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Llandaff North on Cardiff (Labour Defence)
Result of last election to council (2012): Labour 46, Liberal Democrats 16, Conservatives 7, Indepdendents 4, Plaid Cymru 2 (Labour overall majority of 17)

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  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    First
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Cheers for this, Mr. Hayfield.

    Just about everyone's got a seat to defend, it seems.
  • "This is a Local Election for local people! There's nothing for you here!"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p006vm6j
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,970
    edited October 2014
    Chestnut

    "I personally know a couple.

    A retired bus driver and his kitchen assistant wife who bought a property many years ago, the 1960s.......they'll pay £600,000 in IHT".....

    Holland run a very effective wealth tax. As things stand the rich just keep getting richer whether they do something or nothing. The poor by contrast fill the soup kitchens and their children will have no future. This is a very real issue that should be addressed. We cannot keep burying our head in the sand.

    OT but related. I went to visit the Villa Messina in a relatively smart part of Nice and on both sides of the street were young girls sitting on the pavement each with a child filthy and without shoes begging. That evening I read about a penthouse flat that had just sold in Monaco for $250 million. If there ever is a day of judgement we aren't going to be judged kindly.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Two LD holds likely? The rot has been stopped!

    I kid, I know they have actually done better in many of these locals than national results would predict.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Roger, to be fair, those are two different countries. (France, of course, has no grand prix).
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited October 2014
    Roger said:

    "I personally know a couple.

    A retired bus driver and his kitchen assistant wife who bought a property many years ago, the 1960s.......they'll pay £600,000 in IHT".....

    Holland run a very effective wealth tax. As things stand the rich just keep getting richer whether they do something or nothing. The poor by contrast fill the soup kitchens and their children will have no future. This is a very real issue that should be addressed. We cannot keep burying our head in the sand.

    OT but related. I went to visit the Palace de Messina in a relatively smart part of Nice and on both sides of the street were young girls sitting on the pavement each with a child filthy and without shoes begging. That evening I read about a penthouse flat that had just sold in Monaco for $250 million. If there ever is a day of judgement we aren't going to be judged kindly.


    Roger, where are these soup kitchens?

    Sometimes it's hard not to laugh at the hypocrisy in your posts - swanning around Nice, lunching with poodles and enjoying the delights of your second home whilst bemoaning the unfortunate lives of the poverty stricken.

    You're one of the rich (just not as wealthy as those further up the food chain). Sell up, and donate the money to a homeless charity.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Now muslims try to bastardise UK flag with Palestinian colours- so fed up with muslims trying to destroy our culture pic.twitter.com/eX9U7CVZGl

    — David Jones (@DavidJo52951945) October 2, 2014

    When will Britain wake up?
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    One has low taxes, the other has Millipede´s hero as president.
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    Roger said:

    Chestnut

    "I personally know a couple.

    A retired bus driver and his kitchen assistant wife who bought a property many years ago, the 1960s.......they'll pay £600,000 in IHT".....

    Holland run a very effective wealth tax. As things stand the rich just keep getting richer whether they do something or nothing. The poor by contrast fill the soup kitchens and their children will have no future. This is a very real issue that should be addressed. We cannot keep burying our head in the sand.

    OT but related. I went to visit the Villa Messina in a relatively smart part of Nice and on both sides of the street were young girls sitting on the pavement each with a child filthy and without shoes begging. That evening I read about a penthouse flat that had just sold in Monaco for $250 million. If there ever is a day of judgement we aren't going to be judged kindly.

    What did you do about it?
  • Itajai said:

    One has low taxes, the other has Millipede´s hero as president.

    Hmmmm....now why doesn't everybody in France just move to Monaco?!
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    MikeK said:

    Now muslims try to bastardise UK flag with Palestinian colours- so fed up with muslims trying to destroy our culture pic.twitter.com/eX9U7CVZGl

    — David Jones (@DavidJo52951945) October 2, 2014

    When will Britain wake up?

