That watermelon lady Lucas is on Sky - being interviewed about the Islamic State and debate in parliament on potential bombing. What a truly appalling harpie she is.
There's one thing about Ms Lucas - at least I can remember her name. The lady who took over [an Oz lady IIRC] remains entirely beyond my powers of recall.
That watermelon lady Lucas is on Sky - being interviewed about the Islamic State and debate in parliament on potential bombing. What a truly appalling harpie she is.
"Len McCluskey, Unite's general secretary, appealed to Ukip to oppose a transatlantic trade deal which critics fear could open up the NHS to American firms" according to DT RSS feed
A fascinating glimpse of concerns, past and present – Northern Ireland well down the list, but Trade Unions in the top 3. - as for the rest, somethings, it would appear never change.
It's unusual for Defence/Foreign Affairs to be so high, I believe.
????
Well it's bound to be higher when we are about to start bombing the Middle East!
Have I fallen into a sarcasm trap?
No, I think this is unusual even allowing for the circumstances. I don't think it's just the prospect of (very limited) bombing, it's probably also Ukraine, Gaza, the general Iraq/Syria situation.
I'm guessing the following parties have the advantage, in hierarchial rank order of those issues: UKIP, Tory, Labour, Tory, Tory=labour tie, Tory=labour tie, Labour, Tory, Labour and Tory.
Dunno about Sept 1974 but I do know that by May 1979 the Tories had pretty clear ideas (fairly well indicated to the electorate) and answers to the top 4 issues of the time: monetarism, council house sales, trade union reform and 'staying in'. They also had a fairly clear brand on crime and immigration as well.
Possible lesson for today's Tories: it's not enough to have an advantage on just one or two issues. You need to have clear answers to all the big issues of the day to win outright, and to argue well for them.
There's one thing about Ms Lucas - at least I can remember her name. The lady who took over [an Oz lady IIRC] remains entirely beyond my powers of recall.
That watermelon lady Lucas is on Sky - being interviewed about the Islamic State and debate in parliament on potential bombing. What a truly appalling harpie she is.
Small world...Alan Davey, chief executive of Arts Council England has been named new boss of Radio 3.
Now lets do some dot joining....
His job history is interesting, and altogether political.
As a senior civil servant at the Department of Culture Media and Sport, Davey was parachuted into the supposedly independent ACE to bring it in line with government thinking. His Secretary of State at DCMS was James Purnell.
Purnell is now Director of Strategy and Digital at the BBC, right-hand man to the Director General, Tony Hall.
The head-hunter who has nominated Davey for the Radio 3 vacancy is Nicky Oppenheimer, a Cabinet Office official under Tony Blair.
Why are race relations and immigration so much more important to people now?
Weren't we all supposed to be living happily together by now?
Anti-foreign sentiment tends to track (I think with a bit of a lag, as Socrates suggests with crime) economic downturns as people look for an external enemy or an identifiable minority to blame their problems on.
It's unusual for Defence/Foreign Affairs to be so high, I believe.
????
Well it's bound to be higher when we are about to start bombing the Middle East!
Have I fallen into a sarcasm trap?
No, I think this is unusual even allowing for the circumstances. I don't think it's just the prospect of (very limited) bombing, it's probably also Ukraine, Gaza, the general Iraq/Syria situation.
@FrancisUrquhart Not what you know, but who you know? It's terrible when you perceive that to be the case, that method of recruitment is supposed to be job specific.
Why are race relations and immigration so much more important to people now?
Weren't we all supposed to be living happily together by now?
Anti-foreign sentiment tends to track (I think with a bit of a lag, as Socrates suggests with crime) economic downturns as people look for an external enemy or an identifiable minority to blame their problems on.
We've also had a far longer stretch of extremely high immigration than we've ever had before. And, this comes on top of the previous wave in the 50s and 60s, the effects of which haven't gone away (as we see in cases like Rotherham).
What was the level you sold UKIP 2nd places in the GE at?
It was a fun bet with pulpstar, at 10 with a stop loss of 50.
