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    FPT: Thanks Speedy, very helpful! You may have won me a vote...

    I'm guessing this is to do with council tax bands?

    There are websites out there which will give you an estimated 1991 price based on the current market price and the area. Searching for terms such as "council tax 1991 calculator" should yield relevant results.

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    JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    As long as don't have to eat the mars bar Smarmy. But I guess if I got 500 internetz I should be pepped up to eat it as a celebration. I like to celebrate with a pint or champers :/
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,317
    edited June 2014
    Speedy said:

    JBriskin said:

    While I have an amount of respect for your style Smarmy - I really think you need to delve a bit deeper with financials.

    Anyway, here's from what I was reading that should be more up your street -

    [The United Nations agency for displaced people said that 500,000 of Mosul’s two million residents had fled the city in the last several days for safety in the Kurdish autonomous region to the north. Thousands more are thought to have fled towards Baghdad.

    Save the Children described the exodus as one of the largest and swiftest mass movements of people in the world in recent memory. ]

    Berlin 1945 or Nanjing 1937 could be bigger.
    Or more properly flight/expulsions of the German population from East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia.
    Partition of India in 1947 was also another big one.
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    Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Reportedly a very senior official from Saddam's days is due to make an appearance in the 'liberated zone'
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    And some of our armchair historians should learn to distinguish between Blitzkrieg - a successful German mechanised warfare strategy of which air power was but an incidental part (and a term that Hitler personally disowned, btw) - and "the Blitz", the mass destruction of civilian, historic and cultural targets, begun by Churchill in 1940....
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Y0kel said:

    Reportedly a very senior official from Saddam's days is due to make an appearance in the 'liberated zone'

    Comical Ali?
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    Smarmy

    Ignore the IMF on the threat to the UK economy of house price inflation.

    It is a complex issue which the IMF has oversimplified.

    Better to read the page from ONS's recent Economic Review - June 2014 which has a series of one off analytic charts on the housing market.

    See here http://bit.ly/1jQZJG3

    Apart from highlighting the extreme difference of London from the rest of the UK, the most important chart is the last on the page. Here you will see that housing transactions are currently running at 50,000 per quarter which is a sixth of the peak volume of 300,000 recorded in Q1 2007.

    Then look at net lending which is currently £20bn or half of the its 2003-4 peak.

    The clear implication of this chart is that lack of volume sales, perhaps better expressed as existing owners' reluctance to sell, is the main factor which is currently driving prices up. More liquidity in the market is what is needed and given existing credit criteria and supply (which is relatively muted) house prices will respond with slower growth rates and possibly even a temporary downward correction in London.
    Smarmeron said:

    @JBriskin

    My bad, the Financial Times. This should be easier as it is a direct link.
    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/99548/the_financial_times_wednesday_11th_june_2014.html

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,317
    edited June 2014
    RodCrosby said:

    And some of our armchair historians should learn to distinguish between Blitzkrieg - a successful German mechanised warfare strategy of which air power was but an incidental part (and a term that Hitler personally disowned, btw) - and "the Blitz", the mass destruction of civilian, historic and cultural targets, begun by Churchill in 1940....

    We know you Germans started it - you invaded Poland!

    No invasion of Poland, no declaration of War, no Dresden. Simples.
    (and in fact the Germans bombed London first, before Churchill ordered raids on Berlin in 1940...)
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    Any PBer who has dreamt of owning a tropical island but worried that they couldn't afford both an island and a superyacht to get there, should consider this new all British design:

    http://bit.ly/1mJQLMF

    The owner's cabin suite is located in the volcano which provides the waterfall feed to the aft swimming pool.

    More pics here: http://bit.ly/1l2KFLQ

    Maybe suitable for an international thriller and travel writer in search of a romantic honeymoon?

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    JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited June 2014
    Ha ha - we need some hat links!! Me and Ms B were watching a tropical island film on freeview - and apart from deciding that the whole audience had just been effectively criminalised we deceided that all we'd have to worry about was toothache :/
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014

    RodCrosby said:

    And some of our armchair historians should learn to distinguish between Blitzkrieg - a successful German mechanised warfare strategy of which air power was but an incidental part (and a term that Hitler personally disowned, btw) - and "the Blitz", the mass destruction of civilian, historic and cultural targets, begun by Churchill in 1940....

    We know you Germans started it - you invaded Poland!

