Haha, is this the same Hollande (REd´s one time BFF) who told the EU to stuff their oversight of the French budget just this week.
We´re so spineless of course we´ll keel over. While other EU countries happily ignore all the rules in the knowledge the sticklers for rules will pick up the tab if it all goes pear shaped.
You've got some very decent bets there, Mike. UKIP at 40/1 in cambourne is amazing value. Even the shadow-chancellor-at-the-next-election odds were reasonable value at the time and with a bit of luck could have come in. The one exception is the LD's in Solihull slip.
No sugar coating it, that was a crap bet.
I'd love to have a functioning Paddy Power account, like one where they'll let me have more than 13p on at evens....
Clearly I need a new boyfriend - someone who hasn't yet discovered online betting.
It would be interesting to hear the views of PB's arch pro-Europeans, such as OGH, etc to this money grab.
Personally, as a proEUer, I agree that it's outrageous behaviour on the part of the EU.
But please keep in mind that being pro-EU has never equated to agreeing with absolutely everything that the EU does any more than being pro-UK equates to agreeing with absolutely everything that the UK does or being in favour of the existence of the local council equates to agreeing with absolutely everything that it does either.
Thurrock was heavily tipped at 16/1, and is now 4/5...
Thurrock is number two on Labour's target list. If UKIP take it the records will read "UKIP gain from Conservative", but it's pretty much a gain from Labour given the national polling.
It's an example of the way in which the rise of UKIP arguably makes an EU referendum in the next Parliament more likely, rather than less likely as Tory diehards like to claim.
Cameron will pay, probably not by the due date but shortly thereafter. How can he not? He signed up to the rules and the UK will always honour its obligations. It will not be game over though because most of the political class cannot conceive of the UK as an independent state.
Boris Johnson has come out against paying the shakedown. I agree with the posters below: it would be the breaking of Cameron to pay this. He made a stand and another climbdown after the veto that wasn't and the budget cut that wasn't would add up to a clear demonstration of someone that talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
Looking back through the old threads trying to find out who tipped Cambourne & Redruth (I am sure it was Stuart Dickson) you do come across some corkers...
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As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
Bit idiosyncratic. Don't see why Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells, for instance, would be less likely to vote 'out' than those areas around it, or indeed London, the east half of which - according to that map - would vote 'out'. Hmm.
Come on you good people of GB.We have governed ourselves for many hundreds of years.for the last 40 we have been hog tied to a bunch of communists. Get out sort the country out ,then we can pass it on to our youth.Who dont deserve what a mess we are leaving them at the moment.
Looking back through the old threads trying to find out who tipped Cambourne & Redruth (I am sure it was Stuart Dickson) you do come across some corkers...
********* • Posts: 4,634 November 2013
As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
All bets are about value. They aren't predictions. If the odds are better than your assessment of the chances then you have a value bet.
I went on UKIP is Camborne & R because the price was 40/1 and who know what would happen with UKIP. I think the current 7/2 is also value.
A former gunner in the Royal Artillery had his dying wish granted when his ashes were fired from a 19th century cannon.
Derek Chatting was given the unusual send off following a service which was a re-enactment of an 1880s officer's funeral carried out by 20 people at Nothe Fort in Weymouth, Dorset.
Mr Chatting served 24 years in the Royal Artillery, working his way up through the ranks to Warrant Officer Class 2.
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
Bit idiosyncratic. Don't see why Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells, for instance, would be less likely to vote 'out' than those areas around it, or indeed London, the east half of which - according to that map - would vote 'out'. Hmm.
Middle-class people are far more pro-Europe so seats like Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells would be more likely to vote to stay in since they're more middle-class.
Come on you good people of GB.We have governed ourselves for many hundreds of years.for the last 40 we have been hog tied to a bunch of communists. Get out sort the country out ,then we can pass it on to our youth.Who dont deserve what a mess we are leaving them at the moment.
Welcome mrw - you sound like the kind of chap who'll fit right in on PB.
