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  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @currystar
    Bully for you, conversely, there are people waiting three days just to get to a foodbank.
  • Nigel Farage has revealed his radical plans for Ukip to support a minority Conservative government after the next election.

    The UK Independence Party leader says that he is willing to make a deal with the Tories on the condition that they hold an EU referendum before Christmas.

    The detailed plans for a hung parliament set out that Ukip and Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Party would work together to support the Conservatives on a vote by vote basis.

    Ukip - forecast to gain up to six seats in the election - would vote for the Conservative's first Budget, which would be the first major test of this new right of centre alliance.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11471179/Revealed-Nigel-Farages-offer-to-support-a-minority-Conservative-Government.html
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    Looks like the Sun has basically been given the summary sheet for the budget (minus the rabbit out the hat)...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/576869368841261056
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Nigel Farage has revealed his radical plans for Ukip to support a minority Conservative government after the next election.

    The UK Independence Party leader says that he is willing to make a deal with the Tories on the condition that they hold an EU referendum before Christmas.

    The detailed plans for a hung parliament set out that Ukip and Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Party would work together to support the Conservatives on a vote by vote basis.

    Ukip - forecast to gain up to six seats in the election - would vote for the Conservative's first Budget, which would be the first major test of this new right of centre alliance.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11471179/Revealed-Nigel-Farages-offer-to-support-a-minority-Conservative-Government.html

    How much attention will "Grimsby man" pay to this lot ?
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171

    currystar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    I was in Southampton today. The shopping centre was packed. All the food joints had queues. There was even a jewellery store called pandora where there was a 30 minute wait just to get in the shop to buy jewellery . All this nonsense that it is only rich people who are feeling the benefits of the recovery . I'm sure France wishes that it is as rotten to the core as we are .
    I think there is a definite divide. My experience of travelling around, the south is doing very well, some of the big cities like Birmingham are busy busy busy, but the smaller northern towns not so much.
    So how will labour help the smaller northern towns?
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    The Tories throwing 2 kitchen sinks at Ed Miliband and getting nowhere.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    GIN1138 said:

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Your assuming (wrongly IMO) that Farage want's to leave the EU...
    I think he does. But he's too emotional. He makes the mistake of assuming everyone else sees the world the same way he does.

    He can work up his 15-20% base into an enthusiastic frenzy. But no matter how hard they mark the ballot paper, the votes will be limited. To win an EU referendum vote, he will have to win over some on the centre-left to the cause.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015
    Tim_B said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
    Daily Mail could get itself into deep shit over that headline.
    The Mail - or the 'BBC Boss' once he or she is identified?

    The petition now stands at 894,378 signatures. It might make the million yet.
    For the Mail to go so big on that, I would think they have to be able to stand up their claims and also had the lawyers go over it, or it very could get expensive.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,354

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage: Brussels useful idiot...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Looks like the Sun has basically been given the summary sheet for the budget (minus the rabbit out the hat)...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/576869368841261056

    If I'm reading that right do I need to go and live back with my parents or something 7 years before they die o_O ?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626
    GIN1138 said:

    Evening all! This morning, I wrote:

    Enjoy it while you can -

    Tory lead 0.6% in ELBOW so far this week, with only Opinium, YG (Sunday) and ComRes (online) to come this weekend!

    Have we been informed who The Sunil is coming out for this time?

    In Britain, the Sunil comes out every day! :sunglasses:

    As it stands, with just the YG data tables to come through, we have both the Tories and Labour on 33.1% apiece in ELBOW!
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
    I'm not staying up for Ireland v Pakistan because I need some sleep before the Australian Grand Prix!
    My plan is to head off to bed around midnight then wake up around 5am.
    What did you think of qualifying? Merc still top dog, McLaren in deep do do, and Red Bull majorly pissed at Renault?
    I haven't watched the qualifying, just read a report on it.
    I couldn't sleep so saw it live. Red Bull are pulling no punches about their relationship with Renault. They are very unhappy and say so to camera.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015
    Did Cage director train Jihadi John? MoS uncovers new evidence that links apologists for ISIS butcher to his desert weapons camp

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995140/Did-Cage-director-train-Jihadi-John-MoS-uncovers-new-evidence-links-apologists-ISIS-butcher-desert-weapons-camp.html

    Mail lawyers have been earning their corn this weekend...
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited March 2015
    @currystar
    "So how will labour help the smaller northern towns?"