Why do you ask? No, I'm not looking to extend it just now!
I just wondered, I am watching the Daily Politics and Matthew Goodwin said they may get 3-5 seats and a hell of a lot of 2nds... I tend to agree, I think they'll get around 40-50 2nd places.
I thought the level was around 10 so I had to check to see if I was being wildly optimistic/pessimistic!
It could all go horribly wrong, when a crossed wire with a local minicab firm, prompts Farage to start mumbling about a '12 seater minibus for the airport at 3 o'clock' (though conference, being so close to Rotherham, it's more likely to be a taxi to the nearest children's home).
@FrancisUrquhart Not what you know, but who you know? It's terrible when you perceive that to be the case, that method of recruitment is supposed to be job specific.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
Why are race relations and immigration so much more important to people now?
Weren't we all supposed to be living happily together by now?
Anti-foreign sentiment tends to track (I think with a bit of a lag, as Socrates suggests with crime) economic downturns as people look for an external enemy or an identifiable minority to blame their problems on.
Your kidding with that post ? have you ever thought that it could this short period of time with the highest immigration ever seen into this country.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
FPT I agree with Plato (and that is not a sentence I write often)
It does sound a bit sexist, this shoe and handbag tax, as they are goods bought overwhelmingly by women. See my season ticket example FPT.
Was going to reply, prior to the change of tread – Our good lady’s appear to share very similar tastes in both quality and quantity, when it comes to shoes.
The days of £200 or the equivalent for 20+ years ago are long gone. – Today, window shopping at Russell and Bromley still elicits the occasional purr, however a glimpse at the price more often than not, generates an ‘are they mad? response.
This is what I didn't understand about EdM. If he'd had an earwig, someone off stage could've prompted him. But he didn't. That seems like an oversight on even the most basic level. And we've seen the consequences.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
Isabel Hardman (@IsabelHardman) 26/09/2014 15:13 No need for Farage's spinners to stand at back telling crowd to cheer, unlike moribund Labour conference #ukip14
It could all go horribly wrong, when a crossed wire with a local minicab firm, prompts Farage to start mumbling about a '12 seater minibus for the airport at 3 o'clock' (though conference, being so close to Rotherham, it's more likely to be a taxi to the nearest children's home).
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
What do you think is the solution?
I don't think NATO would go to war to defend an incursion of one of the Baltic States. For starters, Russia would camouflage it enough to generate a 'debate' in the West about what to do.
I wonder if we should now put the withdrawal of our army from Germany on hold. IMHO if there is a change in the manifesto for the next Tory government, it should include freezing foreign aid at current levels (abandoning the 0.7% GDP target) - the argument would be that we were already achieving huge things with our aid budget and growing faster than other G7 countries etc..
The 2015 strategic defence review then needs to increase spending, I'm afraid. Reactivate 3-4 RAF fighter squadrons, a couple of extra batallions of light infantry, a replacement for Nimrod, and maybe add a couple of extra frigates to the type 26 naval orders.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
After Russian troops over ran Georgia did Russia occupy or annex it, or did they withdraw?
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
Sparrow: - "Angus Robertson, the SNP, says people are right to be sceptical. In the past we have heard strong arguments for intervention. But very little has been said about what will happen next.
He says today’s motion does support bombing. But it does not say anything about what will be done to construct peace.
That is why he and the SNP will be voting against the motion, he says."
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
On the subject of the debate going on in Parliament, I see this in the Telegraph:
"The US air force used a mix of fighter planes, attack jets and remotely piloted drone aircraft to conduct 10 airstrikes on Thursday and Friday, Central Command said. There were seven strikes on Isil facilities and equipment in Iraq and three in Syria. In Iraq, according to the Centcom read-out, five airstrikes south and southwest of Kirkuk destroyed three Isil Humvees and one Isil vehicle, disabled two other armed vehicles and damaged one Isil mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle. One airstrike west of Baghdad destroyed an Isil guard shack, an armed vehicle and a bunker. Another airstrike near Al Qaim destroyed four Isil armed vehicles, a command and control node and a checkpoint. Across the border, in Syria, three airstrikes south and southeast of Dayr Az Zawr destroyed four Isil tanks and damaged another."