    Not while the political and media elite continue to dhimmify.
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721

    Itajai said:

    One has low taxes, the other has Millipede´s hero as president.

    Hmmmm....now why doesn't everybody in France just move to Monaco?!
    They decided to vote in someone who promised higher taxes. For the "rich".

    Then they realised:
    -it didn´t work
    -Hollande´s definition of "rich" was not what the army of envy though it would be

    For what it´s worth, I much prefer France!
  • BannedInParisBannedInParis Posts: 2,191
    edited October 2014
    Itajai said:

    Itajai said:

    One has low taxes, the other has Millipede´s hero as president.

    Hmmmm....now why doesn't everybody in France just move to Monaco?!
    They decided to vote in someone who promised higher taxes. For the "rich".

    Then they realised:
    -it didn´t work
    -Hollande´s definition of "rich" was not what the army of envy though it would be

    For what it´s worth, I much prefer France!
    It's alright.
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    edited October 2014
    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,534
    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    BTW there's a local by-election coming up in hilarious circumstances, next week. A UKIP councillor has resigned after having been found guilty of arson.

    He set fire to his wife's clothes during the course of an argument.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. F, was she wearing them at the time?
  • Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Taxes aren't that high in France for average earners; it's the social charges that are the killer...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204
  • Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204

    News perhaps, Morris, but no surprise. The Turks must be itching to go get the ba*tards.

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,816

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    I've lived in Nice. I'm shocked anyone could find it nicer than Monaco.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Punter, perhaps.

    I'm sure Mr. Y0kel can give us more (and more accurate) info, but haven't they been lax letting would-be jihadists get to ISIS? I also imagine many, many Turks are wary about starting a land war with a vicious and pretty successful regime.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited October 2014

    Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204

    News perhaps, Morris, but no surprise. The Turks must be itching to go get the ba*tards.

    Aren't they itching to have a go at the Syrians generally?
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    "Asbestos victims win damages ruling"
    Another Grayling failing?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29462702
  • Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204

    News perhaps, Morris, but no surprise. The Turks must be itching to go get the ba*tards.

    Aren't they itching to have a go at the Syrians generally?
    Yup.

    And the Greeks. Well, the ones living in the Seven Sisters Road, anyway.

  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


  • Mr. Punter, perhaps.

    I'm sure Mr. Y0kel can give us more (and more accurate) info, but haven't they been lax letting would-be jihadists get to ISIS? I also imagine many, many Turks are wary about starting a land war with a vicious and pretty successful regime.

    It was Mr Yokel that gave us the heads up the other evening.

    It is of course a very close and relevant threat to them. I think they would welcome the chance to sort a few bods out.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Llama, that's nanny state nonsense.

    I hardly ever drink (wouldn't quite describe myself as teetotal), and that's my choice. If someone offers me a drink and won't take no for an answer they'll get one with four rather than two letters. And if I choose to drink I bloody well will, and don't need the advice of the state on the matter.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Punter, are the 'bods' ISIS or the Kurds, or both?

    Situation could get messier yet.
  • MikeK said:

    Now muslims try to bastardise UK flag with Palestinian colours- so fed up with muslims trying to destroy our culture pic.twitter.com/eX9U7CVZGl

    — David Jones (@DavidJo52951945) October 2, 2014

    When will Britain wake up?

    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/most-pro-israel-country-in-world.html
  • Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    I've lived in Nice. I'm shocked anyone could find it nicer than Monaco.

    Depends what's important to you, Lucky.

    I like a bit of freedom in my life. Isn't it one copper for every forty civilians in Monaco? I was nearly arrested when last there - for jaywalking.

    Nice may be grubbier, but I'm more at ease there.

  • Mr. Punter, are the 'bods' ISIS or the Kurds, or both?

    Situation could get messier yet.

    In Syria, or the Seven Sisters Road?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Punter, what is this Seven Sisters Road to which you refer?
  • Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    I've lived in Nice. I'm shocked anyone could find it nicer than Monaco.

