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  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,960
    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,429
    IanB2 said:

    Polanski says he was wrong to claim he was a spokesperson for the British Red Cross

    Farage and Polanski will be found out, and this week may well be as good as it get's for them

    He's also right, however, that the same sort of attacks and smears that anyone who challenges from the left runs into are likely starting to come his way. There's a lot of powerful vested interest against many of his ideas.
    He is, like Farage, a serious candidate for power of some sort. That's all you need to know. There are massive vested interests against anyone in search of any sort of power in a country as centralised as ours.

    Perhaps it is fortunate that Polanski and Farage leave a trail of evidence that they are not entirely satisfactory people. However, the best antidote to sub optimal people with bad ideas is super optimal people with transparently honest good ideas. So there is a bit of a vacancy in a significant department.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,012

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Having the paragraph in bold contain the word ‘Tories’ four times, plus a ‘Tory’, is extraordinary

    Somebody hates elegant variation

    Somebody’s not read some of Sir Winston Churchill’s works.
    I’ve never read any of them. Did he constantly repeat the same word in sentences as well? Doesn’t appeal if so, sounds grating

    The paragraph beginning with ‘Whilst’ is almost unreadable by the way
    Well, he won a Nobel prize for Literature, so some people think he was quite a good writer…
    I do kind of see that one as a bit like Ukraine winning Eurovision in 2022 - few begrudge them the victory, but it pretty obviously wasn't the best song.

    Churchill wasn't at all bad as a writer, but there were clearly other reasons at play for the award.
    Are you suggesting that the Nobel Committee have political motives for making an award? *Obama waves*

    Or not awarding one? *Trump rages*
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383
    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types...
    Doesn't that depend on whether they believe their breasts are bigger?

  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,233

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    If you're an actual bedwetter you probably would care.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Great image of "Not mad at all, no sirreee" Miliband...

    Imagine how much he can change our lives as Chancellor?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,949

    The Jeffrey Donaldson case is getting nearer: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/jeffrey-donaldson-trial-judge-warns-he-will-be-extremely-disappointed-if-case-does-not-open-this-month/a/151086201.html

    Surely this is a bigger scandal than Mandelson, Farage’s £5 million, Partygate or almost anything else (but all still sub judice).

    I’d have thought the SNP case conveniently after the elections is likely bigger.
    I take SirNorfolkPassmore's point. In both cases, who knew what when is a big part of the question.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    Good morning PB.

    Have we noted Trump's proposal to allocate one billion tax dollars to 'security improvements to the White House above and below ground' via a mechanism which cannot be blocked in the Senate?

    (Guess where it will be going ?)

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/05/senate-immigration-package-1bn-trump-ballroom
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,655

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    This analysis is interesting in a geeky way. Tumble-dryers are quite efficient providing you stop before the clothes are completely dry and finish them off through airing. Problem is, people run them too long.

    https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2025/10/05/tumble-dryer-efficiency/
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,655
    Scott_xP said:

    @markjacob.bsky.social‬

    Trump announces that because of "Great Progress" the strait will remain closed. You read that right.

    https://bsky.app/profile/markjacob.bsky.social/post/3ml5cq7flck23

    @lordrickettsp.bsky.social‬

    Complete chaos in Washington on what to do about Hormuz. The Iranians will surely conclude that they have deterred the latest US effort to get ships moving and that Trump is desperate for a deal before he goes to China. So they will toughen their negotiating demands. And the price of oil stays high.

    Does anyone know what Trump was trying to do with "Operation Freedom" ? Whatever it was, it doesn't seem to have worked. Freedom not required presumably.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,892

    The Jeffrey Donaldson case is getting nearer: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/courts/jeffrey-donaldson-trial-judge-warns-he-will-be-extremely-disappointed-if-case-does-not-open-this-month/a/151086201.html

    Surely this is a bigger scandal than Mandelson, Farage’s £5 million, Partygate or almost anything else.

    It isn't a bigger "scandal". It's a bigger alleged crime. But Donaldson is now an ex-politician with no way back even if he is acquitted.

    What makes a scandal is the wider and ongoing political implications - the questions about the future of Starmer over Mandelson, Johnson over Partygate and possibly Farage over his financial dealings. The Donaldson thing is a potentially grim tale but, unless it does implicate senior figures still on the front line, the impact has already happened.
    Maybe this is the impact already having happened.

    'Poll finds more than 60% would vote for united Ireland

    The poll indicated that if a referendum were held tomorrow on a united Ireland in the EU, 59% in Ireland would vote in favour and 22% against, with 63% voting in favour in Northern Ireland and 29% against.'

    https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/poll-finds-more-than-60-would-vote-for-united-ireland-45XID7XS3ZASBMS6JX63KMCIWQ/
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,244
    HYUFD said:

    There is no way the Tories would agree a takeover by Reform, let alone be led by Jenrick now, it would mean the end of the party as an independent party. 1/3 of Conservative voters also would go LD over Reform so it would weaken the right overall. Farage anyway has made clear his aim is to destroy the Tories now not do a deal with them, he would aim to reduce the Tories to a rump of less than 50 MPs at the next general election and then take them over.

    Churchill of course was for a time a Liberal but only over a genuine difference of opinion on tariff reform and free trade with the Tories he did not leave the party out of pure opportunism like Jenrick

    As I have mentioned earlier in the thread, Reform's weakness is the ability to scale up with people who will hold the course rather than the current paper candidates who will flounce off when the going gets tough. There is the ready made cadre of Conservatives councillors who know their way around local government. Is there a better pool to fish in?

    So the continual conversation about a merger seems to come from those seeking to legitimise crossing from Conservatives to Reform.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,960

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,208

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Excellent from Miliband.

    Anyone who is to willing to pay £1,000 extra in bills over the lifecycle of a traditional tumble dryer, compared to paying about £100 more up front for a heat pump dryer equivalent, needs their head examined.

    Forcing adoption of heat pump dryers is exactly the sort of policy that should be pursued by any responsible government seeking to boost UK energy security while not abandoning the fight against climate change.

  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    You need to get a grip pal. Good grief
  • StarryStarry Posts: 198
    edited May 6
    HYUFD said:

    There is no way the Tories would agree a takeover by Reform, let alone be led by Jenrick now, it would mean the end of the party as an independent party. 1/3 of Conservative voters also would go LD over Reform so it would weaken the right overall.