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
Bit idiosyncratic. Don't see why Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells, for instance, would be less likely to vote 'out' than those areas around it, or indeed London, the east half of which - according to that map - would vote 'out'. Hmm.
Middle-class people are far more pro-Europe so seats like Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells would be more likely to vote to stay in since they're more middle-class.
Not convinced. Tunbridge Wells is no more middle class than, say, Sevenoaks up the road (which would vote 'out' according to that map). And UKIP topped the Euro elections in Canterbury by some margin.
Looking back through the old threads trying to find out who tipped Cambourne & Redruth (I am sure it was Stuart Dickson) you do come across some corkers...
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As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
All bets are about value. They aren't predictions. If the odds are better than your assessment of the chances then you have a value bet.
I went on UKIP is Camborne & R because the price was 40/1 and who know what would happen with UKIP. I think the current 7/2 is also value.
I missed the boat and am on at 16/1... for pennies
In May 2013 I made a model to help me try and predict where UKIP might stand a chance.. this seat came out in the maybes so I didn't get on at the big prices.. nevermind
OT Thanx for all the recommendations from a few days ago about mobiles and FreeSat. Gone for a Sony Z3 Compact SIM free, and Humax box with 1Tr/and a Wifi telly.
The choice is quite overwhelming. Just buying the bloody TV was mind-boggling enough.
I know Farage is often a chirpy sort of chap, but seeing the clip of him on the BBC it really did seem like he was having difficulty suppressing a great big belly laugh for long enough to get out his condemnation of the EU demand. Sooner or later his luck must run out, but at present he must be almost suspecting this is all a dream.
Rumours ..Big game hunters from around the world are now believed to be making their way to Finnland to take a shot at the massive moles there...Could mole meat help to feed the hungry millions in the world...Why has Finnland kept this a secret from everyone..have they been secretly gorging and stockpiling mole carcasses..would it be a reason to raise their contributions to the EU..
I know Farage is often a chirpy sort of chap, but seeing the clip of him on the BBC it really did seem like he was having difficulty suppressing a great big belly laugh for long enough to get out his condemnation of the EU demand. Sooner or later his luck must run out, but at present he must be almost suspecting this is all a dream.
But he has the gift of Ever Closer Union and the ongoing dysfunction of Brussels to enjoy. It will provide decades of fun or at least it will until we withdraw.
The opportunity to look angry at the EU is almost so perfect I wouldn't be shocked if this was just another mocked up argument like every summit ever so everyone can play to their home audience.
When we end up not paying even more it will of course be a wonderful success and proof of our ability to change the relationship for the better...
Looking back through the old threads trying to find out who tipped Cambourne & Redruth (I am sure it was Stuart Dickson) you do come across some corkers...
********* • Posts: 4,634 November 2013
As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
All bets are about value. They aren't predictions. If the odds are better than your assessment of the chances then you have a value bet.
I went on UKIP is Camborne & R because the price was 40/1 and who know what would happen with UKIP. I think the current 7/2 is also value.
I remember the last PB meet you had almost written off your 2 UKIP seat bet !
I did think you were being a bit premature about that
I'm rather fond of moles, despite the mess they make of a lawn. I found one rummaging in a litter tray a few yrs ago. I can only assume that it was brought into the house by a feline.
I took the precaution of wearing rose gloves before picking it up - it almost bit through the leather and then disappeared promptly underground when I took it outside/shook it off. What lovely fur coats and cute feet they have.
Rumours ..Big game hunters from around the world are now believed to be making their way to Finnland to take a shot at the massive moles there...Could mole meat help to feed the hungry millions in the world...Why has Finnland kept this a secret from everyone..have they been secretly gorging and stockpiling mole carcasses..would it be a reason to raise their contributions to the EU..
I'm rather fond of moles, despite the mess they make of a lawn. I found one rummaging in a litter tray a few yrs ago. I can only assume that it was brought into the house by a feline.
