Please notice, in my last comment I did say "filling their places of worship", what they might be doing to their clothing around their nether regions is obviously due to the Norovirus.
Are people mucking about a bit when they bang on about the daily yougov as if every small change means something?
It's train-spotting for politics nerds.
I am a political nerd, but this passes me by
Some of us had money on the YouGov.
When the polls break away from the status quo it becomes interesting.
Take last year, after the Syria vote the Lab lead jumped from 4 to 10. I was accused of being obsessed when I spent the next few days analysing the next few YouGovs to see if it was a blip or a trend.
Awkward - "Britain will "leave the crisis behind" this year and cement its position as the fastest-growing, large, advanced economy, according to the International Monetary Fund. "
Well I wouldn't expect an unreconstructed socialist neanderthal like yourself to understand phrases like the 'objectification of women' but Mrs Danczuk is seriously letting the sisterhood down particularly when the party has been making an issue out of it.
Street-Porter said she felt "ashamed" that Danczuk believed she could be a role model to girls in Rochdale as well as "getting your assets out on a Friday night and posting a picture"
Ed also said that he didn’t want his sons growing up in a country where they are given the ‘perception’ that women and girls are sex objects.
The objectification of women on Page 3 reinforces this false perception of what it is to be female, daily.
Finally, he called Page 3 ‘a total anachronism’ that doesn’t have a place in the modern world. We wish we could argue that it has never had a place, but unfortunately, the 70s was a very sexist era.
Personally I don't give a toss but I'm sure there will be some unhappy campers in the red camp
She appears to have taken photos of herself wearing clothes. What's your point?
Well if you are going to be that obtuse about it, I'm not sure I can be bothered because its your party's political crassness she is crapping all over.
Suffice to say sexual objectification doesn't differentiate on the basis of who is the originator nor is it predicated necessarily on whether someone is naked or not.
Of course from a political perspective given the nearby by-election in Heywood, the type of issues involved and the wider criticism of the Labour party over those issues it's not smart for this to come out (presumably such a flare up will make the local papers).
More importantly if I was to make a serious observation it is that I think she's daft to do it because you never know what sort of idiot weirdos are hanging about on Twitter and other social media sites! She could attract unwanted attention and I don't mean just from Janet Street-Porter,.......
Loads of women wear low cut dresses and sometimes tweet selfies when they are going out, my friends do. So what? You are just being mean spirited - as is Porter, as usual. Good to have more normal women in politics like Dansuck
Are people mucking about a bit when they bang on about the daily yougov as if every small change means something?
It's train-spotting for politics nerds.
I am a political nerd, but this passes me by
Some of us had money on the YouGov.
When the polls break away from the status quo it becomes interesting.
Take last year, after the Syria vote the Lab lead jumped from 4 to 10. I was accused of being obsessed when I spent the next few days analysing the next few YouGovs to see if it was a blip or a trend.
I must admit I'm with isam. Betting implications of the crossover bets aside, we do run the risk of overanalysing statistical noise.
I've had a word search of Cameron's speech to conference and the word *debt* appears twice. Once in praise of William Hague and once in ref to the debt left by Labour.
Deficit appears 5x. Cutting the deficit was essential x2; Miliband not mentioning it; Labour's legacy as the biggest since WW2 and what will happen if Labour get back in.
I think some on here are indulging in wishful thinking that Cameron claimed anywhere in his speech that he was lying about *paying down the debt*.
Are people mucking about a bit when they bang on about the daily yougov as if every small change means something?
It's train-spotting for politics nerds.
I am a political nerd, but this passes me by
Some of us had money on the YouGov.
When the polls break away from the status quo it becomes interesting.
Take last year, after the Syria vote the Lab lead jumped from 4 to 10. I was accused of being obsessed when I spent the next few days analysing the next few YouGovs to see if it was a blip or a trend.
I must admit I'm with isam. Betting implications of the crossover bets aside, we do run the risk of overanalysing statistical noise.
My thoughts entirely...
I owe you £50, or will do in 48 hrs
Fool that I am, I managed to lay it off at 11/4 but got too involved at 10s, so will do dough grrrr
25 years ago, most people either watched BBC or ITV, shopped at either Sainsburys or Tesco etc etc
Times have changed, people shop around more for everything, the internet means old brand loyalties are no longer relevant. Politics is the same. The two main parties get less votes than ever before, its been the trend for decades, as people either do not vote, or vote for smaller parties
I think that's a very perceptive comment. It may be only FPTP that's been keeping the old duopoly going, and as the big parties sink to the lower 30s it becomes more plausible for newcomers like UKIP to claim they're in it with a decent chance.
