Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
I am certain they wouldn't have been downplaying the possibility of it being a politically-motivated attack had the victim been a Labour politician.
Even if that isn't true, that the perception exists is a problem.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
It did seem unlikely that a lone idiot suddenly jumped in his car and drove from Rotherham to Devon on a whim. If it turns out that he was repeatedly reported to Prevent or other services but no one acted, then lessons definitely haven't been learned.
A loner with mental health problems is a prime candidate for a bit of online grooming. But by whom?
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
I am certain they wouldn't have been downplaying the possibility of it being a politically-motivated attack had the victim been a Labour politician.
Even if that isn't true, that the perception exists is a problem.
I'm even questioning how this story broke. I did think what was happening on GB News (my parents have it on...) was strange. I kept thinking "I mean, she was 78, and no matter how good you think her health was, anyone can keel over."
But I now think they all knew what was going on and knew what was coming. Quite how it took so long for the police to confirm she'd been murdered, I don't know.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
Many years ago I used to watch Rugby Special. If they showed a kick at goal (conversion or penalty) then you knew it was going over, so there was no point watching it and no point showing it, kind of...
This is like the current situation where police now rush to tell us that suspects are white, British, men, except when they don't say anything. So people (including the racist right) jump to conclusions. They are stuck now, as if they say nothing, assumptions are made.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
No, you just don't speculate on anything. Just say you're investigating and all lines of enquiry remain open.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
I have just completed some online Terrorism training ahead of graduation this week. I can confirm that the Brize Norton affair very definitely does fit the accepted definition of terrorism. And the old grannies with 'I support Palestine Action' posters do not.
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
It did seem unlikely that a lone idiot suddenly jumped in his car and drove from Rotherham to Devon on a whim. If it turns out that he was repeatedly reported to Prevent or other services but no one acted, then lessons definitely haven't been learned.
A loner with mental health problems is a prime candidate for a bit of online grooming. But by whom?
The internet really was a bad idea, wasn't it.
The credulous have been groomed to die for the cause du jour for a very long time.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Really interesting short (2m) interview with Palmer Luckey from Anduril, who’s trying to do with military procurement in the US what the Ukranians are doing.
Tl:dr you make missiles out of already-available components, and go for volume over cutting-edge technology, that can be manufactured on existing industrial production lines.
Olly Robbins mounting legal challenge to his dismissal (Sky)
I'd have thought he'd win quite easily given the facts.
Robbins decided on his own initiative and contrary to normal practice to ignore vetting on Mandelson and didn't tell his boss. Then it went pear shaped. I would expect to be sacked in those circumstances.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a haggle and a relatively modest settlement.
Starmer doesn't come out of the episode well either. A score draw I think.
The real problem is that politicians want plausible deniability for the decisions they take. What do you think would have happened if Robbins had done the full deep dive and presented the result to Starmer? His career would have been cooked, and we all know it.
Reminds me of Nimrod, Haddon-Cave and the aftermath
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Right now, legislation making it the default that elected politicians’ addresses are withheld rather than published is being implemented up and down the country, from Parliament down to parish and town councils. The default is now that councils and Parliament won’t publish politicians’ addresses, even within their register of interests where property they own where they reside will be redacted, and any politician that is happy for their home address to be published has to proactively insist that this be done.
I understand why this is being done but, particularly at local council level, feel that it’s a regrettable step. Anyone seriously motivated enough to do the preparation for and take the risk of the consequences from killing a politician will surely be determined enough to uncover where they live or frequent; meanwhile ordinary voters are deprived of knowing where the people elected to represent them actually live.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
I have just completed some online Terrorism training ahead of graduation this week. I can confirm that the Brize Norton affair very definitely does fit the accepted definition of terrorism. And the old grannies with 'I support Palestine Action' posters do not.
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
I’m sure it fits the definition in the Terrorism Act, which is so wide to make it meaningless.
Targeted action against politicians or military sites is not designed to coerce the general population through fear, which is what I and most people consider it to be.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
All the evidence on Friday pointed in one direction - it's only now that they've discovered a very different picture.
And the last thing we want is everything being initially terrorism when it usually isn't - heck it make sense that it was previously a robbery or similar that went wrong.
Tbf to the police, this is one of the reasons (along with the possibility of it adversely complicating any trial of the perpetrator) that they ask the public not to speculate about the case.
AFAICS, both Hodges and Farage have been doing that (though we should allow for the likelihood that Farage is going to be personally affected by the shocking killing of someone he knows well; whatever else we might think of him, he's human too).