I took the precaution of wearing rose gloves before picking it up - it almost bit through the leather and then disappeared promptly underground when I took it outside/shook it off. What lovely fur coats and cute feet they have.
Rumours ..Big game hunters from around the world are now believed to be making their way to Finnland to take a shot at the massive moles there...Could mole meat help to feed the hungry millions in the world...Why has Finnland kept this a secret from everyone..have they been secretly gorging and stockpiling mole carcasses..would it be a reason to raise their contributions to the EU..
Moles don't last very long with my cats. Yours must be more merciful.
Plato..one about six feet long would not be nice to find in the litter tray .. or anywhere..or are the Finns telling porkies I have driven through Finnland..I always thought those hills were small mountains..now we know the truth.
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
Bit idiosyncratic. Don't see why Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells, for instance, would be less likely to vote 'out' than those areas around it, or indeed London, the east half of which - according to that map - would vote 'out'. Hmm.
Middle-class people are far more pro-Europe so seats like Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells would be more likely to vote to stay in since they're more middle-class.
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
Bit idiosyncratic. Don't see why Canterbury and Tunbridge Wells, for instance, would be less likely to vote 'out' than those areas around it, or indeed London, the east half of which - according to that map - would vote 'out'. Hmm.
A word of caution that map indicates that Sittingbourne & Sheppey is one of the seats in Kent that would vote to stay in. Given its been the location of some of UKIP's biggest successes I find that hard to believe. Maidstone (the other blue shaded Kent seat) with its relatively high Libdem population possibly but Sittingbourne not a chance!
Like much of this stuff I get the feeling that a lot of it has been decided by lucky dip!
I'm rather fond of moles, despite the mess they make of a lawn. I found one rummaging in a litter tray a few yrs ago. I can only assume that it was brought into the house by a feline.
I took the precaution of wearing rose gloves before picking it up - it almost bit through the leather and then disappeared promptly underground when I took it outside/shook it off. What lovely fur coats and cute feet they have.
Rumours ..Big game hunters from around the world are now believed to be making their way to Finnland to take a shot at the massive moles there...Could mole meat help to feed the hungry millions in the world...Why has Finnland kept this a secret from everyone..have they been secretly gorging and stockpiling mole carcasses..would it be a reason to raise their contributions to the EU..
Moles don't last very long with my cats. Yours must be more merciful.
The opportunity to look angry at the EU is almost so perfect I wouldn't be shocked if this was just another mocked up argument like every summit ever so everyone can play to their home audience.
When we end up not paying even more it will of course be a wonderful success and proof of our ability to change the relationship for the better...
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what's going on here. We'll probably end up paying £500m and Cameron will present it as an example of how he can win back powers.
A former gunner in the Royal Artillery had his dying wish granted when his ashes were fired from a 19th century cannon.
Derek Chatting was given the unusual send off following a service which was a re-enactment of an 1880s officer's funeral carried out by 20 people at Nothe Fort in Weymouth, Dorset.
Mr Chatting served 24 years in the Royal Artillery, working his way up through the ranks to Warrant Officer Class 2.
The opportunity to look angry at the EU is almost so perfect I wouldn't be shocked if this was just another mocked up argument like every summit ever so everyone can play to their home audience.
When we end up not paying even more it will of course be a wonderful success and proof of our ability to change the relationship for the better...
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what's going on here. We'll probably end up paying £500m and Cameron will present it as an example of how he can win back powers.
At least they're using the standard pattern to insert some humour.
Greece has an 89m euro bill due to its economic out-performance. I shit ye not.
A former gunner in the Royal Artillery had his dying wish granted when his ashes were fired from a 19th century cannon.
Derek Chatting was given the unusual send off following a service which was a re-enactment of an 1880s officer's funeral carried out by 20 people at Nothe Fort in Weymouth, Dorset.
Mr Chatting served 24 years in the Royal Artillery, working his way up through the ranks to Warrant Officer Class 2.
