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Lord Oakeshott resigned today from the Lib Dems following the publication of those polls. He said “I am sure the party is heading for disaster if it keeps Nick Clegg; and I must not get in the way of the many brave Liberal Democrats fighting for change”
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Lord Oakeshott, more Scooby Doo villain than Moriarty, helps Clegg by trying to destroy him http://www.conservativehome.com/leftwatch/2014/05/lord-oakeshott-more-scooby-doo-villain-than-moriarty-helps-clegg-by-trying-to-destroy-him.html …
It can't have done him any favours.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/27/watch-tony-blair-destroy-nigel-farage_n_5396409.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
@LordAshcroft @shanegreer When I saw Vince and Oakeshott plotting together in Peers guest room Simon Hughes was with them!
Lord Foulkes is a Labour Party life peer – (caveat) can he be trusted..?
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As far as I can tell, Inverness Town Hall hasn't got a clock.
So that would be one face, then !!On a point of pedantry -
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inverness_clock_tower.JPG
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-independent-scotland-worse/18335
The only outright 'Fiction' is Eck's:
“This leaves the Treasury claims about Scotland’s finances without a shred of credibility.”
No. The UK government paper mentions the Dunleavy research, but does not rely on it. It puts the cost of setting up a new independent state at £1.5bn, at the high end of an estimate produced by Canadian academic Robert Young.
Even if that number proved to be much too high, it wouldn’t put much of a dent in the £1,400. Professor Dunleavy’s comments are embarrassing for the Treasury, but they don’t undermine the whole analysis.
And the conclusion:
But spending is higher, and the challenges of an ageing population, the uncertainty over currency and a probable long-term decline in oil receipts are all real concerns......
This is why so many independent economists are significantly more pessimistic than the Scottish government’s rose-tinted view of things.
BREAKING: Malcolm Glazer, owner of both Manchester United and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, dies at 85, the Bucs announce.
Your comments about vibrant ecosystems and sustainable development being at the heart of countryside management are frankly risible to anyone with a real understanding of the environmental holocaust our countryside has suffered since the war. It's the arrogance of those that think the only people who know and understand the countryside are farmers and land managers that is the real arrogance here.
FWIW, we've farmed the same land for about 300 years (apart from the bit we gave to the National Trust). We've got quite a reputation for the effort we've put into developing the landscape during the period - and only now is the true vision being fulfilled.
So, with the exception of a slightly unhealthy obsession with trees, I'd say we have a very good understanding of what goes on in the countryside. And I'm not a fan of agribusinesses as a rule.
The locals in Malta were fairly highly charged about the EURO elections, but they are a major net cash receiver and everywhere you go there are building works that state "part funded by the European Union" I think its about 85%. No wonder the locals love the gravy train and we over here don't like the money leaking abroad..
Finally...
Gatwick is bidding for a second runway, They certainly should not get it since they seem unable to manage the single one they currently operate... WTF is waiting 15 mins to even et off the plane and 40 mins plus waiting to know what number your luggage carousel is... that's before any luggage materialises... worse than useless.... and at a time when there's little traffic about.
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/knights-of-st-john.html
As UKIP helps these eurpphile lib dems stay in office by splitting the opposition vote in their constituencies?
>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inverness_clock_tower.JPG
On a point of Geography, *that* clock is not on the Town Hall.
It is at least 20m down the road on the other side.
;-)
Frankly the poor thing is in a state of shock after the past few days internals and requires a well overdue rest after tomorrows publication and next weeks first outing of the "JackW Dozen"
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7221
There is broad agreement over two key facts. Public spending per capita is significantly higher in Scotland than in the UK as a whole. At the same time onshore tax revenues per capita are similar – in fact a little lower in Scotland.
The main point of disagreement is the different forecasts for revenues from North Sea oil and gas used. Our figures and the Treasury’s figures are based on the Office for Budget Responsibility’s projections. The Scottish Government report instead uses their own – higher – forecasts for North Sea revenues.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP
EDIT: Nige is going to team up with Grillo instead
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Farage-and-Italy-s-Beppe-Grillo-may-defeat-Cameron-s-plans
Hold all bets.
http://stephentall.org/2014/05/28/why-i-am-one-of-the-39-of-lib-dem-members-who-thinks-nick-clegg-should-stand-down-as-leader/
As for Cable.He has proved himself worse than useless, which will either mean he will be elected as leader or,as he should,be put out to grass to while away his remaining years.
We landed at 1.05am but didn't get back to the car till gone 2.30 am..
One thing to note, if you of a certain age.. late night and early morning flights are OUT.. Pay up for the comfort.
Then resign? Why? Either he has a valid point and he's leading the internal fight to replace Clegg or he's on a vendetta and will walk when pushed. I guess we know now. Isn't the problem who has commissioned the polls? Oakshott isn't exactly someone popular in the LibDem grass roots.....
