nanny also cooks for the family, so Ed and his wife don't strictly "use" the big kitchen, and use the small one to make a quick cuppa when the nanny is busy with the kids.
I would guess so, both Ed and Justine are very busy. Both Cleggs and Cameron's do as well, for similar reasons, but I think are pretty open about this arrangement. Ed's spin may or may not unravel, but all politicians would be far better to follow the Boris approach when it comes to trying to appear like the common man, which is don't pretend.
But, I am not sure if the live in nanny also does the cars, or if that is a different member of staff?
Giving him a little semantic wriggle room in his selection of the small kitchen he opted to use for the soft-focus photo op earlier in the week. Its the one he "uses" rather than the rather more impressive and well equipped one currently "used" by his staff.
The test should be, as it is with HMRC, was the cost necessary in the carrying out of their duties. An employee, even one as well remunerated as a MP should not be putting their hand in their pockets in order to carry out their duties.
Would you say that the laying of a wreath for a member of parliament is a necessary part of their role as MP?
The test should be is he laying it in a personal capacity or on behalf of his constituents. Cameron doesn't pay for his wreathe at the cenotaph because he is laying it on behalf of the nation. But if this is the case it should be bought from official funds, not personal funds and then expensed.
Amazing how there's so much more interest in some BBC employee than what is going on in Russia. The President of the world's largest nation state with thousands of nuclear weapons seems to have disappeared. Perhaps it's nothing. Maybe he has some minor pinko illness that would ruin his macho reputation if it were to be made public. All very odd though. Even our own election seems a little trifling by comparison.
Utterly shocking. A minster of the Crown this time, a cabinet minister a few years ago. No wonder you black kids feel powerless against the police.
What i would have expected in a situation like this, is, if there was more than meets the eye. The chief constable calls the mp into the station, and with the case officer goes through the minutiae of detail. If at the end of that the MP still wants to go ahead and raise it, they agree some sort of way forward.
To try and intimidate a *government* minister is just extraordinary.
Not the first. Wrong to send out an extract from Hansard according to plod.
Two Kitchens - The Movie: Miliband invites the cameras into his house AGAIN as it emerges the live-in nanny uses the big kitchen while Ed makes tea upstairs
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
I detect a Clinton-esque equivocation over the word "use". Anyone want to bet that the live-in nanny also cooks for the family, so Ed and his wife don't strictly "use" the big kitchen, and use the small one to make a quick cuppa when the nanny is busy with the kids.
I did not use a cooking utensil in that kitchen...
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Where was your insight when Brown was throwing his toys out of the pram in No 10
You are just such an utter hypocrite..
The problem with Clarkson is that the BBC staff were not doing their job properly in managing their big stars. to make sure nothing went amiss.. now they have to pick up the pieces after the event..
"Three UK teenage men are held by Turkish authorities who say they were on their way to Syria. I would rather we didn't have them back thanks."
Don't worry. Unless they can prove that they're gay and just fancied a good going over by the men in black they'll spend a long time at her Maj's pleasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1pg1zpNgB0
I think we can all agree there are things that MPs can claim for that seem unnecessary or overly generous e.g the amount of food expenses they can claim for. A bin man can't claim for this breakfast or lunch while out on the rounds.
But again, that is the rules, and I won't criticize an MP for claiming legitimate expenses like food, but I will for claiming stuff that is clearly not within them.
Claiming for wreaths has been brought up in the past, several MPs have done when it wasn't 100% clear if they could or couldn't. Given what has happened with expenses, MPs should be doing everything to make sure nothing is incorrectly claimed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995306/Minister-Rob-Wilson-claims-threatened-cop-police-child-abuse-errors.html
BBC have done this in the past, with the likes of Chris Moyles and Chris Evans on Radio 1...and it never ends well. They gave them massive pay packets, excused their behaviour on and off air, and actually it was the worst thing to do, as it just feeds their egos.
Evans is a far better person and presenter after being dropped from a great height, he says so himself. I bumped into him a couple of times when he was at the height of his popularity, and the guy was a total tool, causing scenes just like the ones described with Clarkson.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5380085/MPs-expenses-Ed-Ballss-claim-for-Remembrance-Sunday-wreaths.html
"Leaving aside his conduct. If I had someone working for my company earning us £300m per year I would have an entire brigade of chefs making damn sure he had a choice of hot meals after the end of shooting for the day if that was what was important to him."
You miss the point. If you work with prima-donna's who have problems they'll always find something to upset them or they'll pick on someone weak because they're tired or drunk or anything else.
Apparently the story was that Clarkson kept his hellicopter waiting several hours while he drank in the pub. By the time he got back the chef couldn't wait any longer and had left. He then verbally battered the young producer for 45 minutes before punching him.
I suspect he's a hero figure for the likes of you and SquareRoot. Having met a few like him-very few.... most celebs i've worked with have been the exact opposite-I wouldn't give him the time of day. I know of several wrap parties where none of the crew turned up because they'd been working with a piece of work like Clarkson. And that hurts them
My local Labour association do bother to buy a wreathe. When those on the left despise patriotism and the armed services it is no wonder Labour MPs are putting them on expenses.
'Clarkson, May and Richard Hammond had been filming in Surrey all day before the incident. They left at just after 6pm for a two-and-half-hour helicopter flight to the luxury Simonstone Hall hotel in the Yorkshire Dales.
On board, May drank a bottle of wine, but Clarkson drank nothing as he had to work on a script later that evening.
Filming had been fraught because of the shortage of producers and Clarkson was tired, annoyed and hungry, having had nothing to eat all day, the sources say. And it was against this background, that they arrived at the hotel to be told there was no hot supper. What happened next will have to be established by the BBC’s inquiry'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html
An ITV told the Sunday Telegraph said: 'Cameron and Clegg have already been filmed in their kitchens and elsewhere and we are due to begin filming in Ed Miliband's home in the next day or two. We were always going to shoot in the family kitchen so we shall have to see what happens.'
This will be fun :-)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044244/Is-Ed-Milibands-cleaner-washing-car-Labour-leader-squeegeed-middle.html
I would guess so, both Ed and Justine are very busy. Both Cleggs and Cameron's do as well, for similar reasons, but I think are pretty open about this arrangement. Ed's spin may or may not unravel, but all politicians would be far better to follow the Boris approach when it comes to trying to appear like the common man, which is don't pretend.
I did not use a cooking utensil in that kitchen...
What i would have expected in a situation like this, is, if there was more than meets the eye. The chief constable calls the mp into the station, and with the case officer goes through the minutiae of detail. If at the end of that the MP still wants to go ahead and raise it, they agree some sort of way forward.
To try and intimidate a *government* minister is just extraordinary.
Would you say that the laying of a wreath for a member of parliament is a necessary part of their role as MP?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995306/Minister-Rob-Wilson-claims-threatened-cop-police-child-abuse-errors.html
Loughton was an ex minister at that time.
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More on your kitchen obsession...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/13/ed-miliband-kitchen-vine_n_6862288.html
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More on your kitchen obsession...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/13/ed-miliband-kitchen-vine_n_6862288.html