Mike BARKER (Independent) Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent) Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP) Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!" Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent) Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"] Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat) Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party) Nick LONG (People Before Profit) Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party) Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Charlotte ROSE (Independent) Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate)
Hidden away in a story about breaking a Nazi spy ring, is this little gem about that useful idiot Eric Hobsbawn.
"The files also confirm that two of the UK's most prominent Marxist intellectuals of the post-war era the historians Eric Hobsbawm and Christopher Hill, were subjected to surveillance by MI5, and made no secret of their communist sympathies."
Mike BARKER (Independent) Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent) Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP) Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!" Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent) Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"] Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat) Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party) Nick LONG (People Before Profit) Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party) Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Charlotte ROSE (Independent) Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate)
I looked up 'Jayda', apparently its a variant of 'Jade'.
I'm pretty sure that "Hairy Knorm Davidson" is a made up name though!
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Well, I'd be perfectly happy to eat rabbit - and I have done before - so it would be hypocritical and wasteful not to have the fur used to make fur coats, or whatever.
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Looking back through the old threads trying to find out who tipped Cambourne & Redruth (I am sure it was Stuart Dickson) you do come across some corkers...
********* • Posts: 4,634 November 2013
As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
All bets are about value. They aren't predictions. If the odds are better than your assessment of the chances then you have a value bet.
I went on UKIP is Camborne & R because the price was 40/1 and who know what would happen with UKIP. I think the current 7/2 is also value.
I know that constituency quite well, my brother in law lives there and my wife's family have a small cottage near Camborne, her Grandad worked down South Crofty and left it to them. There has been a lot of new build in the area, on the old Holmans site and opposite the College of Mines. I have been told Julia Goldsworthy is quite popular down there.
The Cornish are a contrarian lot and it's difficult to predict how they would vote, but 40/1 is an amazing price.
Mike BARKER (Independent) Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent) Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP) Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!" Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent) Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"] Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat) Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party) Nick LONG (People Before Profit) Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party) Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Charlotte ROSE (Independent) Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate)
That's a good haul. Who gets the money from all the lost deposits?
Will Charlotte Rose get more than the 56 votes she received in Clacton? Will the Patriotic Socialist Party beat the 18 votes they received in Newark, or the 25 votes that their forerunner party - the United People's Party - received in Corby? Are there any odds on the Lib Dems finishing lower than their record low of 8th in a by-election?
Well, I'd be perfectly happy to eat rabbit - and I have done before - so it would be hypocritical and wasteful not to have the fur used to make fur coats, or whatever.
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Marxist "intellectual". Yes. Makes it so much more respectable.
I am with you. To wear or otherwise use the skin of an animal that has been taken for the pot is a sensible use of a resource that would otherwise be wasted. However to breed an animal or take a wild one for its skin, or tusks or teeth is beyond the pale. That leaves a grey area where an animal is killed for reasons of protecting stock (e.g fox and wild mink) but there probably aren't enough of them in one area to make it a commercial proposition.
Mike BARKER (Independent) Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent) Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP) Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!" Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent) Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"] Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat) Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party) Nick LONG (People Before Profit) Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party) Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Charlotte ROSE (Independent) Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate)
That's a good haul. Who gets the money from all the lost deposits?
Will Charlotte Rose get more than the 56 votes she received in Clacton? Will the Patriotic Socialist Party beat the 18 votes they received in Newark, or the 25 votes that their forerunner party - the United People's Party - received in Corby? Are there any odds on the Lib Dems finishing lower than their record low of 8th in a by-election?
Well if the Patriotic Socialist Candidate is basing his campaign on being anti-israel, unfortunately that market is covered by the conservative candidate.
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:
I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party to contest the seat of Mark Reckless who has defected to the UKIP Party and if successful, will be on this debate as should Caroline Lucas of the Green Party.
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:
I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party to contest the seat of Mark Reckless who has defected to the UKIP Party and if successful, will be on this debate as should Caroline Lucas of the Green Party.