No, stop, there is no difference. People either pretend there is for humour or tribal political advantage, or they believe it and are idiots.
But if you want a basic point, the LDs could well be there for people who don't want to play into the absurd two party system Labour and the Tories wish we had. The LDs are not the option of choice among those people anymore, UKIP is and well done them, but they still are for a minority, and that's as valid a reason for them to be around as any other party, given the lack of ideological basis for the parties thesedays.
http://news.sky.com/story/1270908/manchester-united-owner-malcolm-glazer-dies
Leaving with the maximum damage to the LibDems may have been the plan all along, perhaps even with the hope of Cable following.
For the history of the place, Knights, St Paul, WW2, etc. I'd recommend The Kappillan of Malta (set during WW2) by Nicholas Monsarrat, who retired to Gozo.
http://www.stuffa.co.uk/en/
If only to annoy the Ryanair staff!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/27605850
Would've gotten good odds on that, I'd suspect.
On a few occasions with only hand luggage and the chauffeur pick-up I've been home within a smidge of 30 minutes of landing.
Heathrow and a decent run on the M25/M1 can take under an hour after 11pm and before 6am.
I agree, however, that the grouping system seems designed to assist the federalists.
Labour and Tories both committed to ear in Iraq with Kennedy leading a principles and concienced stand against.
Problem is that this is in the past. Clegg is the establishment leading an establishment party with establishment policies. As is Cameron. As was Blair. You could take most of the ministerial teams of those three men and stick them in one party and they'd all be quite happy. Identikit politicians with identical policies. UKIP have become the new alternative even though Farage is also establishment.
LibDems look back at this recent past and wonder what went wrong. And its a simple answer. Nick Clegg. You got bought, co-opted and enslaved. He has to go.
For f*cks sake, calm down. It is the very fact that I enjoy your writings that the laziness of your post struck me, because it wasn't even entertaining (you might disagree, and so might the majority for all I know, but I am allowed to have an opinion am I not, your majesty?).
Are you honestly saying that you spewing 'I hate the LDs, they really turrible, die die die, my gods I have an erection at the thought' is comparable to your paid work as you give examples of? Unless your best work is free (possible, but unlikely I would venture), I doubt that is so, and why should it be? No need to break out the good stuff to weirdos on a political blog, but apparently that means no-one can call your sh*t 'sh*t', but must call it gold.
He won a leadership election. He led the party to government for the first time (in its current form).
I'm not a Clegg fan, and especially loathe his attitude towards those who commit heresy against the all-powerful EU, but he's not the devil incarnate.
That is on a par with Bond's idiotic attempts to try and sabotage UKIP by voting for BNP-lite.
"I wrote Blair a private letter a week before the invasion and said "I think you're right". With the benefit of hindsight that looks like a mistake. The war was not the problem. I personally think the war was probably justified - still." http://www.totalpolitics.com/print/1818/in-conversation-with-paddy-ashdown.thtml
The Huffington Post making itself look silly, referencing that quote as Blair "destroying" UKIP. Here is what he said:
"This is the year 2005, not 1945. We're not fighting each other anymore."
Of course we're not fighting each other. That doesn't mean we need to politically integrate with each other or pay for poorer countries' sewer systems.
"These are our partners, our colleagues and our future lies in Europe."
An absurdly circular argument. "Our future is in Europe because these are our EU partners. We should be in Europe because our future is in Europe." It's a completely meaningless statement.
"We get Europe that's unified after years of dictatorship."
Europe is not unified, and the only way it would happen is with another dictatorship.
"we get economic development in countries we have championed. "
Thanks to market democracy, not thanks to the EU. Otherwise, how have Canada, Australia, Switzerland and Norway done so well?
"We get a future reform that allows once and for all to put an end to discussion about rebates, Common Agricultural Policy and get a proper reform budget for Europe."
Hahahaha. Why on Earth would the europhile HuffPo include this in there? This was the budget where Blair sold out our rebate for empty promises on the CAP that never came through. It shows how Blair's dreams of reform turned out to be the misguided loss of money that Farage said at the time.
You are not PAID to be a politician, so clearly your views on their creep factor is meaningless when compared to someone who is PAID to be a politician. Fortuantely I imagine many might agree they as a group are often creepy, so I guess you being PAID or not PAID does not matter in this instance.
"If so Clegg would appear to have an organised and well-funded rebellion on his hands"
- Mike Smithson, May 27th 2014
A day is a long time in politics.
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YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead up two to four points: CON 32%, LAB 36%, LD 9%, UKIP 14%
Maybe Oakeshott had given him tips on goalkeeping?
