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  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    You're still babbling ispam. Bush started the Iraq war no amount of swivel eyed lunacy about the nanny state causing every terrorist attack in the 21st century in Britain can stop that from being the truth.

    But carry on as you inexplicably think spouting ever more gibberish as a last word is somehow vindicating you instead of doing precisely the opposite.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,608
    Mick_Pork said:

    You're still babbling ispam. Bush started the Iraq war no amount of swivel eyed lunacy about the nanny state causing every terrorist attack in the 21st century in Britain can stop that from being the truth.

    But carry on as you inexplicably think spouting ever more gibberish as a last word is somehow vindicating you instead of doing precisely the opposite.

    Are you saying, had we not invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, 7/7 and yesterday's murder would have happened anyway?
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited May 2013
    I'm saying blaming the "nanny state" for every terrorist attack in the 21st century in Britain is mad swivel eyed lunacy. I'm also saying Bush and the neconservatives started the Iraq War so calling them left wing is also merely yet more proof of that mad swivel eyed lunacy.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Lewis_Duckwoth

    Did anyone tell these rioting immigrants that if they are unhappy with their life in Sweden,they are free to leave at anytime?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,769
    I think everybody is missing the main story here, which is that that Cornish lady is a badass.

    "Being a cub leader..."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10074881/Mum-talked-down-Woolwich-terrorists-who-told-her-We-want-to-start-a-war-in-London-tonight.html

    Why did Britain and America send Tony Blair to sort out the Palestine situation when they could have sent her?
  • isamisam Posts: 42,608
    Mick_Pork said:

    I'm saying blaming the "nanny state" for every terrorist attack in the 21st century in Britain is mad swivel eyed lunacy. I'm also saying Bush and the neconservatives started the Iraq War so calling them left wing is also mad swivel eyed lunacy.

    I was talking about uk politics. I've no doubt the reason for America invading Iraq was revenge for 9/11 plus an earner for some politicians, but the uks was not. It was sold to us falsely as a necessity due to WMD then as a world police style mission to get rid of Saddam. Do you think Iraqis will thank us for it?

    As for Afghanistan, why are we even there?

    It seems to me to be for selfish vanity high moral ground reasons rather than a duty to the afghans. And if we'd stayed out of both there would have been no 7/7 and that soldier would be in the pub tonight rather than having his head cut off

  • SeanT said:

    OK, to be a bit controversial: I hate these machete wielding Muslim scum as much as the next person, and I hope they are slowly burned to death in prison, over a period of years.

    But the fact is, their repulsive hatred is not without rationale. Israel behaves barbarically towards the Palestinians. The west invades Muslim countries willy-nilly. Iraq is still a bloody, horrible mess - tipping into a new civil war as we speak - a decade after we unilaterally decided to sort it out. The drones of the west decapitate Arab and Asian kids, daily, and there ain't no iPhone cameras there to record the horror.

    So what do we do? Good Fences Make Good Neighbours. If the Islamic millions want to live in a bilious, backward, misogynist medieval hellscape, there ain't much we can do about it.

    We should withdraw from Afghanistan, apologise for Iraq, make Israel cede a two state solution. But then we should then stop virtually all immigration from Muslim countries, cease any serious interaction, build a bloody big wall if necessary, and say: that's it: any more terrorism: BOOM.

    This is now quite do-able, as we will soon no longer be reliant on Middle East oil.

    A solution is in sight.

    You talk so much sense most of the time that I often forget you sometimes become an irrational, Israel hating, terrorist defending fountain of waffle.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,258
    ISAM - 9/11 and the USS Cole etc happened before Afghanistan and Iraq and the world would be even less safe were Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein still around. Yes, we are now out of Iraq and will soon be out of Afghanistan, but that does not alter the fact Al Qaeda wants to eradicate Israel and re-establish an Islamic caliphate
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