    Monaco is the fourth circle of euro trash hell. It exists as a warning.
    Nice is a charming Italian town under French occupation.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    White Dee says she will not now stand for parliament as MP's £67 k annual salary is too much of a pay cut from the £6,000 per night personal appearances she now makes
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/402763/White-Dee-says-MP-67k-salary-is-worthless
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    MikeK said:

    Now muslims try to bastardise UK flag with Palestinian colours- so fed up with muslims trying to destroy our culture pic.twitter.com/eX9U7CVZGl

    — David Jones (@DavidJo52951945) October 2, 2014

    When will Britain wake up?
    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/most-pro-israel-country-in-world.html

    I guess no one should be too surprised that the countries that like us the least are the countries of Western Europe. They'll be Muslim in another few years

    In only a few years?! Why didn't the census warn us this would happen?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    White Dee says she will not now stand for parliament as MP's £67 k annual salary is too much of a pay cut from the £6,000 per night personal appearances she now makes
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/402763/White-Dee-says-MP-67k-salary-is-worthless

    Why not do both jobs; many do...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. HYUFD, a sign of national decadence and collective madness that is.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,903

    Mr. Punter, what is this Seven Sisters Road to which you refer?

    MD, you need to get out more!

    (I always think of the Leyton Buzzards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDwMutJ-lM8)

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204

    News perhaps, Morris, but no surprise. The Turks must be itching to go get the ba*tards.

    One recent IS atrocity was destroying the Armenian holocaust memorial:

    http://www.armenianweekly.com/2014/09/21/der-zor/

    Allah Akbar!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    HYUFD said:

    White Dee says she will not now stand for parliament as MP's £67 k annual salary is too much of a pay cut from the £6,000 per night personal appearances she now makes
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/402763/White-Dee-says-MP-67k-salary-is-worthless

    Why not do both jobs; many do...
    'And the Benefits Street star now wants welfare spending cut so less of her six-figure earnings go to benefits claimants.'

    Perhaps she'd like to give back a little bit extra too?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


    If you take nalmefene you won't want any more than the first sip of the first drink...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. Omnium, too busy working hard. And also watching Scrubs with German subtitles.

    Never heard, or even heard of, that track.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    Fox Apparently she does 3 appearances a day
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    BTW there's a local by-election coming up in hilarious circumstances, next week. A UKIP councillor has resigned after having been found guilty of arson.

    He set fire to his wife's clothes during the course of an argument.

    But what's a man to do when the wife leaves behind the fridge in such a state?

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    MD Indeed, did you also know Joey Essex is worth £10 million, who needs talent and qualifications! Good luck to them, but not exactly making the best of our talents
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    TheWatcher Doubt it, she seems to have gone native and was even speaking at the Tory Conference, she has even said she may vote UKIP, a classic example of socialist to rightwinger as soon as gets some serious cash
  • Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


    The absurdity of this is it will just discourage people from going to see GPs until they are so ill they won't want to drink in any case. The problem being that the cost of addressing their illness could well be much larger than otherwise because of this piece of unwarranted authoritarianism
  • Omnium said:

    Mr. Punter, what is this Seven Sisters Road to which you refer?

    MD, you need to get out more!

    (I always think of the Leyton Buzzards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDwMutJ-lM8)

    I absolutely love that song, brings back memories of nights at the Tottenham Royal
  • Mr. Punter, what is this Seven Sisters Road to which you refer?

    Lol!

    It runs from Finsbury Park to Tottenham. I don't honestly know what it's like now but when I were a lad it was notable for the large Greek and Turkish populations living either side. Things sometimes got a bit tense between the two communities, especially at times like the Turkish invasion of Northern Cyprus, or when Panathinaikos played Galatasaray.

    Incidentally, it helped teach me about arbitrage. Arsenal's ground once stood close to the Finsbury Park End, and Tottenham's home at White Hart Lane can be found at the other. Many years ago the two teams met in the Cup. They were fairly closely matched at the time. (It was a very long time ago.) But if you went to a bookies at one end of the Seven Sisters Road you could get odds against Arsenal, and at the other end odds against Tottenham.