So look at the number of air-strikes and the damage they caused to the enemy. It is pretty pathetic. The cost of mounting the strike plus the cost of the ordnance expended must surely far outweigh the cost to the enemy of the equipment lost. I mean five air-strikes destroyed three glorified Land Rovers, one what was probably a Toyota Pick-up truck and damaged three more vehicles. And that is what the Septics are claiming.
That is not a war winning strategy. It is a strategy for national bankruptcy, spending a few million to knock out a few hundred thousands worth of motor cars is daft. Yet we it would seem are going to join in. Albeit we are going to add half-a-dozen elderly Tornadoes yet we are going to be spending millions for what?
Where is the game plan? Where are the victory conditions? We are doing it again! We are going to war because of sentiment but with no idea how we are going to win that war or what even victory would look like. We are just going to take on a commitment to bomb some targets for an indefinite period of time, probably years, and hope that something changes. It is loony-tunes.
I don't think NATO would go to war to defend an incursion of one of the Baltic States. For starters, Russia would camouflage it enough to generate a 'debate' in the West about what to do.
I wonder if we should now put the withdrawal of our army from Germany on hold. IMHO if there is a change in the manifesto for the next Tory government, it should include freezing foreign aid at current levels (abandoning the 0.7% GDP target) - the argument would be that we were already achieving huge things with our aid budget and growing faster than other G7 countries etc..
The 2015 strategic defence review then needs to increase spending, I'm afraid. Reactivate 3-4 RAF fighter squadrons, a couple of extra batallions of light infantry, a replacement for Nimrod, and maybe add a couple of extra frigates to the type 26 naval orders.
If we allow democratic countries that are both in NATO and in the EU to be invaded without reprisal than the entire Western alliance will collapse in finger-pointing. It would give an utter go ahead to every regional power in the world to do what the hell they wanted. Russia would move on from the Baltic states to start looking at controlling places like Bulgaria and Romania, then Poland, and then keep on going. The GDP of the NATO alliance is more than ten times that of Russia, and Moscow knows this. They just think they have stronger will than we do.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
Mr. Llama, air cover will be very helpful to those forces on the ground. It helped turf the mad bastards out of a critical dam, and helped arrest their advance towards Kurdish areas.
On the diplomatic front, as Rory Someone (Stewart?) said on QT last night, we should be trying our best to cement a strong regional alliance against ISIS.
If we do nothing, ISIS could well overrun Syria and Iraq. And then Jordan, and Lebanon would be vulnerable. At what point would we take action?
Again I ask you what proportion of expensive bags sold are men's bags?
Men just don't spend anything like as much money on clothes and accessories as women. That's why ladieswear dominates department stores and millions more square feet are put over to ladieswear than menswear. To say this is not sexist, as you suggest. It is merely a simple statement of fact and anyone who denies it is ignoring the clear evidence in front of them.
Your £200 shoes? PB Kipper anecdote vs empirical retail evidence.
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
So? Happens all the time, the Baltic states have been key lobbyists for sanctions.
Interesting how you pop up whenever this subject is mentioned.
Personally I would ask why some people seem determined to provoke and instigate hostile actions against another nation, seems like a monomaniac obsession for some, must upset them to be consistently debunked every time.
It is interesting at his speech to the UN that Obama did not come out directly and implicate Russia and the eastern Ukrainian rebels in the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Given his access to detailed U.S. intelligence on the topic, he should have been able to point the finger directly, if indeed that’s what the facts showed. Instead, he played word games to create the impression that the rebels and Russia were to blame without actually spelling out any evidence against them. Guess that must be the same reason the conversations with ATC in Kiev have not been released?
