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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    One of the leading and most outspoken liberal Muslims. Labour could learn a lot from his stance, I highly recommend reading a few of his articles.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,269
    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    My Lib Dem candidate in Hampstead. An ex-jihadist. Founder of Quilliam. From what I have seen a good egg, good candidate and a thoughtful commentator on Islamic issues - and others as well. Was attacked recently for saying that he was not offended by a Jesus and Mo cartoon and was fed up with others taking offence over the slightest thing. Did not get the support he deserved from the Lib Dem hieararchy.

    He will get my vote, though, and a few others in the Cyclefree household!

    http://maajidnawaz.com/
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    RobD said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 23s24 seconds ago
    Hillary #Clinton says she used private e-mail server to conduct government business while she was U.S. Secretary of State "for convenience"

    Utter bollocks. Once it is set up, you cannot tell the difference between which server you are using on your mail client (unless the state department has additional security requiring more password prompts, which would be a stupid reason to not use it).
    What is that smell...something stinks...
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    BannedInParisBannedInParis Posts: 2,191

    RobD said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    So May is the World Islamaphobe of the year? Naively, I would have thought there would be better contenders in Israel...!
    I thought they'd gone for Charlie Hebdo.

    I mean, that's spectacular.
    They have multiple categories....other winners included Maajid Nawaz
    Oh ok. Best Sound Direction in Islamophobia, that sort of thing?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    MaxPB said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Is this actually a serious post? Orkney and Shetland were first and fourth ranked in favour of No, the SNP have never done well here and Carmichael has a very strong personal following. 4/1 is a joke, I would need 10/1 to even consider such a bet.
    You're talking to the man who is on at 125-1 for 0-5 Labour MPs in Scotland so I wouldn't dismiss any of it as a joke.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    BBC on Hilary Clinton's emails.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31819843

    Perhaps she got IT advice from a Labour figure who used the password - Password.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,324

    RobD said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    So May is the World Islamaphobe of the year? Naively, I would have thought there would be better contenders in Israel...!
    I thought they'd gone for Charlie Hebdo.

    I mean, that's spectacular.
    They have multiple categories....other winners included Maajid Nawaz
    Oh ok. Best Sound Direction in Islamophobia, that sort of thing?
    LOL!
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    Cyclefree said:

    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    My Lib Dem candidate in Hampstead. An ex-jihadist. Founder of Quilliam. From what I have seen a good egg, good candidate and a thoughtful commentator on Islamic issues - and others as well. Was attacked recently for saying that he was not offended by a Jesus and Mo cartoon and was fed up with others taking offence over the slightest thing. Did not get the support he deserved from the Lib Dem hieararchy.

    He will get my vote, though, and a few others in the Cyclefree household!

    http://maajidnawaz.com/
    I really hope he makes it into Parliament but Labour will hold H+K quite easily even without the personal support Glenda Jackson has. Sadly the Labour candidate seems a bit nice but dim and will probably a stooge of the Whip's office. Her views on freedom of speech are slightly alarming as well.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037

    RobD said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 23s24 seconds ago
    Hillary #Clinton says she used private e-mail server to conduct government business while she was U.S. Secretary of State "for convenience"

    Utter bollocks. Once it is set up, you cannot tell the difference between which server you are using on your mail client (unless the state department has additional security requiring more password prompts, which would be a stupid reason to not use it).
    What is that smell...something stinks...
    Actually, giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she couldn't connect to her official account on a personal device. She should have used an official device all of the time, instead of making her own email server.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,324
    As an aside, Orkney & Shetland has had non Liberal MPs for a total of seven years in the last 180 - between 1835 and 1837 and between 1945 and 1950.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    Pulpstar said:

    MaxPB said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Is this actually a serious post? Orkney and Shetland were first and fourth ranked in favour of No, the SNP have never done well here and Carmichael has a very strong personal following. 4/1 is a joke, I would need 10/1 to even consider such a bet.
    You're talking to the man who is on at 125-1 for 0-5 Labour MPs in Scotland so I wouldn't dismiss any of it as a joke.
    That is an amazing bet! When the hell did he get odds on that and why wasn't it shared on here!? Boo this man.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 23s24 seconds ago
    Hillary #Clinton says she used private e-mail server to conduct government business while she was U.S. Secretary of State "for convenience"