    It was a nice little earner, even after deducting the cost of the bus fare.

    Toodle pip. Must away.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    Fox Apparently she does 3 appearances a day

    That is more than Gordon Brown does in a year!

    I vaguely recall that she was on a form of disability benefit, so it is heartening the improvement in her health!
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,903

    Mr. Omnium, too busy working hard. And also watching Scrubs with German subtitles.

    Never heard, or even heard of, that track.

    Do the German subtitles fit on the screen - I imagine there are some pretty chunky words used in what I take is a medical drama. "Pass the Handtuchfurblutundgutsmitsenf please nurse" for "tissue please"?

    I looked at the Wikipedia article for SSR - somehow it's a bit more culturally important than it's made out to be - I think just the name is evocative.

  • Omnium said:

    Mr. Punter, what is this Seven Sisters Road to which you refer?

    MD, you need to get out more!

    (I always think of the Leyton Buzzards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDwMutJ-lM8)

    I absolutely love that song, brings back memories of nights at the Tottenham Royal
    Ah...The Dave Clark Five! What memories.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    I know that @Roger has agreed that he does prefer Cannes...

    http://www.youtube.com
    /watch?v=4e3jmtyLG8k

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    edited October 2014
    Fox Yes, cannot comment on her previous disability, but remarkable what a £6,000 appearance fee can do for your health!
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. HYUFD, well, quite. I must say, I don't begrudge them their fortunes, I only wish mine were larger.

    Mr. Punter, thanks for that interesting explanation. I wonder if the Greeks and Turks would get along better if Byzantium had never fallen...

    Mr. Omnium, they do paraphrase sometimes (my German's not great but I can sometimes spot when they use different terms). I wish more DVDs had German subtitles. Baffling that Game of Thrones has tons of languages aber nicht Deutsch. Schade.
  • Fat_SteveFat_Steve Posts: 361

    Mr. Punter, perhaps.

    I'm sure Mr. Y0kel can give us more (and more accurate) info, but haven't they been lax letting would-be jihadists get to ISIS? I also imagine many, many Turks are wary about starting a land war with a vicious and pretty successful regime.

    It was Mr Yokel that gave us the heads up the other evening.

    It is of course a very close and relevant threat to them. I think they would welcome the chance to sort a few bods out.

    Interesting development.
    Is the Turkish military highly rated? I sort of have feeling that it is, but that may be just an unconscious thing from having seen the film "Gallipoli".

  • dr_spyn said:

    I know that @Roger has agreed that he does prefer Cannes...

    http://www.youtube.com
    /watch?v=4e3jmtyLG8k

    Man of the people, our Roger.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3jmtyLG8k
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    HYUFD said:

    TheWatcher Doubt it, she seems to have gone native and was even speaking at the Tory Conference, she has even said she may vote UKIP, a classic example of socialist to rightwinger as soon as gets some serious cash

    I´d say more typical is the Millepede way. Get rich, sign up to tax avoidance schemes, then tell everyone how much more tax they should pay. Taxes you have exempted yourself from of course.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    edited October 2014
    MD Indeed, don't we all (though I suspect a few pb regulars run them close). I suppose if people are willing to spend their hard earned cash to watch them and pay to meet them it is not White Dee and Joey Essex who come out as the dunces!
  • Fat_Steve said:

    Mr. Punter, perhaps.

    I'm sure Mr. Y0kel can give us more (and more accurate) info, but haven't they been lax letting would-be jihadists get to ISIS? I also imagine many, many Turks are wary about starting a land war with a vicious and pretty successful regime.

    It was Mr Yokel that gave us the heads up the other evening.

    It is of course a very close and relevant threat to them. I think they would welcome the chance to sort a few bods out.