Am I allowed to say that Mr SeanT, sir? I know your intent was to annoy me, because it is fun to know mere word were able to enrage another person so, and so would love to pretend I was not, but as I do still enjoy politics, it is clear I must run everything by a professional first if I am to venture an opinion. Ah I know, I will accuse someone of impotence or something and PUT THINGS in all caps while boasting about my bank balance (admittedly that part will require embellishment)
Enjoy your victory ('can't take a joke/insult', 'pathetic' 'look how successful I am' pick whatever dismissive phrasing you like, though I am sure you can come up with better)
Co-opted. With Blair having done so well for Labour (by converting them to establishment policies) and Cameron leading the Tories, the LibDems vote in their clone.
Enslaved. Clegg wins the election and promptly tears up not only their policies that was the basis of their election but agrees to support literally anything they re asked to support. The deal is they'll claim to make the Tories less worse than they would have been (is yes we know we just shot you three times so you died, but the Tories wanted to shoot you a 4th time and we saved you). LibDems promptly lose 30-40% of contested council seats in 2011. And 2012. And 2013. And 2014. And 91% of their MEPs. Still they remaining LibDems cling to the means of their destruction.
Are you sure he isn't the devil? He's sure killed the LibDems. And he isn't even one of them.
Funny how nobody said that when Alexander was 1/2 FAV.
But Scotland did make it 2-1 courtesy of an og!
Ended 2-2
But he obviously has deep affection for the Lib Dems and has dedicated much of his life to the party. So given his moves, topped off with labelling Clegg a "disaster", I wonder if he just has a visceral, emotional dislike of Clegg or - and I suspect this is more likely the case - believes that the party should've behaved differently post GE2010 election and blames Clegg for it.
And this is the thing that gets me with the agitating Lib Dem types like Oakeshott. What does he want? What would he have preferred Clegg to when faced with a coalition? Is he immature enough to only desire Lib Dem/Labour coalitions? Or is he arrogant enough to believe - with less than 60 seats - that they should've held more sway over the Tories in government?
It'd be really interesting to know his thoughts.
Perhaps, like many supposed Lib Dem supporters, he would've just preferred the popular policies of oppositionhood all his life.
I remember having a conversation with Mr Divvie, when trying to work out who was best placed to defeat the Lib Dems there, via his uncle who lived in the seat.
I particularly remember his uncle's view on Salmond.
It does seem odd however that a rant about how the LDs should die for being so terrible (be it the truth as one sees it or not) is the height of serenity, yet an insistent refutation of that is the sign of a moronic dribbler, and of course calling someone a moronic dribbler is itself calmness personified.
I suspect you miss arguing with someone/s who can match your level of entertaining inventive bile, but I regret I do not have the energy for that at the best of times, so must prove a dissatisfaction in this matter. Perhaps someone else can pick up the slack with greater enthusiasm than I.
And yes, I know I am pompous, thank you. If you cannot be pompous and tedious on an internet politcal blog, where can you be? Honestly. If I cared about boring people with my opinions I'd always be silent. We cannot all be fire and brimstone with our views, you know.
Before the tories start talking about GE election victories,it would help if they could hit 36% and above first ;-)
Plus a few months of sustained Tory leads right now would be problematic for us in the long term
1) Labour might ditch Ed at the conference
2) It might end the Union
You could try the interrobang, which is a question mark and exclamation mark combined in a single glyph. It was originally designed to denote a rhetorical question but has broadened into use also to denote irony.
Here is its history according to Wikipedia:
American Martin K. Speckter conceptualized the interrobang in 1962. As the head of an advertising agency, Speckter believed that advertisements would look better if copywriters conveyed surprised rhetorical questions using a single mark. He proposed the concept of a single punctuation mark in an article in the magazine TYPEtalks. Speckter solicited possible names for the new character from readers. Contenders included rhet, exclarotive, and exclamaquest, but he settled on interrobang. He chose the name to reference the punctuation marks that inspired it: interrogatio is Latin for "a rhetorical question" or "cross-examination"; bang is printers' slang for the exclamation mark. Graphic treatments for the new mark were also submitted in response to the article.
Recent Microsoft fonts (Calibri, Cambria etc) have included the glyph at U+203D ‽ interrobang (HTML: ‽). Here is a rather beautiful rendering in Hermann Zapf's 1950s typeface Palatino:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Interrobang.svg
I do prefer
*Innocent Face*
No ones ever got in trouble for using that have they?
Ah Vince. One pathetic vain little weasel with a political reputation for apparent economic brilliance that is on a par in the complete myth stakes with that of a Mr Gordon Brown.
Seriously Lib Dems, whatever you do with Nick Clegg, Cable is not your future. He has no cojones whatsoever.
Bangkok, night life capital of the world, has been feeling the squeeze the hardest. Five-star hotels are offering special rates for tourists and promotions to entice locals to spend the night after coming for drinks or dinner, and avoid rushing home for curfew.
The city usually comes to life at night and glows with hedonistic abandon, but for the past few days, the Thai capital’s usually packed concrete canyons have been largely deserted, its countless bars, clubs, shops and restaurants closed in line with the military’s orders."
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