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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Opinium and ComRes have LAB with 2% leads and both have Ed closing the gap on Dave in their leader ratings

LAB retains 2pt lead with ComRes online for Indy on Sunday/S Mirror
Con 33% (+1)
Lab 35% (+1)
LD 7% (NC)
UKIP 16% (NC)
Greens4% (NC)

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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023
    Tories' slim chances getting slimmer all the time (pending how Scotland pans out)
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Second!
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Well quite
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Tipping point.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    FPT.

    Smarmeron said:
    @MikeK

    Because some people find satire funny. The Sunday Sport is our press writ large and with a red nose.
    :)

    I find it neither satirical nor funny. Sunday Sport could soon find itself out of ink.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    Core vote strategy, that always points to confidence....

    Might win back a few Kippers but will reinforce the view that Tories are for the well off and get haired minority, not the country
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    Oh whoopee, providing our house triples in value the kids mike save a few bob when we snuff it. If Gideon does that then he really is Gidiot. Cant see him getting any votes out of such a move anywhere other than inner london other than from people who will vote for him already.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    The Budget might give the blues a lift, but it can be a double edged sword if people decide it is cynical.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    kle4 said:

    Tories' slim chances getting slimmer all the time (pending how Scotland pans out)

    The SNP won't help the Tories out, been more noises from Labour about "grand coalitions" than anything from the SNP. Alot of their new intake wouldn't be seen dead in a pact with the Conservatives, the Scottish public wouldn't forgive them and they have Holyrood to look at. Scotland is almost irrelevant to who becomes PM, the battle is in England.

    I guess the only thing Scotland does pretty much rule out by proxy or make unlikely is a Lib-Lab coalition.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    O/T - this really is margin of error and rounding stuff. 1% changes to the main parties and no change for everyone else?

    Both parties are level.
  • YouGov: CON 34%, LAB 34%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    CON - 34% (+1)
    LAB - 34% (+2)
    UKIP - 14% (-2)
    LDEM - 7% (-)
    GRN - 5% (-1)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    Freggles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    Core vote strategy, that always points to confidence....

    Might win back a few Kippers but will reinforce the view that Tories are for the well off and get haired minority, not the country
    That'll be the core vote strategy that led to such a turnaround in the opinion polls in 2007 that it forced Gordon Brown to call off his planned election.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    It is a more constant stream of revenue too.
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    The slight fly in the ointment is that a hell of a lot of people who wont have houses expensive enough to pay IHT will get hit by the new council tax bands.
  • coolagornacoolagorna Posts: 127
    Dont know how many of those polled saw Mili jnrs
    Free Speech performance but it impressed many of all
    parties who did see it

    Another confident speech today too with lots of "My
    Government" references and "When I am Prime Minister"
    bits in it

    So long as he doesnt come here to Sheffield and shout
    "Well alllllright" then I reckon he could be cooking in the
    no 10 Kitchen.in two months time
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited March 2015
    This may cause a slight stir. My tongue is in cheek!

    pic.twitter.com/1jUtz2fCGB

    — Wellingborough (@UKIP_Candidate) March 14, 2015

    I was evacuated to Wellingborough from London at the age of 6. With my mother of course.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    YouGov: CON 34%, LAB 34%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%.

    Tick tock.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    YouGov: CON 34%, LAB 34%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%.


    Swing...er...same.

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496

    YouGov: CON 34%, LAB 34%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%.

    TIE!

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    The slight fly in the ointment is that a hell of a lot of people who wont have houses expensive enough to pay IHT will get hit by the new council tax bands.
    How do you figure? Council tax bands still work off 1991 valuations.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    Nearly 8 million homes in Britain are now owned outright.

    Lots of future beneficiaries.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    edited March 2015
    With life expectancy on the up and up and the very rich being able to just gift alot to their kids during their lifetime just how much DOES IHT raise every year anyway.

    Just makework for lawyers and tax accountants tbh.

    Extra council tax bands sounds completely sensible to pay for it being put up to a million or some such.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023

    O/T - this really is margin of error and rounding stuff. 1% changes to the main parties and no change for everyone else?

    Both parties are level.

    Indeed, and likely to stay there is seems. That doesn't guarantee the mathematics will work out perfectly for Labout, but it does make it very very hard to enable a Tory most seats scenario, let alone an in government scenario.

