A fairly consistent trend over the last couple of years is that when Ed drifts into think tank mode and disappears from our screens Labour drift somewhat higher but when he is on the news they drift lower.
It is quite brave of him to test that theory when Labour are already lower (mainly thanks to him of course).
It may just be me but is another vacuous soundbite like the zero zero economy really the way to go? The day after real wages finally started rising again. In a country where an ever increasing share of the tax burden is borne by the highest paid? Is this latest critique going to have a longer shelf life than the squeezed middle? He really is risking simply keeping the story going with another banal speech made up of sociological terminology which people struggle to ascribe meaning to.
Ed Miliband and you might be falling into the same trap. It is individual voters' economic circumstances that matter, not the headline aggregate figures, so the question is: whose real wages are rising and whose are not?
It makes sense to have some degree of positive discrimination for women, as women's brains are shown to work slightly differently to men, so you benefit by having a mixed team with different approaches to a problem. Only a racist would say that a black man's brain works differently to a white man's brain, so with regards to race we should be colour blind.
I suggest you read it again. Apart from anything else, what would "slightly" mean in this context?
Lets stop arguing semantics for the sake of it. I could have said "significantly", or "massively" and got the same answer. Men and women's brains are different, in lots of significant, scientifically measurable ways, I am not going to get into an argument whether a particular difference is a slight or major difference, thats a matter of opinion. There are however, lots of differences, it would be fair to assume some are "slight", others less so.
The brains of women exhibit significantly stronger patterns of interconnectivity across brain regions-including across the hemispheres-than do the brains of men, which conversely exhibit significantly greater average connectivity within local brain regions
Further evidence UKIP voters are a breed apart- net support for
UKIP (OA) Positive discrimination for women in employment: +9 (+21) Positive discrimination for ethnic minorities in employment: -29 (+6) Right of same sex couples to marry: -12 (+30)
Gordon got a sympathy vote over the Sun and the signature, but that was because he was trying to do the right thing and we knew he only had one eye. Ed's problem is that he appears gormless at times, and in a potential PM with his finger (theoretically) on the red button, that's worrying.
After a certain stage, constant harrying will be counter-productive, as Ukip have found to their benefit; especially when it has a definite political edge. But laughing at the clown may well get boring before it becomes a sympathy vote.
Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage.
The 20-year-old from Slovakia was sold for up to £15,000 by a gang in Greater Manchester who organised a marriage to a man facing deportation, police said.
Officers were alerted when the woman told an interpreter she had been "sold against her will" and was "appalled" by the prospect of an abortion.
Ten men and three women were arrested.
The group, aged between 24 and 57, was arrested on suspicion of various offences including trafficking people for exploitation and conspiracy to facilitate breach of immigration law. 'Nefarious motives'
In May the woman, who was 25 weeks pregnant, was flown to Luton, believing she was going to visit her sister.
She was met by a man, claiming to be her sister's friend and was taken to an address in Failsworth, Oldham.
In July, the pair married under Sharia law in Rochdale.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
What do you imagine that Mr and Mrs White Van Man make of Ed Miliband walking around in an "I'm a Feminist" t-shirt?
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Translation: You hope your gimp will get a sympathy vote. Good luck with that.
List of politicians who have won due to a sympathy vote ;
Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage.
The 20-year-old from Slovakia was sold for up to £15,000 by a gang in Greater Manchester who organised a marriage to a man facing deportation, police said.
Officers were alerted when the woman told an interpreter she had been "sold against her will" and was "appalled" by the prospect of an abortion.
Ten men and three women were arrested.
The group, aged between 24 and 57, was arrested on suspicion of various offences including trafficking people for exploitation and conspiracy to facilitate breach of immigration law. 'Nefarious motives'
In May the woman, who was 25 weeks pregnant, was flown to Luton, believing she was going to visit her sister.
She was met by a man, claiming to be her sister's friend and was taken to an address in Failsworth, Oldham.
In July, the pair married under Sharia law in Rochdale.
Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage.
The 20-year-old from Slovakia was sold for up to £15,000 by a gang in Greater Manchester who organised a marriage to a man facing deportation, police said.
Officers were alerted when the woman told an interpreter she had been "sold against her will" and was "appalled" by the prospect of an abortion.
Ten men and three women were arrested.