    It would also mean a lot of the Red Reform voters who, unbelievably, think RefUK are the party that going to improve the lot of those on benefits/low income and hated the previous Tory government(s), would be lost.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2026/05/06/migration-concerns-undermine-support-for-european-union-in-ireland/

    This opinion poll finds 63% support in Northern Ireland for a, "united Ireland in the EU."

    That's so far out of line with other polling on a united Ireland that I assume it's affected by the question on support for rejoining the EU (73%). But still.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,208
    edited May 6

    Burnham spinning again?

    Angela Rayner unlikely to win unions’ support to replace Keir Starmer

    ‘All roads lead to Andy Burnham,’ insiders claim as Unite, Unison and GMB appear reluctant to support a leadership challenge from the former deputy


    Britain’s three largest unions are unlikely to back Angela Rayner if she challenges Sir Keir Starmer to become leader of the Labour Party, The Times understands.

    Senior figures in Unite, Unison and GMB, which together account for the majority of the party’s affiliated membership, have signalled that they may not back the former deputy prime minister if she runs against Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, dealing a significant blow to any formal campaign she may mount.

    Rayner has long touted her support for the unions and rose through Unison’s ranks to become its most senior official in the northwest of England before becoming an MP.

    Union backing is key in Labour leadership races and any challenger needs to secure nominations from at least two of them to get on the ballot. Affiliated union members then get a vote in the contest.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/angela-rayner-keir-starmer-news-wlddznvz2

    Absolutely. Another story stretching the bounds of credulity beyond breaking point.

    "If she runs against Andy Burnham" is the giveaway.

    Rayner is not going to be running against Burnham because Burnham won't be on the ballot paper.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,892
    edited May 6
    Nigelb said:

    She too right wing for my taste, but within the normal bounds of democracy, and she is in many respects admirable.

    In these days, several fake photos of me are circulating, generated with artificial intelligence and passed off as real by some zealous opponent.

    I must admit that whoever created them, at least in the attached case, has also improved me quite a bit. But the fact remains that, just to attack and invent falsehoods, nowadays anything at all is used.

    The point, however, goes beyond me. Deepfakes are a dangerous tool, because they can deceive, manipulate, and strike anyone. I can defend myself. Many others cannot.

    For this reason, one rule should always apply: verify before believing, and believe before sharing. Because today it happens to me, tomorrow it can happen to anyone.

    https://x.com/GiorgiaMeloni/status/2051672420440764626

    I feel I must issue an apology to I think @boulay who I scoffed at for saying he fancied her. I now find Meloni quite hot especially when she's doing that side eye thing and saying effectively who is this daft old orange **** and why is he spouting this shite.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 3,309

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383
    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @markjacob.bsky.social‬

    Trump announces that because of "Great Progress" the strait will remain closed. You read that right.

    https://bsky.app/profile/markjacob.bsky.social/post/3ml5cq7flck23

    @lordrickettsp.bsky.social‬

    Complete chaos in Washington on what to do about Hormuz. The Iranians will surely conclude that they have deterred the latest US effort to get ships moving and that Trump is desperate for a deal before he goes to China. So they will toughen their negotiating demands. And the price of oil stays high.

    "Great progress" on a deal says Comical Donny.
    Not sure what happens when Iran says "The Straits remain closed until President Trump accedes to each and every one of our 14 demands."

    Probably replies "No, the Straits are fully open. Not my problem if non-Americans choose not to use them..."
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,679
    HYUFD said:

    There is no way the Tories would agree a takeover by Reform, let alone be led by Jenrick now, it would mean the end of the party as an independent party. 1/3 of Conservative voters also would go LD over Reform so it would weaken the right overall. Farage anyway has made clear his aim is to destroy the Tories now not do a deal with them, he would aim to reduce the Tories to a rump of less than 50 MPs at the next general election and then take them over.

    Churchill of course was for a time a Liberal but only over a genuine difference of opinion on tariff reform and free trade with the Tories he did not leave the party out of pure opportunism like Jenrick

    It's not often I agree with you but I think you are spot on.

    I went through a merger when the Liberals and SDP merged after the 1987 election. I remember being in Blackpool in January 1988 for the Special Liberal Party Assembly which I think was at the Norbreck Castle Hotel (if memory serves).

    Feelings were running very high - Michael Meadowcroft and those who thought like him were strong in rejecting the merger. I know the SDP went through a similar trauma (I had SDP friends on both sides and one went back to Labour and never spoke to any of us ever again).

    This was something which most people from the outside seemed to regard as inevitable - the two parties had worked together for years - but it wasn't. Individuals in both parties thought it was going to be a takeover by the other party.

    What came out the other side were two weakened entities - the Owenite SDP didn't survive and the Social & Liberal Democrats (later the LDs) were financially ruined and close to bankruptcy and lost a lot of members, supporters and activists. Had the SDP won Richmond in 1989,who knows where history might have taken us (no William Hague but I'm sure it's not all good news).

    The SLDs (later LDs) were hugely fortunate in having Paddy Ashdown (and I see faint echoes in the campaigning style of Kemi Badenoch) who, apart from being the one Liberal MP least tainted by merger, worked tirelessly to keep the party alive.

    Aided and abetted (it has to be said) by circumstance, the party survived but it has never reached the levels of public support it enjoyed as the Alliance - I think there was once a poll which had the Conservatives, Labour and Alliance all tied on 31%.

    Thanks for sitting through the history lesson - the question is really whether the Merger was desirable or even necessary. The Alliance could have continued as two separate parties and as history showed, one of the big sources of discontent, defence, would have ceased to have been such an issue with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    What would an Alliance grouping have done had it held the balance of power after the 1992 election?
  • PhilPhil Posts: 3,309

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    An aside: Google’s insertion of share.google links every time you try and share link is very annoying. You can turn it off, but it’s very Google to insist on trying to insert themselves into every transaction on the web so they can track everyone in even more granular detail.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,128
    Ipsos World opinion poll. Interesting in that a lot of it feels predictable but it's difficult to flick through without thinking about how it was done. Anyway for those only interested in headlines Trumps not very popular but we didn't really need an Ipsos Super poll to tell us that.

    https://www.ipsos.com/en/topic/what-worries-world
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @markjacob.bsky.social‬

    Trump announces that because of "Great Progress" the strait will remain closed. You read that right.

    https://bsky.app/profile/markjacob.bsky.social/post/3ml5cq7flck23

    @lordrickettsp.bsky.social‬

    Complete chaos in Washington on what to do about Hormuz. The Iranians will surely conclude that they have deterred the latest US effort to get ships moving and that Trump is desperate for a deal before he goes to China. So they will toughen their negotiating demands. And the price of oil stays high.