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
Awkward - "Britain will "leave the crisis behind" this year and cement its position as the fastest-growing, large, advanced economy, according to the International Monetary Fund. "
Very convenient timing for Labour to take over next year it seems, they can ease off austerity as people will probably start feeling the recovery a bit more by then as well. Ed M continues to be a lucky man, despite polling difficulties.
Are people mucking about a bit when they bang on about the daily yougov as if every small change means something?
It's train-spotting for politics nerds.
I am a political nerd, but this passes me by
Some of us had money on the YouGov.
When the polls break away from the status quo it becomes interesting.
Take last year, after the Syria vote the Lab lead jumped from 4 to 10. I was accused of being obsessed when I spent the next few days analysing the next few YouGovs to see if it was a blip or a trend.
I must admit I'm with isam. Betting implications of the crossover bets aside, we do run the risk of overanalysing statistical noise.
I know. But given the recent polling has led to some very public speculation about Ed's leadership, it is more a means to and end.
It's a no win scenario. Cover these polls you get criticised. Don't cover these polls, same thing.
@kle4 Most of our increases are in the "service industry", It is the same position we were in before the last crash, and why Britain was so badly affected. Ed will only be lucky as long as the world doesn't tip into another recession.
Believe it or not, I have no particular political axe to grind, but, if we do get hit by the Norovirus and flu, plus the potential of the Ebola and it's variants, then the NHS/Private Health systems will collapse.
Our armed services ultimately may have to be called in, to back up the police and emergency services. We have a potential major problem. I really do not think we have the resources available to cope.
Eurozone looking far from clever, and not just in basket cases like Greece.
IMF telling EU to get going with some QE, but Germans have always (very sensibly IMO) said no, but growth revised down in France and Germany. This could certainly hamper UK's growth in the next year or so.
@kle4 Most of our increases are in the "service industry", It is the same position we were in before the last crash, and why Britain was so badly affected. Ed will only be lucky as long as the world doesn't tip into another recession.
Well, the public wouldn't stomach the sorts of systemic changes required to actually sort things out if the little I can glean from economic commentators is correct, so they'll have to be happy with blissful ignorance until the next catastrophe I guess
@kle4 Most of our increases are in the "service industry", It is the same position we were in before the last crash, and why Britain was so badly affected. Ed will only be lucky as long as the world doesn't tip into another recession.
There's plenty of things wrong with our economy, but growth coming from service sectors is not one of them. Every developed nation in the world is predominantly service sectors. The layman's romanticism of manufacturing over services is not based on any actual merit.
Well I wouldn't expect an unreconstructed socialist neanderthal like yourself to understand phrases like the 'objectification of women' but Mrs Danczuk is seriously letting the sisterhood down particularly when the party has been making an issue out of it.
Street-Porter said she felt "ashamed" that Danczuk believed she could be a role model to girls in Rochdale as well as "getting your assets out on a Friday night and posting a picture"
Ed also said that he didn’t want his sons growing up in a country where they are given the ‘perception’ that women and girls are sex objects.
The objectification of women on Page 3 reinforces this false perception of what it is to be female, daily.
Finally, he called Page 3 ‘a total anachronism’ that doesn’t have a place in the modern world. We wish we could argue that it has never had a place, but unfortunately, the 70s was a very sexist era.
Personally I don't give a toss but I'm sure there will be some unhappy campers in the red camp
She appears to have taken photos of herself wearing clothes. What's your point?
Loads of women wear low cut dresses and sometimes tweet selfies when they are going out, my friends do. So what? You are just being mean spirited - as is Porter, as usual. Good to have more normal women in politics like Dansuck
Loads of women aren't Labour councillors and loads of women don't I assume post numerous almost identical provocative poses online
I have not been mean spirited about it at all. I've been very careful not to be. I haven't said one mean thing about her. I've just highlighted that it is in stark contrast with the official attitude of her party which is clearly opposed to such behaviour, There are those in her party who believe such behaviour is not the role model that Labour Party representatives should aspire to (particularly in an area so damaged by scandal).
That you have so quickly gone into denial over it demonstrates to me how sensitive a matter it it is and clearly it must be otherwise the Torygraph would not have given it the once over.
"And the notably mammacious co-ed mistress has unnervingly odd nipples."
As any fashion photographer would know they needed attention but Fincher was obviously too polite to deal with the problem which stood out like a sore thumb -or didn't in this case. The first shot of him having sex with Pike from behind her head was brilliant and original though so the untreated nipples were forgiven
25 years ago, most people either watched BBC or ITV, shopped at either Sainsburys or Tesco etc etc
Times have changed, people shop around more for everything, the internet means old brand loyalties are no longer relevant. Politics is the same. The two main parties get less votes than ever before, its been the trend for decades, as people either do not vote, or vote for smaller parties
I think that's a very perceptive comment. It may be only FPTP that's been keeping the old duopoly going, and as the big parties sink to the lower 30s it becomes more plausible for newcomers like UKIP to claim they're in it with a decent chance.
