Imagine the senescent screeching on here if one of the few remaining Yes supporters put forward a poll of a selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes?
Something of similar psephological value would be the Scottish subset of 170 in yesterday's Comres poll (thanks for these figs from Scottish Skier, a valuable contributor on Scot Goes Pop, a site that's actually relevant to the indy debate).
Modestly sized (170) subset from Comres
How favourable or unfavourable are you towards each of the following?
Independence for Scotland
45% Favourable 36% Unfavourable 9% Neither 11% DK
That's from a group identifying as 55% voters for Unionist parties, 37% for SNP. A straw in the wind.
You're a bit slow....I pointed that out on the last thread....
You're a bit slow if you think I trawl through every PB thread, and more particularly your contributions. I wouldn't go quite as far as calling you a fecking moron, mind.
I am sure you will love paying Scottish pensions when we are independent. Having contributed for a full UK state pension I will think of you wailing and gnashing your teeth as I collect my UK pension paid by rumpUK, in an independent Scotland.
at 8% or whatever the agreed number is
Charles , I agree with you, my previous response was just in kind to Carlotta who is unable to discuss matters in an adult fashion.
You mean like this:
Dear Dear , Toom Tabard is alive and well.
And thanks for reminding us that Darling is trusted 39:1 over Salmond among No voting pensioners.
Some friends of yours no doubt, they have similar opinions as you as well
If you read the small print (always wise where the SNP are concerned) you'll note that it's not Better Together material - but from Charlie Ballie's Britannica Party - you ever heard of them? Me neither!
I am sure you will love paying Scottish pensions when we are independent. Having contributed for a full UK state pension I will think of you wailing and gnashing your teeth as I collect my UK pension paid by rumpUK, in an independent Scotland.
at 8% or whatever the agreed number is
Charles , I agree with you, my previous response was just in kind to Carlotta who is unable to discuss matters in an adult fashion.
You mean like this:
Dear Dear , Toom Tabard is alive and well.
And thanks for reminding us that Darling is trusted 39:1 over Salmond among No voting pensioners.
Some friends of yours no doubt, they have similar opinions as you as well
If you read the small print (always wise where the SNP are concerned) you'll note that it's not Better Together material - but from Charlie Ballie's Britannica Party - you ever heard of them? Me neither!
Officially registered NO group, keep squirming, NO will stoop to any level, like yourself.
Just checked, they are on the official register of parties/organisations.
Poor Carlotta, hoist by her own petard. Worrying about pensioners when she is hand in glove with such lovely people. No need to worry about pensions when you have people like that running things.
What is amazing is the way that Rennard's supporters (mainly elderly) have no grasp of the scale of damage that this has inflicted on its younger female activists and PPCs. There is clearly a generational problem within the LDs on understanding what is proper and improper behaviour.
I see it as more to do with the older generation giving more weight to proper process and justice. The party procedures have not found Rennard guilty of anything despite extensive efforts to do so. Some of the younger and/or female Lib Dems want disproportionate punishment for an unproved crime based solely on emotions rather than justice. This is a point of view but out of line with Liberal values which are very strong on fairness and justice. Had Rennard been investigated when he was an employee of the Lib Dems rather than a member then a different process would have applied. If party members (of any party) are to be expelled for encroaching on someone's personal space then there will be very few left. Either way Rennard would have done the party he claims to love a favour by resigning. As it is the Lib Dems have had to take another hit.
The allegations happened WHEN he was an employee. Yet Clegg/Alexander/exPresident/etc chose to take no formal disciplinary action over the allegations. 1 male against one female. Repeated four times. What is missing from this is any sense about the "brand image of the LDs". Rennard's supporters seem to think that any damage to the party's image is worth this. They rate 1 older man more highly than 4+ female activists.
Oddly, not one female LD (yes there are 7) has anything to say about the whole sorry episode. Nothing to say from the older female LD MPs about their younger sisters. They simply choose to ignore it and look the other way. I just cannot conceive of all the senior female MPs in Labour or the Conservatives doing the same. Why are female LD MPs acting so differently?
I don't think that's true. For example I'm pretty sure I've seen Lynne Featherstone for example comment on it.
No female has commented since Rennard was restored and more female LDs resigned. Featherstone said in Jan 2014 "Extremely disappointed Rennard has failed to apologise". He then did a form of apology a few months later. But nothing from Featherstone etc recently.
What is amazing is the way that Rennard's supporters (mainly elderly) have no grasp of the scale of damage that this has inflicted on its younger female activists and PPCs. There is clearly a generational problem within the LDs on understanding what is proper and improper behaviour.
Liberal Youth have banned him from any of their events.
Thanks, does that still apply, or was it done after his membership was reinstated.
Poor Carlotta, hoist by her own petard. Worrying about pensioners when she is hand in glove with such lovely people. No need to worry about pensions when you have people like that running things.