    I have not a clue, but if they actually do something about rebalancing the economy, instead of watching the bond markets, I would vote for that.
    If it is "Blairism" with some red dusting, I won't.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    currystar said:

    currystar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    I was in Southampton today. The shopping centre was packed. All the food joints had queues. There was even a jewellery store called pandora where there was a 30 minute wait just to get in the shop to buy jewellery . All this nonsense that it is only rich people who are feeling the benefits of the recovery . I'm sure France wishes that it is as rotten to the core as we are .
    I think there is a definite divide. My experience of travelling around, the south is doing very well, some of the big cities like Birmingham are busy busy busy, but the smaller northern towns not so much.
    So how will labour help the smaller northern towns?
    No bloody idea...unfortunately I don't think Osborne or two the Ed's do either.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    GIN1138 said:

    Evening all! This morning, I wrote:

    Enjoy it while you can -

    Tory lead 0.6% in ELBOW so far this week, with only Opinium, YG (Sunday) and ComRes (online) to come this weekend!

    Have we been informed who The Sunil is coming out for this time?

    In Britain, the Sunil comes out every day! :sunglasses:

    As it stands, with just the YG data tables to come through, we have both the Tories and Labour on 33.1% apiece in ELBOW!
    The sunil has got his hat on, hip-hip-hip-hooray
    The sunil has got his hat on and he's coming out today
    Now we'll all be happy, hip-hip-hip-hooray
    The sunil has got his hat on and he's coming out today
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Did Cage director train Jihadi John? MoS uncovers new evidence that links apologists for ISIS butcher to his desert weapons camp

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995140/Did-Cage-director-train-Jihadi-John-MoS-uncovers-new-evidence-links-apologists-ISIS-butcher-desert-weapons-camp.html

    Mail lawyers have been earning their corn this weekend...

    Daily Mail new strategy, get the BBC and Clarkson (And themselves) libel/defamation battle in to drown out a certain Scottish perjury trial.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    MikeK said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    And at the moment UKIP is the only party willing to apply some medical aid.
    UKIP ''or as I like to call it'' FUKP
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    He'll exempt the main home from inheritance tax calculations and raise the basic and middle rate tax allowances.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    He seems very confident that the Labour are heading for a very low score. I am interested to know why he thinks they will drop 3-5% from current polling in the next few weeks.
  • Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Kellner still calling it by five for the Tories.

    He must be factoring in the trend plus the level of historic under/over statement of the two main protagonists.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TheScreamingEagles
    That's a bit like "swingback" isn't it?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    YG tables...must have YG tables...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    Peter Kellner thinks Labour will drop to 31% overall but pick up to 31 odd% in Scotland ?!
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
  • Sunday Times

    TONY BLAIR was engulfed in a Labour funding row last night after he helped to broker a secret £1m donation deal with the party’s biggest business backer in a move to weaken the influence of the trade unions over Ed Miliband.

    The former prime minister used a dinner at his London home last week to drum up cash for Labour’s election war chest and freeze out Unite, the union that is the party’s biggest paymaster.

    At the dinner Assem Allam, chairman of Hull City football club, told Miliband that he would give Labour £300,000 on top of the £200,000 he has already handed over this year.

    He promised a further £500,000 if the Labour leader loses money by standing up to Unite’s general secretary, Len McCluskey.

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1531304.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_03_14
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232
    edited March 2015
    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Ed is Charismatic is PM??

    Oh.. Four letters? Cute?? :D
  • Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking about demanding a referendum this year for cofidence annd suply for at least 6 moths. It's old news and anyway under the current circumstances it will not happen. A referendum will need a vote in Westminster will it not? No way Labour, the SNP and the Libdems would allow it
    You're always very confident about your predictions. Like when you told me there was absolutely zero chance of Osborne making any move on inheritance tax in his budget.
    And I still stick by that. Inheritance tax is a pledge for the next parliament not a throwaway for the rump end of this because once its pushed through that's it. It has little further value.