    Does anyone know what Trump was trying to do with "Operation Freedom" ? Whatever it was, it doesn't seem to have worked. Freedom not required presumably.
    It seems like it was a bluff. Iran called the bluff. Trump folded.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190
    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,428

    Nigelb said:

    She too right wing for my taste, but within the normal bounds of democracy, and she is in many respects admirable.

    In these days, several fake photos of me are circulating, generated with artificial intelligence and passed off as real by some zealous opponent.

    I must admit that whoever created them, at least in the attached case, has also improved me quite a bit. But the fact remains that, just to attack and invent falsehoods, nowadays anything at all is used.

    The point, however, goes beyond me. Deepfakes are a dangerous tool, because they can deceive, manipulate, and strike anyone. I can defend myself. Many others cannot.

    For this reason, one rule should always apply: verify before believing, and believe before sharing. Because today it happens to me, tomorrow it can happen to anyone.

    https://x.com/GiorgiaMeloni/status/2051672420440764626

    She went up a lot in my estimation when she took on Trump and refused to back down.
    She had no choice - many ordinary Italians are far more pro-Gaza and anti-Trump than in the UK; when I was there last autumn, every city and many towns were seeing weekly pro-palestinian protests. Meloni faces the same risks of being seen as too close to Trump as does Farage. Further, as part of the EU, Italy cannot get any significant exemptions from Trump's generally hostile trade stance towards Europe.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,866
    edited May 6

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    Boring fact check here:

    https://bsky.app/profile/monkemma.bsky.social/post/3mkus3ns6tf2v

    Heat pump dryers cost about 20 quid more upfront, and it takes about 20 uses to save that money back.

    And most new tumble dryers are heat pump models anyway.

    #Millibandderangementsyndrome
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,567

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,526
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    Equally you find people who prefer racist lies, anti-environmental lies…

    Back in the days of USENET, there was quite a discussion on the urban legends newsgroup on how people regarded puncturing their world view with facts as anti-social.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,627
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    "The £5m bung has nothing to do with politics..", for example ?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,428
    Last night's Newsnight billing:

    Newsnight - A London political earthquake? (G) warning - contains some upsetting scenes.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,949
    IanB2 said:

    Nigelb said:

    She too right wing for my taste, but within the normal bounds of democracy, and she is in many respects admirable.

    In these days, several fake photos of me are circulating, generated with artificial intelligence and passed off as real by some zealous opponent.

    I must admit that whoever created them, at least in the attached case, has also improved me quite a bit. But the fact remains that, just to attack and invent falsehoods, nowadays anything at all is used.

    The point, however, goes beyond me. Deepfakes are a dangerous tool, because they can deceive, manipulate, and strike anyone. I can defend myself. Many others cannot.

    For this reason, one rule should always apply: verify before believing, and believe before sharing. Because today it happens to me, tomorrow it can happen to anyone.

    https://x.com/GiorgiaMeloni/status/2051672420440764626

    She went up a lot in my estimation when she took on Trump and refused to back down.
    She had no choice - many ordinary Italians are far more pro-Gaza and anti-Trump than in the UK; when I was there last autumn, every city and many towns were seeing weekly pro-palestinian protests. Meloni faces the same risks of being seen as too close to Trump as does Farage. Further, as part of the EU, Italy cannot get any significant exemptions from Trump's generally hostile trade stance towards Europe.
    I think the Italian populist right also has a long tradition behind it that's independent of the US populist right, whereas, say, the UK populist right is much more connected to the US populist right.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,627

    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @markjacob.bsky.social‬

    Trump announces that because of "Great Progress" the strait will remain closed. You read that right.

    https://bsky.app/profile/markjacob.bsky.social/post/3ml5cq7flck23

    @lordrickettsp.bsky.social‬

    Complete chaos in Washington on what to do about Hormuz. The Iranians will surely conclude that they have deterred the latest US effort to get ships moving and that Trump is desperate for a deal before he goes to China. So they will toughen their negotiating demands. And the price of oil stays high.

    "Great progress" on a deal says Comical Donny.
    Not sure what happens when Iran says "The Straits remain closed until President Trump accedes to each and every one of our 14 demands."

    Probably replies "No, the Straits are fully open. Not my problem if non-Americans choose not to use them..."
    What happens is that Trump will have spent a few hundred billion driving the west to the edge of recession, in order to make Iran realise they can probably charge tolls for passage through the Strait in the future.

    Plus regime change - new for old.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,505
    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,878

    Nigelb said:

    She too right wing for my taste, but within the normal bounds of democracy, and she is in many respects admirable.

    In these days, several fake photos of me are circulating, generated with artificial intelligence and passed off as real by some zealous opponent.

    I must admit that whoever created them, at least in the attached case, has also improved me quite a bit. But the fact remains that, just to attack and invent falsehoods, nowadays anything at all is used.

    The point, however, goes beyond me. Deepfakes are a dangerous tool, because they can deceive, manipulate, and strike anyone. I can defend myself. Many others cannot.

    For this reason, one rule should always apply: verify before believing, and believe before sharing. Because today it happens to me, tomorrow it can happen to anyone.

    https://x.com/GiorgiaMeloni/status/2051672420440764626

    I feel I must issue an apology to I think @boulay who I scoffed at for saying he fancied her. I now find Meloni quite hot especially when she's doing that side eye thing and saying effectively who is this daft old orange **** and why is he spouting this shite.
    Haha, she is a woman whose attractiveness is multiplied by her attitude. The side-eye and the sullen bored look in top level meetings is a good look. Whilst I’ve never remotely fancied Margaret Thatcher I believe many people who knew her found her very attractive so it’s clearly a thing.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,208

    Interesting bet. Not one I will be taking up.