Imagine the senescent screeching on here if one of the few remaining Yes supporters put forward a poll of a selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes?
Something of similar psephological value would be the Scottish subset of 170 in yesterday's Comres poll (thanks for these figs from Scottish Skier, a valuable contributor on Scot Goes Pop, a site that's actually relevant to the indy debate).
Modestly sized (170) subset from Comres
How favourable or unfavourable are you towards each of the following?
Independence for Scotland
45% Favourable 36% Unfavourable 9% Neither 11% DK
That's from a group identifying as 55% voters for Unionist parties, 37% for SNP. A straw in the wind.
You're a bit slow....I pointed that out on the last thread....
You're a bit slow if you think I trawl through every PB thread, and more particularly your contributions. I wouldn't go quite as far as calling you a fecking moron, mind.
Embarrassed, much? Since your post was predicated on the assumption that there would be senescent screeching were such information posted, you must be gutted, but not as much as you will be in the 19th....
I am sure you will love paying Scottish pensions when we are independent. Having contributed for a full UK state pension I will think of you wailing and gnashing your teeth as I collect my UK pension paid by rumpUK, in an independent Scotland.
at 8% or whatever the agreed number is
Charles , I agree with you, my previous response was just in kind to Carlotta who is unable to discuss matters in an adult fashion.
You mean like this:
Dear Dear , Toom Tabard is alive and well.
And thanks for reminding us that Darling is trusted 39:1 over Salmond among No voting pensioners.
Some friends of yours no doubt, they have similar opinions as you as well
If you read the small print (always wise where the SNP are concerned) you'll note that it's not Better Together material - but from Charlie Ballie's Britannica Party - you ever heard of them? Me neither!
Poor Carlotta, hoist by her own petard. Worrying about pensioners when she is hand in glove with such lovely people. No need to worry about pensions when you have people like that running things.
Still, it is true no one will have heard of them!
Rob, plenty of other unsavoury groups with them as well, they are happy to take money and support from anybody , no scruples. They are a nasty mix of some not nice groups.
Poor Carlotta, hoist by her own petard. Worrying about pensioners when she is hand in glove with such lovely people. No need to worry about pensions when you have people like that running things.
Still, it is true no one will have heard of them!
Rob, plenty of other unsavoury groups with them as well, they are happy to take money and support from anybody , no scruples. They are a nasty mix of some not nice groups.
'No Thanks' independence posters defaced Posters urging people to vote against independence in Scotland have been spray painted with the words 'scum' and destroyed
If you read the small print (always wise where the SNP are concerned) you'll note that it's not Better Together material - but from Charlie Ballie's Britannica Party - you ever heard of them? Me neither!
Officially registered NO group, keep squirming, NO will stoop to any level, like yourself.
Like lying about non-existent legal advice? Or was that Salmond?
I'm sure all the YESNP material is beyond reproach, otherwise......
You stick to worrying about being swamped by all those "new Scots" and family and friends being torn apart. Polish your barbed wire and practice your flute. You and your pals are lovely characters.
Imagine the senescent screeching on here if one of the few remaining Yes supporters put forward a poll of a selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes?
Something of similar psephological value would be the Scottish subset of 170 in yesterday's Comres poll (thanks for these figs from Scottish Skier, a valuable contributor on Scot Goes Pop, a site that's actually relevant to the indy debate).
Modestly sized (170) subset from Comres
How favourable or unfavourable are you towards each of the following?
Independence for Scotland
45% Favourable 36% Unfavourable 9% Neither 11% DK
That's from a group identifying as 55% voters for Unionist parties, 37% for SNP. A straw in the wind.
You're a bit slow....I pointed that out on the last thread....
You're a bit slow if you think I trawl through every PB thread, and more particularly your contributions. I wouldn't go quite as far as calling you a fecking moron, mind.
Embarrassed, much? Since your post was predicated on the assumption that there would be senescent screeching were such information posted, you must be gutted, but not as much as you will be in the 19th....
'Gutted'? Golly, you sure seem to be approaching peak senescent screeching this afternoon. HRT withdrawal symptoms?
It appears to have damaged your comprehension, such as it is. How does the Comres Scottish element resemble a 'selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes'?
If you read the small print (always wise where the SNP are concerned) you'll note that it's not Better Together material - but from Charlie Ballie's Britannica Party - you ever heard of them? Me neither!
Officially registered NO group, keep squirming, NO will stoop to any level, like yourself.
Like lying about non-existent legal advice? Or was that Salmond?
I'm sure all the YESNP material is beyond reproach, otherwise......
You stick to worrying about being swamped by all those "new Scots" and family and friends being torn apart. Polish your barbed wire and practice your flute. You and your pals are lovely characters.