    Utter bollocks. Once it is set up, you cannot tell the difference between which server you are using on your mail client (unless the state department has additional security requiring more password prompts, which would be a stupid reason to not use it).
    What is that smell...something stinks...
    Actually, giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she couldn't connect to her official account on a personal device. She should have used an official device all of the time, instead of making her own email server.
    The Chinese must be pi$$ing themselves...do we need to get one of our top hackers on it...nah, she is on hotmail from an unsecured iphone.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,324
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 23s24 seconds ago
    Hillary #Clinton says she used private e-mail server to conduct government business while she was U.S. Secretary of State "for convenience"

    Utter bollocks. Once it is set up, you cannot tell the difference between which server you are using on your mail client (unless the state department has additional security requiring more password prompts, which would be a stupid reason to not use it).
    What is that smell...something stinks...
    Actually, giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she couldn't connect to her official account on a personal device. She should have used an official device all of the time, instead of making her own email server.
    There is no explanation - except a desire to hide her correspondence from scrutiny.
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    frpenkridgefrpenkridge Posts: 670
    Islamophobe? Shouldn't that be Islamistophobe?
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,088

    Just wondering, has Sam Cam or Miriam González Durántez ever done a big sit down with BBC or Sky etc?

    AFAIK, they seem to keep themselves to themselves and just get on with their own careers, despite constant and often really nasty abuse been thrown at their husbands and their family.

    I don't believe either have, - and I'm slightly amused as to why the BBC has decided now, to give a politicians wife such unparalleled media access?
    Both Sam and Miriam did extended interviews before the last election I seem to remember. It's fairly obvious in this day and age that the leaders wives are box office. But then it's the BBC and it's Justine Thornton/Miliband, so yeah it must be all part of the conspiracy to win Ed the election.........
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,022
    Cyclefree said:

    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    My Lib Dem candidate in Hampstead. An ex-jihadist. Founder of Quilliam. From what I have seen a good egg, good candidate and a thoughtful commentator on Islamic issues - and others as well. Was attacked recently for saying that he was not offended by a Jesus and Mo cartoon and was fed up with others taking offence over the slightest thing. Did not get the support he deserved from the Lib Dem hieararchy.

    He will get my vote, though, and a few others in the Cyclefree household!

    http://maajidnawaz.com/
    Peter Oborne, Rowan Williams, and Sarah Teather should be asked if they support the "awards" to Charlie Hebdo and Majid Nawaz.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    MaxPB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MaxPB said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Is this actually a serious post? Orkney and Shetland were first and fourth ranked in favour of No, the SNP have never done well here and Carmichael has a very strong personal following. 4/1 is a joke, I would need 10/1 to even consider such a bet.
    You're talking to the man who is on at 125-1 for 0-5 Labour MPs in Scotland so I wouldn't dismiss any of it as a joke.
    That is an amazing bet! When the hell did he get odds on that and why wasn't it shared on here!? Boo this man.
    I think I vaguely remember him posting about it (Perhaps the odds were 33-1 or so at the time), and I dismissed it as fanciful nonsense.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,170

    Pulpstar said:

    I think Orkney and Shetland is a Lib Dem hold, but I'd be pleased to see Carmichael lose it since he's cost PBers cash on a few markets.

    I thought he was next in line for LibDem leader,or was that just a trading bet?
    Hobsons choice?
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point.

    It appears that the Conservatives have some momentum though.

    The debates are X-factor.
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    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    SMukesh said:

    Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point.

    It appears that the Conservatives have some momentum though.

    The debates are X-factor.