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
That's age for you, innit.
Thanks Nick, but I cant take the praise.. Although I obviously agree, I got the idea from a telegraph blog from about a month ago, exactly when I cant remember, so cant link to it unfortunately.. seems true enough though
What struck me more than anything else was some thing inspired by a row on here with Hugh and Neil about Morrisseys line
"I've been dreaming of a time when the English are sick to death of Labour, and Tory"
I said his dream was coming true, they said I was talking nonsense...
But it is true
The last 3 elections, only 42% of the voting age population voted for the big two.. in the 60s and 70s it was 70%
Cameron is PM and only 23% of the population voted for him
The recent string of polls do seem to have delivered a bit of a sea change, tories or labour ahead? Its showing something of a move to the blues though. the actual level may be uncertain withing the MOE, but there has been a move. Its significant and from the tories point of view it needed to happen. No doubt after Clacton it may change, but frankly, is Carswell really a kipper? Or is he something of a loose cannon Carswellite? Clacton may undo all the recent good work but how long will the effect last. Since he is not a tory the tories need not handle Carswell's interventions with kid gloves any more. You can only defect once.
Believe it or not, I have no particular political axe to grind, but, if we do get hit by the Norovirus and flu, plus the potential of the Ebola and it's variants, then the NHS/Private Health systems will collapse.
Our armed services ultimately may have to be called in, to back up the police and emergency services. We have a potential major problem. I really do not think we have the resources available to cope.
Believe it or not, I have no particular political axe to grind, but, if we do get hit by the Norovirus and flu, plus the potential of the Ebola and it's variants, then the NHS/Private Health systems will collapse.
Our armed services ultimately may have to be called in, to back up the police and emergency services. We have a potential major problem. I really do not think we have the resources available to cope.
Like Spain you mean? We do have the resources although to be honest if we are faced with an attack of mass hysteria on the level of yours then we may struggle.
25 years ago, most people either watched BBC or ITV, shopped at either Sainsburys or Tesco etc etc
Times have changed, people shop around more for everything, the internet means old brand loyalties are no longer relevant. Politics is the same. The two main parties get less votes than ever before, its been the trend for decades, as people either do not vote, or vote for smaller parties
I think that's a very perceptive comment. It may be only FPTP that's been keeping the old duopoly going, and as the big parties sink to the lower 30s it becomes more plausible for newcomers like UKIP to claim they're in it with a decent chance.
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
That's age for you, innit.
Thanks Nick, but I cant take the praise.. Although I obviously agree, I got the idea from a telegraph blog from about a month ago, exactly when I cant remember, so cant link to it unfortunately.. seems true enough though
Eurozone looking far from clever, and not just in basket cases like Greece.
IMF telling EU to get going with some QE, but Germans have always (very sensibly IMO) said no, but growth revised down in France and Germany. This could certainly hamper UK's growth in the next year or so.
QE doesn't work, for reason I have explained it doesn't increase inflation or economic growth, perhaps I will give my essay to Morris Dancer if he wants to publish it for everyone to know more.
Given we've seen plenty of Tory panic over the past few years but far less panic from Labour, I'd hope we would see a bit more, but polling aside, the by-elections will probably put that to bed for awhile unfortunately.
The recent string of polls do seem to have delivered a bit of a sea change, tories or labour ahead? Its showing something of a move to the blues though. the actual level may be uncertain withing the MOE, but there has been a move. Its significant and from the tories point of view it needed to happen. No doubt after Clacton it may change, but frankly, is Carswell really a kipper? Or is he something of a loose cannon Carswellite? Clacton may undo all the recent good work but how long will the effect last. Since he is not a tory the tories need not handle Carswell's interventions with kid gloves any more. You can only defect once.
And so it begins.. UKIP win a by election...
But he is not REALLY a kipper!
You've stolen Friday Mornings Headline from Mike and TSE!!
NP Increasingly rightwingers may move to UKIP, leftwingers to the Greens, much as higher end shoppers are moving to Waitrose and those seeking cheaper deals to Aldi and Lidl, and Sky, the endless cable and satellite channels, netflix, lovefilm etc challenging ITV and BBC. Politics will reflect greater choice as much as most other areas of life, we need at least 5 significant parties, even if Labour and the Tories still have the largest market share
Well I wouldn't expect an unreconstructed socialist neanderthal like yourself to understand phrases like the 'objectification of women' but Mrs Danczuk is seriously letting the sisterhood down particularly when the party has been making an issue out of it.