    Unsurprising anti Kemi thread

    Jenrick will not lead the conservative psrty
    I agree but unless Badenoch rules out any sort of agreement with Reform I will not be voting Tory and otherwise there is a serious possibility that I would.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,892
    The final conclusive proof that Sarwar's a fcking fool without a clue about football or his city, a man who always has to fill empty space with words regardless of how dumb they are.

    https://x.com/jamiedmaxwell/status/2051942372489953425?s=20
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    FF43 said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    This analysis is interesting in a geeky way. Tumble-dryers are quite efficient providing you stop before the clothes are completely dry and finish them off through airing. Problem is, people run them too long.

    https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2025/10/05/tumble-dryer-efficiency/
    For real efficiency -> washing line under a shelter or a drying rack. I use my second shower and a small dehumidifier.

    It's just the Telegraph trolling the basement dwellers of Tunbridge Wells. The Two Minute Hate is important. It will be the same sort of 7 day wonder as the LED light bulb outrage.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,949

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    Equally you find people who prefer racist lies, anti-environmental lies…

    Back in the days of USENET, there was quite a discussion on the urban legends newsgroup on how people regarded puncturing their world view with facts as anti-social.
    Yeah. I know. I keep saying that there are problems in
    the British Muslim community which means I’m a deluded racist and…

    Oh


    “A quarter of Muslim respondents said they had a favourable view of the proscribed terrorist organisation Hamas, while more held a favourable than an unfavourable view of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

    About one in seven also expressed favourable views of Islamic State or al-Qaeda, although larger proportions held unfavourable views.”

    There are maybe 4.5m Muslims in Britain. This means 640,000 British Muslims have a favourable view of ISIS or al-Qaeda. Not Hamas, ISIS OR AL QAEDA

    We don’t just have a problem, we have something approaching an emergency


    https://x.com/simonmontefiore/status/2051585150278857180?s=46
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,627
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    There is no way the Tories would agree a takeover by Reform, let alone be led by Jenrick now, it would mean the end of the party as an independent party. 1/3 of Conservative voters also would go LD over Reform so it would weaken the right overall. Farage anyway has made clear his aim is to destroy the Tories now not do a deal with them, he would aim to reduce the Tories to a rump of less than 50 MPs at the next general election and then take them over.

    Churchill of course was for a time a Liberal but only over a genuine difference of opinion on tariff reform and free trade with the Tories he did not leave the party out of pure opportunism like Jenrick

    It's not often I agree with you but I think you are spot on.

    I went through a merger when the Liberals and SDP merged after the 1987 election. I remember being in Blackpool in January 1988 for the Special Liberal Party Assembly which I think was at the Norbreck Castle Hotel (if memory serves).

    Feelings were running very high - Michael Meadowcroft and those who thought like him were strong in rejecting the merger. I know the SDP went through a similar trauma (I had SDP friends on both sides and one went back to Labour and never spoke to any of us ever again).

    This was something which most people from the outside seemed to regard as inevitable - the two parties had worked together for years - but it wasn't. Individuals in both parties thought it was going to be a takeover by the other party.

    What came out the other side were two weakened entities - the Owenite SDP didn't survive and the Social & Liberal Democrats (later the LDs) were financially ruined and close to bankruptcy and lost a lot of members, supporters and activists. Had the SDP won Richmond in 1989,who knows where history might have taken us (no William Hague but I'm sure it's not all good news).

    The SLDs (later LDs) were hugely fortunate in having Paddy Ashdown (and I see faint echoes in the campaigning style of Kemi Badenoch) who, apart from being the one Liberal MP least tainted by merger, worked tirelessly to keep the party alive.

    Aided and abetted (it has to be said) by circumstance, the party survived but it has never reached the levels of public support it enjoyed as the Alliance - I think there was once a poll which had the Conservatives, Labour and Alliance all tied on 31%.

    Thanks for sitting through the history lesson - the question is really whether the Merger was desirable or even necessary. The Alliance could have continued as two separate parties and as history showed, one of the big sources of discontent, defence, would have ceased to have been such an issue with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    What would an Alliance grouping have done had it held the balance of power after the 1992 election?
    The Tory/Reform thing would be if anything more toxic, since it involves personal betrayal by defectors into the bargain.

    ..I had SDP friends on both sides and one went back to Labour and never spoke to any of us ever again..

    Wow.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,526
    MattW said:

    FF43 said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    This analysis is interesting in a geeky way. Tumble-dryers are quite efficient providing you stop before the clothes are completely dry and finish them off through airing. Problem is, people run them too long.

    https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2025/10/05/tumble-dryer-efficiency/
    For real efficiency -> washing line under a shelter or a drying rack. I use my second shower and a small dehumidifier.

    It's just the Telegraph trolling the basement dwellers of Tunbridge Wells. The Two Minute Hate is important. It will be the same sort of 7 day wonder as the LED light bulb outrage.
    You have space - “second shower”…

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    You don't have a magic laundry basket?*

    * As it turns out we appear to have a house elf.#

    # It's me. I'm the house elf.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,505

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    Being a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist is the general problem.

    But that doesn't preclude being willing to accept casualties.

    Unless that is Trump's stupidity allowed him to think he could start the sort of war in which being willing to accept casualties was a necessity without him being willing to accept casualties.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    carnforth said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    If you're an actual bedwetter you probably would care.
    Bedwetters will save lots of money !!

    Th Telegraph article says the cost is only £40 more on average (less than I thought), and the energy use is less than half. I don't have a heat pump one because I only use it once every several months.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 26,293

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    It strikes me youre the one who cannot see past headlines.

    The Islamic Republic is dead in all but name.

    It's economy is totally wrecked
    It will need all its money to repair the war damage
    There will be no spare cash to fund proxies
    It has a seethingly discontent population
    In 5-10 years the Carribean basin will be a more reliable oil supplier than the Gulf so even less cash

    Iran is screwed
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,505

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    Being a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist is the general problem.

    But that doesn't preclude being willing to accept casualties.