    Similarly I do not believe there will be a referendum anytime soon partly because I believe that Eurosceptics are far in advance of pro-Europeans in developing their arguments and that in itself provides sufficient risk for pro-Europeans to ensure they will avoid a referendum at all costs. Eurosceptics only need one win in a referendum. Pro-Europeans have to win every one ( victory for pro-Europeans would not be an end to it not with ever closer union on the horizon)
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
  • Miliband's ‘miserable’ message means he can’t win, says third of his cabinet

    The Labour leader’s negative rhetoric and focus on the poorest voters spell disaster, key colleagues warn

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1531140.ece
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    edited March 2015

    He seems very confident that the Labour are heading for a very low score. I am interested to know why he thinks they will drop 3-5% from current polling in the next few weeks.
    I think Kellner's almost bang-on the money there. A little punchy for the Lib Dems mind.



    EDIT: 12% share for UKIP, not seats!! Getting tired.
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Bully for you, conversely, there are people waiting three days just to get to a foodbank.

    Please remember that Southampton which is clearly the richest place in the uk and the only place that does not need food banks has two MPs both of whom are labour . This gives you an idea of the demographics of the place , yet these labour voting lot cannot afford food yet can afford pandora jewellery. Get real the uk has done amazing under this government . They deserve enormous credit.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015



    At the dinner Assem Allam, chairman of Hull City football club, told Miliband that he would give Labour £300,000 on top of the £200,000 he has already handed over this year.

    He promised a further £500,000 if the Labour leader loses money by standing up to Unite’s general secretary, Len McCluskey.

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1531304.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_03_14

    Will Allam also insist that they change the name of the Labour Party, to the Labour Lions? And change their party colours from red to gold?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341


    He seems very confident that the Labour are heading for a very low score. I am interested to know why he thinks they will drop 3-5% from current polling in the next few weeks.

    The phone polls, Ipsos excepted, have Labour on 30-32 now.

  • SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626
    edited March 2015
    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    ELBOW for the 10 polls with data tables released so far this week currently has Labour and Tory leading by 0.00%!! (only the Sunday YG data can spoil that perfect symmetry!!)
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @currystar

    "Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition "
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/14/housing-benefit-coalition-people-claiming
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626
    chestnut said:


    He seems very confident that the Labour are heading for a very low score. I am interested to know why he thinks they will drop 3-5% from current polling in the next few weeks.

    The phone polls, Ipsos excepted, have Labour on 30-32 now.

    Kellner's YouGov is an online poll...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,232
    edited March 2015

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    ELBOW for the 10 polls with data tables released so far this week currently has Labour and Tory leading by 0.00%!! (only the Sunday YG data can spoil that perfect symmetry!!)
    I hope you applied a Gold Standard correction to downweigh the obviously erroneous polls which have a Labour lead. :)
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
    I'm sure the Mail has an axe to grind but the remarks coming before a supposedly objective disciplinary hearing are hardly politic are they?
    I suspect the BBC boss is Danny Cohen who the Mail has previously claimed ''has seized on the incident as the reason he needs to oust the controversial figure.''
    That a BBC boss (of all people and organisations) seeks to link the PM to Saville says a lot about them as well.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Con+UKIP+DUP on 310 seats; Lab+Green+LD+SNP on 328 seats. Not enough to pass the EU bill.

    So he'd have to do a deal with the LDs to pass it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Miliband's ‘miserable’ message means he can’t win, says third of his cabinet

    The Labour leader’s negative rhetoric and focus on the poorest voters spell disaster, key colleagues warn

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1531140.ece

    Noone reads the Sunday Times though when you can get tonnes of other crap bias news on the web for free.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Was it part of Scunthorpe?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    edited March 2015
    Con + Lib-Dems + The Irish helping out when needed?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    One of the reasons I think Kellner is right is that a weak, unpopular, incredible leader just might not get out the vote for Labour. Not to mention the multiple messages, and limited resources.

    Meanwhile, Cameron and Osborne are pumping iron into their base with sweeties all round, running watertight message discipline and ramming it all home with a very well funded campaign.