The group, aged between 24 and 57, was arrested on suspicion of various offences including trafficking people for exploitation and conspiracy to facilitate breach of immigration law. 'Nefarious motives'
In May the woman, who was 25 weeks pregnant, was flown to Luton, believing she was going to visit her sister.
She was met by a man, claiming to be her sister's friend and was taken to an address in Failsworth, Oldham.
In July, the pair married under Sharia law in Rochdale.
Gordon got a sympathy vote over the Sun and the signature, but that was because he was trying to do the right thing and we knew he only had one eye. Ed's problem is that he appears gormless at times, and in a potential PM with his finger (theoretically) on the red button, that's worrying.
After a certain stage, constant harrying will be counter-productive, as Ukip have found to their benefit; especially when it has a definite political edge. But laughing at the clown may well get boring before it becomes a sympathy vote.
Constant harrying is counter-productive when it comes from a privileged elite unfairly using their power against a weaker opponent who deserves a fair hearing. Miliband is Leader of the Opposition and so already has a powerful platform. He is fair game, providing the criticism is seen as legitimate and chimes with a public perception.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
That's certainly an optimistic view. I think you overestimate how much attention people pay to the news. The drip-drip of "Ed is a loser" will only solidify views.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Since then we have been forced to watch Alex Salmond leading a great left wing crusade in Scotland (and taking Labour's voters) while Ed has hidden under the table only occasionally popping up to ape UKIP. When he's spoken he's been incoherent.
I'm afraid its become too depressing to watch. He doesn't know how to hold the rifle let alone where to point it. Labour should offer Salmond all the money its got to teach Milliband how to look like a left of centre leader with a cause that peole want to follow.
Incidentally, I saw the interview with David M last night about his work with Syria. He may not be my favourite politician, but I can see why you voted for him and not his bro. I suspect you made the right decision but that's history now.
Young bro is going nowhere (in more ways than one).
if under-prompting depresses the shares then over-prompting could have the opposite effect
Not the way I think, Mike.
My objection to not prompting for UKIP is that the ballot DOES prompt for UKIP.
Has this by-election "prompted" for Reckless? Judging by PB, yes. I mean, has Kelly Tollhurst acquired her own epithet?
As an aside, selecting what is basicly a Kipper as the Tory candidate doesn't seem to have worked for the Tories. This bodes well for Farage in Thanet South where he is up against a former leader of UKIP.
Further evidence UKIP voters are a breed apart- net support for
UKIP (OA) Positive discrimination for women in employment: +9 (+21) Positive discrimination for ethnic minorities in employment: -29 (+6) Right of same sex couples to marry: -12 (+30)
Maybe it's because they are around twice as likely to have first had sex at 15 or under?
Obviously life was better in the 50’s.
(My recall for that era says no it wasn’t as easy as it appears to be now. Anecdotes available if required!?
People were much happier though
I think I've said this before, but Ian Macdonald (the author of Revolution in the Head) argued that anyone born between 1945 and 1955 and therefore a teenager in the 60s enjoyed the greatest years to be alive, culturally and in terms of opportunity etc.
Ironically, Macdonald - himself born around 1945 - committed suicide later in life!
Nevertheless, Revolution in the Head is a wonderful book and he paints a picture of the late 50s and the 60s as a great time to be a teenager.
Anyone who has read Stephen King's (born in 1947ish) books too, will be aware of his nostalgic view of that era. King essentially argues in his books that the Vietnam War changed everything. He famously opens his Hearts in Atlantis book with the Easy Rider quote "we blew it".
Gordon got a sympathy vote over the Sun and the signature, but that was because he was trying to do the right thing and we knew he only had one eye. Ed's problem is that he appears gormless at times, and in a potential PM with his finger (theoretically) on the red button, that's worrying.
After a certain stage, constant harrying will be counter-productive, as Ukip have found to their benefit; especially when it has a definite political edge. But laughing at the clown may well get boring before it becomes a sympathy vote.
Constant harrying is counter-productive when it comes from a privileged elite unfairly using their power against a weaker opponent who deserves a fair hearing. Miliband is Leader of the Opposition and so already has a powerful platform. He is fair game, providing the criticism is seen as legitimate and chimes with a public perception.