    UK polling report not updated to include the latest polls. The last poll in their database is from the 5th.
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    edited March 2015

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    BBC also don't report the Most Noble Lord's double-diamond standard polls.... ;)
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    SMukesh said:

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
    Well UKPR excludes four polls:

    L+1
    C+1
    C+4
    C+4
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    For the most up to date poll listing, view the wiki, or the graphs on here:

    http://goo.gl/9RfFdf

    /shameless plug
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pulpstar said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MaxPB said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Is this actually a serious post? Orkney and Shetland were first and fourth ranked in favour of No, the SNP have never done well here and Carmichael has a very strong personal following. 4/1 is a joke, I would need 10/1 to even consider such a bet.
    You're talking to the man who is on at 125-1 for 0-5 Labour MPs in Scotland so I wouldn't dismiss any of it as a joke.
    That is an amazing bet! When the hell did he get odds on that and why wasn't it shared on here!? Boo this man.
    I think I vaguely remember him posting about it (Perhaps the odds were 33-1 or so at the time), and I dismissed it as fanciful nonsense.
    Hey, I told people about it when it was 40-1
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    SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,650
    RobD said:

    SMukesh said:

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
    Well UKPR excludes four polls:

    L+1
    C+1
    C+4
    C+4
    Ok.
    Poll by Cameron`s former private pollster.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.
    Poll by Tory Lord.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.

    I`ll go with the websites.;-)

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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,037
    SMukesh said:

    RobD said:

    SMukesh said:

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
    Well UKPR excludes four polls:

    L+1
    C+1
    C+4
    C+4
    Ok.
    Poll by Cameron`s former private pollster.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.
    Poll by Tory Lord.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.

    I`ll go with the websites.;-)

    LOL. Seriously?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    SMukesh said:

    RobD said:

    SMukesh said:

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
    Well UKPR excludes four polls:

    L+1
    C+1
    C+4
    C+4
    Ok.
    Poll by Cameron`s former private pollster.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.
    Poll by Tory Lord.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.

    I`ll go with the websites.;-)

    You'd better go with ICM Guardian then.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    SMukesh said:

    RobD said:

    SMukesh said:

    "Ukpollingreport and the BBC both seem to have Labour in the lead by a point."

    Both are about 3-4 days out of date - do try to keep up.

    Am not enough of a political Anorak to start doing the calculations myself.

    Info from their websites at this minute.
    Well UKPR excludes four polls:

    L+1
    C+1
    C+4
    C+4
    Ok.
    Poll by Cameron`s former private pollster.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.
    Poll by Tory Lord.
    Poll in Tory supporting paper.

    I`ll go with the websites.;-)

    Con +4 with ICM/Guardian. LOL.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    JEO said:

    I voted to maintain the FPTP system in the referendum, but I now wonder whether it was a mistake.

    No.

    AV is the worst electoral system ever devised by man.
    It can be objectively shown to be the best, in the single-winner case.

    But any system, be it AV or FPTP, that takes no account of national votes in a national election is certainly in the running for the title of "worst".
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    dr_spyn said:

    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 23s24 seconds ago
    Hillary #Clinton says she used private e-mail server to conduct government business while she was U.S. Secretary of State "for convenience"

    Conveniently avoids oversight.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    SeanT said:

    The Top Gear host has been suspended from the BBC after allegedly aiming a punch at a male producer in an incident last week.

    The three remaining episodes of Top Gear have been pulled from the schedules after Jeremy Clarkson was accused of punching a producer.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-10/top-gear-series-postponed-after-jeremy-clarkson-punches-producer

    So he didn't punch anyone then...
    F*ck the BBC. F*ck them. If they pull Top Gear I will stop paying my license fee and watch the rest of their crappy bollocks on iPlayer, especially as the license fee will have to rise by 7% to make up for the lost £300m Top Gear earns worldwide, every year.

    Asinine lefty wankers.

    I see #BringBackClarkson is trending at number 6, worldwide, perhaps unsurprising as Top Gear is the world's most popular fact-based TV show.

    BBC = Buncha Brainless Cockhats.

    Grrr.
    For the BBC this is like getting Al Capone on tax evasion.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    SeanT said:

    The Top Gear host has been suspended from the BBC after allegedly aiming a punch at a male producer in an incident last week.