    No invasion of Poland, no declaration of War, no Dresden. Simples.
    Simples indeed!

    Aleksandr Russkie invaded Poland also in concert with the Germans, you forget...
    http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/soviet-german-soldiers-friendly-conversation-newly-captured-polish-city-brest-september-1939/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk

    Hitler was clearly Stalin's dupe.

    Discuss.


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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014
    'The German Air Force itself made the most of its contribution to victory in Poland and in doing so helped to nurture the myth of Warsaw's destruction from the air. The propaganda arm produced the film Baptism of Fire (Feuertaufe), a documentary deliberately designed to present to the German public and to foreign audiences the image of awesome aerial power exerted against the unfortunate Poles. In November 1939 the new Reich Commissar of the Polish ‘General-Government', Hans Frank, hosted neutral diplomats and military attaches formerly accredited to Warsaw at a reception in the former capital. In his address he asked them to examine closely the extensive bomb damage in Warsaw (it was claimed that out of 17,000 buildings only 300 had escaped unscathed); as a result of their observations he suggested they should ‘recommend to their respective Governments to intercede for peace'. By February 1940 Mussolini was openly talking of the 40,000 Poles who he claimed had died in the ruins of Warsaw, though only 12 per cent of the city had been destroyed or seriously damaged, and not all of that was due to bombing. The Hitler regime was happy to make political capital out of the bombing, just as the German Air Force clearly exploited the Polish campaign to enhance its own political weight and strategic status alongside the German Army. Yet the fact remains that the air campaign in Poland was a model of the operational air warfare elaborated before 1939, with air forces closely supporting the land campaign by destroying (with a wide margin of error) military, industrial and infrastructure targets designed to weaken Polish military resistance - and not an example of ruthless Douhetism.'
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014
    Overy goes on:-

    'As the German armies closed the ring around Warsaw and the nearby fortress at Modlin, the air forces were ordered to bomb enemy troop concentrations in and around the city, but not to attack ‘the streaming columns of refugees' on the roads leaving the Polish capital. On 16 September the Polish commander in Warsaw was given six hours to surrender. He refused, declaring the capital to be a ‘special military zone', and as a result German planes dropped leaflets warning the population to leave. As Warsaw was a defended city, it was legitimate for German air forces to join the German Army artillery in the siege. On 22 September Hitler ordered the final liquidation of Polish resistance in Warsaw, including air strikes on important military and economic targets, as well as buildings housing the military and political authorities. The German Foreign Office requested that the air force make every effort to avoid damaging the Belvedere Palace; Hitler ordered special care to be taken not to hit the Soviet diplomats leaving the city after the Soviet invasion of eastern Poland on 17 September. On 25 September there was extensive incendiary bombing and heavy damage to the centre of Warsaw in an attack which dropped some 632 tonnes of bombs, the largest air attack made by any air force until then. Troops of the German Third Army were killed when German aircraft strayed too far into areas already occupied by German forces, and on 26 September all bombing ceased. The following morning Warsaw surrendered. The air attacks on Warsaw were designed to speed up the capitulation of the armed forces defending the city, but no more than that. When Colonel Wolfram von Richthofen, designated ‘Air Leader for Special Tasks' (Fliegerfuhrer zur besonderen Verfugung) and a veteran of the Guernica bombing, requested annihilating attacks on the whole urban area, the German Air Force chief of staff, Colonel-General Hans Jeschonnek, refused.'
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    JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    (About three threads ago)

    Someone mentioned the programme about David Beckham going to Brazil and the Guardian mentioning his mispronunciation of "fillet". The review which confused me was that of the Metro, which said

    What’s even more surprising is just how Essex their voices have remained despite their stint in LA and their decades rubbing shoulders with the upper classes. Brooklyn, however, has an American twang to his voice that will take you utterly by surprise.

    It was clear from the programme that Brooklyn does NOT have (even a slight trace of) an American accent; furthermore, it would NOT be surprising if he did.

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/09/why-david-beckhams-into-the-unknown-documentary-is-the-best-thing-youll-see-this-year-4755500/
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    JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    It occurs to me that there is usually more of a WTF-OMG-No! reaction when a celebrity in their 50s dies suddenly than when a celebrity in their 20s dies suddenly. Compare and contrast Rik Mayall & Bob Crow with Peaches Geldof & Amy Winehouse.
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