Is there any evidence that the press are making up all of the internal Labour criticism of Ed M, or pressuring MPs into briefing against their leader? Miliband's problem lies 1. with the public 2. with his MPs
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
The peak of the anti-Ed hostile coverage was the Observer and its story about the 20 shadow ministers. Was this then a clever ploy by the Labour Party and the left wing press to make people feel sorry your hopeless leader?
The most interesting part of the Ashcroft poll was of course the part indicating that the tories may well recover the seat in May. That is a curious effect. No doubt it is a lack of imagination on my part but I really can't see circumstances in which I would vote differently in a by election and then less than 6 months later. I can imagine turnout being different but why would people change their vote when being asked the same question? Maybe its just me.
People like the kick the government between real elections...the only question mark is whether enough people will still want to kick the Conservatives next year
Just to add. Lord Ashcroft invited me to his office yesterday where we met for the first time and had great discussion on polling. I mentioned the above thoughts on Rochester.
He's a really nice guy and it was real pleasure seeing him
Must be great to meet someone so involved in a matter which interests you
On that point I am quite amazed that you haven't said a word about the revelation that Jim Messina was behind the push polling in Rochester that bad mouthed Mark Reckless... Surely this is a massive development for so done as interested in polls as you? You were very keen to find out about it when Carswell accused the Conservatives of being involved
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
just like all those other "no offence committed" inquiries we have going at present in England which will reach the same result.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's "tackling inequality" theme seems to me like he's trying to shore up his left flank from SNP/Greens. I doubt it will work with SNP switchers, Salmond is too charismatic but Labour must feel they can get back some of the green vote still - though as a fair chunk of that has come from the Lib Dems it will be a tough ask.
Further evidence UKIP voters are a breed apart- net support for
UKIP (OA) Positive discrimination for women in employment: +9 (+21) Positive discrimination for ethnic minorities in employment: -29 (+6) Right of same sex couples to marry: -12 (+30)
Maybe it's because they are around twice as likely to have first had sex at 15 or under?
Obviously life was better in the 50’s.
(My recall for that era says no it wasn’t as easy as it appears to be now. Anecdotes available if required!?
People were much happier though
I think I've said this before, but Ian Macdonald (the author of Revolution in the Head) argued that anyone born between 1945 and 1955 and therefore a teenager in the 60s enjoyed the greatest years to be alive, culturally and in terms of opportunity etc.
Ironically, Macdonald - himself born around 1945 - committed suicide later in life!
Nevertheless, Revolution in the Head is a wonderful book and he paints a picture of the late 50s and the 60s as a great time to be a teenager.
Anyone who has read Stephen King's (born in 1947ish) books too, will be aware of his nostalgic view of that era. King essentially argues in his books that the Vietnam War changed everything. He famously opens his Hearts in Atlantis book with the Easy Rider quote "we blew it".
Have to agree, my parents did not have lots of money , but my father worked, and childhood was great , we could afford a holiday. I loved 70's as well, everybody could work and you did not need much to enjoy life and even got monthly pay rises, anybody could afford a night out. I am even luckier now but lots and lots are not.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
just like all those other "no offence committed" inquiries we have going at present in England which will reach the same result.
I was disappointed they didn't add that if it had been the real Salmond that again no offence would have been committed.
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
Most people are only marginally interested in politics and won't give him a hearing at all. Many of people who'll vote next year don't even bother to vote at local or Euro-elections, never mind pay attention to unprompted speeches by the LotO. They've had four years to make up their mind as to whether he deserves a hearing and appear to have decided 'no'.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Hmm. The effect of Western non-intervention in Syria was that Assad's forces gained the upper hand on one side against the FSA, while ISIS gained on the other. Meanwhile, Putin eyed the opportunity while the West flagged up that it had no desire for foreign adventures, annexed part of a sovereign state and clearly has designs on more. That's Ed's foreign policy legacy.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
just like all those other "no offence committed" inquiries we have going at present in England which will reach the same result.
I was disappointed they didn't add that if it had been the real Salmond that again no offence would have been committed.
Sure they would have got same result and subsequent establishment enquiry headed by one of their chums would have found the required result.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
just like all those other "no offence committed" inquiries we have going at present in England which will reach the same result.
I was disappointed they didn't add that if it had been the real Salmond that again no offence would have been committed.
Sure they would have got same result and subsequent establishment enquiry headed by one of their chums would have found the required result.
No but Stagecoach will be running extra services on the offended bus next November incase there is a repeat.
"Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage."