    The three remaining episodes of Top Gear have been pulled from the schedules after Jeremy Clarkson was accused of punching a producer.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-10/top-gear-series-postponed-after-jeremy-clarkson-punches-producer

    So he didn't punch anyone then...
    F*ck the BBC. F*ck them. If they pull Top Gear I will stop paying my license fee and watch the rest of their crappy bollocks on iPlayer, especially as the license fee will have to rise by 7% to make up for the lost £300m Top Gear earns worldwide, every year.

    Asinine lefty wankers.

    I see #BringBackClarkson is trending at number 6, worldwide, perhaps unsurprising as Top Gear is the world's most popular fact-based TV show.

    BBC = Buncha Brainless Cockhats.

    Grrr.
    Might it not be worth waiting to find out why he was trying to punch a producer?
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    DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    So did he punch the guy or not? If it was a fight then surely both parties would have been suspended..?
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    According to ConHome's Mark Wallace, Kensington Conservative shortlist is

    Con shortlist

    Shaun Bailey
    Victoria Borwick
    Charlotte Vere

    Do we root for Vere because we are tired to see her in Conservative shortlists every month?

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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,324

    SeanT said:

    The Top Gear host has been suspended from the BBC after allegedly aiming a punch at a male producer in an incident last week.

    The three remaining episodes of Top Gear have been pulled from the schedules after Jeremy Clarkson was accused of punching a producer.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-10/top-gear-series-postponed-after-jeremy-clarkson-punches-producer

    So he didn't punch anyone then...
    F*ck the BBC. F*ck them. If they pull Top Gear I will stop paying my license fee and watch the rest of their crappy bollocks on iPlayer, especially as the license fee will have to rise by 7% to make up for the lost £300m Top Gear earns worldwide, every year.

    Asinine lefty wankers.

    I see #BringBackClarkson is trending at number 6, worldwide, perhaps unsurprising as Top Gear is the world's most popular fact-based TV show.

    BBC = Buncha Brainless Cockhats.

    Grrr.
    Might it not be worth waiting to find out why he was trying to punch a producer?
    Producer: I think SK Tremayne should be our next star in a reasonably priced car
    Clarkson: I don't need no literary fag
    *punch*
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    RodCrosby said:

    Scott_P said:

    JEO said:

    I voted to maintain the FPTP system in the referendum, but I now wonder whether it was a mistake.

    No.

    AV is the worst electoral system ever devised by man.
    It can be objectively shown to be the best, in the single-winner case.

    But any system, be it AV or FPTP, that takes no account of national votes in a national election is certainly in the running for the title of "worst".
    Single Outcome STV (which is what AV really is) is not the "best" unless you are the third largest party. That's why the Liberals chose it, gives them the biggest chance of gaining seats without them being undermined by the "smaller" parties.

    It would have been ironic if it had passed and annihilated them in May.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,088
    SeanT said:

    The Top Gear host has been suspended from the BBC after allegedly aiming a punch at a male producer in an incident last week.

    The three remaining episodes of Top Gear have been pulled from the schedules after Jeremy Clarkson was accused of punching a producer.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-10/top-gear-series-postponed-after-jeremy-clarkson-punches-producer

    So he didn't punch anyone then...
    F*ck the BBC. F*ck them. If they pull Top Gear I will stop paying my license fee and watch the rest of their crappy bollocks on iPlayer, especially as the license fee will have to rise by 7% to make up for the lost £300m Top Gear earns worldwide, every year.

    Asinine lefty wankers.

    I see #BringBackClarkson is trending at number 6, worldwide, perhaps unsurprising as Top Gear is the world's most popular fact-based TV show.

    BBC = Buncha Brainless Cockhats.

    Grrr.
    What's the world coming to if you can't chin the odd producer who's trying to impose the kind of PC agenda the Nazis would have been proud of?

    No that I know what's gone on. But then neither do the free Clarkson army.
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    JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    SeanT said:

    The Top Gear host has been suspended from the BBC after allegedly aiming a punch at a male producer in an incident last week.

    The three remaining episodes of Top Gear have been pulled from the schedules after Jeremy Clarkson was accused of punching a producer.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-10/top-gear-series-postponed-after-jeremy-clarkson-punches-producer

    So he didn't punch anyone then...
    F*ck the BBC. F*ck them. If they pull Top Gear I will stop paying my license fee and watch the rest of their crappy bollocks on iPlayer, especially as the license fee will have to rise by 7% to make up for the lost £300m Top Gear earns worldwide, every year.

