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The polling by YouGov on the debates doesn’t make for good reading for David Cameron, such as 50% think David Cameron is scared to debate other party leaders. whilst 38% mostly blame Cameron for the stalemate over the debates, whilst 13% mostly blame the broadcasters, and below, David Cameron doesn’t come off as sincere in regards to the debates.
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Most of the public won't care. Those that do will not have a favourable impression of the PM over this. Like the boundary changes for Clegg the issue may be of low enough saliency to work to Dave's advantage.
behind the smart casual attired Dave waving their placards
with the phrase "Strong Leadership" on them
At least it seems irony isnt dead in the Conservative Party
And "wants/has most to gain from a debate" is an excellent proxy for "is in a desperate position". The changes on January 2014 are very encouraging for the tories.
What does starting badly look like?
To the extent the more general public does form an opinion I would imagine it would split more or less equally between those who think Dave is chcken (wrong) and those who think he has been either astute or sneaky (both arguably correct).
On the whole, it won't sway many votes, so the damage is probably regarded as acceptable by CCHQ. Proper debates might have been catastrophic.
The Tories can't lose. Very astute by CCHQ. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2984681/JAMES-FORSYTH-Dave-s-trick-winning-TV-debates-Don-t-turn-up.html
Conundrum for ed's handlers: in an ed v chair debate do you have the onscreen worm thingy? What if the chair wins?
the general public wont be thinking
Why is our PM going around pointing at fish whilst Miliband
Farage and all the others are discussing the countrys future direction??
You PB Tories really dont get it do you? But you will..mark
my words you will
That's the trump card.
The morning with the inevitable fallout from the previous nights "Telebate" it's simply pointed out that's what the government would look like in reality after May 8th.
You wouldn't need party political broadcasts after that ... Sorted!
Are you children still playing games?
"Despite the wholesale cost of gas and electricity falling 20% and 9% respectively in the last year, the retail cost of energy has not fallen.
Labour’s motion promised to freeze energy prices until 2017, allowing them to fall but not rise, as well as giving the market regulator the power to force energy companies to lower their prices if the wholesale cost is dropping.
Iain McKenzie commented afterwards:
“Once again the Tories have shown they are living on another planet."
Stop reading your comics and have a browse through Hansard, it might help you grow up.
If you are acting rationally, then to avoid a fight that you will likely lose is a sensible thing to do.
"Chicken" is a playground taunt that tries to entice someone to be have non-rationally - it's actually a good thing to ignore the accusation
About 50 including 25 known as Pb tories
So when Cameron has an opinion on how the debates should be run he is stated as bullying the TV companies. When same Tv companies "threaten" to empty chair him to force his participation the TV companies are not accused of bullying?
Mmmmmmm..... Hypocritical or what?
My view don't do them let the remainder Telebate" just to show how chaotic it would be.
We're holding back ELBOW as long as possible to give TNS time to release their poll which surely was with fieldwork last week, but we can disclose that Lab have a 0.3% lead across all nine polls so far. This would be the lowest ever Lab lead in ELBOW since its inception in August, unless TNS come to the rescue!
Now, here's the other interesting bit:
just including the five YouGov polls this week, it's a dead heat! 33.7% each for Lab and Con!
By contrast, excluding YG and just including the four non-YG so far this week, Lab actually have a 0.7% lead!
It was actually about 7-10 million for each debate, not an insignificant amount for sure.
Yet Tories have said for ages....yes we know Labours policies
are far more popular than ours but when.they compare Dave
to Ed will be where we score
So his policies are worse, he will most likely lose in a debate,
he trails by miles on "understands people like me" in polls and
on "in touch" polls and thanks to Cleggs one decent act of the
past five years over boundaries has a "mountain to climb"
electorally according to Mike
Not looking good for old Dave is it really?
In the meantime don't gloss another poster's "likely" as "most likely". It's dishonest and bad manners.
And congratulations on your insight this morning that Lamb could never lead the LDs because he has a comic surname. Who is the shadow Chancellor?
For the reasons given, as it might help Milliband.
The perception to the public is therefore reinforced as no one even many conservative supporters know what he really stands for, or believes in.