    Interesting development.
    Is the Turkish military highly rated? I sort of have feeling that it is, but that may be just an unconscious thing from having seen the film "Gallipoli".

    Don't know about their military, but their soccer fans can be a bit of a handful.

    Ok, I'm getting me coat.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    I suppose White Dee could have at least said she did not study PPE!
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,903
    MD - German's a great language in many ways. I suspect that there are many things that one can say that really sound best in German. Tank-driving holidays in France for example.

    Nigel4England - yeah it's terrible but somehow great.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,950
    Mr. HYUFD, well, quite.

    Mr. Omnium, I really liked German at school. Mentioned it before, but I used to play videogames in German sometimes. Sadly I think the last time I had that option was on the PS2.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    Itajai Do as I say, not as I do
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited October 2014
    If I had my way, I'd measure my alcohol blood levels in pints = and yes I mean that way round ;^ )

    And what on Earth is a mild alcoholic when they're about? It's like being a bit pregnant. I do hate this Nanny State malarkey. Still, minimum pricing never made it out of the starting gate, so at least that's one small mercy.

    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


    The absurdity of this is it will just discourage people from going to see GPs until they are so ill they won't want to drink in any case. The problem being that the cost of addressing their illness could well be much larger than otherwise because of this piece of unwarranted authoritarianism
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    A pod in Finland under the Northern Lights?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    I recommend Wolverhampton, your wife will certainly remember it.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    JFK's grandson gifts George HW Bush Profile in Courage Award at his home in Kennebunkport
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jfk-grandson-gifts-george-h-w-bush-profile-courage-award-article-1.1959429
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Plato said:

    If I had my way, I'd measure my alcohol blood levels in pints = and yes I mean that way round ;^ )

    And what on Earth is a mild alcoholic when they're about? It's like being a bit pregnant. I do hate this Nanny State malarkey. Still, minimum pricing never made it out of the starting gate, so at least that's one small mercy.

    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


    The absurdity of this is it will just discourage people from going to see GPs until they are so ill they won't want to drink in any case. The problem being that the cost of addressing their illness could well be much larger than otherwise because of this piece of unwarranted authoritarianism

    I think there is an old saying* in the navy like "if it moves shoot it, if it doesn't paint it."

    I think that governments have a simple mantra too: "if it makes money tax it, if it's enjoyable ban it".

    It doesn't seem to get more complicated than that.

    * waits to be corrected.

  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    edited October 2014

    Itajai said:

    One has low taxes, the other has Millipede´s hero as president.

    Hmmmm....now why doesn't everybody in France just move to Monaco?!
    French citizens are not exempt from French taxes if they live in Monaco, all part of an agreement between Monaco and France. Non French citizens are of course.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    I recommend Wolverhampton, your wife will certainly remember it.
    You are being very harsh of Wolverhampton. I always say to a friend of mine, if you set an atom bomb off in Wednesbury it would do £5's worth of damage. He comes from near there.
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    I've lived in Nice. I'm shocked anyone could find it nicer than Monaco.

    Monaco is the fourth circle of euro trash hell. It exists as a warning.
    Nice is a charming Italian town under French occupation.

    Nice - too many Russian hookers.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    A pod in Finland under the Northern Lights?
    I suggested champagne on Thor Peak, Baffin Island. But my wife suggested that I could do that on my own...

    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/thor-peak-from-weasel-valley-auyuittuq-high-res-stock-photography/102329404
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514

    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    I recommend Wolverhampton, your wife will certainly remember it.
    You are being very harsh of Wolverhampton. I always say to a friend of mine, if you set an atom bomb off in Wednesbury it would do £5's worth of damage. He comes from near there.
    I always think the same of London :-)
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    Charles said:

    philiph said:

    Charles said:

    Itajai said:

    Though not necessarily Paris!

    Or the north.