Street-Porter said she felt "ashamed" that Danczuk believed she could be a role model to girls in Rochdale as well as "getting your assets out on a Friday night and posting a picture"
Ed also said that he didn’t want his sons growing up in a country where they are given the ‘perception’ that women and girls are sex objects.
The objectification of women on Page 3 reinforces this false perception of what it is to be female, daily.
Finally, he called Page 3 ‘a total anachronism’ that doesn’t have a place in the modern world. We wish we could argue that it has never had a place, but unfortunately, the 70s was a very sexist era.
Personally I don't give a toss but I'm sure there will be some unhappy campers in the red camp
She appears to have taken photos of herself wearing clothes. What's your point?
Well if you are going to be that obtuse about it, I'm not sure I can be bothered because its your party's political crassness she is crapping all over.
Suffice to say sexual objectification doesn't differentiate on the basis of who is the originator nor is it predicated necessarily on whether someone is naked or not.
Loads of women wear low cut dresses and sometimes tweet selfies when they are going out, my friends do. So what? You are just being mean spirited - as is Porter, as usual. Good to have more normal women in politics like Dansuck
Bobajob- Most of the time I would back you up.However, both Danczuks are rancid. We could do with them both out of the Labour Party. I know from friends who live near their locality they are nothing but trouble for the party and nothing will get in their way of their own personal,political and financial benefits. Not even their own family. As one member of the H&M Party described them, they are political thrush.
25 years ago, most people either watched BBC or ITV, shopped at either Sainsburys or Tesco etc etc
Times have changed, people shop around more for everything, the internet means old brand loyalties are no longer relevant. Politics is the same. The two main parties get less votes than ever before, its been the trend for decades, as people either do not vote, or vote for smaller parties
I think that's a very perceptive comment. It may be only FPTP that's been keeping the old duopoly going, and as the big parties sink to the lower 30s it becomes more plausible for newcomers like UKIP to claim they're in it with a decent chance.
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
That's age for you, innit.
Thanks Nick, but I cant take the praise.. Although I obviously agree, I got the idea from a telegraph blog from about a month ago, exactly when I cant remember, so cant link to it unfortunately.. seems true enough though
Cheeky
Here it is
"Today, anyone with an internet connection can, in a few seconds, buy just about anything in the world and have it delivered to their door in days. They can watch TV and movies from almost any country, read the news from tens of thousands of outlets. They can choose.
And given choices, people tend to use them. We have all become promiscuous in our shopping, eating and viewing habits. Marketing experts used to find it fairly easy to divide people according to their preferred supermarket. But now, Waitrose people shop in Lidl, too. Brand loyalty is history and even giants such as Tesco struggle to keep up with consumers spoilt for choice. And just try explaining to the YouTube generation that not too long ago, televisions had only three channels.
Voters shop around too. In 1951, Labour and the Conservatives took 96 per cent of all votes. In 2010 it was 65 per cent. Barely 20 per cent of under-25s say they identify with a political party. Ipsos Mori this week forecast that within a decade, fewer than a quarter of all voters will feel a connection with any one political party. The electorate is more volatile, less reliable. As many as one in five people who voted for the Scottish National Party in parliamentary elections last week voted No to the party’s existential aim of Scottish independence."
Ok, so the Norovirus has been identified 10 weeks prior to last year, the Flu virus has been particularly virulent in the southern hemisphere, an indication of it's attack in the northern during winter (why all the ad's to get your injections (and nasal sprays for the kiddies) Do It Now People!).
Plus Ebola and it's variants on the loose. Have your own nightmares on that.
If the winter is cold, with the atomic and coal powered stations off line - and, please, do not give me the s**t about wind power, during the last freeze a couple of years ago, there was no wind, - then the Conservative/LibDem members will be filling their places of worship and wearing out their knee pads praying for deliverance.
Norovirus: I caught a mild variant 2 years ago. Out of action for 2 weeks and lost 2 stone in weight. As a weight loss treatment, not recommended.
Well remember swine flu? I think I had it a few years ago, it was very nasty but I survived, after it I didn't even had a cold for 2 years. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger is correct I believe in some diseases.
25 years ago, most people either watched BBC or ITV, shopped at either Sainsburys or Tesco etc etc
Times have changed, people shop around more for everything, the internet means old brand loyalties are no longer relevant. Politics is the same. The two main parties get less votes than ever before, its been the trend for decades, as people either do not vote, or vote for smaller parties
I think that's a very perceptive comment. It may be only FPTP that's been keeping the old duopoly going, and as the big parties sink to the lower 30s it becomes more plausible for newcomers like UKIP to claim they're in it with a decent chance.