He also appears to like cats.Mike Barker probably has the most interesting back-story of all the candidates - if you accept that Ms Rose is unlikely to tell too many tales about her clients.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
'Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont on verge of stepping down
SCOTTISH Labour leader Johann Lamont is on the brink of stepping down, the Daily Record understands. Despite helping lead the successful No campaign in the referendum, Lamont, who took over as leader in December 2011, is said to be about to quit. Sources say she has grown weary of internal sniping about her leadership and tired of what is seen as meddling by the UK Labour party in the running of Scottish Labour. Her resignation would leave Labour with a massive headache just six months before the next UK general eletion, with no obvious successor waiting in the wings.'
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:
I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party to contest the seat of Mark Reckless who has defected to the UKIP Party and if successful, will be on this debate as should Caroline Lucas of the Green Party.
He also appears to like cats.
Mike Barker probably has the most interesting back-story of all the candidates - if you accept that Ms Rose is unlikely to tell too many tales about her clients.
I had a mink stole from my grannie, and a white rabbit long coat from my mum. I loved suede too - there was a wonderful furrier in Newcastle back in the 80s that finally closed down as it became very unPC.
A huge shame IMO, their range of fragrant pastel suede trousers and shammy leather dresses were just marvellous.
I spent an afternoon in NYork 5th Ave looking at fur coats and they were a bit too opulent/Dallas like. Italian ones are much more to my liking. I ended up taking home an outrageous hounds-tooth jacket that I cut the angora cuffs off!
Well, I'd be perfectly happy to eat rabbit - and I have done before - so it would be hypocritical and wasteful not to have the fur used to make fur coats, or whatever.
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
"Her resignation would leave Labour with a massive headache just six months before the next UK general eletion, with no obvious successor waiting in the wings.'"
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:
I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party to contest the seat of Mark Reckless who has defected to the UKIP Party and if successful, will be on this debate as should Caroline Lucas of the Green Party.
He also appears to like cats.
Mike Barker probably has the most interesting back-story of all the candidates - if you accept that Ms Rose is unlikely to tell too many tales about her clients.
I went hunting for a polar bear rug, but bizarrely there aren't any real ones on eBay when I looked - it could be my pathetic Google-Fu of course.
Had a reindeer one from Sweden a few yrs ago, it was super. Then kitties peed on it and it moulted all over the bath when I tried to wash it...
Why I have cats is beyond me. All they seem to do is break or spoil things!
EDIT Polar bears are actually black skinned [look at their pads or noses], and have terrible trouble when it gets too warm, so I gather. Their fur is white/transparent as a result of evolution to block the sun's effects.
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:
I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party to contest the seat of Mark Reckless who has defected to the UKIP Party and if successful, will be on this debate as should Caroline Lucas of the Green Party.
He also appears to like cats.
Mike Barker probably has the most interesting back-story of all the candidates - if you accept that Ms Rose is unlikely to tell too many tales about her clients.
Another high school shooting - this one in Marysville Washington.
Shooter dead and about 6 injured
Federal ban on guns. Obama should make this his legacy. But won't.
Ban no-gun zones. They are what's causing the problem here.
Killers who want to rampage will naturally head for places that don't allow guns. Schools, cinemas, etc. No chance of an armed civilian there to stop them.
Personally I try not eat in a gun-free restaurant when I go to the US ... I don't feel safe in one.
The first step to sort this nonsense out is Concealed Carry for teachers.
Had quite a long discussion with an anti-fox hunting Lefty about eating deer a couple of days ago. He thought eating venison was *posh* but had been almost run off the road by errant ones on his local A road.
I think the penny dropped that eating Bambi or his Mum wasn't automatically a bad thing or posh.
Well, I'd be perfectly happy to eat rabbit - and I have done before - so it would be hypocritical and wasteful not to have the fur used to make fur coats, or whatever.
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Marxist "intellectual". Yes. Makes it so much more respectable.