    I'd prefer Nice to Monaco, but wait till Marine gets in. Even Paris may become acceptable to you then. ;-)

    They're both horrible. Cap d'Antibes, on the other hand is lovely, although Juan Les Pins gets too crowded for my taste
    Dropped my brothers ashes in the Med off the Cap d'Antibes last year. Idyllic place
    We honeymooned there and in Capri, which were both lovely. But I've set a high bar for future anniversaries... ;-)

    http://www.hotel-du-cap-eden-roc.com/eng/home/?
    I recommend Wolverhampton, your wife will certainly remember it.
    You are being very harsh of Wolverhampton. I always say to a friend of mine, if you set an atom bomb off in Wednesbury it would do £5's worth of damage. He comes from near there.
    The joke going around when the riots happened. "There was also a serious outbreak of riots in Newport (my fine home town), they caused £90,000 pounds worth of improvements"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    HYUFD said:
    Fascinating stuff. I apparently live squashed in on 2 sides by rich people. Though that's better than the citizens of Blandford, who are apparently walled in, one hopes not literally, by their richer brethren.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Omnium said:

    MD - German's a great language in many ways. I suspect that there are many things that one can say that really sound best in German. Tank-driving holidays in France for example.

    Nigel4England - yeah it's terrible but somehow great.

    Geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung, for example, which is so much more extravagantly Toad of Toad Hall redolent of Porsches on Autobahns than mere "speeding", which is much more of "35 in a 30 zone" sort of a word for me.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited October 2014
    Quite. If the medical profession could tick us off about the sex we have/HMG could tax it - I'm sure they would.

    Some medical bod told me the other day that the type of music I like wasn't good for me - and should restrict it to two hours a day. Seriously. And we're not talking about the volume of it either - just the content. I only mentioned it in passing as a small talk.

    I was WTF - GET A LIFE... What sort of music is acceptable FFS?

    EDIT - in case you're curious I mentioned Alice Cooper, PiL, The Damned and Talking Heads.

    Plato said:

    If I had my way, I'd measure my alcohol blood levels in pints = and yes I mean that way round ;^ )

    snip

    Sean_F said:

    FPT Morris Dancer, hence "I flogged the one-eyed snake."

    What Sir Les Patterson would refer to as, "Polishing the rocket".

    Anyway, we were talking earlier on here about the financial problems of the health service now and in the near future. Those problems are about to get worse I read in the paper.

    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
    There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"

    This new drug costs three pound a tablet and the person is supposed to take it when they fancy a drink as it supposedly stops them wanting another one. I think of the things the NHS could be spending hundreds of millions a year on people who are not problem drinkers (except as decided by some random decision) must be a about the most wasteful.

    If I decide I want two drinks then that is what I want, I am not going to take a tablet to make me only want one, why should I.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html


    The absurdity of this is it will just discourage people from going to see GPs until they are so ill they won't want to drink in any case. The problem being that the cost of addressing their illness could well be much larger than otherwise because of this piece of unwarranted authoritarianism

    I think there is an old saying* in the navy like "if it moves shoot it, if it doesn't paint it."

    I think that governments have a simple mantra too: "if it makes money tax it, if it's enjoyable ban it".

    It doesn't seem to get more complicated than that.

    * waits to be corrected.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    kle4 Well I suppose you may benefit from a literal 'trickle down effect', particularly on local house prices
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung looks like something a cat would type when it stands on the keyboard.
    welshowl said:

    Omnium said:

    MD - German's a great language in many ways. I suspect that there are many things that one can say that really sound best in German. Tank-driving holidays in France for example.

    Nigel4England - yeah it's terrible but somehow great.

    Geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung, for example, which is so much more extravagantly Toad of Toad Hall redolent of Porsches on Autobahns than mere "speeding", which is much more of "35 in a 30 zone" sort of a word for me.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    Some parts of Wolverhampton are not too bad in Enoch Powell's old seat, quite leafy suburbs, even Newport at least has quite a good view from the train on the way in
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited October 2014


    "Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said. There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.