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
That's age for you, innit.
Thanks Nick, but I cant take the praise.. Although I obviously agree, I got the idea from a telegraph blog from about a month ago, exactly when I cant remember, so cant link to it unfortunately.. seems true enough though
It's not a stealth tax, you are paying nothing extra in servicing government debt, it doesn't increase prices outside financial speculation and certain specific of goods. QE is paying the government bills with imaginary freshly created money (aka. the magic money tree as Tories say)
Well I wouldn't expect an unreconstructed socialist neanderthal like yourself to understand phrases like the 'objectification of women' but Mrs Danczuk is seriously letting the sisterhood down particularly when the party has been making an issue out of it.
Street-Porter said she felt "ashamed" that Danczuk believed she could be a role model to girls in Rochdale as well as "getting your assets out on a Friday night and posting a picture"
Ed also said that he didn’t want his sons growing up in a country where they are given the ‘perception’ that women and girls are sex objects.
The objectification of women on Page 3 reinforces this false perception of what it is to be female, daily.
Finally, he called Page 3 ‘a total anachronism’ that doesn’t have a place in the modern world. We wish we could argue that it has never had a place, but unfortunately, the 70s was a very sexist era.
Personally I don't give a toss but I'm sure there will be some unhappy campers in the red camp
She appears to have taken photos of herself wearing clothes. What's your point?
Well if you are going to be that obtuse about it, I'm not sure I can be bothered because its your party's political crassness she is crapping all over.
Suffice to say sexual objectification doesn't differentiate on the basis of who is the originator nor is it predicated necessarily on whether someone is naked or not.
Of course from a political perspective given the nearby by-election in Heywood, the type of issues involved and the wider criticism of the Labour party over those issues it's not smart for this to come out (presumably such a flare up will make the local papers).
More importantly if I was to make a serious observation it is that I think she's daft to do it because you never know what sort of idiot weirdos are hanging about on Twitter and other social media sites! She could attract unwanted attention and I don't mean just from Janet Street-Porter,.......
As far as I can see from the image she posted a picture that consisted entirely of her cleavage and her groin (in what were called in my day hot pants). With her head cropped. It seems to be a regular habit and hardly suggests she has any brains. She is a labour councellor so ni surprise I suppose. Did she learn her trade in the Mrs Bercow charm school?
@Speedy As you print money, you reduce the value of the currency ( a bit like nibbling bits off a gold coin), so everyone gets slightly poorer. The banks then take this "money" and hand it on too the "needy" . ISAFUCKINCON.
NP Increasingly rightwingers may move to UKIP, leftwingers to the Greens, much as higher end shoppers are moving to Waitrose and those seeking cheaper deals to Aldi and Lidl, and Sky, the endless cable and satellite channels, netflix, lovefilm etc challenging ITV and BBC. Politics will reflect greater choice as much as most other areas of life, we need at least 5 significant parties, even if Labour and the Tories still have the largest market share
If you buy a can of cheap baked beans it does not end in you being shafted for taxes and being subject to policies approved by trade unions. Comparing political parties to supermarkets is stupid. Well I suppose voting UKIP couldf be likened to buying a can of worms.
Speedy - but the pound dropped 40% against the Canadian dollar - Canada did not QE.
Canada has a giant oil boom that is pushing the value of its currency, also a lower currency value is also a bonus for manufacturing in a globalized economy.
NP Increasingly rightwingers may move to UKIP, leftwingers to the Greens, much as higher end shoppers are moving to Waitrose and those seeking cheaper deals to Aldi and Lidl, and Sky, the endless cable and satellite channels, netflix, lovefilm etc challenging ITV and BBC. Politics will reflect greater choice as much as most other areas of life, we need at least 5 significant parties, even if Labour and the Tories still have the largest market share
If you buy a can of cheap baked beans it does not end in you being shafted for taxes and being subject to policies approved by trade unions. Comparing political parties to supermarkets is stupid. Well I suppose voting UKIP couldf be likened to buying a can of worms.
Well not yet it doesn't but if this lot of Tory MP's led by Kwasi (or is that Krazy) Kwarteng get their way one day we might have to:
Raise VAT on childrens' clothes and food say Tory MPs
SeanT/AndyJS Indeed, it explored the detached relationship between the 2 well and the absurd TV hosts whipping up the emotions of their viewers, it may not have been ZULU and was over the top, but it kept me intrigued throughout its 2 and a half hour running time
@Speedy As you print money, you reduce the value of the currency ( a bit like nibbling bits off a gold coin), so everyone gets slightly poorer. The banks then take this "money" and hand it on too the "needy" . ISAFUCKINCON.