    Asinine lefty wankers.

    I see #BringBackClarkson is trending at number 6, worldwide, perhaps unsurprising as Top Gear is the world's most popular fact-based TV show.

    BBC = Buncha Brainless Cockhats.

    Grrr.
    Sadly, the BBC will have little qualms about acting out over this. I believe they are currently preparing to back a compulsory licence fee for everyone resident in the UK. Given the support among those on the left of the political spectrum for the Beeb, that could well happen under an Ed Miliband-led government. Then you would not have any choice but to pay or go to prison. I would hope if such a policy came into practice, there would be a mass non-compliance, as there was the last time a government tried to implement a poll tax.
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    JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    I find it surprising that Maajid Nawaz can be classed as an "Islamophobe". He is a believing Muslim, I understand. From what I've heard, he seems to be exactly the sort of reform-minded Muslim that the Islamic world desperately needs.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,883

    According to ConHome's Mark Wallace, Kensington Conservative shortlist is

    Con shortlist

    Shaun Bailey
    Victoria Borwick
    Charlotte Vere

    Do we root for Vere because we are tired to see her in Conservative shortlists every month?

    Shaun Bailey pushed forward again as well. What a disaster he had in Hampstead in 2010.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,170
    edited March 2015
    Dair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Scott_P said:

    JEO said:

    I voted to maintain the FPTP system in the referendum, but I now wonder whether it was a mistake.

    No.

    AV is the worst electoral system ever devised by man.
    It can be objectively shown to be the best, in the single-winner case.

    But any system, be it AV or FPTP, that takes no account of national votes in a national election is certainly in the running for the title of "worst".
    Single Outcome STV (which is what AV really is) is not the "best" unless you are the third largest party. That's why the Liberals chose it, gives them the biggest chance of gaining seats without them being undermined by the "smaller" parties.

    It would have been ironic if it had passed and annihilated them in May.
    What gives you the idea that the LibDems (not the Liberals....... different Party ........) chose it?
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,088
    SeanT said:

    In fact, I can't think of a single BBC TV producer I have met who didn't provoke, in me, the sincere desire to punch their lights out, given half a chance.

    My understanding of the TV industry is that it's full of slimy, unscrupulous individuals. Thought Auntie was probably the best of a bad bunch though.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,327
    Cyclefree said:


    Well, a phobia is an irrational fear. Any such fear in Israel is entirely rational.

    Indeed, any fear here is pretty rational given what's going on.

    So either there are no Islamophobes or we all are. A sort of Je suis un Islamophobe/Spartacus/Charlie moment.

    Poking fun at these toads is necessary. Anger and sarcasm and contemptuous mockery are necessary tools. They're mine anyway.

    This is one reason why I think the word "Islamophobia" should not be used. I know that Antifrank, a poster I much respect, disagreed because he felt that sometimes people did say horrible things about Muslims. And I agree that unnecessary impoliteness to people is unwarranted and uncivilised.

    But "Islamophobia" is deliberately confusing attacks on people with attacks on a religion, on an idea - and we should refuse to allow that distinction to be muddied.

    (snip good stuff)

    (Though on the latter I tend to the view that if people want dignity or respect, they need to show it and earn it.)

    You're usually quite astute on these matters, but on this I mostly disagree. True, Islamaphobia can - and is - used to silence people with valid views - and that is wrong. But that does not mean that it is right to tar everyone from a faith or even country with the same brush as the evildoers, as too many people do. Including sometimes on here.

    That *is* Islamaphobia.

    Also, fear of my Muslim neighbours, associates and friends is irrational. They've given me no reason to fear them, and I doubt they ever will. Why should I fear them?

    BTW, I utterly agree with the Israel part - if any country has a right to fear its situation, it is them. And I say publish cartoons, and decry those who try to strangle free speech. But we should also decry the genuine Islamaphobes, the ones who hate as much as those they attack.