    The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matter"


    Speaking as someone who buried an alcoholic friend less than 12 months ago (the 3rd one in five years), I feel quite sure that this will never work. My friend would simply never have taken the pill, so you would have had to send someone round to make her take it every day. Someone big and beefy because when you cornered her about alcohol she would yell, fight, scream, kick and punch.

    Ironically, it seems that it was the NHS that accidently killed her off. As she had multiple organ failure the doctors had to stick more and more needles in to her for this, that or the other. Eventually something somewhere was thinner than expected and a needle punctured her bowel. Since they could not operate (anaesthetic would kill her) she died of peritonitis.

    Does somebody really think that handing out a pill is the answer?
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    HYUFD said:

    Some parts of Wolverhampton are not too bad in Enoch Powell's old seat, quite leafy suburbs, even Newport at least has quite a good view from the train on the way in

    That's Weston Super Mare on a clear day is that view :-)
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Plato said:

    Geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung looks like something a cat would type when it stands on the keyboard.


    welshowl said:

    Omnium said:

    MD - German's a great language in many ways. I suspect that there are many things that one can say that really sound best in German. Tank-driving holidays in France for example.

    Nigel4England - yeah it's terrible but somehow great.

    Geschwindigkeitsueberschreitung, for example, which is so much more extravagantly Toad of Toad Hall redolent of Porsches on Autobahns than mere "speeding", which is much more of "35 in a 30 zone" sort of a word for me.
    Clever moggy to be able to write in German ;-)
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,457

    Surprised this isn't bigger news. Turkish MPs have voted for its military to join the war on ISIS:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29455204

    Turkish attitude to the conflict in the region is mixed, not the least in the government. Fear, opportunism and faith all play large roles.

    On another mater, some on here have occasionally been commenting on the Turkish government failing to stop fighters going over to ISIS. Well, that's easier said than done: they have to allow refugees to cross (Turkey's done a brilliant job wrt refugees so far), which makes the border porous. Add in the official traffic (aid, supplies to rebels etc) crossing over and it's a nightmare.

    And the length of the border also makes it near to impossible: 700 miles for the combined Iraq-Syria border - further than the distance between London and Wick by road, and much of it mountainous. People will get through if they are determined.

    Although the question remains whether parts of the Turkish government even have the will to close the border to individuals ...
  • HYUFD said:
    Slightly surprised that I live in the highest earning part of Norwich. I'm certainly not one of them.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    welshowl Well it is still quite Green until just before Newport station, you go over a river and Newport Castle is on the left
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    As well as the Heywood & Middleton poll, our daily @YouGov tracker is also rather interesting tonight. That story online at 10pm too@tomnewtondunn. Likely Cameron bounce?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    I wonder if Llandaff north independents are Tories? Something like that happened in Rhiwbina. That's an astonishingly poor vote share for the Tories in what is one of the more affluent parts of Cardiff.
  • HughHugh Posts: 955
    HYUFD said:

    As well as the Heywood & Middleton poll, our daily @YouGov tracker is also rather interesting tonight. That story online at 10pm too@tomnewtondunn. Likely Cameron bounce?

    Wondered how early the Sun would excitedly start teasing tonight's poll to build up their man Cameron.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    HYUFD said:

    welshowl Well it is still quite Green until just before Newport station, you go over a river and Newport Castle is on the left

    Absolutely right of course in all seriousness. There again ( not that I'm biased of course, heaven forfend ) Newport's main issue, as I've always seen it, is it's too close to Cardiff and suffers accordingly from being in its shadow, sadly for it.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    HYUFD said:

    As well as the Heywood & Middleton poll, our daily @YouGov tracker is also rather interesting tonight. That story online at 10pm too@tomnewtondunn. Likely Cameron bounce?

    Should come after the weekend if there is one.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Thanks to Harry.Some interest in South Northants but even if Ukip win it's unlikely Andrea Leadsom will lose much sleep.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,878
    Eastwinger/kle4 Seems most pbers in/close to more refined areas of their locales
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