Yet more evidence of the Telegraphs decline. They apparently interviewed Scottsh Labour MP's with small majorities who said they were facing wipe out thanks to Miliband. Frankly I have good reason to suppose the story was either exaggerated or possibly invented. No one was mentioned by name apparently because they wanted to remain anonymous
A thin story at best. Since when have MPs on the brink been so terrified of their leaders that precisely none will go on the record?
@Danny565 Desperation mainly, that and an inability for the Labour party to remember what "socialism" means. (In truth, few in the SNP grasp it either, but it is a handy vehicle for them to ride )
Perhaps Ed should be replaced by the Archbishop of Canterbury. He knows what socialism is as do the rest of his lefty mates in the archbishopocracy./
I'm sure Scotland no more wants an Established church today (especially an Anglican one) than it did in 1633 when it kicked off the War of the Three Kingdoms.
It needs less church all round - particularly in arpartheid Romanist schools.
Correct. The entire concept of the state funding schools to brainwash separatism into children is premier league bonkers.
Until Scottish Labour are either completely destroyed or stop being the political wing of the Catholic Church it is political poison as it';s far too easy for Labour to hurt opponents with large swathes of the population in parts of the country.
I would not doubt for one second that there isn't overwhelming support to end Apartheid within the ranks of the SNP, Tories and Liberals. But it can't happen while Labour could use it in the way they would
If Labour are tanking in Scotland yet somehow Miliband manages more votes than Dave... that is horrific for Conservative seat prospects in E&W. Utterly awful.
Did you reflect this awfulness in your competition entry earlier? Oh no, I see in fact you have the Tories winning more seats than Labour
It was a clever ruse by Mike to keep PBers honest – I also have that outcome although as you will see its essentially a statistical tie in my particular case
@Danny565 Desperation mainly, that and an inability for the Labour party to remember what "socialism" means. (In truth, few in the SNP grasp it either, but it is a handy vehicle for them to ride )
Perhaps Ed should be replaced by the Archbishop of Canterbury. He knows what socialism is as do the rest of his lefty mates in the archbishopocracy./
I'm sure Scotland no more wants an Established church today (especially an Anglican one) than it did in 1633 when it kicked off the War of the Three Kingdoms.
It needs less church all round - particularly in arpartheid Romanist schools.
Correct. The entire concept of the state funding schools to brainwash separatism into children is premier league bonkers.
Until Scottish Labour are either completely destroyed or stop being the political wing of the Catholic Church it is political poison as it';s far too easy for Labour to hurt opponents with large swathes of the population in parts of the country.
I would not doubt for one second that there isn't overwhelming support to end Apartheid within the ranks of the SNP, Tories and Liberals. But it can't happen while Labour could use it in the way they would
Perhaps so. To be honest I'd abolish all state-funded faith schools north and south of the border, regardless of what political advantage it gave to this party or that.
Utterly depressing goings on at the Telegraph. One of the nation's great papers has sold its soul to the Devil.
It ceased to be a great paper several years ago, in my opinion.
Perhaps.
I rate Max Hastings book – Editor. I loved his line that the Telegraph, Guardian and Times try their level best to ensure their stories are based in fact, whereas those in the Sun, Star and Mirror are often – voluntarily – works of sheer fiction.
But when you hear that the Telegraph upgraded a children's film from the actual reviewer's two stars to the commercial team's preferred three, you wonder whether times may have changed...
With the possible exception of the expenses expose (can't do accents on an e) they have made very little impression.
They used to be a forum for thought, discussion, right to mid right leaning with the odd view from the left for balance.
They lost most of the balance, thought and intellect long ago. Now they are shrill for whatever they they wish to promulgate.
@Danny565 Desperation mainly, that and an inability for the Labour party to remember what "socialism" means. (In truth, few in the SNP grasp it either, but it is a handy vehicle for them to ride )
Perhaps Ed should be replaced by the Archbishop of Canterbury. He knows what socialism is as do the rest of his lefty mates in the archbishopocracy./
I'm sure Scotland no more wants an Established church today (especially an Anglican one) than it did in 1633 when it kicked off the War of the Three Kingdoms.
It needs less church all round - particularly in arpartheid Romanist schools.
Correct. The entire concept of the state funding schools to brainwash separatism into children is premier league bonkers.
Until Scottish Labour are either completely destroyed or stop being the political wing of the Catholic Church it is political poison as it';s far too easy for Labour to hurt opponents with large swathes of the population in parts of the country.
I would not doubt for one second that there isn't overwhelming support to end Apartheid within the ranks of the SNP, Tories and Liberals. But it can't happen while Labour could use it in the way they would
Perhaps so. To be honest I'd abolish all state-funded faith schools north and south of the border, regardless of what political advantage it gave to this party or that.
Yes but it is far more complicated in Scotland because there is not a single church (historically) and the purported reason for catholic schooling was because of genuine discrimination in the late 19th century. It is the root of all social problems in West Central Scotland which makes it the root of all social problems in Scotland.
Scottish Labour is a catholic party, it is determined to protect the apartheid system in Scotland because the apartheid system makes Catholics the largest faith based group in Scotland, Apartheid creates Catholics while non-denominational schools do not create adults of other religions.
The problem is that the belief in apartheid amongst Catholics is so strong that it would seriously harm any party which stood to change the system. The SNP will not tackle it before independence, the Liberals don't care because they don't exist in West Central Scotland and the Tories would be best placed to tackle it but refuse.
This is Cumnock. A rock solid Labour part of the "safe" Labour seat of Ayr, Carrock and Cumnock, formerly the Lord Foulkes ultra-safe Carrick Cumnock and Doon Valley.