From Green issues, to the EU or the debates themselves, he is not an astute tactician, as could be seen from the last GE.
That is why they pay good money to Lynton Crosby to stop Cameron from himself.
I am not saying that the numbers weren't decent. 10 million is very good peak number. Just this banded about 22 million figure is nonsense, flicking channels around, watching for 5 mins and then going god these people total idiots and changing channel doesn't count as engaging in the debates.
I would avoid Andrew Neil like the plaque.
Like this typical one above. truly the work of an intellectual giant
Im sorry no one replies to your posts Mr X but I guess even PB Tories have
some standards
Its so funny, i cant stop myself laughing. You do realise that we all have the internet as well? And with the magic of google we can trace the quote like you did?
That quote above is from January 2015, after oil prices collapsed. Miliband's pledge was september 2013.
It's like fish in a barrel. Keep trying though.
Of course I can understand his fear of debating Farage.
So the debates are a waste of time.
Better to have the leaders interviewed one at a time by Andrew Neil et al on each TV channel.
Plead guilty to the dim leftie hashtag too but there are millions
of us out here..As John Winston Lennon said "Im not the only one"
The general public don't want either of you in any great quantity. Hopefully, you'll both get a third of the vote each, and destroy yourselves in the recriminations after. I feckin despise the lot of them, and judging by the polls, so do most of the voters.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/03/a-masterclass-in-dodging-questions-from-philip-hammond-and-caroline-flint/
The y will not elicit a single straight answer from any of them.
As someone said in an earlier post, if Miliband manages to get through the debate without soiling himself, he will be defying expectations.
Of course this is unfair as Miliband is not a bad debater. He might not get the better of Cameron at PMQs very often, but he aint third rate.
George Bush's single biggest attribute was that people underestimated him.
I imagine that is why Cameron would avoid the opportunity to have an hour on his own with him on 30th April.
Apologies for the earlier typo of plague
The main risk for Cameron in avoiding the first two debates is that Farage would have a free run as the only right wing candidate and probably the only leader involved that will appeal to Conservative type supporters.
Well sunshine, if you have google, you can see the exact wording of the motion, then giggle yourself to death.
The motion was moved, debated, then defeated, and as such your definitive source would be "Hansard", which as you might have noticed was where I was pointing you to.
Still trying to defend Miliband for not having the sense to realise what an energy market is all about?
The Return of the Trolls.
It looks like this site is becoming unreadable again.
This is not the case. We have a lot of problems, but a lot to look forward to. I think it is absolutely extraordinary how changes to welfare have fundamentally altered what those who have been long term recipients expect for it.
I think the next government is going to have a hell of a tough time managing the spending restraints necessary to get into balance, but the nation is a better off nation then it was in 2010. There might be points on a graph where we are not where we used to be, but the trajectory has been turned around.
Plenty of hand picked people, very diverse looking, holding blue placards.
Ed is preparing for the new-look debates. Alistair Campbell is helping in rehearsals by playing the role of the empty chair.
That this House
calls on the Government to freeze electricity and gas prices for 20 months whilst legislation is introduced to ring-fence the generation businesses of the vertically integrated energy companies from their supply businesses, to require all electricity generators and suppliers to trade their power via an open exchange, to establish a tough new regulator with the power to force energy suppliers to pass on price cuts when wholesale costs fall, and to put all over-75-year-olds on the cheapest tariff.
At the heart of this debate is a question about whether we believe that people have been overcharged and let down by a regulator that has failed to do its job, and that to win back the trust of the British people we need to mend this broken market. Today we put before the House a motion that proposes two measures to provide real help now through a temporary 20-month price freeze and by putting all those over the age of 75 on the cheapest tariff, as well as deep structural reforms to the way that this market works for the future. These are the measures that we will take if we win the next election, but these are measures that this Government could take now, for which they would have our full support.
"to establish a tough new regulator with the power to force energy suppliers to pass on price cuts when wholesale costs fall, and to put all over-75-year-olds on the cheapest tariff."
I thank you.
For our business 2011-2013 was grim, but things are definitely going well now.