    Nick Clegg surging upwards I see. ;) Though in all honesty the 'neither' percentage for him is higher than I would have expected.
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Vote labour ruin the country again !
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Over to you TSE for Sunday. MOTD is my big focus tonight.
  • Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,772
    Tonights YG completes the hat trick of EICIPM polls tonight.
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    The slight fly in the ointment is that a hell of a lot of people who wont have houses expensive enough to pay IHT will get hit by the new council tax bands.
    How do you figure? Council tax bands still work off 1991 valuations.
    The highest of which is about £160000 in 1990 prices so about £400k now. Kids of couples wont pay IHT until about £900k as the individual allowance is transferred when spouse dies. Gordon shot Gideons fox on IHT.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @currystar
    We will mark you as a "maybe" then?
  • Over to you TSE for Sunday. MOTD is my big focus tonight.

    Yay, that means I can do my AV thread for the morning.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023
    edited March 2015
    MikeK said:

    This may cause a slight stir. My tongue is in cheek!

    Eh, UKIP have gone for the bold strategy of not going in soft or tactical for the most part, which I salute them for, so some overhyping seems fair game - dream big, go big. Even if the seat numbers disappoint from the realistic predictions, the more votes nationally they get the more of an impact they can claim to have, and the more they can scare the big two.

    And even if neither seats nor national share meet the expectations, overhyping is entertaining, so the more the better.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    The polls are todays equivalent of looking into a crystal ball. I think crystal balls are better value.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited March 2015
    MAN City haaaaaaaaaaaa
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    MikeK said:

    The polls are todays equivalent of looking into a crystal ball. I think crystal balls are better value.

    Aye, a cloudy crystal ball.
  • YouGov

    83% would support raising personal allowance in the budget.

    second most favourite budget proposal: 73% favour limiting child benefit to 3 children

    71% would support raising the NI threshold

    drinkers beware. only measure opposed by more than supported it was cutting taxes on alcohol: 33% for it, 50% against

    2-1 backing for government commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defence. 52% think they should, 27% that they should not


    49% say Jeremy Clarkson should not be sacked versus 36% who say he should be dumped
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496

    Tories=MAN City

    Lib-Dems = Accrington Stanley

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    The slight fly in the ointment is that a hell of a lot of people who wont have houses expensive enough to pay IHT will get hit by the new council tax bands.
    How do you figure? Council tax bands still work off 1991 valuations.
    The highest of which is about £160000 in 1990 prices so about £400k now. Kids of couples wont pay IHT until about £900k as the individual allowance is transferred when spouse dies. Gordon shot Gideons fox on IHT.
    He really didn't. The current limit is £325k. It applies to any estate (assuming the spouse transfer) at £650k or above. Otherwise it's still stuck where it was in 2009.

    If you aren't married or in a civil partnership, live alone or share with a sibling, you can still expect to be stung at anything above £325k.
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409

    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

    What he means is that they are level pegging now so its anyones guess as to what will happen in the polling booth.
  • Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I was having lunch at my favorite restaurant today when someone across the bar said suddenly that he thought that he knew me, and that I looked very familiar to him.

    It turns out that he thought I was his former pastor.

    I can only deduce that this is confirmation that I am living a pure, innocent and blameless life, and have earned significant bounty in the hereafter.

    As a reward I treated myself to a piece of Peanut Butter Pie to go.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    WTF does EICIPM mean?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    kle4 said:

    O/T - this really is margin of error and rounding stuff. 1% changes to the main parties and no change for everyone else?

    Both parties are level.

    Indeed, and likely to stay there is seems. That doesn't guarantee the mathematics will work out perfectly for Labout, but it does make it very very hard to enable a Tory most seats scenario, let alone an in government scenario.

    Nick Clegg surging upwards I see. ;) Though in all honesty the 'neither' percentage for him is higher than I would have expected.
    I am a backer of Tory most seats. I can't see the Tories dropping below 270 seats, or Labour above 285 seats.

    The risky bit for me is that bit in-between, but there's only 8 seats in it.
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looks like George is going to cut IHT.

    As I have been saying (and trailing) on here for weeks.
    Must be some big Lib Dem sweeties in the budget too.
    My view is that he'll match it to higher taxes on wealthy homes through adding extra council tax bands at the top end. That's the deal for the Lib Dems.

    The gambit will be: pay a little more for the local services you benefit from whilst you're alive. But in return we will let you pass on your assets to your children and family tax-free when you die.
    The slight fly in the ointment is that a hell of a lot of people who wont have houses expensive enough to pay IHT will get hit by the new council tax bands.
    How do you figure? Council tax bands still work off 1991 valuations.
    The highest of which is about £160000 in 1990 prices so about £400k now. Kids of couples wont pay IHT until about £900k as the individual allowance is transferred when spouse dies. Gordon shot Gideons fox on IHT.
    He really didn't. The current limit is £325k. It applies to any estate (assuming the spouse transfer) at £650k or above. Otherwise it's still stuck where it was in 2009.