I am with you. To wear or otherwise use the skin of an animal that has been taken for the pot is a sensible use of a resource that would otherwise be wasted. However to breed an animal or take a wild one for its skin, or tusks or teeth is beyond the pale. That leaves a grey area where an animal is killed for reasons of protecting stock (e.g fox and wild mink) but there probably aren't enough of them in one area to make it a commercial proposition.
Another high school shooting - this one in Marysville Washington.
Shooter dead and about 6 injured
Federal ban on guns. Obama should make this his legacy. But won't.
Care to explain how they are going to impound the tens of millions of, currently, legally owned firearms?
Round them up. Amnesty. Until they are all gone.
You remind me of an old monty python sketch. Children's tv program, how do we stop sickness in the world? Study, become a doctor and jolly well discover a cure for all illness.
How do you play the piano? Open the lid and press the black and white keys.
That's the level of your answer. If amnesty worked nobody would be stabbed to death because we currently have a knife amnesty running nationally.
Another high school shooting - this one in Marysville Washington.
Shooter dead and about 6 injured
Federal ban on guns. Obama should make this his legacy. But won't.
Ban no-gun zones. They are what's causing the problem here.
Killers who want to rampage will naturally head for places that don't allow guns. Schools, cinemas, etc. No chance of an armed civilian there to stop them.
Personally I try not eat in a gun-free restaurant when I go to the US ... I don't feel safe in one.
The first step to sort this nonsense out is Concealed Carry for teachers.
I'm going to have to disagree. Civilised human beings have no need to carry guns. The US is its own worst enemy with this right to bear arms malarky.
Had quite a long discussion with an anti-fox hunting Lefty about eating deer a couple of days ago. He thought eating venison was *posh* but had been almost run off the road by errant ones on his local A road.
I think the penny dropped that eating Bambi or his Mum wasn't automatically a bad thing or posh.
Well, I'd be perfectly happy to eat rabbit - and I have done before - so it would be hypocritical and wasteful not to have the fur used to make fur coats, or whatever.
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
Slow on here this evening... speaking of politically sensitive issues - how do PBers feel about fur coats? All the fuss about fox-hunting seemed to get mixed in with it all, and it's VERY unfashionable to wear real fur.
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
Marxist "intellectual". Yes. Makes it so much more respectable.
I am with you. To wear or otherwise use the skin of an animal that has been taken for the pot is a sensible use of a resource that would otherwise be wasted. However to breed an animal or take a wild one for its skin, or tusks or teeth is beyond the pale. That leaves a grey area where an animal is killed for reasons of protecting stock (e.g fox and wild mink) but there probably aren't enough of them in one area to make it a commercial proposition.
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Thurrock was heavily tipped at 16/1, and is now 4/5...
@AFP: #BREAKING Hollande tells Cameron all EU states must respect budget rules
We´re so spineless of course we´ll keel over. While other EU countries happily ignore all the rules in the knowledge the sticklers for rules will pick up the tab if it all goes pear shaped.
No sugar coating it, that was a crap bet.
I'd love to have a functioning Paddy Power account, like one where they'll let me have more than 13p on at evens....
Clearly I need a new boyfriend - someone who hasn't yet discovered online betting.
I should put that on my grindr profile...
twitter.com/MisterBenWalker/status/524975080997396481
As the only anti-EU party, there's a lot of potential for UK there!
But please keep in mind that being pro-EU has never equated to agreeing with absolutely everything that the EU does any more than being pro-UK equates to agreeing with absolutely everything that the UK does or being in favour of the existence of the local council equates to agreeing with absolutely everything that it does either.
He tipped Cambourne and Redruth last year
It's an example of the way in which the rise of UKIP arguably makes an EU referendum in the next Parliament more likely, rather than less likely as Tory diehards like to claim.
increased EU contribution»Lisbon»Gordon Brown»Labour»europhiles»against referendum
The Tories are so pathetic they will probably apologies for someone else´s cock up.
They will lose as they don´t want to win. Where is their killer instinct.
