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  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,703
    A wicket at last; a run out!
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    I won;t mind that much if England get beat in the cricket....Alistair Cook is turning into one of my least favourite sports people.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    TOPPING said:

    just backed David Lammy @ 12s.

    I like him. No doubt if I do enough research I will realise he is hopelessly inappropriate and a thorough cad but I am not going to do that research.

    I don't think finding out that he is a cad is the main problem. His basic lack of competency would surely be more of a concern.

    I think what is noticeable on the list of candidates and their 'popularity' is what little enthusiasm there appears to be for any of them - even from within Labour ranks (and they are the ones doing the choosing)

    When Diane Abbott tops the poll for Labour voters, you know there is something wrong with the available talent.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    @TGOHF

    It's almost as if Ed is capable of taking an independent line that is the opposite of what the main trade unions donors to his party want!

    Pity he couldn't keep the same line at PMQs - I support pay freezes until er I don't then I do again.

    When did he say he would reverse the impact of the pay freeze at PMQs? There are millions of public sector workers who would be delighted to hear of it.
    So he wasn't offering them any pay - just a platitude about being plucky for striking ?

    No wonder nobody rates him as a leader - wetter than a haddocks bathing costume.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    @TGOHF

    It's almost as if Ed is capable of taking an independent line that is the opposite of what the main trade unions donors to his party want!

    Pity he couldn't keep the same line at PMQs - I support pay freezes until er I don't then I do again.

    When did he say he would reverse the impact of the pay freeze at PMQs? There are millions of public sector workers who would be delighted to hear of it.
    So he wasn't offering them any pay - just a platitude about being plucky for striking ?

    No wonder nobody rates him as a leader - wetter than a haddocks bathing costume.
    You're getting all irate about Ed apparently flip-flopping when he never did - you just failed to understand what the strike he was commenting on at PMQs was about.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Scott_P said:

    @peterjukes: "All parties in Brooks and others to Court 12" - the tannoy goes at the Old Bailey #hackingtrial

    No need to get excited. The jury want to go home early - that is all!
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    FPT

    Having read a few articles, it sounds like I was wrong about the extent of pre-war industrialisation in Russia and the two Seans were right. There was a sudden push for industrialisation after 1890 and it happened across a number of cities. However, this was state-led push, and there was little return to the proletariat, which does suggest it wouldn't develop into a liberal state.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    @TGOHF

    It's almost as if Ed is capable of taking an independent line that is the opposite of what the main trade unions donors to his party want!

    Pity he couldn't keep the same line at PMQs - I support pay freezes until er I don't then I do again.

    When did he say he would reverse the impact of the pay freeze at PMQs? There are millions of public sector workers who would be delighted to hear of it.
    So he wasn't offering them any pay - just a platitude about being plucky for striking ?

    No wonder nobody rates him as a leader - wetter than a haddocks bathing costume.
    You're getting all irate about Ed apparently flip-flopping when he never did - you just failed to understand what the strike he was commenting on at PMQs was about.
    Not knowing what Ed stands for surely can't be a crime ? The whole nation is guilty.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    The Labour lead is down to five points in this week’s Ashcroft National Poll, conducted between Friday and Sunday. Labour are down two points to 33 per cent, with the Conservatives down one to 28 per cent, the Liberal Democrats up one to nine per cent and UKIP up two on 17 per cent. Other parties account for 14 per cent, including the Greens up one point on seven per cent.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Socrates said:

    FPT

    Having read a few articles, it sounds like I was wrong about the extent of pre-war industrialisation in Russia and the two Seans were right. There was a sudden push for industrialisation after 1890 and it happened across a number of cities. However, this was state-led push, and there was little return to the proletariat, which does suggest it wouldn't develop into a liberal state.

    My understanding from my graduate days, it was only England, and specifically the North of England that industrialised without state intervention.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    @TGOHF

    It's almost as if Ed is capable of taking an independent line that is the opposite of what the main trade unions donors to his party want!

    Pity he couldn't keep the same line at PMQs - I support pay freezes until er I don't then I do again.

    When did he say he would reverse the impact of the pay freeze at PMQs? There are millions of public sector workers who would be delighted to hear of it.
    So he wasn't offering them any pay - just a platitude about being plucky for striking ?

    No wonder nobody rates him as a leader - wetter than a haddocks bathing costume.
    You're getting all irate about Ed apparently flip-flopping when he never did - you just failed to understand what the strike he was commenting on at PMQs was about.
    Not knowing what Ed stands for surely can't be a crime ? The whole nation is guilty.
    Not knowing what Ed stands for is understandable, not knowing what you're talking about less so.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    1) I can't see Boris Johnson running for a third term unless he concludes in the next two or three months that David Cameron is secure in his job after May 2015. That seems an unlikely conclusion for him to reach. So I am not expecting Boris Johnson to run for a third term.

    2) The electorate for picking the Labour candidate is not the general electorate. The Labour electorate is going to have institutional candidates and Sadiq Khan looks especially well-placed in this regard. 8/1 remains good value on him.

    3) Note that Diane Abbott marginally outpolls Tessa Jowell among Labour supporters, which is a closer approximation to the electorate for this contest. I expect that this is about name recognition.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    Alastair "Hannibal" Cook needs to be replaced as Captain.

    He's worse than Crassus at Carrhae
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    antifrank said:

    The Labour electorate is going to have institutional candidates and Sadiq Khan looks especially well-placed in this regard.

    Is he definitely going to stand? If Labour are in Government he'll have a fairly senior Cabinet post, would he want to quit that for a chance to be London Mayor?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Neil said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I would infinitely prefer Tessa Jowell to Sadiq Khan. She knows how to work with people from across the political spectrum. Khan talks about quotas for ethnic minorities.