    Unless that is Trump's stupidity allowed him to think he could start the sort of war in which being willing to accept casualties was a necessity without him being willing to accept casualties.
    Another problem that Trump is causing is that his continual mind changing and flipflopping on strategy is completely off putting for any country which Trump might want to give military support.

    The successful military operations of recent decades have been based on:

    1) A clear goal and followed through strategy

    2) A willingness to accept casualties to achieve it

  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    MattW said:

    FF43 said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    This analysis is interesting in a geeky way. Tumble-dryers are quite efficient providing you stop before the clothes are completely dry and finish them off through airing. Problem is, people run them too long.

    https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2025/10/05/tumble-dryer-efficiency/
    For real efficiency -> washing line under a shelter or a drying rack. I use my second shower and a small dehumidifier.

    It's just the Telegraph trolling the basement dwellers of Tunbridge Wells. The Two Minute Hate is important. It will be the same sort of 7 day wonder as the LED light bulb outrage.
    You have space - “second shower”…

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.
    I was in the latter situation. Then I realised that in a warm flat - cooked by huge south facing windows most of the year, and with good central heating in winter, clothes will dry naturally on a metal drying rack in a few hours. They also dry in a nicer way

    Result! I got to dump my hideous appliance which left new room for an exquisite 18th century Italian chest of drawers with wonderful marquetry

    I accept this is not a solution for large families
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    A very good thread on the serious problem of social housing in London. It is a pretty outrageous situation

    “The huge concentration of social housing creates underinvestment, concentrates poverty and disadvantage, and makes it far harder to demolish crumbling, dated properties and build new flats - homes which by definition would be beyond the means of prior residents”


    “It does neither side of the equation any good - and I'm very tired of the left romanticising council estates, or pretending that all that is needed is a bit more investment. This is a structural issue at this point.”

    https://x.com/sebmilbank/status/2051427941188325526?s=46
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,449
    Nice to be reminded that the Lib Dems were originally the Social & Liberal Democrats - the SLD.

    I remember David Owen referring to them as "The Salads".
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,691
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    I know it's a pain but I'm afraid you reactionary righties can't expect to keep the mendacious populist lane all to yourselves. Given how wide it is it's only fair you share it with others.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,892

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    While possessing empathy is generally a good thing for humanity, the secondary problem with lacking it is that you don't have the slightest clue about the motivations of those who oppose you. Not good for any politician but disastrous for the most powerful man in the world (sic) dabbling in geopolitics.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,208
    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    If the Tories were proposing it SquareRoot would be singing its praises.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,555
    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
    I think it is also a terribly British thing to be terribly uncomfortable to admit to having a cleaner at all.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,691

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    It strikes me youre the one who cannot see past headlines.

    The Islamic Republic is dead in all but name.

    It's economy is totally wrecked
    It will need all its money to repair the war damage
    There will be no spare cash to fund proxies
    It has a seethingly discontent population
    In 5-10 years the Carribean basin will be a more reliable oil supplier than the Gulf so even less cash

    Iran is screwed
    Lol. You should apply for a job at the White House.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    I don't think a lack of understanding about Iran's goals is currently the biggest problem. The problem is that the attack on Iran failed, and Trump is refusing to accept that failure. The Iranians will continue to keep the Strait closed until Trump accepts defeat and accedes to at least some of their demands (such as charging tolls on passage through the Strait as a reparations mechanism, or closure of US bases in the Middle East).

    Now it's possible that Iran are miscalculating and overplaying their hand. But they seem to have exceeded expectations on their ability to persist and resist the whole way through.

    Maybe the Strait of Hormuz doesn't reopen while Trump is President?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    On the header,

    1 - I think that the Greens will go over the hill just as Reform have already started doing - unless they manage to sort out their politics between whatever they are now nationally - and it is not clear to me what that is - and traditional Green.

    2 - Jenrick - I'm really not sure. He is champion as a self-serving backstabbing traitor, which should work well in the contemporary Conservative Party. But ... I'm still a little Hmmm.

    3 - I have seen speculation about making the General Election system alternative vote, which has advantages at thios time with an X party environment. But it is innovative and a little bold, so SKS won't do it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,567
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
    I think it is also a terribly British thing to be terribly uncomfortable to admit to having a cleaner at all.
    The absolute worst thing about the pandemic for me was that I had to clean my own house as well as wash and iron my clothes.

    I’ve employed a cleaner from 2000 onwards so this was a new hell for me.
  • Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,208

    nico67 said:

    Burnham spinning again?

    Angela Rayner unlikely to win unions’ support to replace Keir Starmer

    ‘All roads lead to Andy Burnham,’ insiders claim as Unite, Unison and GMB appear reluctant to support a leadership challenge from the former deputy


    Britain’s three largest unions are unlikely to back Angela Rayner if she challenges Sir Keir Starmer to become leader of the Labour Party, The Times understands.

    Senior figures in Unite, Unison and GMB, which together account for the majority of the party’s affiliated membership, have signalled that they may not back the former deputy prime minister if she runs against Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, dealing a significant blow to any formal campaign she may mount.

    Rayner has long touted her support for the unions and rose through Unison’s ranks to become its most senior official in the northwest of England before becoming an MP.

    Union backing is key in Labour leadership races and any challenger needs to secure nominations from at least two of them to get on the ballot. Affiliated union members then get a vote in the contest.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/angela-rayner-keir-starmer-news-wlddznvz2

    What if a leadership race starts before the next coming of Christ has had a chance to get back into the Commons ?

    1 Therefore Burnham needs to delay the leadership election.

    2 Therefore left wingers need to fear the 'ditch Starmer get Streeting' scenario.

    3 Therefore this.
    "1. Therefore Burnham needs to delay the leadership election" amounts to saying that Burnham needs to persuade 80% of Labour MPs not to nominate a rival, in whose interests it is to force a contest before Burnham can arrive on the scene. Even if he was the Next Coming of Christ that would be difficult.

    Also, the Labour "soft left" does not really need to fear the "ditch Starmer get Streeting" scenario because Rayner or otherwise Miliband will stand to avoid Streeting having the contest v Starmer to himself, and both would be expected to beat Streeting.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,928

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
    I think it is also a terribly British thing to be terribly uncomfortable to admit to having a cleaner at all.
    The absolute worst thing about the pandemic for me was that I had to clean my own house as well as wash and iron my clothes.