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
No, you just don't speculate on anything. Just say you're investigating and all lines of enquiry remain open.
Yes, that’s what I’m suggesting. Though I wouldn’t even say that, because you’d get idiots saying “it’s obviously political, it’s a cover up!”
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
Many years ago I used to watch Rugby Special. If they showed a kick at goal (conversion or penalty) then you knew it was going over, so there was no point watching it and no point showing it, kind of...
This is like the current situation where police now rush to tell us that suspects are white, British, men, except when they don't say anything. So people (including the racist right) jump to conclusions. They are stuck now, as if they say nothing, assumptions are made.
And all the political parties will be praying that, who will surely turn out to be some random loner nutter, hasn’t had any past connections with them.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
I have just completed some online Terrorism training ahead of graduation this week. I can confirm that the Brize Norton affair very definitely does fit the accepted definition of terrorism. And the old grannies with 'I support Palestine Action' posters do not.
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
I do hope the Ministry of Defence have now managed to stockpile oodles of that magic plane destroying paint.
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
I was reading about that case.
If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
It’s a consequence of legal cases of gamblers claiming back losses because bookies should have known they had not the means to bet with . I am afraid when the law intervenes all the fun stops as the bookies now need to be financial auditors of peoples wealth . Too much case law and too much regulation will kill lawful bookmaking
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
I was reading about that case.
If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
More importantly, shouldn't Bet365 be in trouble for not doing better checks on money laundering (I'd have thought that would be a much bigger risk here).
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
For the same reason they immediately announce ethnicity. The most opportune time to kick off a race riot is immediately after the event while emotions are high.
It’s been quite effective this time round IMO, but in the long term it’s a stupid policy because people will just say “remember Widdecombe”.
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
I was reading about that case.
If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
The regulator is half the problem by insisting on KYC and AML and affordability checks with 7-figure fines dished out. It is not as if a £20,000 payout will dent Bet365's bottom line. What the Gambling Commission should do is have these tests completed beforehand, not after the results are in.
Trouble is the GC is more of an anti-gambling commission run by people who know nothing about gambling alongside those who think it the invention of the devil.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
it turns out that rape is marginally less evil than using the word deplorable or being a woman
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
I have just completed some online Terrorism training ahead of graduation this week. I can confirm that the Brize Norton affair very definitely does fit the accepted definition of terrorism. And the old grannies with 'I support Palestine Action' posters do not.
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
I’m sure it fits the definition in the Terrorism Act, which is so wide to make it meaningless.
Targeted action against politicians or military sites is not designed to coerce the general population through fear, which is what I and most people consider it to be.
It was targeted for political ends though. Just because you have your definition of terrorism, it doesn't make you right.
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
I was reading about that case.
If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
More importantly, shouldn't Bet365 be in trouble for not doing better checks on money laundering (I'd have thought that would be a much bigger risk here).
AML will be the regulator's line. Bookies will also worry that shrewd punters, who have previously been barred for winning too often, might be using mugs' accounts to get their bets on.
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
If there was equally no evidence to suggest that it wasn't terrorism then the statement, while true, is misleading. It would be clearer to say that they have no evidence as to the motive.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
The big issue now is also not only are people's homes on Google StreetView (you can ask for it to be blurred) but with AI you don't need that many images to be able to have a detector find properties with similar features. And if that house has ever been for sale on RightMove etc, it can all be married up.
Ireland's datacentres now consume nearly a quarter of nation's electricity
Increase happened despite 2021 halt on grid connections for new datacentres in Dublin
This also shows the vacuity of British Prime Ministers saying we will become the European leader for AI and making no plans to improve the national grid or water supplies. We are ruled by politicians who believe in magic. Wishing for things is not the same as making them happen.
What does @Richard_Tyndall make of the geological claims about similarity to Norway ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c621m9l1qr1o ..Future Works said about 20,000 vehicles currently travel across the Peak District each day, including large numbers of lorries. They argue that road links between Manchester and Sheffield are inadequate, with many motorists forced to take lengthy diversions. The group said a tunnel would improve connections between two of the largest cities in the north of England while reducing traffic impacts on the national park. The project would also involve moving existing electricity infrastructure, which campaigners have said could clear the way for the restoration of the Woodhead rail route between Manchester and Sheffield. Norway model The idea of a trans-Pennine tunnel has been considered before, but concerns over cost have prevented it from progressing. The project's backers said it could be funded without direct support from Westminster. Future Works said a previous government assessment estimated a tunnel could cost £10.6bn using conventional UK construction methods, including large tunnel-boring machines. The group is instead proposing the use of a "drill-and-blast" tunnelling technique commonly used in Norway. Supporters of the approach said it relies on smaller specialist teams and the natural strength of the surrounding rock, reducing costs significantly. The organisation estimates that, based on Scandinavian construction costs, the tunnel could be built for less than £2bn, with savings helping to fund the reinstatement of the Woodhead railway. They said the tunnel costs could be recouped through tolls over time...