A totally illogical and therefore ridiculous story. A gang tricked a pregnant woman to come from Slovakia against her will to marry a man who was about to be deported. She also was obliged to have an abortion.
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and simpler to find an unpregnant woman from Longsight to do the same thing. Methinks Greater Manchester police need a new Slovakian interpreter
Further evidence UKIP voters are a breed apart- net support for
UKIP (OA) Positive discrimination for women in employment: +9 (+21) Positive discrimination for ethnic minorities in employment: -29 (+6) Right of same sex couples to marry: -12 (+30)
Maybe it's because they are around twice as likely to have first had sex at 15 or under?
It's all in the wording.
The wording was the same for UKIP voters as everyone else. Their response was different.
Actually it's Labour supporters whose response is markedly different from the rest. On "Positive" discrimination for ethnic minorities, Conservative voters are opposed by 12%, Lib Dems are evenly divided. Labour are in favour by 32%. WRT discrimination in favour of women, Conservatives are evenly divided, Labour in favour by 41%.
On same sex marriage, a majority of other party voters supported it. A majority of UKIP voters opposed it.
Even the 60+ demographic were evenly split (all others heavily in favour)
On the other two issues, it's Labour voters who are the outlier.
On ethnic Minorities both Labour and UKIP are at the extremes:
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
Most people are only marginally interested in politics and won't give him a hearing at all. Many of people who'll vote next year don't even bother to vote at local or Euro-elections, never mind pay attention to unprompted speeches by the LotO. They've had four years to make up their mind as to whether he deserves a hearing and appear to have decided 'no'.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Hmm. The effect of Western non-intervention in Syria was that Assad's forces gained the upper hand on one side against the FSA, while ISIS gained on the other. Meanwhile, Putin eyed the opportunity while the West flagged up that it had no desire for foreign adventures, annexed part of a sovereign state and clearly has designs on more. That's Ed's foreign policy legacy.
Putin annexed Crimea because Ed Miliband did what exactly ... ? Even if we buy your analysis, Miliband is not running the United States, NATO or even HMG.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Although I don't like it when people say " the British people think..." Or " it's not the British way...' Etc, I do think it's fair to say that we don't like bullying of the perceived underdog in the way that seems popular American media
I didn't particularly like Farage calling him an unelectable joke last night on twitter for that reason
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
The problem is that in the privacy of the voting booth, most voters dont want decency, honesty and integrity half as much as they want competence, someone that will maintain their lifestyle, and someone that will put money in their pockets rather than take it away.
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
Most people are only marginally interested in politics and won't give him a hearing at all. Many of people who'll vote next year don't even bother to vote at local or Euro-elections, never mind pay attention to unprompted speeches by the LotO. They've had four years to make up their mind as to whether he deserves a hearing and appear to have decided 'no'.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Hmm. The effect of Western non-intervention in Syria was that Assad's forces gained the upper hand on one side against the FSA, while ISIS gained on the other. Meanwhile, Putin eyed the opportunity while the West flagged up that it had no desire for foreign adventures, annexed part of a sovereign state and clearly has designs on more. That's Ed's foreign policy legacy.
Putin annexed Crimea because Ed Miliband did what exactly ... ? Even if we buy your analysis, Miliband is not running the United States, NATO or even HMG.
Yeah but London NMRing in Syria can give Russia the space it needs to invade Ukraine.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
On topic, this Ashcroft poll is going to be so crucial.
If he gets the UKIP majority about right, then the next May question/result will be assumed to be correct.
Let's hope the bookies think like that too, although that's unlikely
Odds will depend on margin of victory and turnout I think, if Reckless wins by more than 10% he'll be favourite for the GE - if its say 42-37 then I think the Tories are.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
@volcanopete Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
ECJ Benefit ruling not quite as "excellent" as Dave hoped, doesn't appear to include in-work benefits. Hopes by other European politicians that is means PM can drop his need to control immigration seems rather wide of the mark.
On topic, this Ashcroft poll is going to be so crucial.
If he gets the UKIP majority about right, then the next May question/result will be assumed to be correct.
Let's hope the bookies think like that too, although that's unlikely
Odds will depend on margin of victory and turnout I think, if Reckless wins by more than 10% he'll be favourite for the GE - if its say 42-37 then I think the Tories are.
Yes but the post related to the Ashcroft poll which was over 10% wasn't it?