The whole concept of QE is that because of low inflation and high unemployment interest rates have to fall even if things go better, if they reach 0% there is still the thinking that the only way is QE. The idea that imaginary money printing is going to increase demand and prices is monetarist of course but in practice it doesn't work in a world of free trade and no capital controls, the only thing that it achieves that is positive on the economy is that it reduces the value of the currency thus increasing competitiveness but the devaluation is too small to have much of an effect.
Believe me I know all the tricks about QE for years.
@Speedy As you print money, you reduce the value of the currency ( a bit like nibbling bits off a gold coin), so everyone gets slightly poorer. The banks then take this "money" and hand it on too the "needy" . ISAFUCKINCON.
This isn't how it works at all. Everyone holding currency gets slightly poorer, but those with high income to assets ratios (i.e. the poor) do relatively well out of it.
Oil is hovering at around 100$ a barrel since then and production in Canada and the US is up, so the oil money is much greater. That is how the US economy can handle a huge trade deficit without crashing like in 2008, they can use the oil money to cover the bill for imported goods like the Saudis do.
@Speedy I have seen most of the "tricks" myself. It's why I keep saying that a lot of this "recovery" is smoke and mirrors. Our economy is much the same now as it was before the last crash.
SipSmiths do a sloe gin. I bought my mother home and give little gifts of SipSmiths, or English champagne and chocolate to the carers, whenever they need cheering up. Chocolate makes them dance around the room. So I might try the sloe gin on one of them.
Although I enjoy it, gin, it always made me feel a little bit icky after I mainlined it at an early tasting session. But not long ago I was watching a Channel 4 food programme (copyright) that stated that all that gin was was juniper flavoured vodka!! So that put me off a little bit more.
(edited - I added a word, not a letter - try and guess which one latecomers!!!)
(edit 2 - I Took Out a letter that time - no competition this time)
@Speedy I have seen most of the "tricks" myself. It's why I keep saying that a lot of this "recovery" is smoke and mirrors. Our economy is much the same now as it was before the last crash.
The debt and deficit is worse, but Osborne is the guy responsible for government spending. But the economy is better, oil and gas production is down which is a good thing because lower oil revenues means a lower currency value which leads to more manufacturing production and less imports of goods. Housing is also better, there is no housing bubble apart from London, so when that bubble pops it will hit only London.
This conversation over QE has led me to think why oh why is Britain in the EU and not NAFTA?
With the US and Canada having an amazing oil boom they are suffering from dutch disease, their manufacturing sector is going to suffer immensely and Britain could have reaped the rewards of an overvalued american and canadian dollar to capture market share. British industry and tech companies would have a field day with the splurging american consumer flush with oil money.
My god, the leaking, off the record briefings and half truths both from those on Kevin Pietersen's side and against him is starting to make politics look squeaky clean.
After a day of KP (and his mate Piers Morgan..who needs the likes of Swann as enemies when you have him supposedly fighting for you) making all sorts of claims, many of which he doesn't seem to be able to back up, now somebody has accidentally fat fingered an ECB dossier to a journalist at CricInfo.
PAW Get a reasonable bottle of vodka (have a glass to taste it) then put slivers of lemon or lime into the bottle and recap it till summer. Or juniper berries?
@Speedy We were far to busy flogging our assets off to India and China?
It was a great success for businesses, not for workers, and if workers can't have a job then how can they spend to buy the products from their former factories? That's where consumer lending came in to fill the gap, but it can't go on forever before the banks have trouble with the unpaid loans as shown in the last crash.
A little bit of mercantilism is always nice, I think we should have free trade with countries that are less competitive than us (like America) for a change, not more competitive (Germany, China ect).
@Speedy It is academic who you trade with, as you can pretty much be assured that no one on gods earth knows who owns what, or owes who. It is the miracle of advanced capitalism, you make money by shuffling it around.
@Speedy It is academic who you trade with, as you can pretty much be assured that no one on gods earth knows who owns what, or owes who. It is the miracle of advanced capitalism, you make money by shuffling it around.
That's how you make money in the financial sector, by taking a cut from the huge volume of money flowing though, even if the money doesn't actually exist you can still grab it and spend it.
Smarmeron, one of carers has found what may be a wild plum in the garden, and has persuaded others to try them with no obvious bad effects - I might try it tomorrow, perhaps with sugar.
Or now I think of it make some taffy and try for butterscotch gin - set a new trend for sweet gins?
PAW - eat your plum, drink your gin, and if you're trying to wind up Smarmy, let me tell you that in my opinion he's classed as what's known as a "live one"
JBriskin - I am quite serious, I am very relaxed looking at Google analytics to see who is interested in some beta software I have put up on the web. People are signing up regularly.