Personally I very much agree. It does depend on the rock types but the core of the pennines is millstone grit and carboniferous limestone. Both would be well suited to blasting.
As an aside I started my geology career working as a shotfirer for Tarmac up at Middleton Limestone mine above Wirksworth in Derbyshire. There we blasted tunnels to form a pillar and stall system large enough to drive RD140 dumper trucks through (they are the really big bastards)
So yes. blasting tunnels through the stuff is very effective.
That was gut feeling, but I'm glad to have it confirmed by someone who knows what they're talking about. Thanks.
The economic benefits would be very significant for the region.
Burnham should fast track this through planning, as the environmental arguments favour it, too.
100% agree. And give it enough capacity to deal with future growth.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Unfortunately for Hodges, he's going to come out of this looking quite bad. Whether it's fair or not, he looks like he's been downplaying what always looked the most likely outcome of the investigation.
And the police have behaved appallingly.
The police should simply have said that they didn't know. Instead, they said, "we don't know, but we're confident it's not political or terrorist." Which makes them look like idiots when they find evidence that shows different.
If you don't know, say so.
Did they say that? The statements were “no evidence to suggest”. They’ve probably got into his phone/laptop and now find that there is evidence.
That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
(As a minor note, this doesn’t really feel like the common understanding of terrorism . It’s an alleged political assassination, Brize Norton was probably Treason etc etc)
I have just completed some online Terrorism training ahead of graduation this week. I can confirm that the Brize Norton affair very definitely does fit the accepted definition of terrorism. And the old grannies with 'I support Palestine Action' posters do not.
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
I do hope the Ministry of Defence have now managed to stockpile oodles of that magic plane destroying paint.
There are plenty of household chemicals which would write off a jet engine if poured into it, if only because no one will be willing to sign on the dotted line to say the engine is OK to use afterwards.
The normal challenge when using them as offensive weapons is getting close enough to apply them, rather than their efficacy on application.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
The big issue now is also not only are people's homes on Google StreetView (you can ask for it to be blurred) but with AI you don't need that many images to be able to have a detector find properties with similar features. And if that house has ever been for sale on RightMove etc, it can all be married up.
Not to mention that so many celebrities phone the magazines and Sunday papers whenever they move.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Under what law?
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
I was reading about that case.
If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
It’s a consequence of legal cases of gamblers claiming back losses because bookies should have known they had not the means to bet with . I am afraid when the law intervenes all the fun stops as the bookies now need to be financial auditors of peoples wealth . Too much case law and too much regulation will kill lawful bookmaking
Which in reality does nothing except drive the serious money offshore into unregulated spaces.
It’s the same reasoning against banning pharmacies from selling canaboids, MDMA, and amphetamines.
There is, however, extensive employment law precedent for losing your job because you were a jerk in public and identifiable as working for your employer.
People are just on here being radically deconstructive twatfaces about it.
I know, let's fucking solve crimes in micro fucking seconds so all the Alan Partridge A-HA I-knew--fucking-better fuckers can just fuck right back off under their fucking rocks.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
Isn't kicking someone in the bollocks (and then running) part of self-defence advice? In the context provided I would say that was arguable, particularly as it was presented as a last resort option.
There's certainly no equivalence with calling for an asylum seeker hotel to be burned down.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
Trump's racking up his innocent civilian numbers, maybe not as fast as Putin, Netanyahu, etc etc but he's in the race.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
Isn't kicking someone in the bollocks (and then running) part of self-defence advice? In the context provided I would say that was arguable, particularly as it was presented as a last resort option.
There's certainly no equivalence with calling for an asylum seeker hotel to be burned down.
Especially since burning down a residential has a very, very non-trivial possibility of killing someone. To the point that in a number of countries, arson was traditionally treated like murder.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Under what law?
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
I don't know about that case, however I note that the Contempt of Court Act 1981 might apply to some things that have been said online. It's illegal to publish anything that might prejudice a trial. Applies as soon as someone is arrested.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
I'm not happy calling anyone a rapist based on a trial where "prepoderance of the evidence" is the standard.