    I've covered myself on the 60-65% turnout band at Bet365 at 7/2.
  • GIN1138 said:

    Con + Lib-Dems + The Irish helping out when needed?
    Technically it is a Coalition maj of 4 and 10 if you include the Shinners.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709
    SMukesh said:

    The Tories throwing 2 kitchen sinks at Ed Miliband and getting nowhere.

    The voters clearly appreciate that a man with two kitchens is a man to be reckoned with.

    Cameron needs to respond decisively, for example by counting his conservatories.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,105


    Con+UKIP+DUP on 310 seats; Lab+Green+LD+SNP on 328 seats. Not enough to pass the EU bill.

    So he'd have to do a deal with the LDs to pass it.

    Kellner's "prediction" (and it is only that) is or may be the justification for the Clegg line. Roughly 300 Conservatives plus roughly 30 LDs plus 8 DUP gives a fairly comfortable majority in truth.

    And yet...I'm far from convinced a weakened Clegg could sell Coalition 2.0 to a damaged party.



  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Was it part of Scunthorpe?
    You're much closer than RobD's spoof guess of "cute"!
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    O

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
    Could you post that article as his Youguv January article doesn`t allude to it?

    He predicted 2.5% swingback 4 months to the election and with 53 days to go,swingback so far has been 0.5%
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking about demanding a referendum this year for cofidence annd suply for at least 6 moths. It's old news and anyway under the current circumstances it will not happen. A referendum will need a vote in Westminster will it not? No way Labour, the SNP and the Libdems would allow it
    You're always very confident about your predictions. Like when you told me there was absolutely zero chance of Osborne making any move on inheritance tax in his budget.
    And I still stick by that. Inheritance tax is a pledge for the next parliament not a throwaway for the rump end of this because once its pushed through that's it. It has little further value.

    Similarly I do not believe there will be a referendum anytime soon partly because I believe that Eurosceptics are far in advance of pro-Europeans in developing their arguments and that in itself provides sufficient risk for pro-Europeans to ensure they will avoid a referendum at all costs. Eurosceptics only need one win in a referendum. Pro-Europeans have to win every one ( victory for pro-Europeans would not be an end to it not with ever closer union on the horizon)
    Because you will want to show who's the bigger man, I look forward to you graciously conceding you were wrong by close of business on Wednesday.
  • scotslassscotslass Posts: 912
    In note the "magic sign" comes up yet again for the SNP - not Ladbrokes the bookies but 45 per cent support in the Comres sub sample. It seems like your tactical voting pals are up a gum tree Mike.
  • SMukesh said:

    O

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
    Could you post that article as his Youguv January article doesn`t allude to it?

    He predicted 2.5% swingback 4 months to the election and with 53 days to go,swingback so far has been 0.5%
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1508500.ece
  • Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking about demanding a referendum this year for cofidence annd suply for at least 6 moths. It's old news and anyway under the current circumstances it will not happen. A referendum will need a vote in Westminster will it not? No way Labour, the SNP and the Libdems would allow it
    You're always very confident about your predictions. Like when you told me there was absolutely zero chance of Osborne making any move on inheritance tax in his budget.
    And I still stick by that. Inheritance tax is a pledge for the next parliament not a throwaway for the rump end of this because once its pushed through that's it. It has little further value.

    Similarly I do not believe there will be a referendum anytime soon partly because I believe that Eurosceptics are far in advance of pro-Europeans in developing their arguments and that in itself provides sufficient risk for pro-Europeans to ensure they will avoid a referendum at all costs. Eurosceptics only need one win in a referendum. Pro-Europeans have to win every one ( victory for pro-Europeans would not be an end to it not with ever closer union on the horizon)
    Because you will want to show who's the bigger man, I look forward to you graciously conceding you were wrong by close of business on Wednesday.
    It's what I think not some method by which I prove my character but if Osborne does try to push it through I'll be looking to see if I'm proved right and the Libdems block it or not and whether Labour and the Libdems use it in terms of calling it a 'Millionaire's tax cut' and whether the Tories vote share suffers or not.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    edited March 2015


    Curiously silent!!
    You could try... Lab+LD+SNP+Green = 328 seats. EICBIHAJBIJPM?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    Has either the Labour or Conservative campaign actually started yet ?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,772
    SMukesh said:

    O

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
    Could you post that article as his Youguv January article doesn`t allude to it?