They already missed an open goal in Rotherham.
http://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/market?nodeId=MENU:13864349&id=1.105756340
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As most seats are safe seats a very large number of people vote for a candidate that cannot win. That is true of all parties.
As the LDs are well known to be pro Europe and anti a lot of UKIP policies, I cannot see that many LD to UKIP switchers, at least when a real election comes.
I cannot see UKIP pushing the LDs into 4th in the GE; though expect it in the Euro elections.
I think OGH's tip for the Conservatives as biggest vote share in the Euros remains the value bet.
Get out sort the country out ,then we can pass it on to our youth.Who dont deserve what a mess we are leaving them at the moment.
I went on UKIP is Camborne & R because the price was 40/1 and who know what would happen with UKIP. I think the current 7/2 is also value.
http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/887/politicalbetting-com-blog-archive-take-the-33-1-that-ukip-will-win-cambourne-and-redruth/p1
Rod Crosby" An evenly-spread 15% gets you nothing under FPTP, and I'll also eat my hat if UKIP get anywhere near that in 2015"
Welcome mrw - you sound like the kind of chap who'll fit right in on PB.
In May 2013 I made a model to help me try and predict where UKIP might stand a chance.. this seat came out in the maybes so I didn't get on at the big prices.. nevermind
The choice is quite overwhelming. Just buying the bloody TV was mind-boggling enough.
Same day as the local elections..
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Take the 33-1 ?
On at 40-1
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Anorak said:
First? And no chance surely, given how people revert to the three main parties when there's a "proper" election.
Still, as a trading bet...
I'm afraid there won't be much trading with the £2.51 Paddy Power allows you !
When we end up not paying even more it will of course be a wonderful success and proof of our ability to change the relationship for the better...
I did think you were being a bit premature about that
I took the precaution of wearing rose gloves before picking it up - it almost bit through the leather and then disappeared promptly underground when I took it outside/shook it off. What lovely fur coats and cute feet they have.
Like much of this stuff I get the feeling that a lot of it has been decided by lucky dip!
They really have no idea about social no-nos. They'll be voting Kipper next.
Greece has an 89m euro bill due to its economic out-performance. I shit ye not.
http://order-order.com/2014/10/24/it-is-the-eve-of-st-crispins-day-dave/?utm_source=Guy+Fawkes'+Blog+List&utm_campaign=f6d2cde51f-happy+hour&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_547885726c-f6d2cde51f-225753777
Mr. Dee, sounds better than the ritual misery of a typical funeral.
A bit pretentious for a WO2, really.
Mike BARKER (Independent)
Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent)
Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP)
Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!"
Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent)
Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"]
Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat)
Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party)
Nick LONG (People Before Profit)
Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party)
Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP))
Charlotte ROSE (Independent)
Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate)
I wish I could fish in these mug punter waters
Negotiate Negotiate Negotiate
The inference being they would pay the Tart Tax
Similarly Shapps was on and the inference of his interview was the Tories will pay the Tart Tax after negotiation eventually too.
As Farage pointed out they do not have a choice if they wish to remain members
"The files also confirm that two of the UK's most prominent Marxist intellectuals of the post-war era the historians Eric Hobsbawm and Christopher Hill, were subjected to surveillance by MI5, and made no secret of their communist sympathies."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29749350
I'm pretty sure that "Hairy Knorm Davidson" is a made up name though!
Maybe it's my vintage or attitude, but I've no problem with it at all - provided they didn't recently belong to an endangered species.
There are some super ones available on eBay that I've stuck on my wish list. This one is simply to die for [or as several have, literally]. Hope this works - it's in my Wish List ebay.co.uk/cln/ukphili-lt0ro/fur/129603236013
Real fur does moult like crazy, whatever mammal it came from IME. Rabbits or reindeer.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/kv-2-3983.pdf
Another tranche of files.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/kv-2-3985.pdf
Perhaps it's a little bit different if the fur is from a predator animal that isn't normally eaten, like mink or fox.