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
Pity the poor burglars who broke into Duncan Fergusons house.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
One is inciting murder.
One is reasonable self defence advice, as a last resort "if all else fails".
Olly Robbins mounting legal challenge to his dismissal (Sky)
I'd have thought he'd win quite easily given the facts.
Robbins' legal rep is making the case based on procedures not being followed. Irony squared!!
Surely offering Sir Olly his job back is such a no brainer and clear demarcation from the previous odious regime that Burnham will get around to it no later than day 2?
Counter Terrorism Policing South East have said that “new information and evidence has come to light” and they have taken over the investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe.
Shabana Mahmood said:
“This morning I have spoken to the head of Counter Terrorism Policing, Following new information and evidence, they are now leading on the investigation into the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe. The police are pursuing multiple lines of enquiry to establish the motivation for this attack. I will be updating the House further this afternoon. My thoughts today remain with Ann’s family and friends, and all those who loved her.”
The new information being that South Yorkshire Police are bloody useless?
They’ve probably now searched the house of the suspect, and found evidence of some collaboration, coersion, or a wider network of lunatics.
Or a couple of pictures because a loopy superfan is obsessed with that woman on television.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
Pity the poor burglars who broke into Duncan Fergusons house.
They surely must have got the wrong house, because its not like he was a shrinking violet on the pitch. In a game where normally there is a lot of pushing and shoves and that's the extent of it, he just nutted somebody clean out. He also had convictions for fighting in pubs and taxi drivers, all sorts.
I envision the two scousers out of Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels were the ones who tried to rob his house.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Under what law?
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
In situations where, should the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of Asian ethnicity, some sort of civil disturbance is likely to arise, but where the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of white ethnicity, it is not, surely the logical approach for the police is to publicise the ethnicity in those cases where the suspect or arrested individual is white, but to say nothing when they are Asian? Simple logic to minimise the risk of any premature (and possibly utterly misguided) disturbance arising.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Under what law?
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
In situations where, should the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of Asian ethnicity, some sort of civil disturbance is likely to arise, but where the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of white ethnicity, it is not, surely the logical approach for the police is to publicise the ethnicity in those cases where the suspect or arrested individual is white, but to say nothing when they are Asian? Simple logic to minimise the risk of any premature (and possibly utterly misguided) disturbance arising.
Surely you publicise the ethnicity when the suspect is on the loose and you want the public to be able to identify them.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
I'm not happy calling anyone a rapist based on a trial where "prepoderance of the evidence" is the standard.
And the jury said “No” to the question, even on that evidential standard.
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Which I why I always laugh a little at all those who hate the state intrusion into their lives, and the expansion of CCTV etc. Its works so well in our favour now (i.e. against the criminals).
If true, it makes 1990s Russia look like an era of plenty.
Here is 60 seconds of historian Sarah Paine describing her experience of 1990s Soviet supermarkets, for those who wonder why Putin has widespread support from those who remember how bad things used to be. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t7CIrQCIkzc
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Trump sues lots of people. He rarely (never?) wins. It is legally safe to describe Trump as a rapist.
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
You said “He’s a rapist”
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
Point of information. Where did I suggest that the police 'tooled up' to arrest him? Was he or was he not arrested by armed officers?
Yet more proof that sarcasm, and humour, do not translate well on the internet. Do you understand the joke and the point he was making? I don't expect you to laugh, or think it funny, but the point was two-fold. Men presenting as women (and specifcally the ones who post about using womens toilets as if they've won the world cup almost always (a) retain their testicles and (b) are taller than the average woman, hence the testicles being the target.
Do you genuinely believe he was inciting people to physical assault?
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
One is inciting murder.
One is reasonable self defence advice, as a last resort "if all else fails".
Yeah, I wonder why they are different? 🤦♂️
Both are hurty words until someone is incited. This was how two-tier Keir discredited himself by seeming more concerned about protestors than the murders of young girls at that dance class. But this is where we are now with those on the left and the right defining violence (and terrorism) so broadly that words lose their meanings, and although in the short term this may be good if it means police take low-level abuse more seriously, in the longer term it cheapens the victims of the most violent outrages.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Trump sues lots of people. He rarely (never?) wins. It is legally safe to describe Trump as a rapist.
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
You said “He’s a rapist”
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
Its got like this many reasons, not least too many wankers with axes to grind and a police force too wedded to trying to police social media that rather than just tell people to go away, they take it seriously, adding fire to the flames.