    He predicted 2.5% swingback 4 months to the election and with 53 days to go,swingback so far has been 0.5%
    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/01/19/how-cameron-could-win-and-lose/

    January SNP numbers a bit low
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,354
    The Kellner prediction of 30 LibDems on a vote recovering to, er, 10% is interesting. All polls have them on 7% tonight. So that requires some mighty special pleading - for the LibDem vote to rise by nearly 50% from where they currently sit. Every two current LibDem voters have to find another. Bold...
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    SMukesh said:

    O

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
    Could you post that article as his Youguv January article doesn`t allude to it?

    He predicted 2.5% swingback 4 months to the election and with 53 days to go,swingback so far has been 0.5%
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1508500.ece
    I don`t subscribe to the Times but could you confirm this article states that Tories will have regular but inconsistent leads till the budget?

    As far as I can see,this is a rehash of the article on Youguv website and that certainly makes no references to the budget.
  • SMukesh said:

    The Tories throwing 2 kitchen sinks at Ed Miliband and getting nowhere.

    Hasn't Ed used them in his two kitchens?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    SMukesh said:

    O

    SMukesh said:

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Quick question:Did Kellner correctly predict that Lab and Con would be tied 53 days before the general election?
    His piece in January predicted that the Tories would have regular but inconsistent leads by the budget.
    Could you post that article as his Youguv January article doesn`t allude to it?

    He predicted 2.5% swingback 4 months to the election and with 53 days to go,swingback so far has been 0.5%
    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/01/19/how-cameron-could-win-and-lose/

    January SNP numbers a bit low
    Yes he's bumped that one up by 11on the sly.
  • If the sunday papers budget headlines are anywhere near the truth it could be a game changer
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    currystar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Bully for you, conversely, there are people waiting three days just to get to a foodbank.

    Please remember that Southampton which is clearly the richest place in the uk and the only place that does not need food banks has two MPs both of whom are labour . This gives you an idea of the demographics of the place , yet these labour voting lot cannot afford food yet can afford pandora jewellery. Get real the uk has done amazing under this government . They deserve enormous credit.
    I suspect that many of those shopping in Southampton do not actually live there. It is the best place for shopping in Hants.

    Not that that involves much competition!
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    GeoffM said:

    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Was it part of Scunthorpe?
    You're much closer than RobD's spoof guess of "cute"!
    Yes, I rather thought I might be :-)

    If Typhoo put the T in Britain,then who put the - you know what - in Scunthorpe?
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Pulpstar
    Well we can put a tick against that, perhaps it will be better after the elections?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking
    You're always very confident about your predictions. Like when you told me there was absolutely zero chance of Osborne making any move on inheritance tax in his budget.
    And I still stick by that. Inheritance tax is a pledge for the next parliament not a throwaway for the rump end of this because once its pushed through that's it. It has little further value.

    Because you will want to show who's the bigger man, I look forward to you graciously conceding you were wrong by close of business on Wednesday.
    It's what I think not some method by which I prove my character but if Osborne does try to push it through I'll be looking to see if I'm proved right and the Libdems block it or not and whether Labour and the Libdems use it in terms of calling it a 'Millionaire's tax cut' and whether the Tories vote share suffers or not.
    You said there was "absolutely zero" chance of it happening. You mocked me repeatedly on here for suggesting otherwise. Now you are trying to broaden the scope of what you said, including all the irrelevancies of your cumbersome paragraph-long sentence, and worm out of what you were previously so certain about.

    If you mock a well-thought through prediction on here with 100% certainty yourself, and are subsequently shown to be wrong, expect to be called out on it.

    Humble pie: you have four days to learn how to eat some.
  • Danny Alexander asks Tories to save his skin

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAF2NM6UcAAa5ZX.jpg
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Danny Alexander asks Tories to save his skin

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAF2NM6UcAAa5ZX.jpg

    Should help firm up the SNP vote there a touch I'd have thought.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,725
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Danny Alexander asks Tories to save his skin

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAF2NM6UcAAa5ZX.jpg

    Should help firm up the SNP vote there a touch I'd have thought.
    If I lived in Scotland, and I thank Allah I don't, I'd vote for Danny, no qualms.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    If the sunday papers budget headlines are anywhere near the truth it could be a game changer

    What for ensuring even bigger majorities in Surrey :) ?