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When the polls break away from the status quo it becomes interesting.
Take last year, after the Syria vote the Lab lead jumped from 4 to 10. I was accused of being obsessed when I spent the next few days analysing the next few YouGovs to see if it was a blip or a trend.
Good to have more normal women in politics like Dansuck
Laughable stuff from Cameron.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/syrian-kurds-isis-militants-kobani
I owe you £50, or will do in 48 hrs
Fool that I am, I managed to lay it off at 11/4 but got too involved at 10s, so will do dough grrrr
"....and cement its position as the fastest-growing, large, advanced economy.."
We are on course to surpass China?
I will say that personally I STILL invariably shop at Sainsbury or Tesco (indeed I live on top of a branch of Sainsbury Local) and only watch the BBC or occasionally ITV (on iplayer). Lidl's boring, small shops are too time-consuming, Sky is full of annoying adverts, the cable channels are too numerous and flaky to bother with.
That's age for you, innit.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/syrian-kurds-isis-militants-kobani
EICIPM 7 Months today!!
For Plato's reference
It's a no win scenario. Cover these polls you get criticised. Don't cover these polls, same thing.
Most of our increases are in the "service industry", It is the same position we were in before the last crash, and why Britain was so badly affected.
Ed will only be lucky as long as the world doesn't tip into another recession.
Our armed services ultimately may have to be called in, to back up the police and emergency services. We have a potential major problem. I really do not think we have the resources available to cope.
IMF telling EU to get going with some QE, but Germans have always (very sensibly IMO) said no, but growth revised down in France and Germany. This could certainly hamper UK's growth in the next year or so.
Norovirus and the flu might lay Dave low by May, but Ebola is not liable to become a problem unless someone "weaponizes" it.
I have not been mean spirited about it at all. I've been very careful not to be. I haven't said one mean thing about her. I've just highlighted that it is in stark contrast with the
official attitude of her party which is clearly opposed to such behaviour, There are those in her party who believe such behaviour is not the role model that Labour Party representatives should aspire to (particularly in an area so damaged by scandal).
That you have so quickly gone into denial over it demonstrates to me how sensitive a matter it it is and clearly it must be otherwise the Torygraph would not have given it the once over.
"And the notably mammacious co-ed mistress has unnervingly odd nipples."
As any fashion photographer would know they needed attention but Fincher was obviously too polite to deal with the problem which stood out like a sore thumb -or didn't in this case. The first shot of him having sex with Pike from behind her head was brilliant and original though so the untreated nipples were forgiven
At the moment Dave's main idea is to turn the poor into peasants, so copying the Chinese on tax matters should be easy for him.
What struck me more than anything else was some thing inspired by a row on here with Hugh and Neil about Morrisseys line
"I've been dreaming of a time when the English are sick to death of Labour, and Tory"
I said his dream was coming true, they said I was talking nonsense...
But it is true
The last 3 elections, only 42% of the voting age population voted for the big two.. in the 60s and 70s it was 70%
Cameron is PM and only 23% of the population voted for him
No doubt after Clacton it may change, but frankly, is Carswell really a kipper? Or is he something of a loose cannon Carswellite? Clacton may undo all the recent good work but how long will the effect last. Since he is not a tory the tories need not handle Carswell's interventions with kid gloves any more. You can only defect once.
But you're worried about Noravirus and flu????
We do have the resources although to be honest if we are faced with an attack of mass hysteria on the level of yours then we may struggle.
Night all.
But he is not REALLY a kipper!
You've stolen Friday Mornings Headline from Mike and TSE!!
Bizarre film. My second favourite of the year so far, after Under The Skin.
Nice to see a film poking fun at herd behaviour, silly TV presenters, and extreme feminism.
QE is just another stealth tax.
"Today, anyone with an internet connection can, in a few seconds, buy just about anything in the world and have it delivered to their door in days. They can watch TV and movies from almost any country, read the news from tens of thousands of outlets. They can choose.
And given choices, people tend to use them. We have all become promiscuous in our shopping, eating and viewing habits. Marketing experts used to find it fairly easy to divide people according to their preferred supermarket. But now, Waitrose people shop in Lidl, too. Brand loyalty is history and even giants such as Tesco struggle to keep up with consumers spoilt for choice. And just try explaining to the YouTube generation that not too long ago, televisions had only three channels.
Voters shop around too. In 1951, Labour and the Conservatives took 96 per cent of all votes. In 2010 it was 65 per cent. Barely 20 per cent of under-25s say they identify with a political party. Ipsos Mori this week forecast that within a decade, fewer than a quarter of all voters will feel a connection with any one political party. The electorate is more volatile, less reliable. As many as one in five people who voted for the Scottish National Party in parliamentary elections last week voted No to the party’s existential aim of Scottish independence."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11118860/Voters-are-going-to-shop-around-from-now-on.html
I think I had it a few years ago, it was very nasty but I survived, after it I didn't even had a cold for 2 years. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger is correct I believe in some diseases.