And in the end it can be rather costly - "Graham Linehan receives settlement from Met over online post arrest"
Whatever the rights and wrongs of being rude about people online, was it really appropriate of the met to use armed officers to arrest Linehan? Well 25 grand and an apology says not.
A point of information.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
Point of information. Where did I suggest that the police 'tooled up' to arrest him? Was he or was he not arrested by armed officers?
Yet more proof that sarcasm, and humour, do not translate well on the internet. Do you understand the joke and the point he was making? I don't expect you to laugh, or think it funny, but the point was two-fold. Men presenting as women (and specifcally the ones who post about using womens toilets as if they've won the world cup almost always (a) retain their testicles and (b) are taller than the average woman, hence the testicles being the target.
Do you genuinely believe he was inciting people to physical assault?
I have enjoyed much of Linehan's comedic writing in the past. That tweet, while perhaps worded in what was meant to be a funny way, appears to be a sincere recommendation of how to behave in a certain situation. Ergo, yes, he was inciting people to physical assault (albeit arguably only in a circumstance where that would be legal). It was not written as a joke.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Trump sues lots of people. He rarely (never?) wins. It is legally safe to describe Trump as a rapist.
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
You said “He’s a rapist”
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Trump sues lots of people. He rarely (never?) wins. It is legally safe to describe Trump as a rapist.
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
You said “He’s a rapist”
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
On the more important point, I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
As far as I know, he’s never been convicted of a sexual assault. Feel free to present evidence to the contrary.
I gave two examples of people I consider to be “evil”, both of whom have been responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of civilians.
You made multiple posts where you wanted us to accept the decision of a jury that Trump did not (under a specific, technical definition) rape Carroll. That same jury said he sexually assaulted her. So, should we listen to what this jury said or not?
I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Which I why I always laugh a little at all those who hate the state intrusion into their lives, and the expansion of CCTV etc. Its works so well in our favour now (i.e. against the criminals).
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Which I why I always laugh a little at all those who hate the state intrusion into their lives, and the expansion of CCTV etc. Its works so well in our favour now (i.e. against the criminals).
The number of cases I've observed in the Crown Court where a huge amount of the evidence has been from dash cam/Ring cam/ANPR is increasing.
Also the number of offenders who video/take pictures of themselves with the murder weapon/the drugs/the money is always amusing. Sat through a case last year where the drugs gang were organising collection/distribution of the gear in a group chat which the NCS had access to.
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Which I why I always laugh a little at all those who hate the state intrusion into their lives, and the expansion of CCTV etc. Its works so well in our favour now (i.e. against the criminals).
The number of cases I've observed in the Crown Court where a huge amount of the evidence has been from dash cam/Ring cam/ANPR is increasing.
Also the number of offenders who video/take pictures of themselves with the murder weapon/the drugs/the money is always amusing. Sat through a case last year where the drugs gang were organising collection/distribution of the gear in a group chat which the NCS had access to.
I’ve reported a couple of cars using film from my GoPro who pissed me off by being dicks while I was cycling.
Iran Foreign Ministry says the agreement with the US has “undoubtedly entered a crisis phase,” spokesman Esmail Baghaei says in his weekly press conference. Says ships taking US parallel routes in Hormuz are at risk.
US markets open in only a few hours.
We must be a due a leak to Axios about how well negotiates are going???
Need to get a real leader into the White House instead of the loser who is there who can get regime change in Iran.
Trump is pathetic.
So, to get regime change in Iran, you want regime change in the US? Do you suggest the same approach to achieving regime change, starting with bombing Washington?
TBF, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board who would be delighted to see the pseudo-religious grifting paedophiles with links to organised crime and holding power through dubious election results with the backing of more or less openly corrupt courts removed.
And it would be good to see the back of the Ayatollahs too.
Iran entered the negotiations not like the vanquished Party, but like the victors.
I’d like all three sides to be replaced. The Mullahs, MAGA and the Far Right Israeli regime
I wasn't at all sympathetic to the Iranian regime until Trump started bombing them. Now I'm not quite so sure!
Don’t be sympathetic to them!
So many of the problems in the Middle East of the past half century have Iran’s fingerprints all over them.
Quite agree and not just the Middle East. They've been supplying drones to Russia AIUI. Don't THINK, but I may be wrong, that they helped the Taliban, though. TBH I was a bit surprised the Americans let the funerals go undisturbed.