    I’ve employed a cleaner from 2000 onwards so this was a new hell for me.
    I remember being wryly amused that the pandemic meant I ended up going out more (shopping for my parents).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,526

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They aren’t all like that.

    Sounds like a crap one.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
    I think it is also a terribly British thing to be terribly uncomfortable to admit to having a cleaner at all.
    The absolute worst thing about the pandemic for me was that I had to clean my own house as well as wash and iron my clothes.

    I’ve employed a cleaner from 2000 onwards so this was a new hell for me.
    Likewise. I had to do HOOVERING

    FFS

    In truth I think I was so depressed I quickly gave up cleaning and just let everything fester for five months
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,878

    nico67 said:

    Burnham spinning again?

    Angela Rayner unlikely to win unions’ support to replace Keir Starmer

    ‘All roads lead to Andy Burnham,’ insiders claim as Unite, Unison and GMB appear reluctant to support a leadership challenge from the former deputy


    Britain’s three largest unions are unlikely to back Angela Rayner if she challenges Sir Keir Starmer to become leader of the Labour Party, The Times understands.

    Senior figures in Unite, Unison and GMB, which together account for the majority of the party’s affiliated membership, have signalled that they may not back the former deputy prime minister if she runs against Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, dealing a significant blow to any formal campaign she may mount.

    Rayner has long touted her support for the unions and rose through Unison’s ranks to become its most senior official in the northwest of England before becoming an MP.

    Union backing is key in Labour leadership races and any challenger needs to secure nominations from at least two of them to get on the ballot. Affiliated union members then get a vote in the contest.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/angela-rayner-keir-starmer-news-wlddznvz2

    What if a leadership race starts before the next coming of Christ has had a chance to get back into the Commons ?

    1 Therefore Burnham needs to delay the leadership election.

    2 Therefore left wingers need to fear the 'ditch Starmer get Streeting' scenario.

    3 Therefore this.
    "1. Therefore Burnham needs to delay the leadership election" amounts to saying that Burnham needs to persuade 80% of Labour MPs not to nominate a rival, in whose interests it is to force a contest before Burnham can arrive on the scene. Even if he was the Next Coming of Christ that would be difficult.

    Also, the Labour "soft left" does not really need to fear the "ditch Starmer get Streeting" scenario because Rayner or otherwise Miliband will stand to avoid Streeting having the contest v Starmer to himself, and both would be expected to beat Streeting.
    "Otherwise Miliband" sounds like his Hobbit name.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,866
    dixiedean said:

    One thing we can glean from this Iran fiasco is that stock markets have no bloody idea.

    Like evolution.

    A lot of random noise, out of which a bit of useful signal very slowly emerges. Very very slowly.

    With skeletons as far as the eye can see on either side.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    edited May 6

    MattW said:

    FF43 said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    This analysis is interesting in a geeky way. Tumble-dryers are quite efficient providing you stop before the clothes are completely dry and finish them off through airing. Problem is, people run them too long.

    https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2025/10/05/tumble-dryer-efficiency/
    For real efficiency -> washing line under a shelter or a drying rack. I use my second shower and a small dehumidifier.

    It's just the Telegraph trolling the basement dwellers of Tunbridge Wells. The Two Minute Hate is important. It will be the same sort of 7 day wonder as the LED light bulb outrage.
    You have space - “second shower”…

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.
    Indeed I have space. And I'm a fan of walk-in showers. I've lived in flats which would struggle for space for a tumble dryer anywhere. In reality anywhere sensible needs 3 spaces - washer, dryer, tumble dryer *, where if they only need 2 the other one is suitable for a kitchen bin, or a dog basket.

    It can always be done with an over the bath drying rack or overnight in the main bathroom or shower.

    Or "pulleys" (such as a Sheila Maid) have been making a huge comeback over the last 20 years. Today's picture of the day:



    * Washer-dryers being horrible things. Years ago I helped someone knock £10 a week off her electricity bill by telling her to swap the washer-dryer for two appliances.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    Your neighbour bought a badly-designed tumble dryer. That it uses a heat pump is neither here nor there. My heat pump tumble dryer is better designed and I'm very happy with it.
  • isamisam Posts: 44,230
    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    I shared a house with a young French girl about twenty years ago, when James D Watson made his controversial comments about race and IQ. We discussed it and she said even if he were proven to be right, she wouldn’t believe it and thought we should carry on as if he were wrong.

    I’m not saying he was right, I struggle to see how it could be proven one way or the other, but it did surprise me she thought that way, and it is proof that people will, or are prepared to, value consoling facts over hard truths . I suppose it is a more compassionate view and the left want/aim to be compassionate.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,949
    Picture of the day (well, it was a few days ago):


  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They take longer as they run at 50C not 70C (roughly). And take longer, but use 50% to 70% less energy. The Telegraph article has some decent numbers in it, though not all of the numbers, whilst making all the contrary points it can scrape up.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,342

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Having the paragraph in bold contain the word ‘Tories’ four times, plus a ‘Tory’, is extraordinary

    Somebody hates elegant variation

    Somebody’s not read some of Sir Winston Churchill’s works.
    I’ve never read any of them. Did he constantly repeat the same word in sentences as well? Doesn’t appeal if so, sounds grating

    The paragraph beginning with ‘Whilst’ is almost unreadable by the way
    Well, he won a Nobel prize for Literature, so some people think he was quite a good writer…
    I do kind of see that one as a bit like Ukraine winning Eurovision in 2022 - few begrudge them the victory, but it pretty obviously wasn't the best song.

    Churchill wasn't at all bad as a writer, but there were clearly other reasons at play for the award.
    Are you suggesting that the Nobel Committee have political motives for making an award? *Obama waves*

    Or not awarding one? *Trump rages*
    Obama fully deserved his Nobel Prize for Not Being George Bush.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,567
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Phil said:

    Moron Miliband decides to.piss off households

    Miliband bans traditional tumble dryers in net zero drive https://share.google/kXQZpSa71IWSsEMW5

    Typical bedwetting from the Torygraph. Hardly anyone will know or care.
    They will as it will cost more to buy and more to.
    Use. He is an epic cnt
    Heat pump tumble dryers are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to use & the lower electricity costs over their lifetime vastly outweighs the initial extra expense.