    If you aren't married or in a civil partnership, live alone or share with a sibling, you can still expect to be stung at anything above £325k.
    So most people with kids to pass on property too covered up to £650k.

    Not many people outside inner London have prsoperties worth anything like £650k
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I am not convinced that a cut in IHT is much of a vote winner, particularly as often the property has to be in equity release in order to fund social care. IHT is alongside council tax our only real wealth taxes.

    Certainly some tax cutting would set the agenda for a "tax bombshell" style campaign, but this may be a deliberate red herring.

    I do forsee extra money being found for various NHS projects. There are big rumours of building works going round, and also a nod and wink about Trust overspends.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    It's a bit like a game of poker, the blue team think they hold all the top cards, but they still have the cold sweats.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372
    edited March 2015

    Dont know how many of those polled saw Mili jnrs
    Free Speech performance but it impressed many of all
    parties who did see it.

    What did he say about Free Speech? Is he actually in favour of it?

    Edited to say: I have just Googled it and Free Speech seems to just be some sort of BBC programme format and nothing to do with the liberal concept of the same name.

  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    We will mark you as a "maybe" then?

    I will quite happily bet you a grand that if labour win a majority all the following things will happen.
    Unemployment higher
    Growth lower
    Inflation higher

    You want to take the bet?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    edited March 2015

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Ring ring....ring ring....SUE THE M##THER F###KERs.....I believe is probably how the conversion is going.

    The only problem is, just like Savile, we, the general public, are basically the ones that will suffer. The managers just get shifted around and the pay outs obviously come out of the telly tax, so less money for content.

    Also, interesting insinuation from this impartial BBC bod. IMO, I have to say what Cameron said, after being asked directly to comment, was basically here nor there. It isn't like he strode out of #10 and demanded that the BBC reinstate him.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Presumably not the wind suits, blonde hair, Jim'll Fix It, and "as it happens".

    Is this actionable?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456

    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

    the real election battle begins next week, at the moment people are just thinking about their easter hols, the budget will focus minds on the real choice facing the country in May, and all hell will be unleashed on Ed Miliband
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023
    Appropos of nothing, this description of the new force in Spanish politics on the BBC struck me:

    Podemos is the brainchild of a group of leftist political science university lecturers

    Sounds like someone's political dream.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31852713
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @currystar
    No thanks, I am not sure that things will be all that rosy no matter who gets in.
    Our productivity levels per capita are a joke.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    I hope Clarkson takes the BBC for all he can get, I think that some of the BBC wallas need their mental health check up rather urgently.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,723
    edited March 2015
    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Boo! Stay the course Nigel, go it alone properly.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,372
    MikeK said:

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    I hope Clarkson takes the BBC for all he can get, I think that some of the BBC wallas need their mental health check up rather urgently.
    Sounds like fair comment to me. We really do need to change the libel laws.

  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    No thanks, I am not sure that things will be all that rosy no matter who gets in.
    Our productivity levels per capita are a joke.

    As I have said many times in the past year these are halcyon days. Labour I'm afraid will destroy it. Why people would consider voting for the two eds staggers me.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    But when that happens the rest of us post: EMWNBPM (Edward Milliband Will Never Be Prime Minister)

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,872
    By my reckoning, the Yougov result leaves Con and Lab dead level for the week.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,023
    kjohnw said:



    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

    the real election battle begins next week, at the moment people are just thinking about their easter hols, the budget will focus minds on the real choice facing the country in May, and all hell will be unleashed on Ed Miliband
    Sure it will.

    I just cannot see it, and I know I am setting myself up for a fool if it does happen, but even accepting a few cases where there have been late shifts this doesn't feel like one of those situations to me, and even though most people have not been obsessing about politics for 5 years, things filter down to some degree. That Ed M is apparently crap has surely done so, will it really be the game changer it needs to be? A few points maybe, but the Tories need more than that unless they are really lucky. And that not even counting the possibility the cautious, bland Ed M does not frighten people who are expecting some sort of crapness avatar given what they have heard.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.
  • GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    kjohnw said:



    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

    the real election battle begins next week, at the moment people are just thinking about their easter hols, the budget will focus minds on the real choice facing the country in May, and all hell will be unleashed on Ed Miliband
    Think yourself lucky - we're looking at announcements from next month for an election that won't happen until November next year. May joy be unconfined.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,872
    kjohnw said:



    Surely the polls show that it is too close to call and any result is possible, also voters are not switched on yet - the budget may well change that

    No if the polls are broadly level pegging LAB is heading for most seats even with Scottish problems.

