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No EU referendum from Lab – EdM making this the big divider for GE2015. goo.gl/xFQSK twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/st…
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Miliband rules out EU ... don't care.
Miliband rules out referendum ... care very much. Witness UKIP
Although I'm not particularly bothered by Europe, I would be annoyed, now that the subject is in the news, if EdM deems me too incompetent to decide.
Surely, he'd do better to make his case and win the verdict.
Posh, metropolitan elite - they think they're better than we are.
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By making this a "clear dividing line" between Labour and Tories, EdM will obviously be hoping that no-one notices Labour's acceptance of 95% of the Coalition's policies.
Iceland had a crisis a while back - should we have left the IMF and the UN?
Most people are unaware of the issues at stake and tend to react in a partisan manner instead of considering the benefits and disadvantages of EU membership.
If both main parties committed to a referendum then there'd be no reason to vote Tory if you wanted one.
well Labour are Tories as well now so no difference, unless you are a sandal wearer
In 2015 there will be a concrete difference between the two parties. Cameron promises a referendum, Miliband does not. This could make it seem more important in voter's minds.
What must be rubbed in again and again is that Edward Miliband doesn't trust the British people with a referendum. Who the hell does he think he is ?
It certainly isn't the EU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_attendances_of_European_football_clubs
Celtic are in fifth place in the UK, behind Man U, Arsenal, Newcastle and Man City. Rangers are in sixth. of the 70 European clubs shown, two are in the Scottish league and seventeen are English.
During the battle, UKIP spies managed to steal secret plans to the EU's ultimate weapon, the
TECHNOCRAT, an armoured space station with enough power to destroy an entire member state.
Pursued by the EU's sinister agents, Princess Nigel races home aboard his starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save his people and restore freedom to the Continent....
You're deaf to me but at least you should listen to your leader , Salmond , in his keynote " Celtic Lion " speech ;
"of course we Scots are lucky enough to have the one of the best brands in the world - a global recognition and affection for our culture that money cannot buy. Take financial services. With RBS and HBOS - two of the world's biggest banks - Scotland has global leaders today, tomorrow and for the long-term."
Cameron did not promise a referendum because he really wants one - he was forced to promise it because of pressure from his party and because of the weakness of his own position. The political circumstances are almost exactly the same as those which forced Harold Wilson to promise a referendum in the 1970s. The issue is being driven primarily by internal party politics - most people do not care much about Europe as the polls show.
The prudent thing (as an individual, although in aggregate not helpful for the economy) is to take the savings from low interest rates and use them to pay down debts, starting with the most expensive.
Abercowny Labour selected Mary Wimbury to be their 2015 candidate. I think she's the wife of Tal Michael (failed PCC candidate and shortlisted candidate for Arfon) who is the son of Alun Michael
On another news, Christine Spriggs got selected in Wirral West.
Did she get selected from one of Labour's "all family members" shortlists?
Malcolm , do you remember this ?
In May 2007, just days after taking office, the First Minister wrote to Goodwin about the possible deal on ABN, which was then the subject of huge speculation in the City.
“I wanted you to know that I am watching events closely on the ABN front,” Salmond said. “It is in Scottish interests for RBS to be successful, and I would like to offer any assistance my office can provide. Yours for Scotland , Alex "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9520585
@Malcolm
Found some figs. on Wiki.
Average gates for EPL this season so far 35,878
SPL only 9,815.
One of whom being that well known Englishman, Fred Goodwin, born Paisley, Renfrewshire.
Point me to a leading polling figure who takes your view.
Lord Ascroft has got this right.
Average gates for EPL this season so far 35,878
SPL only 9,815.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Premier_League
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Scottish_Premier_League
Yes, it's Labour who are struggling right now and getting desperate. Yep. No doubt about it. Totally. 100%
Sunil, vegetarianism is perverted.
Assuming Milliband's been reported correctly, that's a good thing. It's important that one's opponent (particularly one as weird and odd as he is) be out of touch with public opinion.
In this economy you take any job going I guess, and if someone is silly enough to offer it, you go for it.
Yes, he's such an "EU establishment figure" that he's currently the Deputy Prime Minister of the most anti-European government in decades.
When you remove these clubs (and from time to time they threaten to join the English league as "better together") the size of crowds in other SPL clubs is quite low. An average of less than 9 000 is little more than half the crowd in the English Championship, and on par with the third tier of English football both in terms of crowd and quality.
My SCottish team is Ross County as my ancestors came from there, and in the SPL they get a home crowd of 3-4000 or so.
Wigan looking good, grinding down City.
2) People do care aboit immigration and employment and with the free movement of Labour within the EU the two issues are inextricably linked
3) Whilst one can perhaps argue that people don't care about Europe they do very much care about their country and the loss of parliamentary sovereignty with its implications for government facilitating a prosperous economy is a key issue for many now that it has become clear that the EU has significant influence on our prosperity (the government have been blaming them for at least two years).
Ganesh is a condescending (little people for gods sake!) disingenuous fool (and another of the multitude of Westminster Freakshow gifts for UKIP)!
OOOPs you did not , 10 times population , 3.5 times the gate , oh dear
Actually that's separation rather than unionism.
People know Labour favours membership. Much better to say sorry, guys, we're not going to flirt with withdrawal in any way, and move on.