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  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    RodCrosby said:

    Itajai said:

    chestnut said:

    It reads like they have played the system. It is a bit rich to lecture and criticise others for doing the same.

    People who inherit glass houses...

    No it doesn't it reeks of a smear campaign by desperate Tories and I am not a fan or supporter of EdM or Labour
    The Millipedes gamed the system to reduce their IHT bill.
    They scream abuse at others doing the same.

    Looks like hypocrisy. Smear assumes something is untrue. To my knowledge the Millipedes have not denied reducing their IHT bill through gaming the system (legally).
    I am amused at Milibands hypocricy but both brothers will eventually have to pay capital gains tax.
    There are plenty of (legal) ways round that too. So don't hold your breath...
    So how do you legally avoid paying capital gains tax on a property you own and do not live in? Oh clearly you have costs of maintenence, but that clearly reduces your 'gain'.

    Obsessing about Miliband to defend the likes of Jimmy Carr is rubbish.
    Retire to the Costa del Sol, and after a while, sell, is one way....
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Ninoinoz said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/533324509475270656

    I have figured out why this leaflet is so laughable.

    All of the Reckless points apply to David Cameron, if not more so.

    It's almost as if the Tories think David Cameron is unknown to the good people of Rochester and Strood, despite his having been there at least four times in recent weeks.

    And being Prime Minister for the last four and a half years, of course.

    Cameron is not the hypocrite though pretending to be 'different', pretending to be the ordinary bloke in the pub, pretending to be outside the system, pretendiong to be suddenly concerned about local issues. Reckless is.
    The only thing laughable is that you cannot see beyond the end of your nose and have no self awareness.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Ninoinoz said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/533324509475270656

    I have figured out why this leaflet is so laughable.

    All of the Reckless points apply to David Cameron, if not more so.

    It's almost as if the Tories think David Cameron is unknown to the good people of Rochester and Strood, despite his having been there at least four times in recent weeks.

    And being Prime Minister for the last four and a half years, of course.

    Cameron is not the hypocrite though pretending to be 'different', pretending to be the ordinary bloke in the pub, pretending to be outside the system, pretendiong to be suddenly concerned about local issues. Reckless is.
    The only thing laughable is that you cannot see beyond the end of your nose and have no self awareness.
    I like 'the straight choice' - does this imply that Reckless isn't?
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Kent Rising - ''Someone tell the Tories they selected Reckless for the seat. Three times. ''

    He was pretending to be a Tory then and not something else. Its kippers who endlessly go on about all the PPE graduates. Its kippers who slam bankers. Now they have one as their new poster boy.
  • Been out tonight, I see a leaflet has given carswell the horn on twitter again...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014
    Personally I resent people who think it is either big or clever to not pay tax. They are just parasites.

    Just a personal opinion of course.
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312

    Kent Rising - ''Someone tell the Tories they selected Reckless for the seat. Three times. ''

    He was pretending to be a Tory then and not something else. Its kippers who endlessly go on about all the PPE graduates. Its kippers who slam bankers. Now they have one as their new poster boy.

    And PB Tories keep going on how Kippers are foaming at the mouth racists.

    They've some explaining to do how two were selected as Tory candidates in 2010, 2005,...

    Unless they've been talking out of their sphincters as usual, of course.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    DavidL said:

    Personally I resent people who think it is either big or clever to not pay tax. They are just parasites.

    Just a personal opinion of course.

    I always remember the Labour mp's under the last government who used taxpayers money to employ tax advisors

    Darling claimed he was doing it to ensure he paid the "right" amount of tax.......


    Of course
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Via Guido

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/14/Suzanne-Evans-UKIP-Burnham-Letter

    “I know Labour politicians rarely meet with ordinary people, but I am happy to pass on comments made by the public to me so that you may reflect on their significance. At the same time, perhaps I can elicit an apology from you on your party’s immigration policy circa 2004, which has placed enormous strain on NHS services and more?”.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    DavidL said:

    Personally I resent people who think it is either big or clever to not pay tax. They are just parasites.

    Just a personal opinion of course.

    I don't think it's big or clever, either.

    Just... perfectly legal, natural and possible.

    Of course, I do enjoy not contributing financially in any way to the suicidist policies of all the current alternative governments.

    I can then maintain a certain detachment, as I watch them dismember and dismantle, as if on a whim, institutions and conventions which took centuries to establish for the manifest benefit of all...

    Just a personal manifesto of course. (^_-)
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited November 2014
    The hardest one to 'dodge', of course, is the Council Tax.

    Still have to pay that, frustratingly, although I led them a fine dance for five years...
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Via sickipidia

    People are so unfair on the Labour Party.

    They have so many good ideas and policies to bring a brighter future to Britain yet voters seem determined to judge them on their last 13 years of government.

    Courtesy of Sickipedia.org: http://www.sickipedia.org/politics/labour/people-are-so-unfair-on-the-labour-party-they-have-417855#ixzz3J64e5vbB
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    edited November 2014
    notme said:

    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    The conclusion I draw, perhaps unfairly, is that many posters are wage-slaves PAYEers, who don't really know much about the tax system...

    [dislosure: I paid no tax or NI last year. Zilch. Hope to repeat that this year.]

    There's remarkably little how much us PAYErs can do about the tax we pay unless I am very much mistaken ^^;

    Would expanding my knowledge of tax allow me to reclaim it all from the inland revenue :P ? I doubt it :)
    The big secret is its only paye people who pay their full whack. Everyone else has it sorted. That plumber and Sparky who charge you 80 quid an hour plus vat, and drive around in a top end range rover, you realise he only earns about 10k a year. He's doing better than four years ago though, he only earnt 6k then.

    Its always entirely coincidental that no matter how busy/snowed under/ 7 days a week he seems to be working, he just earns slightly under the tax free allowance.

    But every now and then he'll suddenly have a two or three good years. Those just happen to be before he needs to secure a new Mortgage. Again just a coincidence.
    I paid £150 for the last sparky, floorboards up job - he's going to redo my ceiling for £250. I couldn't give a monekys what tax he pays in all honesty ^_~
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    The best tax dodgers I've heard anecdotally are farmers.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    The best tax dodgers I've heard anecdotally are farmers.

    It's a very precarious, unsocial, backbreaking occupation, with an ever-present risk of financial ruin, but upon which the whole nation relies and depends.

    If they paid no tax at all, we'd still owe them...
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