    I'm a fan of the proposals but I doubt they'll shift many votes.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,024

    Danny Alexander asks Tories to save his skin

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAF2NM6UcAAa5ZX.jpg

    I'm surprised anyone would need to 'announce' such a thing as a headline, given how clearly that is what he would need to have any chance at all for a very long time now, but I guess that ties in to the 'normal people don't think about politics' reality that we live in.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TheScreamingEagles
    Orange became the new blue. His coat is on a shooglie nail as they are apt to say in the north
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
  • Pulpstar said:

    If the sunday papers budget headlines are anywhere near the truth it could be a game changer

    What for ensuring even bigger majorities in Surrey :) ?

    I'm a fan of the proposals but I doubt they'll shift many votes.
    George Osborne's last foray into Inheritance Tax spooked Gordon Brown from calling an election
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,725
    edited March 2015

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
    A friend of mine has a shotgun and I have a very good aim (despite what my exes say)
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    Peter Kellner- YouGov has conducted 15 polls in the past three weeks. The Tories have led in seven, Labour in three.

    The previous three weeks produced 11 Labour leads and just two for the Tories. Individual polling samples still vary and the overall shift is small. But it is real.

    Given the historic pattern for Tory governments to do better than Labour oppositions in the final weeks before polling day, it is bad news for Miliband.

    Con+UKIP+DUP on 310 seats; Lab+Green+LD+SNP on 328 seats. Not enough to pass the EU bill.

    So he'd have to do a deal with the LDs to pass it.
    I don't think the time is right for an EU referendum. Massive changes are required in the EU in order for it to survive. We face many years of can kicking before they wake up to reality. Only then when the EU is on it's knees will an EU referendum be a good idea for the Eurosceptics.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
    Then @TissuePrice will be heading up to Edinburgh zoo with a shotgun (He'll have more on this than a tenner)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626
    GeoffM said:

    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Was it part of Scunthorpe?
    You're much closer than RobD's spoof guess of "cute"!
    Ed is COOL is PM? :)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,449

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
    A friend of mine has a shotgun and I have a very good aim (despite what my exes say)
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
    Then @TissuePrice will be heading up to Edinburgh zoo with a shotgun (He'll have more on this than a tenner)
    Lol!! On that bombshell (hat tip to Clarkson) I'll bid you gentlemen goodnight.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    If all three border regions vote Tory can England claim them for a bit of extra room ?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,772

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Election forecast predicts the country as an ungovernable mess right now.

    And a solid blue Tory hat-trick in the Scottish borders.
    Hah It'd be nice to see that panda bet hose up (£10 @ 25-1) but I think it'll be two seats for the blues at the most.
    What if Sturgeon procures another panda in the next 6 weeks? Dicey.
    A friend of mine has a shotgun and I have a very good aim (despite what my exes say)
    You have another friend?
  • Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015

    Farage has been talking
    You said there was "absolutely zero" chance of it happening. You mocked me repeatedly on here for suggesting otherwise. Now you are trying to broaden the scope of what you said, including all the irrelevancies of your cumbersome paragraph-long sentence, and worm out of what you were previously so certain about.

    If you mock a well-thought through prediction on here with 100% certainty yourself, and are subsequently shown to be wrong, expect to be called out on it.

    Humble pie: you have four days to learn how to eat some.
    Your memory seems to be failing you again. Go back and read what I said. i said the Tories would be nuts to try and push it through now. i said the Libdems would not let it go through. I quoted the Libdems website on tax.

    The Conservatives can't be trusted to deliver fair taxes by themselves. We blocked their plans to give millionaires a £270,000 inheritance tax cut and they refuse to create a mansion tax because they are worried it would affect their big donors.

    http://www.libdems.org.uk/tax

    I said to try and push it through now would invite comments about only helping the wealthy (i.e. Millionaire tax cuts) and potentially create significant negative coverage

    I said it was something for the coming manifesto. Now if you don't believe me go back and read it again. As for mocking you I do not believe I did (there are those who I would mock on this site but you are not one of them)

    If I am proven wrong I am wrong, but if I am, then the Libdems will be up for further ridicule along the lines of the tuition fees debacle.