    My wife (sorry to those who seem to take afront when I mention her, but it is relevant) is Turkish, and was raised in a Muslim country. She is an atheist. I am agnostic. Our son could choose either of those courses, or become Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or anything else. Whichever he chooses, we shall try to direct him in the right path, and to become a good citizen of this brilliant country.

    If he chooses to be a Muslim, then I don't want him to be disliked, feared or prejudiced against just because of that choice, in the same way I would not want it if he was a Jew, gay, a TS, or even, God help him, a Labour supporter.

    On this, je ne suis pas Cyclefree ...

    (BTW, I agree the awards are stupid and self-defeating, and the people who support them should be ashamed of themselves. But that does not mean people are not, or cannot be, islamaphobes, and that we should not call them out on it.).

    (dons his flameproof suit).
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    The BBC seems to be trying to destroy itself at the moment. You have to wonder if the Tory plants on the BBC Trust and Board are being put in place to remove any good opinions the public still have for the corporation.

    Just in the last 12 months, they've cancelled Ripper Street and In The Flesh despite massive ratings (relative for In The Flesh but for BBC3 its the only decent thing to come out the channel), destroyed themselves in Scotland and if they do end up sacking Clarkson they will likely make themselves Insolvent.
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Artist said:

    According to ConHome's Mark Wallace, Kensington Conservative shortlist is

    Con shortlist

    Shaun Bailey
    Victoria Borwick
    Charlotte Vere

    Do we root for Vere because we are tired to see her in Conservative shortlists every month?

    Shaun Bailey pushed forward again as well. What a disaster he had in Hampstead in 2010.
    Be funny if they lost the seat.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    edited March 2015

    Artist said:

    According to ConHome's Mark Wallace, Kensington Conservative shortlist is

    Con shortlist

    Shaun Bailey
    Victoria Borwick
    Charlotte Vere

    Do we root for Vere because we are tired to see her in Conservative shortlists every month?

    Shaun Bailey pushed forward again as well. What a disaster he had in Hampstead in 2010.
    Be funny if they lost the seat.
    Who the hell to :P ?

    Unless an actual Tory party forms I can't see the Conservatives losing K&C ;)
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    volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Election Forecast now assume 66% probability of CON most seats.No overall majority over 90% probability.Neither of which means there will not be an Ed Miliband led government.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    Flamboyant Ukip spokesman who compared Nigel Farage to Jesus sacked after series of gaffes
    EXCLUSIVE: Winston McKenzie dropped as Commonwealth spokesman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988526/Flamboyant-Ukip-spokesman-compared-Nigel-Farage-Jesus-sacked-series-gaffes.html
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    DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Scott_P said:

    JEO said:

    I voted to maintain the FPTP system in the referendum, but I now wonder whether it was a mistake.

    No.

    AV is the worst electoral system ever devised by man.
    It can be objectively shown to be the best, in the single-winner case.

    But any system, be it AV or FPTP, that takes no account of national votes in a national election is certainly in the running for the title of "worst".
    Single Outcome STV (which is what AV really is) is not the "best" unless you are the third largest party. That's why the Liberals chose it, gives them the biggest chance of gaining seats without them being undermined by the "smaller" parties.

    It would have been ironic if it had passed and annihilated them in May.
    What gives you the idea that the LibDems (not the Liberals....... different Party ........) chose it?
    The Liberals had one requirement from co-alition - electoral reform. They brought the Single Outcome STV demand to the table, the Tories knocked them down to a Referendum.

    Either way, it was the Liberals chose Single Outcome STV and they did it deliberately as a way of gerrymandering FPTP rather than offering the British people a genuinely proportional form of elections. They thought as the perennial Third Party they had the most to gain and nothing to lose.

    Hence, if it had passed the irony of them dropping to under 5 seats would have been supreme.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    edited March 2015
    Does Clarkson have history with the Telegraph, because they are 3 articles basically saying good riddance? It is more over the top than the Guardian's coverage.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Does Clarkson have history with the Telegraph, because they are 3 articles basically saying good riddance?

    He writes for The Times. Probably enough.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,593
    Things are getting so bad at the BBC that I understand that even the PM has refused to attend one of their election specials.