    Plus you can put the things anywhere & don’t have to watch all that lovely heat being vented out of the house in winter like all condenser tumble dryers.
    Yep. Bought our one a year and a bit ago and its ace.
    Same, my cleaner says it is awesome.
    I'd say the same, but the my wife would (a) kill me for calling her the cleaner and (b) she isn't very good at cleaning...
    This is a very British thing. Having a terrible cleaner but being too polite to mention anything

    I just occasionally mumble about “uhm, dusting” and leave it at that. Partly coz she’s also a true chirpy cockney lass in her later years. They’re a dying breed in these parts so I feel I’m
    doing my bit by paying her to not clean very well
    I think it is also a terribly British thing to be terribly uncomfortable to admit to having a cleaner at all.
    The absolute worst thing about the pandemic for me was that I had to clean my own house as well as wash and iron my clothes.

    I’ve employed a cleaner from 2000 onwards so this was a new hell for me.
    Likewise. I had to do HOOVERING

    FFS

    In truth I think I was so depressed I quickly gave up cleaning and just let everything fester for five months
    My other problem is that I am as germaphobe and neat freak, so I couldn’t leave things untidy.

    It was a circle of hell.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,342
    isam said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    I shared a house with a young French girl about twenty years ago, when James D Watson made his controversial comments about race and IQ. We discussed it and she said even if he were proven to be right, she wouldn’t believe it and thought we should carry on as if he were wrong.

    I’m not saying he was right, I struggle to see how it could be proven one way or the other, but it did surprise me she thought that way, and it is proof that people will, or are prepared to, value consoling facts over hard truths . I suppose it is a more compassionate view and the left want/aim to be compassionate.
    It worries me that the intelligentsia gets so worked up about IQ, both on right and left. It rarely matters much and in future Grok and ChatGPT will do all our thinking for us so IQ won't matter at all.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,516
    @davidheniguk.bsky.social‬

    Old school social media where an expert provides a more convincing explanation than you'll see elsewhere.

    @ashoro.co.uk‬

    Project Freedom was launched to “reopen” Hormuz.

    48 hours later it’s paused.

    That isn’t inconsistency. It tells us exactly what this operation was: a test, not a solution.

    Full analysis linked at the end.

    https://bsky.app/profile/ashoro.co.uk/post/3ml6442m2gl2r
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,342
    MattW said:

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They take longer as they run at 50C not 70C (roughly). And take longer, but use 50% to 70% less energy. The Telegraph article has some decent numbers in it, though not all of the numbers, whilst making all the contrary points it can scrape up.
    Has Miliband forgotten time matters and that electricity is often free, or is he just putting a green spin on an EU directive because despite Brexit, the largest markets call the shots?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,449

    Picture of the day (well, it was a few days ago):


    Sounds like a typical year in local government, with a side order of racism thrown in for good measure.

    Of the three Labour councillors we elected in our ward, only one ends their term as a Labour councillor.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They are not. Ours does not do that.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190
    isam said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    I shared a house with a young French girl about twenty years ago, when James D Watson made his controversial comments about race and IQ. We discussed it and she said even if he were proven to be right, she wouldn’t believe it and thought we should carry on as if he were wrong.

    I’m not saying he was right, I struggle to see how it could be proven one way or the other, but it did surprise me she thought that way, and it is proof that people will, or are prepared to, value consoling facts over hard truths . I suppose it is a more compassionate view and the left want/aim to be compassionate.
    We have a whole section of the population willing to believe that men can become women and vice versa. I still do not understand this belief.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499
    Brains Trust: Especially for PB Spectator Readers.

    What do our Spec Bros think of the Spectator Political Editor Michael Simmons?

    I've been listening to a little of his "Reality Checks" (10 minute 'fact check' videos) and interviews over the BH weekend.

    I'm not very impressed with the Reality Checks, as he sometimes seems to frame the things he is critiquing differently from what they are - eg the Green drugs policy was framed as legalisation rather than decriminalisation and failed to mention the aspects to undermine the criminal supply chain.

    As an interviewer, I find him better.

    Thoughts?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,789
    edited May 6

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Having the paragraph in bold contain the word ‘Tories’ four times, plus a ‘Tory’, is extraordinary

    Somebody hates elegant variation

    Somebody’s not read some of Sir Winston Churchill’s works.
    I’ve never read any of them. Did he constantly repeat the same word in sentences as well? Doesn’t appeal if so, sounds grating

    The paragraph beginning with ‘Whilst’ is almost unreadable by the way
    Well, he won a Nobel prize for Literature, so some people think he was quite a good writer…
    I do kind of see that one as a bit like Ukraine winning Eurovision in 2022 - few begrudge them the victory, but it pretty obviously wasn't the best song.

    Churchill wasn't at all bad as a writer, but there were clearly other reasons at play for the award.
    Are you suggesting that the Nobel Committee have political motives for making an award? *Obama waves*

    Or not awarding one? *Trump rages*
    Obama fully deserved his Nobel Prize for Not Being George Bush.
    No he didn't.

    And it set a precedent for US Presidents thinking they can turn up in office and be given a Nobel prize........

    The Bush presidency was the one time in my life when I veered into anti-Americanism. But whatever mistakes they made, events of recent years have certainly encouraged me to have more sympathy with the neocons' antipathy towards the international community.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,449
    Anecdata:

    Postal voters vote - nudging an 80% return rate in some of the wards in Bradford, 70% on average, with still a couple of days to go.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383

    Anecdata:

    Postal voters vote - nudging an 80% return rate in some of the wards in Bradford, 70% on average, with still a couple of days to go.

    Not such good news for Reform then?
  • eekeek Posts: 33,916

    MattW said:

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They take longer as they run at 50C not 70C (roughly). And take longer, but use 50% to 70% less energy. The Telegraph article has some decent numbers in it, though not all of the numbers, whilst making all the contrary points it can scrape up.
    Has Miliband forgotten time matters and that electricity is often free, or is he just putting a green spin on an EU directive because despite Brexit, the largest markets call the shots?
    It’s a clothes dryer unless you are doing multiple loads all day every day the fact it takes hours longer is irrelevant
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,949

    Picture of the day (well, it was a few days ago):


    Sounds like a typical year in local government, with a side order of racism thrown in for good measure.