    When/if most of the firms have CON leads of 3%+ then you can talk confidently of CON winnin sears battles.

    the real election battle begins next week, at the moment people are just thinking about their easter hols, the budget will focus minds on the real choice facing the country in May, and all hell will be unleashed on Ed Miliband
    If the Tories lead by 3%, then they'll form the next government. 1-2%, they probably have most seats, but may not be in government. Under 1%, and Labour forms the next government.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,723
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Perhaps he's seeing what happened to the SNP after they lost the indyref.

    But the worst thing about it is, all those Lab voters thinking of voting UKIP will be thinking UKIP really are Tories.

    On the flip side, it probably means no AV thread in the morning.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    And at the moment UKIP is the only party willing to apply some medical aid.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
    I'm not staying up for Ireland v Pakistan because I need some sleep before the Australian Grand Prix!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Perhaps he's seeing what happened to the SNP after they lost the indyref.

    But the worst thing about it is, all those Lab voters thinking of voting UKIP will be thinking UKIP really are Tories.

    On the flip side, it probably means no AV thread in the morning.
    That should make you happy then. I'd like to read the article before I pass judgement.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Perhaps he's seeing what happened to the SNP after they lost the indyref.

    But the worst thing about it is, all those Lab voters thinking of voting UKIP will be thinking UKIP really are Tories.

    On the flip side, it probably means no AV thread in the morning.
    Yes, and the SNP had a strategy that took them from 65-35 to 55-45 in less than a year. They did the sunny-side up stuff pretty well, even though currency and pensions sunk them in the end.

    I think UKIP's support is probably being drawn much more cleanly from both WWC Labour and Tories than it was two years ago. It'll be interesting to see how UKIP perform in the North.
  • GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
    I'm not staying up for Ireland v Pakistan because I need some sleep before the Australian Grand Prix!
    My plan is to head off to bed around midnight then wake up around 5am.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,772

    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    It means Ed is Crap is PM. Big John Owls posts it whenever there's a poll that his special brand of number crunching shows Labour ahead on seats.

    When there's a poll that doesn't show it, he's curiously silent.
    Only needed to be curiously silent a handful of times since June 2014!
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited March 2015
    Nick Clegg doing his bit to ensure that some of David Ward's constituents remain happy.

    Retaining a seat > National security

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11472749/Nick-Clegg-blocks-terror-laws-banning-extremists-from-universities.html
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Well I'm off to see a video, Night all.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    kle4 said:

    O/T - this really is margin of error and rounding stuff. 1% changes to the main parties and no change for everyone else?

    Both parties are level.

    Indeed, and likely to stay there is seems. That doesn't guarantee the mathematics will work out perfectly for Labout, but it does make it very very hard to enable a Tory most seats scenario, let alone an in government scenario.

    Nick Clegg surging upwards I see. ;) Though in all honesty the 'neither' percentage for him is higher than I would have expected.
    Yes margin of error. Will it stay that way? With no economic crisis or downside, with rising wages and falling prices then logic FWIW should say the Tory vote will perform relatively better. If a little glow can attach to the LDs they may even stave off Labour attacks here and there.

    With YouGov Tories on 34 Compared with 12/03 when on 33. UKIP down 2 from 16. With ComRes the Tory share is up as well. The Labour vote has moved around but the Tories look to have steadily edged up. What does that mean if anything? For Mr Smithson, he can at least take heart that the LD vote is rock solid...

    If the kitchen sink has given EdM a boost I am not surprised. The real rubbish was what he said in the kitchen - his fatuous pledge to 'bring the recovery to the kitchen table'. The fall in inflation the fall in food prices the rise in real wages (all of which he ignores) - they are all more important than an alleged soulless kitchen and what his wife looks like in it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
    Daily Mail could get itself into deep shit over that headline.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,626
    Evening all! This morning, I wrote:

    Enjoy it while you can -

    Tory lead 0.6% in ELBOW so far this week, with only Opinium, YG (Sunday) and ComRes (online) to come this weekend!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,772
    edited March 2015
    MikeK said:

    WTF does EICIPM mean?