On the subject of the debate going on in Parliament, I see this in the Telegraph:
"The US air force used a mix of fighter planes, attack jets and remotely piloted drone aircraft to conduct 10 airstrikes on Thursday and Friday, Central Command said. There were seven strikes on Isil facilities and equipment in Iraq and three in Syria. In Iraq, according to the Centcom read-out, five airstrikes south and southwest of Kirkuk destroyed three Isil Humvees and one Isil vehicle, disabled two other armed vehicles and damaged one Isil mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle. One airstrike west of Baghdad destroyed an Isil guard shack, an armed vehicle and a bunker. Another airstrike near Al Qaim destroyed four Isil armed vehicles, a command and control node and a checkpoint. Across the border, in Syria, three airstrikes south and southeast of Dayr Az Zawr destroyed four Isil tanks and damaged another."
So look at the number of air-strikes and the damage they caused to the enemy. It is pretty pathetic. The cost of mounting the strike plus the cost of the ordnance expended must surely far outweigh the cost to the enemy of the equipment lost. I mean five air-strikes destroyed three glorified Land Rovers, one what was probably a Toyota Pick-up truck and damaged three more vehicles. And that is what the Septics are claiming.
That is not a war winning strategy. It is a strategy for national bankruptcy, spending a few million to knock out a few hundred thousands worth of motor cars is daft. Yet we it would seem are going to join in. Albeit we are going to add half-a-dozen elderly Tornadoes yet we are going to be spending millions for what?
Where is the game plan? Where are the victory conditions? We are doing it again! We are going to war because of sentiment but with no idea how we are going to win that war or what even victory would look like. We are just going to take on a commitment to bomb some targets for an indefinite period of time, probably years, and hope that something changes. It is loony-tunes.
The West is caught saying 'Something must be done', but without the will to actually do anything meaningful
Farage is actually right on this. ISIS don't actually have any fear of the West...why should they?
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
Also Robert Gates makes clear Georgia started the war. Of course you, as ever, know better.
South Ossetia was an internationally recognised part of Georgia. How can you invade your own country?
But it is inhabited by Ossetians and declared independence from Georgia in 1990. The Georgians tried to re-take the area by force in 1991-1992, but lost.
I don't think NATO would go to war to defend an incursion of one of the Baltic States. For starters, Russia would camouflage it enough to generate a 'debate' in the West about what to do.
I wonder if we should now put the withdrawal of our army from Germany on hold. IMHO if there is a change in the manifesto for the next Tory government, it should include freezing foreign aid at current levels (abandoning the 0.7% GDP target) - the argument would be that we were already achieving huge things with our aid budget and growing faster than other G7 countries etc..
The 2015 strategic defence review then needs to increase spending, I'm afraid. Reactivate 3-4 RAF fighter squadrons, a couple of extra batallions of light infantry, a replacement for Nimrod, and maybe add a couple of extra frigates to the type 26 naval orders.
If we allow democratic countries that are both in NATO and in the EU to be invaded without reprisal than the entire Western alliance will collapse in finger-pointing. It would give an utter go ahead to every regional power in the world to do what the hell they wanted. Russia would move on from the Baltic states to start looking at controlling places like Bulgaria and Romania, then Poland, and then keep on going. The GDP of the NATO alliance is more than ten times that of Russia, and Moscow knows this. They just think they have stronger will than we do.
Yes, I understand that and agree with you.
Where it becomes tricky is what exactly would be done. I don't think NATO would fire on "Latvian Rebels" supported by Russian "humanitarian aid". I feel the West may well end up preferring the collapse of NATO to war with Russia. Far too many are wobbly, too weak, too scared about Russia and horrifed by war; they will find any excuse not to pull the trigger. It's now a very fractured alliance.
Do you disagree?
In terms of deterring Russia, now. What do you think we should do? Station troops permanently in the Baltic States in defiance of our previous agreements? Up our defence spending? Increase our presence in Germany? All of them?
Again I ask you what proportion of expensive bags sold are men's bags?
Men just don't spend anything like as much money on clothes and accessories as women. That's why ladieswear dominates department stores and millions more square feet are put over to ladieswear than menswear. To say this is not sexist, as you suggest. It is merely a simple statement of fact and anyone who denies it is ignoring the clear evidence in front of them.