Indeed, Iran and Russia are the World’s two biggest problems at the moment, and it’s not surprising that they’re helping each other’s adventures.
Letting funerals happen is good PR, there’s plenty of bad things you can say about Trump and Hegseth but they’re not that stupid.
What about causing funerals? Is that also good PR?
I don’t generally speak ill of the dead, it’s a very bad trend of recent years and I’m a generally positive person who sees the good in everyone, even if we fundamentally disagree on everything.
But I have to admit I won’t shed a tear for Iranian and Russian leaders who find themselves six feet under, no matter how it happened.
While I don't regard Trump as on the same level as these evil, murdering bastards, I won't weep for him either. He has not been a source of good for America, let alone the rest of the world.
I know that I defend Trump more than most on here, but he really isn’t evil. Misguided, self-serving, unwilling to listen to others, guilty as charged. But that doesn’t make someone evil.
Putin and Khomeni, they’re actually evil, people who have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
He's a rapist. Is rape not evil?
Evidence for “He’s a rapist”, given that he’s been convicted of no such offence.
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
The judge said we can call him a rapist in lay terms, even if the court case made a distinction between forced digital penetration and forced penile penetration.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
If the jury is asked “Did person A rape person B?”, and that jury answers “No”, then why would anyone describe the person as “a rapist”?
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
Trump sues lots of people. He rarely (never?) wins. It is legally safe to describe Trump as a rapist.
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
You said “He’s a rapist”
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
On the more important point, I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
As far as I know, he’s never been convicted of a sexual assault. Feel free to present evidence to the contrary.
I gave two examples of people I consider to be “evil”, both of whom have been responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of civilians.
You made multiple posts where you wanted us to accept the decision of a jury that Trump did not (under a specific, technical definition) rape Carroll. That same jury said he sexually assaulted her. So, should we listen to what this jury said or not?
I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
Why were police seeking to specifically rule out political or terrorist motivation before they knew the facts. Why was it commented on at all before this relatively recent (And new) to the enquiry information was known.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
Someone, possibly the Home Secretary, needs to have a serious word with the Editors of media outlets, as well as the Police, telling them that they are not permitted to speculate, with serious consequences threatened for those that do.
Under what law?
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
In situations where, should the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of Asian ethnicity, some sort of civil disturbance is likely to arise, but where the alleged, but not proven, perpetrator be of white ethnicity, it is not, surely the logical approach for the police is to publicise the ethnicity in those cases where the suspect or arrested individual is white, but to say nothing when they are Asian? Simple logic to minimise the risk of any premature (and possibly utterly misguided) disturbance arising.
Except we both know that the result of that will be that every time a suspect's ethnicity is not released, people will automatically (and by your logic correctly) assume the perp is non-white and so will start a public disturbance.
The only answer to this is to be uniform. Either release the ethnicity in all cases or release in none. Anything else allows the morons to jump to their conclusions.
If true, it makes 1990s Russia look like an era of plenty.
Here is 60 seconds of historian Sarah Paine describing her experience of 1990s Soviet supermarkets, for those who wonder why Putin has widespread support from those who remember how bad things used to be. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t7CIrQCIkzc
1990s Russia Joke
What do old people remember about Stalin? There was food and there was order What do old people want? Lots of food. And lots of order.
This is nothing new, sadly, though I had hoped we had moved beyond it. I often marvel at the extent to which architects of social housing appear to hate the concept of those houses' occupants being able to see out. It doesn't appear to be a costcutting measure particularly. OTOH, a lot of those horrible tower blocks which went up in the lase 60s and 70s had absolutely amazing light inside.
Because contrary to repeated claims to the contrary Britain is still a free country where people are allowed to be offensive.
Yet the guy who made these comments is one of the loons demanding the likes of Graham Linehan are arrested for not accepting their fantasy.
So they can be as offensive as they like, yet when the other side does it it’s running to the police time.
Yes. People are frequently hypocrites.
Is that news to you?
It doesn't mean that a reasonable person should regard offensive comments about Widdecombe's murder to be criminal.
It’s not news to me. You will be shocked to hear. But this bloke is one of a group of hardcore trans activists often using the law to silence dissent on pain of judicial review. Including in the recent Linehan case for innocuous comments made by a non UK citizen outside of the U.K.
It’s good,to see he’s getting it back in spades at the moment.
Quite happy as a teenager, according to contemporaneous reports, to march through Sussex singing Nazi songs in the presence of Jewish classmates. He can dish it out but if it is batted back to him he whines like a whiny thing.