    I like her, she was responsible for bringing the Olympics to London.
    The same Jowell, who had no idea that a joint mortgage had been paid off by her husband?

    No thanks, London deserves someone a bit more 'clued up'.

    Well Lammy was hardly "clued up" when he appeared on Mastermind though his comments after the 2011 riots were thoughtful. Sadiq Khan has always been somewhat evasive about his friendship with Babar Ahmed, extradited to the US on terrorism charges. Adonis is probably the most thoughtful and clued up Labourite on the list but will never be chosen by the Labour electorate, sadly.

    Kate Hoey should give it a go.
    It's a shame that Frank Field, the only other Labour MP that many rightwingers can bring themselves to admit to liking, is based too far from London to give it a go.
    But closer to Manchester... *

    *(Yes, I know)
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Neil said:

    antifrank said:

    The Labour electorate is going to have institutional candidates and Sadiq Khan looks especially well-placed in this regard.

    Is he definitely going to stand? If Labour are in Government he'll have a fairly senior Cabinet post, would he want to quit that for a chance to be London Mayor?
    Mayor of London is a better job than most Cabinet ministerial positions.

    1) You can't be sacked by the party leader
    2) You have more profile.
    3) The jollies are better.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited June 2014
    Ashcroft National Poll: Con 28%, Lab 33%, Lib Dem 9%, UKIP 17% - from Lord Ashcroft Polls

    Labour down. Ukip Up.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    England 2.42 to chase 350. Where on earth does that price come from ?

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    antifrank said:

    Neil said:

    antifrank said:

    The Labour electorate is going to have institutional candidates and Sadiq Khan looks especially well-placed in this regard.

    Is he definitely going to stand? If Labour are in Government he'll have a fairly senior Cabinet post, would he want to quit that for a chance to be London Mayor?
    Mayor of London is a better job than most Cabinet ministerial positions.

    1) You can't be sacked by the party leader
    2) You have more profile.
    3) The jollies are better.
    They both sound like crap jobs to me but Cabinet minister seems less crap!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,336
    notme said:

    Socrates said:

    FPT

    Having read a few articles, it sounds like I was wrong about the extent of pre-war industrialisation in Russia and the two Seans were right. There was a sudden push for industrialisation after 1890 and it happened across a number of cities. However, this was state-led push, and there was little return to the proletariat, which does suggest it wouldn't develop into a liberal state.

    My understanding from my graduate days, it was only England, and specifically the North of England that industrialised without state intervention.
    Not to sound too parochial, but surely Lowland Scotland too? Or is there something I am missing?

    Of course, there was state oversight of transport links - canals and railways - but that was more as a referee of the scrum than an actual participant, I assume. Private Bills in Pmt for the routes.



  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    That ashcroft poll only goes to show how fluid things are, for me. Almost half the respondents said they might change their mind. Half of kippers might vote for another party. 63% of lib dems might switch.

    Talk about all to play for.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    The Sri Lankans are in a huddle. History beckons for them with 10 wickets. Rasitha: "Nice round target for England." Think they would have preferred the round figure of 100. Out come Cook and Robson...

    "Think they would have preferred the round figure of 100." Arf
  • TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neil said:

    @TGOHF

    It's almost as if Ed is capable of taking an independent line that is the opposite of what the main trade unions donors to his party want!

    Pity he couldn't keep the same line at PMQs - I support pay freezes until er I don't then I do again.

    When did he say he would reverse the impact of the pay freeze at PMQs? There are millions of public sector workers who would be delighted to hear of it.
    So he wasn't offering them any pay - just a platitude about being plucky for striking ?

    No wonder nobody rates him as a leader - wetter than a haddocks bathing costume.
    You're getting all irate about Ed apparently flip-flopping when he never did - you just failed to understand what the strike he was commenting on at PMQs was about.
    Not knowing what Ed stands for surely can't be a crime ? The whole nation is guilty.
    Trouble is Ed doesn't know either...
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Neil said:

    antifrank said:

    Neil said:

    antifrank said:

    The Labour electorate is going to have institutional candidates and Sadiq Khan looks especially well-placed in this regard.

    Is he definitely going to stand? If Labour are in Government he'll have a fairly senior Cabinet post, would he want to quit that for a chance to be London Mayor?
    Mayor of London is a better job than most Cabinet ministerial positions.

    1) You can't be sacked by the party leader
    2) You have more profile.
    3) The jollies are better.
    They both sound like crap jobs to me but Cabinet minister seems less crap!
    The only job in the cabinet worth having is DfID. Endless foreign travel, no spending limits and no actual goals to be achieved (other than giving away humongous great wads of cash). Crikey, its one long holiday on full pay and all expenses taken care of. Chuck out a tweet every now and then saying something vaguely feminist and that is it. Oh, and once every three months tell the UK press how you are determined to achieve value for money. Salary? £134k plus parliamentary expenses, plus free food and travel when on "Government Business".
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014
    By my reckoning England need to average 3.3 runs an over for over 100 overs to win from here. Not going to happen I am afraid. The only question is whether they can hold on for a draw and I don't fancy the chances of that either.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    This is outrageous:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-27972651

    Given the number of kids that get allowed weeks off school every year to go visit family in the subcontinent, it's outrageous that this child isn't allowed a single day for his mum's wedding.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Socrates said:

    This is outrageous:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-27972651

    Given the number of kids that get allowed weeks off school every year to go visit family in the subcontinent, it's outrageous that this child isn't allowed a single day for his mum's wedding.

    Why are you outraged? If you read the story, it seems a case of miscommunication that escalated too quickly.


  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    If anyone is thinking of buying me a birthday present.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27979108

    Don't trample each other in the rush.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Glad I had the balls to lay England at Evens. Madness in the price a few minutes ago.

    Paying off now.
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