Thanks though.
I'm going to have to read it now aren't I.
Bloody telegraph writers...
QE is paying the government bills with imaginary freshly created money (aka. the magic money tree as Tories say)
It seems to be a regular habit and hardly suggests she has any brains. She is a labour councellor so ni surprise I suppose. Did she learn her trade in the Mrs Bercow charm school?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosamund_Pike
As you print money, you reduce the value of the currency ( a bit like nibbling bits off a gold coin), so everyone gets slightly poorer.
The banks then take this "money" and hand it on too the "needy" .
ISAFUCKINCON.
Comparing political parties to supermarkets is stupid. Well I suppose voting UKIP couldf be likened to buying a can of worms.
Since you have the bottle, you should be telling us how good it is?
Raise VAT on childrens' clothes and food say Tory MPs
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/11/19/raise-vat-on-childrens-clothes-and-food-say-tory-mps
PS Apparently the EU favour such a move as well as part of their Tax Harmonisation efforts.....
The idea that imaginary money printing is going to increase demand and prices is monetarist of course but in practice it doesn't work in a world of free trade and no capital controls, the only thing that it achieves that is positive on the economy is that it reduces the value of the currency thus increasing competitiveness but the devaluation is too small to have much of an effect.
Believe me I know all the tricks about QE for years.
I'm sure it will be fine PAW - it's gin - what could go wrong.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/06/gone-girl-rape-domestic-violence-ben-affleck
That is how the US economy can handle a huge trade deficit without crashing like in 2008, they can use the oil money to cover the bill for imported goods like the Saudis do.
I have seen most of the "tricks" myself.
It's why I keep saying that a lot of this "recovery" is smoke and mirrors.
Our economy is much the same now as it was before the last crash.
(edited - I added a word, not a letter - try and guess which one latecomers!!!)
(edit 2 - I Took Out a letter that time - no competition this time)
But the economy is better, oil and gas production is down which is a good thing because lower oil revenues means a lower currency value which leads to more manufacturing production and less imports of goods. Housing is also better, there is no housing bubble apart from London, so when that bubble pops it will hit only London.
With the US and Canada having an amazing oil boom they are suffering from dutch disease, their manufacturing sector is going to suffer immensely and Britain could have reaped the rewards of an overvalued american and canadian dollar to capture market share.
British industry and tech companies would have a field day with the splurging american consumer flush with oil money.
After a day of KP (and his mate Piers Morgan..who needs the likes of Swann as enemies when you have him supposedly fighting for you) making all sorts of claims, many of which he doesn't seem to be able to back up, now somebody has accidentally fat fingered an ECB dossier to a journalist at CricInfo.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29531187
We were far to busy flogging our assets off to India and China?
Get a reasonable bottle of vodka (have a glass to taste it) then put slivers of lemon or lime into the bottle and recap it till summer.
Or juniper berries?
twitter.com/CllrAbhiSach/status/519602792504111104
"Delighted to welcome Oliver Dowden as Hertsmere Parliamentary Candidate (ex-Deputy Chief of Staff for Prime Minister)"
That's where consumer lending came in to fill the gap, but it can't go on forever before the banks have trouble with the unpaid loans as shown in the last crash.
A little bit of mercantilism is always nice, I think we should have free trade with countries that are less competitive than us (like America) for a change, not more competitive (Germany, China ect).
At my age, it is better to enjoy small amounts of quality alchohol than large quantities of paraffin. ;-)
It is academic who you trade with, as you can pretty much be assured that no one on gods earth knows who owns what, or owes who.
It is the miracle of advanced capitalism, you make money by shuffling it around.
Goodnight for now.
" even if the money doesn't actually exist you can still grab it and spend it."
Yes, capitalism's magic money tree, you can make and spend imaginary money, until someone notices.
Or now I think of it make some taffy and try for butterscotch gin - set a new trend for sweet gins?
Get creative? You might even be able to sell the recipe....once you have sobered up enough to remember what it was? ;-)
http://www.ukipsoutheast.com/ukip-south-east/oxfordshire-ppc-candidates-first-in-south-east
Last time it was Nikolai Tolstoy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/constituency/f22.stm
PAW - eat your plum, drink your gin, and if you're trying to wind up Smarmy, let me tell you that in my opinion he's classed as what's known as a "live one"
lathyrus lineofolius in malt whisky with honey is my attempt.