The BBC and the Sun currently have footage of the current suspect leaving home morning of the attack. He appears to have a club.
I wouldn't have a Ring camera, but they are transformative for this sort of thing.
I was showing my students a documentary about a murder investigation in the Midlands, which was a violent attack on a delivery driver. The police had the number plates of the vehicles within minutes from Ring doorbell footage and apprehended most of the suspects within two hours of the offence, having picked the plates up on ANPR.
Which I why I always laugh a little at all those who hate the state intrusion into their lives, and the expansion of CCTV etc. Its works so well in our favour now (i.e. against the criminals).
The number of cases I've observed in the Crown Court where a huge amount of the evidence has been from dash cam/Ring cam/ANPR is increasing.
Also the number of offenders who video/take pictures of themselves with the murder weapon/the drugs/the money is always amusing. Sat through a case last year where the drugs gang were organising collection/distribution of the gear in a group chat which the NCS had access to.
Many years ago, a friend was taking the police to court. The events had been recorded by the then very new ATM camera in a bank. The police, who did not come off well in the recording, objected on the grounds of personal privacy of the officer in question...
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That’s the problem with the provision of info. You can never satisfy the demand for speculation, and the kind of person doing that is going to make up shite anyway.
I’m with Dan Hodges on this. Frankly in the long run I think the police will revert to zero public statements to avoid this kind of trap.
Speaking of which:-
Tour of Ann Widdecombe’s Devon house aired on TV days before she was found dead
...
In the [repeat] show, Ms Widdecombe gives host Angus Ashworth a guided tour of the home, which she purchased for an estimated £600,000 in 2008, including her library and some of her antiques.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ann-widdecombe-devon-house-tour-murder-b3013807.html
The internet really was a bad idea, wasn't it.
But I now think they all knew what was going on and knew what was coming. Quite how it took so long for the police to confirm she'd been murdered, I don't know.
This is like the current situation where police now rush to tell us that suspects are white, British, men, except when they don't say anything. So people (including the racist right) jump to conclusions. They are stuck now, as if they say nothing, assumptions are made.
Le Pen 52%
Philippe 48%
https://bsky.app/profile/europeelects.bsky.social/post/3mqj7vp6o6w2p
If, and we don't know, Anne Widdicombe was murdered because of her politics then I am happy that that is terrorism.
https://x.com/vivek4real_/status/2076389631537353047
Tl:dr you make missiles out of already-available components, and go for volume over cutting-edge technology, that can be manufactured on existing industrial production lines.
Reminds me of Nimrod, Haddon-Cave and the aftermath
I understand why this is being done but, particularly at local council level, feel that it’s a regrettable step. Anyone seriously motivated enough to do the preparation for and take the risk of the consequences from killing a politician will surely be determined enough to uncover where they live or frequent; meanwhile ordinary voters are deprived of knowing where the people elected to represent them actually live.
Targeted action against politicians or military sites is not designed to coerce the general population through fear, which is what I and most people consider it to be.
And they wonder why people increasingly driven to black market bookies. Sure, you might not get paid but that's also true with the regular firms.
https://gamblingnews.uk/betting/2026-07-12/bet365-refuses-to-pay-british-punters-england-vs-mexico-winnings/
Sunglasses are advised before viewing that website apparently designed by the CEO's 12-year-old nephew circa 1998.
AFAICS, both Hodges and Farage have been doing that (though we should allow for the likelihood that Farage is going to be personally affected by the shocking killing of someone he knows well; whatever else we might think of him, he's human too).
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If I was running the regulator, I would make Bet365 pay out 10x his winnings to him, as compensation.
Surely "We are not speculating, all lines of enquiry remain open" would have been a more sage approach instead of leading the (Easily lead quite frankly) media down the route of 'it's not politics or terrorism.
It’s been quite effective this time round IMO, but in the long term it’s a stupid policy because people will just say “remember Widdecombe”.
Trouble is the GC is more of an anti-gambling commission run by people who know nothing about gambling alongside those who think it the invention of the devil.
Through The Keyhole does now seem rather quaint in an era of targeted burglaries and assasinations.
Don’t do this, if you have anything of a public profile but not 24/7 security.
There’s already stories of footballers travelling to away and international matches having to hire security, after houses got robbed, with wives and housemaids being assaulted.
https://x.com/JakubKrupa/status/2076632765261283657
@JakubKrupa
Counter terrorism police now leaving Ann Widdecombe investigation - BBC News
There was even a civil trial in the E Jean Carroll case, where that specific question was put to the jury, and they decided that he was not liable for rape.