No you miss the point... That isn't the same as Van Rompouy wasn't a struggling underdog. He had just been elected to one if the most powerful positions in the world
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Further evidence UKIP voters are a breed apart- net support for
UKIP (OA) Positive discrimination for women in employment: +9 (+21) Positive discrimination for ethnic minorities in employment: -29 (+6) Right of same sex couples to marry: -12 (+30)
Maybe it's because they are around twice as likely to have first had sex at 15 or under?
Obviously life was better in the 50’s.
(My recall for that era says no it wasn’t as easy as it appears to be now. Anecdotes available if required!?
People were much happier though
I think I've said this before, but Ian Macdonald (the author of Revolution in the Head) argued that anyone born between 1945 and 1955 and therefore a teenager in the 60s enjoyed the greatest years to be alive, culturally and in terms of opportunity etc.
Ironically, Macdonald - himself born around 1945 - committed suicide later in life!
Nevertheless, Revolution in the Head is a wonderful book and he paints a picture of the late 50s and the 60s as a great time to be a teenager.
Anyone who has read Stephen King's (born in 1947ish) books too, will be aware of his nostalgic view of that era. King essentially argues in his books that the Vietnam War changed everything. He famously opens his Hearts in Atlantis book with the Easy Rider quote "we blew it".
Have to agree, my parents did not have lots of money , but my father worked, and childhood was great , we could afford a holiday. I loved 70's as well, everybody could work and you did not need much to enjoy life and even got monthly pay rises, anybody could afford a night out. I am even luckier now but lots and lots are not.
Big dramatic improvement (as far as I was concerned anyway) was the ending of National Service in 1960. Suddenly for young men like me loads of doors opened, especially that of travel.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
@volcanopete Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
For the love of...
Of all the critisicsms aimed at Ed Miliband running for the Labour party top job with his brother, his brother that had a golden opportunity with Purnell's resignation to get rid of calamity Brown at the top of the shop and who bottled it, this is oversold and piss weak.
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
Most people are only marginally interested in politics and won't give him a hearing at all. Many of people who'll vote next year don't even bother to vote at local or Euro-elections, never mind pay attention to unprompted speeches by the LotO. They've had four years to make up their mind as to whether he deserves a hearing and appear to have decided 'no'.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Hmm. The effect of Western non-intervention in Syria was that Assad's forces gained the upper hand on one side against the FSA, while ISIS gained on the other. Meanwhile, Putin eyed the opportunity while the West flagged up that it had no desire for foreign adventures, annexed part of a sovereign state and clearly has designs on more. That's Ed's foreign policy legacy.
Putin annexed Crimea because Ed Miliband did what exactly ... ? Even if we buy your analysis, Miliband is not running the United States, NATO or even HMG.
Yeah but London NMRing in Syria can give Russia the space it needs to invade Ukraine.
Russia had not previously reintegrated Crimea, even when Crimea voted to do so in 1994, because Ukraine was a friendly nation, when the US overthrew the elected government and installed a hostile one that changed and the Crimean request accepted. Intended Western actions in Syria merely confirmed that the West could not be trusted and was dangerous, especially coming on the back of Libya where anarchy reigned and international law ignored.
It makes sense to have some degree of positive discrimination for women, as women's brains are shown to work slightly differently to men, so you benefit by having a mixed team with different approaches to a problem. Only a racist would say that a black man's brain works differently to a white man's brain, so with regards to race we should be colour blind.
I suggest you read it again. Apart from anything else, what would "slightly" mean in this context?
A Norwegian comedian did some very funny documentaries done on sociology and its fast and loose approach to science, actually got an institution shutdown by the government on the back of it.
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
What has "the left" got to do with the price of fish? It is becoming common on here for posters to attribute anything they dislike to their political opponents. Is it "the left" or Scots Nationalists more likely to have been offended by burning the sainted Alex?
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
@volcanopete Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
For the love of...
Of all the critisicsms aimed at Ed Miliband running for the Labour party top job with his brother, his brother that had a golden opportunity with Purnell's resignation to get rid of calamity Brown at the top of the shop and who bottled it, this is oversold and piss weak.
Worse than that. If David had bothered to fight for the lower preferences of some of his PLP colleagues he would have won. But he didnt. Worst leadership campaign ever.
On topic, this Ashcroft poll is going to be so crucial.