" One seat projection from tonight’s figures has it that LAB would still be hold about half of the 41 seats it won at GE10 in Scotland"
I see that projection is simply the spin from the Daily Record whose purpose is to try and convince Scots that they must vote Labour to keep out the Tories and that their cause is not hopelessly lost.
I consider it vanishingly unlikely that a result of SNP 45 SLAB 28 would leave SLAB with as many as 21 seats.
Disappointed, but hardly surprised, that Mike Smithson does not take the Record to task for this perverted use of their opinion poll.
" One seat projection from tonight’s figures has it that LAB would still be hold about half of the 41 seats it won at GE10 in Scotland"
I see that projection is simply the spin from the Daily Record whose purpose is to try and convince Scots that they must vote Labour to keep out the Tories and that their cause is not hopelessly lost.
I consider it vanishingly unlikely that a result of SNP 45 SLAB 28 would leave SLAB with as many as 21 seats.
Disappointed, but hardly surprised, that Mike Smithson does not take the Record to task for this perverted use of their opinion poll.
Well now most observations agree to my original thinking of the SNP having 47 seats in May. Scotland might determine if Labour gets a majority, however Labour are not very far from it anyway, they are about 20 seats short.
The headline is bizarre. This just confirms what we've seen in every other Scotland poll - there are no changes beyond MoE between the same companies polls since the start of Novembver.
That is why I show the trend chart. Each step maybe MOE but it is in one direction.
You sure it isn't in the MOE of the MOE...? *titters*
Bobajob Religious state schools tend to be better than average, if parents want to send their children to them then I see no reason why they should not
If journalism loses its conscience, one of the pillars of our state collapses.
If newspapers stand for anything it is self interest. And newspapers pay journalists who write rubbish very much like ''If journalism loses its conscience, one of the pillars of our state collapses''
@Flightpath Yes, self interest indeed, but once that becomes obvious, it tends to want to put naked women on page three, and peddle soft porn. Titillating, but as Al Murray used to say (after a discordant vintage car horn) NOT NEWS!
The Tories expect to be the only one of the three major pro-UK parties in Scotland to maintain their share of the vote in May, possibly winning one or two extra seats after more than a decade with just one Scottish MP. They believe that a collapse in support for the Lib Dems puts several rural seats within touching distance, and they expect to become Scotland’s third largest party by share of the vote.
The Tories expect to be the only one of the three major pro-UK parties in Scotland to maintain their share of the vote in May, possibly winning one or two extra seats after more than a decade with just one Scottish MP. They believe that a collapse in support for the Lib Dems puts several rural seats within touching distance, and they expect to become Scotland’s third largest party by share of the vote.
Indeed, and the GE result in this seat and the neighbouring one of Gordon will be decided by the areas of previously rock solid Libdems that run along the border of the two constituencies.
Indeed, and the GE result in this seat and the neighbouring one of Gordon will be decided by the areas of previously rock solid Libdems that run along the border of the two constituencies.
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I would not doubt for one second that there isn't overwhelming support to end Apartheid within the ranks of the SNP, Tories and Liberals. But it can't happen while Labour could use it in the way they would
The 1924 Ramsey McDonald that is... with the SNP playing the Liberal support role.
They used to be a forum for thought, discussion, right to mid right leaning with the odd view from the left for balance.
They lost most of the balance, thought and intellect long ago. Now they are shrill for whatever they they wish to promulgate.
Scottish Labour is a catholic party, it is determined to protect the apartheid system in Scotland because the apartheid system makes Catholics the largest faith based group in Scotland, Apartheid creates Catholics while non-denominational schools do not create adults of other religions.
The problem is that the belief in apartheid amongst Catholics is so strong that it would seriously harm any party which stood to change the system. The SNP will not tackle it before independence, the Liberals don't care because they don't exist in West Central Scotland and the Tories would be best placed to tackle it but refuse.
How disappointing.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-KbMG4IUAAg5wm.jpg
Looks to be about 3 or 4 hundred there. That's about 3% of the entire community at the SNP rally.
I wouldn't know, I haven't read or cared about it in years, how many phones did they hack?
" One seat projection from tonight’s figures has it that LAB would still be hold about half of the 41 seats it won at GE10 in Scotland"
I see that projection is simply the spin from the Daily Record whose purpose is to try and convince Scots that they must vote Labour to keep out the Tories and that their cause is not hopelessly lost.
I consider it vanishingly unlikely that a result of SNP 45 SLAB 28 would leave SLAB with as many as 21 seats.
Disappointed, but hardly surprised, that Mike Smithson does not take the Record to task for this perverted use of their opinion poll.
Scotland might determine if Labour gets a majority, however Labour are not very far from it anyway, they are about 20 seats short.
Their 'journalism' there was of the basest tabloid type.
Yes, self interest indeed, but once that becomes obvious, it tends to want to put naked women on page three, and peddle soft porn.
Titillating, but as Al Murray used to say (after a discordant vintage car horn) NOT NEWS!
Is anyone really surprised at this news ?
Out-right liar?
(no offence to innocent pollsters meant)
Scottish Tory Surge Alert!
Diamond standard = You can see right through it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/484a042ae97745655a082ac6cc9919fd0af7d90e.jpg
"But it don't half look shiny"
That's because it is multi faceted.
(is this punning to the death, or first blood?)
But all that polish and cutting is only there to hide the flaws?
I reckon Carmichael will hold on by 10 or so % though.
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surprisingly moody, modey even?