    And that was before Clarkson.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,415
    edited March 2015
    Tory donor windfall for Camerons weeks before party leadership bid

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/10/tory-donor-windfall-for-camerons-weeks-before-party-leadership-bid

    Tin Foil Hats alert. A load of businessmen bought a successful business, not because it was a successful brand, no, something or other to do with them being Tories (shock a load of wealthy businessmen might be Tories) and Sam Cam worked there and David might have been thinking about running for leader at the time IF the Tories lost the 2005 GE...is Tap writing for the Guardian these days?
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Got a copy of "Labour Today in Edinburgh East" through my door.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    rcs1000 said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Against that:

    1. The LibDems kept exactly two constituency seats in the Scottish parliament last time: Orkney, and Shetland.
    2. Orkney & Shetland had one of the lowest "Yes" votes in Scotland.
    3. Alistair Carmichael clearly has established a personal vote as his share has gone from 41.3% in 2001 to 62% in 2010. That's a full 10% more than (local boy) Jim Wallace ever got.

    I'd need 6 or 8-1 to tempt me to bet on the SNP here.

    Now, the rest of the Scottish LibDems for that matter...
    I feel pretty confident in saying that come the 8th of May Alistair Carmichael will be known as The Scottish Liberal Democrat.
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Tory donor windfall for Camerons weeks before party leadership bid

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/10/tory-donor-windfall-for-camerons-weeks-before-party-leadership-bid

    Tin Foil Hats alert. A load of businessmen bought a successful business, not because it was a successful brand, no, something or other to do with them being Tories (shock a load of wealthy businessmen might be Tories) and Sam Cam worked there and David might have been thinking about running for leader at the time IF the Tories lost the 2005 GE...is Tap writing for the Guardian these days?

    Anything in The Grauniad on the industrial levels of phone hacking at The Mirror? I thought that kind of investigative journalism was right up their street. Or not.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    edited March 2015

    Flamboyant Ukip spokesman who compared Nigel Farage to Jesus sacked after series of gaffes
    EXCLUSIVE: Winston McKenzie dropped as Commonwealth spokesman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988526/Flamboyant-Ukip-spokesman-compared-Nigel-Farage-Jesus-sacked-series-gaffes.html

    He's called Croydon a dump, not being from the smoke I need to ask all you lot south of the Watford Gap - is this accurate ?
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,170
    edited March 2015
    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Scott_P said:

    JEO said:

    I voted to maintain the FPTP system in the referendum, but I now wonder whether it was a mistake.

    No.

    AV is the worst electoral system ever devised by man.
    It can be objectively shown to be the best, in the single-winner case.

    But any system, be it AV or FPTP, that takes no account of national votes in a national election is certainly in the running for the title of "worst".
    Single Outcome STV (which is what AV really is) is not the "best" unless you are the third largest party. That's why the Liberals chose it, gives them the biggest chance of gaining seats without them being undermined by the "smaller" parties.

    It would have been ironic if it had passed and annihilated them in May.
    What gives you the idea that the LibDems (not the Liberals....... different Party ........) chose it?
    The Liberals had one requirement from co-alition - electoral reform. They brought the Single Outcome STV demand to the table, the Tories knocked them down to a Referendum.

    Either way, it was the Liberals chose Single Outcome STV and they did it deliberately as a way of gerrymandering FPTP rather than offering the British people a genuinely proportional form of elections. They thought as the perennial Third Party they had the most to gain and nothing to lose.