If he gets the UKIP majority about right, then the next May question/result will be assumed to be correct.
Let's hope the bookies think like that too, although that's unlikely
Odds will depend on margin of victory and turnout I think, if Reckless wins by more than 10% he'll be favourite for the GE - if its say 42-37 then I think the Tories are.
Yes but the post related to the Ashcroft poll which was over 10% wasn't it?
If Reckless wins by that amount then you should be in clover as the Tories will be perhaps 6-4 to win the seat with UKIP odds on.
@simonsketch: "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger."Ed Miliband declares war on his party.
@simonsketch: Ed will say we are a "deeply unequal, deeply unfair, deeply unjust country". Why does he say he loves Britain, he doesn't like us at all!
@simonsketch: And if we're so unfair, unequal and unjust, why are the poor of Europe flocking here in their millions to work?
I can't see any problems at all with this strategy. We want more Ed. All Ed, all the time...
If we are so unfair and unjust perhaps Ed could explain what the last Labour government did to put things right?
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
@volcanopete Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
For the love of...
Of all the critisicsms aimed at Ed Miliband running for the Labour party top job with his brother, his brother that had a golden opportunity with Purnell's resignation to get rid of calamity Brown at the top of the shop and who bottled it, this is oversold and piss weak.
Worse than that. If David had bothered to fight for the lower preferences of some of his PLP colleagues he would have won. But he didnt. Worst leadership campaign ever.
I think you're forgetting Michael Portillo's leadership campaign in 2001.
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
Most people are only marginally interested in politics and won't give him a hearing at all. Many of people who'll vote next year don't even bother to vote at local or Euro-elections, never mind pay attention to unprompted speeches by the LotO. They've had four years to make up their mind as to whether he deserves a hearing and appear to have decided 'no'.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Hmm. The effect of Western non-intervention in Syria was that Assad's forces gained the upper hand on one side against the FSA, while ISIS gained on the other. Meanwhile, Putin eyed the opportunity while the West flagged up that it had no desire for foreign adventures, annexed part of a sovereign state and clearly has designs on more. That's Ed's foreign policy legacy.
Putin annexed Crimea because Ed Miliband did what exactly ... ? Even if we buy your analysis, Miliband is not running the United States, NATO or even HMG.
There is a link between Ed's posturing on Syria and the Crimea (and let's remember, it wasn't principled opposition but a desire to have parliament support his motion rather than the government's that led to the defeat of both).
The vote in the Commons stiffened resistance in Congress. That sapping of confidence on both sides of the Atlantic was a factor in both Putin's aggression in the Crimea and Ukraine more generally and the lack of resolve in the response.
I am not saying that the one is directly responsible for the other, and more than Versailles was directly responsible for WWII, but nor can the consequences be ignored.
On topic, this Ashcroft poll is going to be so crucial.
If he gets the UKIP majority about right, then the next May question/result will be assumed to be correct.
Let's hope the bookies think like that too, although that's unlikely
Odds will depend on margin of victory and turnout I think, if Reckless wins by more than 10% he'll be favourite for the GE - if its say 42-37 then I think the Tories are.
Yes but the post related to the Ashcroft poll which was over 10% wasn't it?
If Reckless wins by that amount then you should be in clover as the Tories will be perhaps 6-4 to win the seat with UKIP odds on.
Flash PB poll please: What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech? A. Clear success, great speech, polls recover. B. Clear flop, doesn't speak human, polling gets even worse. C. Meh. Nothing changes.
I think people feel the media coverage has strayed into trivial bullying - the hissing of the reporter asking the leadership question at the CBI conference was one example of people getting fed up - and we'll see some recovery. not necessarily because of the speech and the strong BBC interview last night, but because he's been oversold by the hostile coverage. An optimistic view is that people have actually been inoculated by the personal attacks going OTT too early: it's going to be hard to keep them up till May.
Sorry Nick what you've just written above is wishful nonsense. Ed Miliband is a dead man walking, nothing you or Labour do before the election will make him live again.
Ed's decency,honesty and integrity will shine through in the end-no secret deals with Murdoch and Dacre either.
@volcanopete Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
For the love of...
Of all the critisicsms aimed at Ed Miliband running for the Labour party top job with his brother, his brother that had a golden opportunity with Purnell's resignation to get rid of calamity Brown at the top of the shop and who bottled it, this is oversold and piss weak.