    5636 posts by you and you haven't noticed my circa 3000 with EICIPM after the first 300 with it in full.

    Oh well I must try harder
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Your assuming (wrongly IMO) that Farage want's to leave the EU...
  • Hengists_GiftHengists_Gift Posts: 628
    edited March 2015

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking about demanding a referendum this year for a confidence and supply arrangment for at least 6 months. It's old news and anyway under the current circumstances it will not happen. A referendum will need a vote in Westminster will it not? No way Labour, the SNP and the Libdems would allow it

    PS And its better than Cameron getting his ducks in a row and arranging some sort of fraudulent deal with Brussels and leading a yes vote in 2017.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @MP_SE
    It is only fair? the peers exempted Oxford and Cambridge from the act for exactly those reasons.
    You can hardly justify their exemption and not other universities?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited March 2015

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
    I'm not staying up for Ireland v Pakistan because I need some sleep before the Australian Grand Prix!
    My plan is to head off to bed around midnight then wake up around 5am.
    What did you think of qualifying? Merc still top dog, McLaren in deep do do, and Red Bull majorly pissed at Renault?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    I am thinking chances of Clarkson hosting top gear again....just fallen to 0.00000000000000000000000001%.

    Changes of SeanT self-combusting in anger...up to 99%.
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    I was in Southampton today. The shopping centre was packed. All the food joints had queues. There was even a jewellery store called pandora where there was a 30 minute wait just to get in the shop to buy jewellery . All this nonsense that it is only rich people who are feeling the benefits of the recovery . I'm sure France wishes that it is as rotten to the core as we are .
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    Also...I thought anybody leaking the budget would be in big trouble said the head Sir Humphrey. Given the front pages, looks like somebody left some documents in the communal photocopier.
  • Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    5 mins until UAE against West Indies ... WI bowling and no Gayle for a vital game.

    Merely the hors-d'oeuvre before Europe's best side takes on Pakistan later on.
    I'm not staying up for Ireland v Pakistan because I need some sleep before the Australian Grand Prix!
    My plan is to head off to bed around midnight then wake up around 5am.
    What did you think of qualifying? Merc still top dog, McLaren in deep do do, and Red Bull majorly pissed at Renault?
    I haven't watched the qualifying, just read a report on it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,442

    Farage is offering the Tories a pact in exchange for a referendum this year

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFt6fkWsAEIJla.jpg

    Crap strategy for us BOO'ers. The ground has nowhere near been prepared for an OUT victory yet, nor a roadmap for a positive, warm internationally outward looking post-EU UK: the only way OUT can win.

    If we had a vote this year, we'd lose, and be locked into the EU for at least another 20 years.
    Farage has been talking about demanding a referendum this year for cofidence annd suply for at least 6 moths. It's old news and anyway under the current circumstances it will not happen. A referendum will need a vote in Westminster will it not? No way Labour, the SNP and the Libdems would allow it
    You're always very confident about your predictions. Like when you told me there was absolutely zero chance of Osborne making any move on inheritance tax in his budget.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,738
    Am I right in thinking that both Clarkson and the BBC could sue the Daily Mail over that headline ?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,496

    Evening all! This morning, I wrote:

    Enjoy it while you can -

    Tory lead 0.6% in ELBOW so far this week, with only Opinium, YG (Sunday) and ComRes (online) to come this weekend!

    Have we been informed who The Sunil is coming out for this time?

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.

    I suspect Jeremy Clarkson and his legal team are going to be laughing their arses off at the front page of the MoS

    BBC Boss: Clarkson is like Savile

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFq2xDWwAAyi77.png

    Is "Savllesque" a typo? Does "top BBC boss" have a name? Does the Mail have an axe to grind?
    Daily Mail could get itself into deep shit over that headline.
    The Mail - or the 'BBC Boss' once he or she is identified?

    The petition now stands at 894,378 signatures. It might make the million yet.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,624
    currystar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @currystar
    Because some of us can see that our country is rotten to it's core, and Dave and Ozzie are clueless.
    No one is that keen on the alternatives, but they would like to see some of the rot treated.

    I was in Southampton today. The shopping centre was packed. All the food joints had queues. There was even a jewellery store called pandora where there was a 30 minute wait just to get in the shop to buy jewellery . All this nonsense that it is only rich people who are feeling the benefits of the recovery . I'm sure France wishes that it is as rotten to the core as we are .
    I think there is a definite divide. My experience of travelling around, the south is doing very well, some of the big cities like Birmingham are busy busy busy, but the smaller northern towns not so much.
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