Graham Linehan lives in the US and was arrested on entering the UK at Heathrow, where police are routinely armed. The police did not tool up just to arrest Linehan.
This is the tweet in question:
"If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."
It's interesting, isn't it? Suggest burning down an asylum seeker hotel and you receive a 31 month sentence. Suggest "punching" someone "in the balls" to your 600k+ followers - which is counselling or even procuring a serious bodily assault on someone - and you get 25 grand no questions asked.
Two tier justice indeed.
The normal challenge when using them as offensive weapons is getting close enough to apply them, rather than their efficacy on application.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8k39vz8vvo
Free speech, people have the right to speculate, within the law. Whether it is right to do so or not.
The Police should not be saying anything until they have anything to say.
It could be gross misconduct, but not criminal.
It’s the same reasoning against banning pharmacies from selling canaboids, MDMA, and amphetamines.
There is, however, extensive employment law precedent for losing your job because you were a jerk in public and identifiable as working for your employer.
People are just on here being radically deconstructive twatfaces about it.
I know, let's fucking solve crimes in micro fucking seconds so all the Alan Partridge A-HA I-knew--fucking-better fuckers can just fuck right back off under their fucking rocks.
There's certainly no equivalence with calling for an asylum seeker hotel to be burned down.
Also, are you really going to claim that sexually assaulting a woman and forcing your fingers into her is not evil?
Kicking someone in the bollocks, much less so.
https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2076627820134961391
If true, it makes 1990s Russia look like an era of plenty.
One is reasonable self defence advice, as a last resort "if all else fails".
Yeah, I wonder why they are different? 🤦♂️
I envision the two scousers out of Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels were the ones who tried to rob his house.
Jakub Krupa
@JakubKrupa
Counter terrorism police now leading Ann Widdecombe investigation - BBC News
https://x.com/JakubKrupa/status/2076644815928770826
More than one person in the US has been sued by Trump, for repeating the suggestion that the jury thought otherwise.
So they can be as offensive as they like, yet when the other side does it it’s running to the police time.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t7CIrQCIkzc
But this is all you trying to distract from the point. Do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil?
The jury said “No”.
I agree he’s a scumbag human being, I know a few arseholes like him and I have a personal dislike for that personality type.
That doesn’t make him a rapist.
The civil case itself is dodgy as hell for a whole number of reasons, starting with the victim being unable to narrow down even to the year in which it happened, but the jury was asked a very specific question and gave a very specific answer.
Yet more proof that sarcasm, and humour, do not translate well on the internet. Do you understand the joke and the point he was making? I don't expect you to laugh, or think it funny, but the point was two-fold. Men presenting as women (and specifcally the ones who post about using womens toilets as if they've won the world cup almost always (a) retain their testicles and (b) are taller than the average woman, hence the testicles being the target.
Do you genuinely believe he was inciting people to physical assault?
On the more important point, I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
I gave two examples of people I consider to be “evil”, both of whom have been responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of civilians.
I ask again: do you think the fact that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women makes him evil? Yes or no?
Also the number of offenders who video/take pictures of themselves with the murder weapon/the drugs/the money is always amusing. Sat through a case last year where the drugs gang were organising collection/distribution of the gear in a group chat which the NCS had access to.
Who wants daylight
https://x.com/gavinwhite76/status/2075837243944575425?s=61
Is that news to you?
It doesn't mean that a reasonable person should regard offensive comments about Widdecombe's murder to be criminal.
Very easy to do.
The only answer to this is to be uniform. Either release the ethnicity in all cases or release in none. Anything else allows the morons to jump to their conclusions.
What do old people remember about Stalin? There was food and there was order
What do old people want? Lots of food. And lots of order.
OTOH, a lot of those horrible tower blocks which went up in the lase 60s and 70s had absolutely amazing light inside.
It’s not news to me. You will be shocked to hear. But this bloke is one of a group of hardcore trans activists often using the law to silence dissent on pain of judicial review. Including in the recent Linehan case for innocuous comments made by a non UK citizen outside of the U.K.
It’s good,to see he’s getting it back in spades at the moment.
I hope he loses his job.
Quite happy as a teenager, according to contemporaneous reports, to march through Sussex singing Nazi songs in the presence of Jewish classmates. He can dish it out but if it is batted back to him he whines like a whiny thing.
When people clocked that they could track anybody, Ring promptly shelved the feature (publicly anyway)