Worse than that. If David had bothered to fight for the lower preferences of some of his PLP colleagues he would have won. But he didnt. Worst leadership campaign ever.
I think you're forgetting Michael Portillo's leadership campaign in 2001.
Hey, I'm not saying that David Miliband was any good. Both a heap of rubbish. Yeah!
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
Something the left don't understand. Anything they don't like is NOT by definition criminal. And if the actions annoy the left then so much the better.
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
Comments
Gordon got a sympathy vote over the Sun and the signature, but that was because he was trying to do the right thing and we knew he only had one eye. Ed's problem is that he appears gormless at times, and in a potential PM with his finger (theoretically) on the red button, that's worrying.
After a certain stage, constant harrying will be counter-productive, as Ukip have found to their benefit; especially when it has a definite political edge. But laughing at the clown may well get boring before it becomes a sympathy vote.
Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage.
The 20-year-old from Slovakia was sold for up to £15,000 by a gang in Greater Manchester who organised a marriage to a man facing deportation, police said.
Officers were alerted when the woman told an interpreter she had been "sold against her will" and was "appalled" by the prospect of an abortion.
Ten men and three women were arrested.
The group, aged between 24 and 57, was arrested on suspicion of various offences including trafficking people for exploitation and conspiracy to facilitate breach of immigration law.
'Nefarious motives'
In May the woman, who was 25 weeks pregnant, was flown to Luton, believing she was going to visit her sister.
She was met by a man, claiming to be her sister's friend and was taken to an address in Failsworth, Oldham.
In July, the pair married under Sharia law in Rochdale.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30033201
Do they see a Prime Minister?
Er...
"Police said they believed there were currently 400 cases of sham marriages in Manchester."
What's the spread on the number that were carried out under sharia law?
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/13/Leaked-Miliband-Speech
I wonder what specific policies he will outline?
The list of laws not enforced against Muslims in this country just grows longer.
Planning regulations
School regulations
Marriage laws
[Moderated]
Gary Robertson @BBCGaryR · 17m 17 minutes ago
Sussex Police investigating a number of complaints about an effigy of Alex Salmond @ Lewes bonfire event say "no criminal offence occurred."
"What will be the reaction to Ed's "I'm a credible PM really" fightback speech?"
It'll be neutral. I agree with Nick to a point. The negative coverage has gone well over the top and most people are fair so will give him a hearing.
I've tried hard to stay optimistic since his spirited performance during the Syrian bombing episode. It was a worthwhille cause as evnts have shown but that was a long time ago.
Since then we have been forced to watch Alex Salmond leading a great left wing crusade in Scotland (and taking Labour's voters) while Ed has hidden under the table only occasionally popping up to ape UKIP. When he's spoken he's been incoherent.
I'm afraid its become too depressing to watch. He doesn't know how to hold the rifle let alone where to point it. Labour should offer Salmond all the money its got to teach Milliband how to look like a left of centre leader with a cause that peole want to follow.
Incidentally, I saw the interview with David M last night about his work with Syria. He may not be my favourite politician, but I can see why you voted for him and not his bro. I suspect you made the right decision but that's history now.
Young bro is going nowhere (in more ways than one).
if under-prompting depresses the shares then over-prompting could have the opposite effect
Not the way I think, Mike.
My objection to not prompting for UKIP is that the ballot DOES prompt for UKIP.
Has this by-election "prompted" for Reckless? Judging by PB, yes. I mean, has Kelly Tollhurst acquired her own epithet?
As an aside, selecting what is basicly a Kipper as the Tory candidate doesn't seem to have worked for the Tories. This bodes well for Farage in Thanet South where he is up against a former leader of UKIP.
Ironically, Macdonald - himself born around 1945 - committed suicide later in life!
Nevertheless, Revolution in the Head is a wonderful book and he paints a picture of the late 50s and the 60s as a great time to be a teenager.
Anyone who has read Stephen King's (born in 1947ish) books too, will be aware of his nostalgic view of that era. King essentially argues in his books that the Vietnam War changed everything. He famously opens his Hearts in Atlantis book with the Easy Rider quote "we blew it".