Your £200 shoes? PB Kipper anecdote vs empirical retail evidence.
Haha
Oh bore off!!!!
You could just as easily say men buy far more 50k cars and say it was anti men
Try and make some kind of weedy feminist point if you like you just look a wally
The Baltic countries are registering a dramatic increase in Russian military provocations, rattling nerves in a region which fears it could be the next frontier after Ukraine in Moscow’s quest at asserting its regional power.
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
I remember when I warned that we needed to draw a clear line in the sand after Russia invaded Georgia a few years back. Everyone said I was being melodramatic...
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
Also Robert Gates makes clear Georgia started the war. Of course you, as ever, know better.
South Ossetia was an internationally recognised part of Georgia. How can you invade your own country?
The 1992 agreement divided South Ossetia into areas controlled by Georgia and areas controlled by the unrecognised government of South Osseti, surely you know that?
Again I ask you what proportion of expensive bags sold are men's bags?
Men just don't spend anything like as much money on clothes and accessories as women. That's why ladieswear dominates department stores and millions more square feet are put over to ladieswear than menswear. To say this is not sexist, as you suggest. It is merely a simple statement of fact and anyone who denies it is ignoring the clear evidence in front of them.
Your £200 shoes? PB Kipper anecdote vs empirical retail evidence.
From the poster who on a previous thread gave us anecdotal evidence of their wife's 60+ pairs of shoes. How funny.
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26/09/2014 12:43
@Michael_Heaver @UKIP @Steven_Woolfe and @oflynnmep are very good
Michael Heaver (@Michael_Heaver)
26/09/2014 14:34
Douglas Carswell: Doesn't it feel great to be in UKIP? #UKIPConf14
This is the joys of editing PB, you plan one thread, as you are about to publish it, a poll comes out that you were expecting next week....
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-political-health-alert-ukip-stumbles-pc-feminist-mush/
Bastards!!
Weren't we all supposed to be living happily together by now?
Do we have a view on what floats the boat of the floaters in the top 80 marginals? A breakdown of this issues index against them?
Would be interesting to compare and contrast.
Let's see how it plays out
Well it's bound to be higher when we are about to start bombing the Middle East!
Have I fallen into a sarcasm trap?
"Len McCluskey, Unite's general secretary, appealed to Ukip to oppose a transatlantic trade deal which critics fear could open up the NHS to American firms" according to DT RSS feed
A fascinating glimpse of concerns, past and present – Northern Ireland well down the list, but Trade Unions in the top 3. - as for the rest, somethings, it would appear never change.
I'm confused.....
Dunno about Sept 1974 but I do know that by May 1979 the Tories had pretty clear ideas (fairly well indicated to the electorate) and answers to the top 4 issues of the time: monetarism, council house sales, trade union reform and 'staying in'. They also had a fairly clear brand on crime and immigration as well.
Possible lesson for today's Tories: it's not enough to have an advantage on just one or two issues. You need to have clear answers to all the big issues of the day to win outright, and to argue well for them.
Inflation was 82 in September 1974.
Was that the actual inflation figure in September 1974?
She's entitled to her opinion, this is a democracy. Her stance will be put to the voters next May.
Now lets do some dot joining....
His job history is interesting, and altogether political.
As a senior civil servant at the Department of Culture Media and Sport, Davey was parachuted into the supposedly independent ACE to bring it in line with government thinking. His Secretary of State at DCMS was James Purnell.
Purnell is now Director of Strategy and Digital at the BBC, right-hand man to the Director General, Tony Hall.
The head-hunter who has nominated Davey for the Radio 3 vacancy is Nicky Oppenheimer, a Cabinet Office official under Tony Blair.
Furry nuff
Not what you know, but who you know?
It's terrible when you perceive that to be the case, that method of recruitment is supposed to be job specific.
http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3455/EconomistIpsos-MORI-September-2014-Issues-Index.aspx
It does sound a bit sexist, this shoe and handbag tax, as they are goods bought overwhelmingly by women. See my season ticket example FPT.