    What is more likely given there is going to be a section on manifesto pledges in the budget is that Osborne puts it in that section which is what I recommended in the first place. So instead of babbling on about humble pie get your facts right in the first place!

    Now prove me wrong by quoting what it was I said originally that doesn't align with that or give it up!
  • Pulpstar said:

    If all three border regions vote Tory can England claim them for a bit of extra room ?

    Yup, Dave can follow Putin's lead and come to the aid of the people in the Borders.

    Southern Scotland = Ukraine
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    The Kellner prediction of 30 LibDems on a vote recovering to, er, 10% is interesting. All polls have them on 7% tonight. So that requires some mighty special pleading - for the LibDem vote to rise by nearly 50% from where they currently sit. Every two current LibDem voters have to find another. Bold...

    Do stop sneering, Mark. It does you no credit.

    The 2010 Lib Dem vote has gone soft. It has not gone away.

    Liberal voters need to be reminded why the Lib Dems are their best option. And this is now starting to happen, now that Lib Dem PPCs are in place, and council candidates out campaigning.

    In the next few weeks, the electors will be reminded, I think, that the Conservative Party - if returned unfettered - would be an unmitigated disaster for most people.

    Watch this space.....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,354
    PClipp said:

    The Kellner prediction of 30 LibDems on a vote recovering to, er, 10% is interesting. All polls have them on 7% tonight. So that requires some mighty special pleading - for the LibDem vote to rise by nearly 50% from where they currently sit. Every two current LibDem voters have to find another. Bold...

    Do stop sneering, Mark. It does you no credit.

    The 2010 Lib Dem vote has gone soft. It has not gone away.

    Liberal voters need to be reminded why the Lib Dems are their best option. And this is now starting to happen, now that Lib Dem PPCs are in place, and council candidates out campaigning.

    In the next few weeks, the electors will be reminded, I think, that the Conservative Party - if returned unfettered - would be an unmitigated disaster for most people.

    Watch this space.....
    I don't need to watch this space, I've seen your election literature. Which is sneering. And does you no credit....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,354
    Pulpstar said:

    If all three border regions vote Tory can England claim them for a bit of extra room ?

    Just make it like the border between North and South Korea.

    With a trillion land mines....
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    No thanks, I am not sure that things will be all that rosy no matter who gets in.
    Our productivity levels per capita are a joke.

    The UK had a productive banking sector that was wiped out - permanently. A chunk of productive capacity lost. This is what is meant when economists talk about the need to rebalance the economy.
    The Bank of England also point to companies not shedding labour as you might expect in a recession. This points to spare capacity it says both within companies and in the labour market. From what the Bank of England say it may be that the recession was not tough enough! They imply that more low productivity firms have survived the recession than might be expected.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,725
    edited March 2015
    Front page of the Sunday Mirror is bad for Norman Lamb (not in a political sense, I mean for his family, and being dragged into this)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAGBaqhWMAAqUS3.jpg
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    GIN1138 said:

    Con + Lib-Dems + The Irish helping out when needed?
    thats a brave prediction, and one i can see as fairly realistic....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
    I'm sure the Mail has an axe to grind but the remarks coming before a supposedly objective disciplinary hearing are hardly politic are they?
    I suspect the BBC boss is Danny Cohen who the Mail has previously claimed ''has seized on the incident as the reason he needs to oust the controversial figure.''
    That a BBC boss (of all people and organisations) seeks to link the PM to Saville says a lot about them as well.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html

    It slightly odd, maybe I am not reading it correctly they carefully don't say those comments were made by Danny Cohen in the text, but in the image they show Cohen.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,354
    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
    Ha! You're a good sport :-)
    How can someone not know what EICIPM is?? ;)
    Well I was close but I had guessed a different 4 letter word for the "C"..
    Was it part of Scunthorpe?
    You're much closer than RobD's spoof guess of "cute"!
    Yes, I rather thought I might be :-)

    If Typhoo put the T in Britain,then who put the - you know what - in Scunthorpe?
    Who put THOR in SCUNTHORPE?

    Oh....
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