1. with the public
2. with his MPs
end of.
http://www.lsm.lv/en/article/societ/society/kraslava-mayor-warns-of-local-pro-russian-agitation.a106040
Doesn't look like propaganda to me.
probably another really really important speech tomorrow
On that point I am quite amazed that you haven't said a word about the revelation that Jim Messina was behind the push polling in Rochester that bad mouthed Mark Reckless... Surely this is a massive development for so done as interested in polls as you? You were very keen to find out about it when Carswell accused the Conservatives of being involved
What do you think of it all?
Isn't it sad to see such a prevalence of Selective Memory Loss amongst such highly-paid and educated politicians, civil servants and journalists.
Perhaps we could have a whip-round at Dirty Dicks in aid of relieving this dreadful affliction?
"Thirteen people have been arrested over a trafficking ring which saw a pregnant woman almost tricked into an abortion following a sham marriage."
A totally illogical and therefore ridiculous story. A gang tricked a pregnant woman to come from Slovakia against her will to marry a man who was about to be deported. She also was obliged to have an abortion.
Wouldn't it have been cheaper and simpler to find an unpregnant woman from Longsight to do the same thing. Methinks Greater Manchester police need a new Slovakian interpreter
Labour MPs cheered jokes about killing the Royal Family and lynching a Tory Cabinet minister at a tasteless Remembrance Sunday event, it emerged last night
The ‘anti-war comedy night’ even featured remarks mocking the ceramic poppies at the Tower of London.
Among those attending the event at a club in Covent Garden were former shadow minister Diane Abbott and Left-wing MP Jeremy Corbyn.
They heard another Left-winger, John McDonnell give a speech joking about Employment Minister Esther McVey being lynched.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2832286/Labour-MPs-cheered-jokes-lynching-Tory-minister-killing-royal-sick-alternative-poppy-day-comedy-night.html
I didn't particularly like Farage calling him an unelectable joke last night on twitter for that reason
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30032251
If George and Ken think that all is above board in Tower Hamlets, then Frances is my aunt, and Robert is my uncle.
If he gets the UKIP majority about right, then the next May question/result will be assumed to be correct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland/
"Salmond: I will miss weekly grilling."
The 37%'ers wanted bonfire revellers arrested and the dear leaders image protected by law
The Mail suggests you may not want to vote for a bunch of hypocrites.
Bring your own chips to the bonfire next November - there is one on each shoulder.
It was like a discussion about AV on steroids.
"I didn't particularly like Farage calling him an unelectable joke last night on twitter for that reason"
He has form....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oXSfEQuJjc
Come on pete, This is a man who betrayed his brother with a well aimed union knife in the back. I know what shines through and it ain't decency,honesty and integrity; quite the opposite in fact.
Lord Ashcroft back among Tories’ top donors
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2832420/Don-t-duped-Brussels-crackdown-benefit-tourists-EU-court-ruling-stopping-migrant-claiming-welfare-hailed-breakthrough-true-writes-DAVID-GREEN.html
http://www.spiked-online.com/review_of_books/article/10944#.VGR9OssgGSN
Ah, FIFA. The organisation that makes the way F1 is run look good.
England's been criticised. Not sure if it's because we pointed out a summer tournament in 50C might not be very clever.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30031405
http://www.sussex.police.uk/whats-happening/latest/news-stories/2014/11/13/no-offence-disclosed-in-lewes-bonfire-investigation
An image to treasure.
Of all the critisicsms aimed at Ed Miliband running for the Labour party top job with his brother, his brother that had a golden opportunity with Purnell's resignation to get rid of calamity Brown at the top of the shop and who bottled it, this is oversold and piss weak.
Yes, the question looks a touch tendentious, but wasn't the poll broadly in line with earlier polls?
My notes indicate leads of 11%, 13%, 15% (Survation) and of course his Lordship's poll which gave 12%.
You two must have had a very interesting discussion. What a great honour for him to meet you!
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1vuho8/the_documentary_that_made_scandinavians_cut_all/
Although I am loathe to back any side with the vile Cian Healy in it
Oh
The vote in the Commons stiffened resistance in Congress. That sapping of confidence on both sides of the Atlantic was a factor in both Putin's aggression in the Crimea and Ukraine more generally and the lack of resolve in the response.
I am not saying that the one is directly responsible for the other, and more than Versailles was directly responsible for WWII, but nor can the consequences be ignored.
And now I must be off for the day.
That's actually so ridiculous it's hilarious. My mind is boggled.