What was the level you sold UKIP 2nd places in the GE at?
see: http://www.inflation.eu/inflation-rates/great-britain/historic-inflation/cpi-inflation-great-britain-1974.aspx
Why do you ask? No, I'm not looking to extend it just now!
http://www.ukip.org/patrick_o_flynn_lays_out_ukip_s_economic_plan
http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/02/luxury-goods-market
@DAaronovitch: If Nigel Farage were to forget to deliver half his speech no-one would notice and no-one would care.
@faisalislam: Farage has an earpiece!
O'Flynn is the one citing ladies' fashions as two of his three examples, not me.
Are there plans to take season tickets or Sky Sports subscriptions?
I thought the level was around 10 so I had to check to see if I was being wildly optimistic/pessimistic!
"...such as £200 for a pair of shoes, £1,000 for a bag or £50,000 for a new car."
http://www.ukip.org/patrick_o_flynn_lays_out_ukip_s_economic_plan
Nato fighters policing Baltic airspace were scrambled 68 times along Lithuania’s borders this year, by far the highest count in more than 10 years. Latvia registered 150 “close incidents”, cases where Russian aircraft were found approaching and observed for risky behaviour. Estonia said its sovereign airspace had been violated by Russian aircraft five times this year, nearing the total count of seven over the previous eight years.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9d016276-43c3-11e4-baa7-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3EQmVx2yi
Salami slices.
Your kidding with that post ? have you ever thought that it could this short period of time with the highest immigration ever seen into this country.
Think again oh metrosexual one
You're saying only men drive nice cars, only women wear nice shoes and men don't pay up for bags
Sexist much??
You really aren't a Londoner!!!
The days of £200 or the equivalent for 20+ years ago are long gone. – Today, window shopping at Russell and Bromley still elicits the occasional purr, however a glimpse at the price more often than not, generates an ‘are they mad? response.
26/09/2014 15:13
No need for Farage's spinners to stand at back telling crowd to cheer, unlike moribund Labour conference #ukip14
I think he should pretend to forget a bit a la Ed
Mr Collins has an excellent piece on EdM today to. Cruel, but true sums it up.
Sounds like it.
I don't think NATO would go to war to defend an incursion of one of the Baltic States. For starters, Russia would camouflage it enough to generate a 'debate' in the West about what to do.
I wonder if we should now put the withdrawal of our army from Germany on hold. IMHO if there is a change in the manifesto for the next Tory government, it should include freezing foreign aid at current levels (abandoning the 0.7% GDP target) - the argument would be that we were already achieving huge things with our aid budget and growing faster than other G7 countries etc..
The 2015 strategic defence review then needs to increase spending, I'm afraid. Reactivate 3-4 RAF fighter squadrons, a couple of extra batallions of light infantry, a replacement for Nimrod, and maybe add a couple of extra frigates to the type 26 naval orders.
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/64521
The sensible conclusion would have been to realise the Russians had set out a clear marker not to interfere in their sphere of influence and that we should not give extremists reason to think they can provoke Russia and that we would then back them up.
Carswell for leader!
He says today’s motion does support bombing. But it does not say anything about what will be done to construct peace.
That is why he and the SNP will be voting against the motion, he says."
Also Robert Gates makes clear Georgia started the war. Of course you, as ever, know better.
No, that's why I said overwhelmingly rather than exclusively.
What percentage of bags costing over £1000 are men's bags do you think?
Farage in favour of English votes for English laws. Mildly surprised he didn't go for an English Parliament. Perhaps later.
You're missing all the fun of the Farage.
"The US air force used a mix of fighter planes, attack jets and remotely piloted drone aircraft to conduct 10 airstrikes on Thursday and Friday, Central Command said.
There were seven strikes on Isil facilities and equipment in Iraq and three in Syria.
