Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Latest polling from Thanet South has Farage trailing the To

13»

Comments

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited December 2014

    AndyJS said:

    UKIP have certainly dodged a bullet with Natasha Bolter leaving the party now rather than during the election campaign.

    The problem is they're also parachuting candidates into seats like Portsmouth South and Hastings & Rye.

    And of course the other parties have never selected someone unsuitable as a ppc and suffered problems, no sireee. Smethwick in 1964 springs to mind
    50 years later Griffiths would be the UKIP candidate blaming foreigners for heavy traffic on the M5.
    More likely he would be designing the Tory leaflets in Thurrock

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/02/tories-ukip-byelection-thurrock-tim-aker-timur-cheap

    "If you vote for a Turk you'll be sorry, vote Tory"
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    AndyJS said:
    So what enterprises will do well out of the low oil price ? Consumers will have extra disposable income to save, pay down debt or spend on VAT able activity.

  • TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:
    So what enterprises will do well out of the low oil price ? Consumers will have extra disposable income to save, pay down debt or spend on VAT able activity.

    Of more significance is that the fall in oil prices has the equivalent effect on the US economy of a $340bn tax cut or a $1000Tn stimulus.

    As a result rapid interest rate rises may be needed soon to prevent the economy growing to fast and overheating.
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    edited December 2014
    Sean_F said:

    JackW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is what I didn't get about this whole argument. I am damn sure you will find there are women who have gone to functions at Claridges in low cut dresses that showed more breast than a woman feeding her baby.

    I think the point everyone is missing is Farage's completely correct assertion that any business should be able to choose who they serve. I am not compelled to offer my labour to - say - the BNP if they decide they need to hire a fund manager; why should Claridges not have the right to choose who they serve?

    Of course, it's probably very poor business sense for Claridges to discriminate against breastfeeding women, but there should be no bars on them doing so, beyond their own self interest.
    Claridges is open for business and says come in and buy something. It is not allowed to descriminate by law.
    The law should be changed.

    Businesses should be allowed to discriminate on whatever basis they like.

    Of course, such discrimination will probably not be in their interest because, as Claridges discovered, the negative publicity will drive away far more people than the three people who might be offended by breastfeeding.
    No Blacks No Jews No Irish.

    Fortunately those days are history and never to return

    I've sometimes wondered how many commercial enterprises operated such a policy.
    Probably very few if any. Ugly smear.

    http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:
    So what enterprises will do well out of the low oil price ? Consumers will have extra disposable income to save, pay down debt or spend on VAT able activity.

    Of more significance is that the fall in oil prices has the equivalent effect on the US economy of a $340bn tax cut or a $1000Tn stimulus.

    As a result rapid interest rate rises may be needed soon to prevent the economy growing to fast and overheating.
    So a cheaper pound - better for our exporters.

    Still not seeing a downside.

  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    AndyJS said:
    Hundreds of jobs. If thats 840 then its 1%. World wide.
    It has been cutting njobs since the 2010 oil spill and its speeding it up.
    BP says ''says it is a third smaller than it was in 2010''
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30372363

    A bit of perspective may be a good thing. It probably employs more people in Texas than the UK
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    FalseFlag said:

    Sean_F said:

    JackW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is what I didn't get about this whole argument. I am damn sure you will find there are women who have gone to functions at Claridges in low cut dresses that showed more breast than a woman feeding her baby.

    I think the point everyone is missing is Farage's completely correct assertion that any business should be able to choose who they serve. I am not compelled to offer my labour to - say - the BNP if they decide they need to hire a fund manager; why should Claridges not have the right to choose who they serve?

    Of course, it's probably very poor business sense for Claridges to discriminate against breastfeeding women, but there should be no bars on them doing so, beyond their own self interest.
    Claridges is open for business and says come in and buy something. It is not allowed to descriminate by law.
    The law should be changed.

    Businesses should be allowed to discriminate on whatever basis they like.

    Of course, such discrimination will probably not be in their interest because, as Claridges discovered, the negative publicity will drive away far more people than the three people who might be offended by breastfeeding.
    No Blacks No Jews No Irish.