    Hence, if it had passed the irony of them dropping to under 5 seats would have been supreme.
    Not "quite", and you are still making the rather juvenile assumption that the LibDems are synonymous with a Liberal party. There is a liberal wing, true, but the Liberal party is a totally separate organisation.
    But then a genuine understanding of the world around them is not something associated with denizens of the right.
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Pulpstar said:

    Flamboyant Ukip spokesman who compared Nigel Farage to Jesus sacked after series of gaffes
    EXCLUSIVE: Winston McKenzie dropped as Commonwealth spokesman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988526/Flamboyant-Ukip-spokesman-compared-Nigel-Farage-Jesus-sacked-series-gaffes.html

    He's called Croydon a dump, not being from the smoke I need to ask all you lot south of the Watford Gap - is this accurate ?
    Yes. But Croham Hurst is OK.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,054
    Alistair said:

    rcs1000 said:

    calum said:

    Trying to find any remaining value in the Scottish constituency markets, conclusion I've reached is that no seat is safe from the SNP. A good example is Orkney & Shetland where Carmichael clearly has a fight on his hands. He is an Edinburgh lawyer in-comer, the SNP have selected a retired high school teacher who probably taught 75% of the electorate and knows the rest as parents, UKIP have selected a local fisherman:

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10267-ukip-to-field-robert-smith-again

    The UKIP candidate secured 7% in 2010 and will surely do much better this time around. As far as I can tell SLAB and the Tories are yet to select candidates, they will no doubt be selecting locals as well. I think Carmichael is toast - the SNP at 4/1 might be a value bet.

    Against that:

    1. The LibDems kept exactly two constituency seats in the Scottish parliament last time: Orkney, and Shetland.
    2. Orkney & Shetland had one of the lowest "Yes" votes in Scotland.
    3. Alistair Carmichael clearly has established a personal vote as his share has gone from 41.3% in 2001 to 62% in 2010. That's a full 10% more than (local boy) Jim Wallace ever got.

    I'd need 6 or 8-1 to tempt me to bet on the SNP here.

    Now, the rest of the Scottish LibDems for that matter...
    I feel pretty confident in saying that come the 8th of May Alistair Carmichael will be known as The Scottish Liberal Democrat.
    Taxi for Murphy, Mundell and Carmichael :D
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,170
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Flamboyant Ukip spokesman who compared Nigel Farage to Jesus sacked after series of gaffes
    EXCLUSIVE: Winston McKenzie dropped as Commonwealth spokesman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988526/Flamboyant-Ukip-spokesman-compared-Nigel-Farage-Jesus-sacked-series-gaffes.html

    He's called Croydon a dump, not being from the smoke I need to ask all you lot south of the Watford Gap - is this accurate ?
    It's worse than a dump Mr P; it's South of the River.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Cyclefree said:

    surbiton said:

    Cyclefree said:

    More news from the so-called Islamic Human Rights Commission:-

    - Theresa May is Islamophobe of the year
    - Maajid Nawaz is UK Islamophobe of the year.

    And I wonder if Sadiq Khan will come to regret speaking at an event organised in Parliament by Cage in June 2012 in favour of Babar Ahmed, later sentenced in the UK to 12 years in prison for terrorist offences.

    Apparently Khan has his own Labour campaigh for human rights, funded to the tune of £5000 by the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust, another branch of the same Joseph Rowntree trust which has funded Cage and which has been shamed/pressured into stopping.

    Who is Majid Nawaz ?
    My Lib Dem candidate in Hampstead. An ex-jihadist. Founder of Quilliam. From what I have seen a good egg, good candidate and a thoughtful commentator on Islamic issues - and others as well. Was attacked recently for saying that he was not offended by a Jesus and Mo cartoon and was fed up with others taking offence over the slightest thing. Did not get the support he deserved from the Lib Dem hieararchy.

    He will get my vote, though, and a few others in the Cyclefree household!

    http://maajidnawaz.com/
    His twitter feed is unusually good, with links to some quite interesting articles.

    Anyone labelling him as an Islamophobe has the credibility of the Spanish Inquisition labelling someone a heretic. They must be CAGE lite.

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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Pulpstar said:

    Flamboyant Ukip spokesman who compared Nigel Farage to Jesus sacked after series of gaffes
    EXCLUSIVE: Winston McKenzie dropped as Commonwealth spokesman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988526/Flamboyant-Ukip-spokesman-compared-Nigel-Farage-Jesus-sacked-series-gaffes.html

    He's called Croydon a dump, not being from the smoke I need to ask all you lot south of the Watford Gap - is this accurate ?
    Yes.

    Hasten to add - only been there once, got lost trying to drive to somewhere in Kent, I think.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    new thread

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