In Iraq, according to the Centcom read-out, five airstrikes south and southwest of Kirkuk destroyed three Isil Humvees and one Isil vehicle, disabled two other armed vehicles and damaged one Isil mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle.
One airstrike west of Baghdad destroyed an Isil guard shack, an armed vehicle and a bunker. Another airstrike near Al Qaim destroyed four Isil armed vehicles, a command and control node and a checkpoint.
Across the border, in Syria, three airstrikes south and southeast of Dayr Az Zawr destroyed four Isil tanks and damaged another."
So look at the number of air-strikes and the damage they caused to the enemy. It is pretty pathetic. The cost of mounting the strike plus the cost of the ordnance expended must surely far outweigh the cost to the enemy of the equipment lost. I mean five air-strikes destroyed three glorified Land Rovers, one what was probably a Toyota Pick-up truck and damaged three more vehicles. And that is what the Septics are claiming.
That is not a war winning strategy. It is a strategy for national bankruptcy, spending a few million to knock out a few hundred thousands worth of motor cars is daft. Yet we it would seem are going to join in. Albeit we are going to add half-a-dozen elderly Tornadoes yet we are going to be spending millions for what?
Where is the game plan? Where are the victory conditions? We are doing it again! We are going to war because of sentiment but with no idea how we are going to win that war or what even victory would look like. We are just going to take on a commitment to bomb some targets for an indefinite period of time, probably years, and hope that something changes. It is loony-tunes.
A couple of people though Carswell was a pro immigration kinda guy who would hate the ruffians at ukip...
I had to link to about a dozen anti immigration quotes from Carswell before they shut up
He just didn't shriek "deficit!" every two minutes like your Party.
On the diplomatic front, as Rory Someone (Stewart?) said on QT last night, we should be trying our best to cement a strong regional alliance against ISIS.
If we do nothing, ISIS could well overrun Syria and Iraq. And then Jordan, and Lebanon would be vulnerable. At what point would we take action?
Again I ask you what proportion of expensive bags sold are men's bags?
Men just don't spend anything like as much money on clothes and accessories as women. That's why ladieswear dominates department stores and millions more square feet are put over to ladieswear than menswear. To say this is not sexist, as you suggest. It is merely a simple statement of fact and anyone who denies it is ignoring the clear evidence in front of them.
Your £200 shoes? PB Kipper anecdote vs empirical retail evidence.
It is interesting at his speech to the UN that Obama did not come out directly and implicate Russia and the eastern Ukrainian rebels in the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Given his access to detailed U.S. intelligence on the topic, he should have been able to point the finger directly, if indeed that’s what the facts showed. Instead, he played word games to create the impression that the rebels and Russia were to blame without actually spelling out any evidence against them. Guess that must be the same reason the conversations with ATC in Kiev have not been released?
Farage is actually right on this. ISIS don't actually have any fear of the West...why should they?
Hahahaha
Yes the old labour vote probably prefer a policy wonk talking about people he met on Hampstead heath
not forgetting Xiamara from his local boozer
red Flag to @hugh come steaming in old boy
He left the Cons because they weren't close enough to his views and now he is the big fish with the opportunity to shape UKIP's strategy.
What better way to shape a party's strategy than to be leader of it.
Plus he is a politician. He didn't enter politics not to take the opportunities when they present themselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991–92_South_Ossetia_War
Where it becomes tricky is what exactly would be done. I don't think NATO would fire on "Latvian Rebels" supported by Russian "humanitarian aid". I feel the West may well end up preferring the collapse of NATO to war with Russia. Far too many are wobbly, too weak, too scared about Russia and horrifed by war; they will find any excuse not to pull the trigger. It's now a very fractured alliance.
Do you disagree?
In terms of deterring Russia, now. What do you think we should do? Station troops permanently in the Baltic States in defiance of our previous agreements? Up our defence spending? Increase our presence in Germany? All of them?
I'm interested in your specific suggestions.
Haha
Oh bore off!!!!
You could just as easily say men buy far more 50k cars and say it was anti men
Try and make some kind of weedy feminist point if you like you just look a wally