When my grandma arrived in England from Vienna just before WWII the only thing of any value that she had with her was her fur coat. I'm told that it was very warm and that she looked very good in it.
I think polar bear fur would be warm and it would save them from drowning if the world warms up. A win-win scenario
The Cornish are a contrarian lot and it's difficult to predict how they would vote, but 40/1 is an amazing price.
Will Charlotte Rose get more than the 56 votes she received in Clacton? Will the Patriotic Socialist Party beat the 18 votes they received in Newark, or the 25 votes that their forerunner party - the United People's Party - received in Corby? Are there any odds on the Lib Dems finishing lower than their record low of 8th in a by-election?
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/124677/anti-israel-activist-chosen-tory-candidate-rochester
Who knows, the Tories might be really desperate for left wing votes.
Pissed off that Galloway didn't talk to him about standing in Rochester and Strood. Apparently has an MBE? Says this:He also appears to like cats.
Google isn't telling me anything about Mr Chalis.
See a 2008 BBC News article and some words he wrote about himself. Also did jail time for non-payment of council tax.
The Just Political Party are roughly in the same sort of political space as the Pro-Euro Conservative Party.
Shooter dead and about 6 injured
Leather is affordable by many.
Fur is affordable by a few.
'Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont on verge of stepping down
SCOTTISH Labour leader Johann Lamont is on the brink of stepping down, the Daily Record understands.
Despite helping lead the successful No campaign in the referendum, Lamont, who took over as leader in December 2011, is said to be about to quit.
Sources say she has grown weary of internal sniping about her leadership and tired of what is seen as meddling by the UK Labour party in the running of Scottish Labour.
Her resignation would leave Labour with a massive headache just six months before the next UK general eletion, with no obvious successor waiting in the wings.'
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-labour-leader-johann-lamont-4501970
See a 2008 BBC News article and some words he wrote about himself. Also did jail time for non-payment of council tax.More about Mike Barker - in his comment at the bottom - and other bomb disposal experts in Northern Ireland.
As for his legacy, we're already suffering it - debt, lack of leadship, government over reach, and almost destroying the healthcare system
Anderson Cooper might not even travel to the scene.
A huge shame IMO, their range of fragrant pastel suede trousers and shammy leather dresses were just marvellous.
I spent an afternoon in NYork 5th Ave looking at fur coats and they were a bit too opulent/Dallas like. Italian ones are much more to my liking. I ended up taking home an outrageous hounds-tooth jacket that I cut the angora cuffs off!
"Her resignation would leave Labour with a massive headache just six months before the next UK general eletion, with no obvious successor waiting in the wings.'"
Anything but a headache.....
The future's bright. The future's Brown.
Had a reindeer one from Sweden a few yrs ago, it was super. Then kitties peed on it and it moulted all over the bath when I tried to wash it...
Why I have cats is beyond me. All they seem to do is break or spoil things!
EDIT Polar bears are actually black skinned [look at their pads or noses], and have terrible trouble when it gets too warm, so I gather. Their fur is white/transparent as a result of evolution to block the sun's effects.
I'd rather hoped she'd have the sense to stay above it all.
Personally I'm more concerned about the 7000lb nuclear bomb dropped off Tybee Island near Savannah in 1958 - it's not all that far from me..
Killers who want to rampage will naturally head for places that don't allow guns. Schools, cinemas, etc. No chance of an armed civilian there to stop them.
Personally I try not eat in a gun-free restaurant when I go to the US ... I don't feel safe in one.
The first step to sort this nonsense out is Concealed Carry for teachers.
I think the penny dropped that eating Bambi or his Mum wasn't automatically a bad thing or posh.
Children's tv program, how do we stop sickness in the world? Study, become a doctor and jolly well discover a cure for all illness.
How do you play the piano? Open the lid and press the black and white keys.
That's the level of your answer. If amnesty worked nobody would be stabbed to death because we currently have a knife amnesty running nationally.
Bought 2 venison steaks in Sainsbury for £6