    Fortunately those days are history and never to return

    I've sometimes wondered how many commercial enterprises operated such a policy.
    Probably very few if any. Ugly smear.

    http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
    It was a myth that it happened in the US, but it did happen in the UK.
  • The public will begin to doubt the veracity of YOU GOV if it turns out that a 1 point Labour lead can be changed into a tie as happened yesterday.How did this happen?
  • AndyJS said:
    Hundreds of jobs. If thats 840 then its 1%. World wide.
    It has been cutting njobs since the 2010 oil spill and its speeding it up.
    BP says ''says it is a third smaller than it was in 2010''
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30372363

    A bit of perspective may be a good thing. It probably employs more people in Texas than the UK
    The current estimate is a 9% drop in jobs over the next 5 years in the UK Oil and Gas sector. That is about 35,000 jobs. It is not a huge amount at present but I would expect to see that increase significantly if the oil price continues to slide or stay at these levels.

    As I said earlier this is no reason for complaint really. Such things happen and I am not one that believes in jobs for life. But the idea that a cut in the oil price is unmitigated good news is not exactly true.

    Overall (as far as employment is concerned) I suppose the test would be whether the jobs lost in Oil and Gas are compensated for by the increase in employment due to a stimulus to the economy caused by the lower prices.
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    Socrates said:

    FalseFlag said:

    Sean_F said:

    JackW said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    This is what I didn't get about this whole argument. I am damn sure you will find there are women who have gone to functions at Claridges in low cut dresses that showed more breast than a woman feeding her baby.

    I think the point everyone is missing is Farage's completely correct assertion that any business should be able to choose who they serve. I am not compelled to offer my labour to - say - the BNP if they decide they need to hire a fund manager; why should Claridges not have the right to choose who they serve?

    Of course, it's probably very poor business sense for Claridges to discriminate against breastfeeding women, but there should be no bars on them doing so, beyond their own self interest.
    Claridges is open for business and says come in and buy something. It is not allowed to descriminate by law.
    The law should be changed.

    Businesses should be allowed to discriminate on whatever basis they like.

    Of course, such discrimination will probably not be in their interest because, as Claridges discovered, the negative publicity will drive away far more people than the three people who might be offended by breastfeeding.
    No Blacks No Jews No Irish.

    Fortunately those days are history and never to return

    I've sometimes wondered how many commercial enterprises operated such a policy.
    Probably very few if any. Ugly smear.

    http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
    It was a myth that it happened in the US, but it did happen in the UK.
    http://historum.com/european-history/73110-no-blacks-no-irish-no-dogs-no-facts.html

    A nuanced discussion, not aware of businesses having that policy, can see why letting a room in your home you would be more discriminating.
  • Crick tweeting that Neil Hamilton is having to explain his expenses to ukip committee pre tonight selection in South basil?
  • Financier said:

    Brent Crude goes below $65 - will it stay there tonight?

    Broken, sleazy Brent Crude on the slide?
    I wouldn't be too happy about it. The Oil and Gas industry employs around 370,000 people in the UK. Right now redundancies are fairly light - about 35,000 expected in the next few years - but it would not take too much more of a drop to see that accelerate dramatically.

    Of course this is a natural development just as the closure of mines or heavy industry was but just as in those cases I don't necessarily think it is something to celebrate.
    *facepalm*

    Apologies for any offence.
    LOL. No need to apologise at all Sunil. As I said just now, I don't believe that anyone has a 'right' to a job for life and this is all part of a changing economy. Hopefully it will be a short term readjustment but if not people will find new employment else where.
  • New thread
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    AndyJS said:
    Hundreds of jobs. If thats 840 then its 1%. World wide.
    It has been cutting njobs since the 2010 oil spill and its speeding it up.
    BP says ''says it is a third smaller than it was in 2010''
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30372363

    A bit of perspective may be a good thing. It probably employs more people in Texas than the UK
    The current estimate is a 9% drop in jobs over the next 5 years in the UK Oil and Gas sector. That is about 35,000 jobs. It is not a huge amount at present but I would expect to see that increase significantly if the oil price continues to slide or stay at these levels.

    As I said earlier this is no reason for complaint really. Such things happen and I am not one that believes in jobs for life. But the idea that a cut in the oil price is unmitigated good news is not exactly true.

    Overall (as far as employment is concerned) I suppose the test would be whether the jobs lost in Oil and Gas are compensated for by the increase in employment due to a stimulus to the economy caused by the lower prices.
    Yes take your point but as well as 'possibly' 35,000 jobs lost.
    there is
    https://www.offshoreenergytoday.com/uk-offshore-oil-gas-industry-to-hire-12-000-new-workers/
    ''The oil and gas industry, which currently supports one in 80 jobs across the UK, will provide careers for some 12,000 new entrants over the next five years according to a report: ‘Fuelling the next generation’ released today. ''
This discussion has been closed.