Join your fellow paranoids, I'm sure you'll fit right in:
When you see the people you are associating with , would you not be concerned. May be better stopping now , worrying about dodgy pens does not compare with swamped by "new Scots" , whatever could that mean. Racists are far worse than people worrying about pens in my book.
Imagine the senescent screeching on here if one of the few remaining Yes supporters put forward a poll of a selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes?
Something of similar psephological value would be the Scottish subset of 170 in yesterday's Comres poll (thanks for these figs from Scottish Skier, a valuable contributor on Scot Goes Pop, a site that's actually relevant to the indy debate).
Modestly sized (170) subset from Comres
How favourable or unfavourable are you towards each of the following?
Independence for Scotland
45% Favourable 36% Unfavourable 9% Neither 11% DK
That's from a group identifying as 55% voters for Unionist parties, 37% for SNP. A straw in the wind.
You're a bit slow....I pointed that out on the last thread....
You're a bit slow if you think I trawl through every PB thread, and more particularly your contributions. I wouldn't go quite as far as calling you a fecking moron, mind.
Embarrassed, much? Since your post was predicated on the assumption that there would be senescent screeching were such information posted, you must be gutted, but not as much as you will be in the 19th....
'Gutted'? Golly, you sure seem to be approaching peak senescent screeching this afternoon. HRT withdrawal symptoms?
It appears to have damaged your comprehension such as it is. How does the Comres Scottish element resemble a 'selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes'?
is there an English translation available?
Since Malcolm is shy, would you like to hazard a guess as to why 96% of no voting pensioners are worried about their pensions in a separate Scotland, and trust Darling 39:1 vs Salmond, or do you think they are turnips too?
What does the polling evidence (I know that's your strong suit) say about the appetite if Scots residents for the SNP's immigration plans? :Innocent Face;0:
Poor Carlotta, hoist by her own petard. Worrying about pensioners when she is hand in glove with such lovely people. No need to worry about pensions when you have people like that running things.
Still, it is true no one will have heard of them!
Rob, plenty of other unsavoury groups with them as well, they are happy to take money and support from anybody , no scruples. They are a nasty mix of some not nice groups.
'No Thanks' independence posters defaced Posters urging people to vote against independence in Scotland have been spray painted with the words 'scum' and destroyed
Thye should be worried whether they will continue to get the worst pension in Europe under the UK and the fact that Westminster are raising the age you get it to ensure Scots contribute and get nothing back. They cause poverty and then hav eunfair pension rules to rob Scots afterwards.
Malcolm, can you back up your claim that UK pensions are " the worst in Europe " ? Even by your standards it seems unreliable.
Thye should be worried whether they will continue to get the worst pension in Europe under the UK and the fact that Westminster are raising the age you get it to ensure Scots contribute and get nothing back. They cause poverty and then hav eunfair pension rules to rob Scots afterwards.
Malcolm, can you back up your claim that UK pensions are " the worst in Europe " ? Even by your standards it seems unreliable.
Comments
Featherstone said in Jan 2014 "Extremely disappointed Rennard has failed to apologise". He then did a form of apology a few months later. But nothing from Featherstone etc recently.
I'm sure all the YESNP material is beyond reproach, otherwise......
Yes supporters plan to use pens to mark their ballot papers amid fears their vote may be altered if they use the pencils provided.
The Electoral Commission has confirmed to a group of independence campaigners they are allowed to use their own pens when they cast their vote.
http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/scotland/independence-referendum/yes-voters-say-poll-may-be-nobbled-1.538913
Posters urging people to vote against independence in Scotland have been spray painted with the words 'scum' and destroyed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11045117/No-Thanks-independence-posters-defaced.html
It appears to have damaged your comprehension, such as it is. How does the Comres Scottish element resemble a 'selected subset of respondents historically in favour of Yes'?
https://www.facebook.com/IndependentScot/photos/pb.181452502007292.-2207520000.1408820108./367892956696578/?type=3&theater
Since Malcolm is shy, would you like to hazard a guess as to why 96% of no voting pensioners are worried about their pensions in a separate Scotland, and trust Darling 39:1 vs Salmond, or do you think they are turnips too?
pals of yours no doubt.................
https://twitter.com/duartlodge/media
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/referendum/307362/eminent-north-east-heart-specialist-attacks-vandalism-of-referendum-campaign-signs/
http://www.peeblesshirenews.com/news/peebles/articles/2014/08/19/507319-referendum-rowdies/
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/angus-the-mearns/anger-as-vandals-scrawl-swastika-on-snp-msp-s-office-for-a-second-time-1.484620
http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/11/28/uk-state-pension-is-lowest-in-europe/
http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/11/28/uk-state-pension-is-lowest-in-europe/
http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/11/28/uk-state-pension-is-lowest-in-europe/