    Of the three Labour councillors we elected in our ward, only one ends their term as a Labour councillor.
    In Camden, I believe 47 Labour councillors were elected 4 years ago, and 44 ended their terms as such. The 3 who didn't were all because they got elected to Parliament in 2024. So, that's a 6% turnover and all for non-scandalous reasons. So, I think it's a bit unfair to call it typical!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,499

    MattW said:

    Heat pump dryers are vastly more efficient. Also safer - much less risk of fires.

    In addition, if you live in a small flat, with a conventional dryer, you either have to have an air duct to the outside (permission required to cut a 6 inch hole in the building) or you cook as the heat vents into the flat.

    One of my neighbours bought a heat pump tumble dryer. It takes around twice as long to dry a load as my standard dryer and it locks the door until the cycle completes, so no using it to warm clothes on a cold morning. If they're all that crap I'll be keeping my old dryer until it can’t be repaired any more.
    They take longer as they run at 50C not 70C (roughly). And take longer, but use 50% to 70% less energy. The Telegraph article has some decent numbers in it, though not all of the numbers, whilst making all the contrary points it can scrape up.
    Has Miliband forgotten time matters and that electricity is often free, or is he just putting a green spin on an EU directive because despite Brexit, the largest markets call the shots?
    It arguably helps with that, since a lower instant load (800W vs 2kW ... ish) makes it more likely to be entirely within the output of smaller solar installations for a longer portion of the year.

    With the 100s of k of people likely to install Plug-in-Solar later this year, that 800W and longer time period are a better match.

    (Unless we get into batteries.)
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 26,293
    kinabalu said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Iran’s Ambassador to Pakistan mocks Trump’s latest retreat.

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3ml67ygv4y22l

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    China has called for a “complete cessation of hostilities” in Iran with “the utmost urgency”.

    Xi has Trump wriggling on a hook now. Trump is off to Beijing in a few days and his ego won’t allow his big trip blowing up in his face…or getting cancelled. Explains some of his flipflopping.

    Trump's problem is that he's been as exposed as unwilling to accept casualties.

    And without a willingness to do so the US military is much reduced in capability.
    Trump's problem is he is a stupid, corrupt, senile narcissist. He refused to listen to his military advisors on what would happen. He appears unable to even understand what the Iranians want or might do. He's focused primarily on headlines (headlines about him, but avoiding headlines about him and Epstein).
    It strikes me youre the one who cannot see past headlines.

    The Islamic Republic is dead in all but name.

    It's economy is totally wrecked
    It will need all its money to repair the war damage
    There will be no spare cash to fund proxies
    It has a seethingly discontent population
    In 5-10 years the Carribean basin will be a more reliable oil supplier than the Gulf so even less cash

    Iran is screwed
    Lol. You should apply for a job at the White House.
    I think you need to get past just despising trump

    In 10 years time when he's not on the scene Iran will still be fked and not the power it once was.

    However to cheer you up I suspect the same will also be true of Israel as if the Middle east is no longer the focus of energy then the US will see its strategic concerns elsewhere
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,789

    Anecdata:

    Postal voters vote - nudging an 80% return rate in some of the wards in Bradford, 70% on average, with still a couple of days to go.

    Any idea what percentage of the votes will be postal? Local elections are not renowned for high turnouts.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,505

    Anecdata:

    Postal voters vote - nudging an 80% return rate in some of the wards in Bradford, 70% on average, with still a couple of days to go.

    How many have voted for the cousin of the 'community leader' ?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,383

    isam said:

    isam said:

    Having the paragraph in bold contain the word ‘Tories’ four times, plus a ‘Tory’, is extraordinary

    Somebody hates elegant variation

    Somebody’s not read some of Sir Winston Churchill’s works.
    I’ve never read any of them. Did he constantly repeat the same word in sentences as well? Doesn’t appeal if so, sounds grating

    The paragraph beginning with ‘Whilst’ is almost unreadable by the way
    Well, he won a Nobel prize for Literature, so some people think he was quite a good writer…
    I do kind of see that one as a bit like Ukraine winning Eurovision in 2022 - few begrudge them the victory, but it pretty obviously wasn't the best song.

    Churchill wasn't at all bad as a writer, but there were clearly other reasons at play for the award.
    Are you suggesting that the Nobel Committee have political motives for making an award? *Obama waves*

    Or not awarding one? *Trump rages*
    Obama fully deserved his Nobel Prize for Not Being George Bush.
    In which case it should have been given to the American people.

    And Trump could have claimed one back in the day - and not bent the planet out of shape in pursuit of one.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    Zack Polanski: "The Green Party are an anti-racist party"
    Nick Robinson: "You can't just say the words 'we're an anti-racist party' when I've just read you out five of the most revolting comments"

    Lol

    Sure he can as long as there are people who will believe it. I fear that young women in particular seem to be susceptible to social media manipulation by these types just as young men have become susceptible to social media manipulation by Andrew Tate and others like him.
    It’s like the young women I met in Africa. Bright, smart, likeable, kind. But they’ve been persuaded to believe obviously untrue things. Consoling “facts” which can be falsified in seconds. But they don’t want to hear the truth. They prefer the comforting lie - which is nearly always lefty and woke
    I shared a house with a young French girl about twenty years ago, when James D Watson made his controversial comments about race and IQ. We discussed it and she said even if he were proven to be right, she wouldn’t believe it and thought we should carry on as if he were wrong.

    I’m not saying he was right, I struggle to see how it could be proven one way or the other, but it did surprise me she thought that way, and it is proof that people will, or are prepared to, value consoling facts over hard truths . I suppose it is a more compassionate view and the left want/aim to be compassionate.
    It worries me that the intelligentsia gets so worked up about IQ, both on right and left. It rarely matters much and in future Grok and ChatGPT will do all our thinking for us so IQ won't matter at all.
    It matters because IF there are average racial differences in IQ then that might partly explain differing outcomes in education and income, and it’s not all down to “evil racist teachers and wicked bigoted corporations” and so forth

    Cf different mental strengths in men and women. Women have better social skills, men are better at making things. ON THE WHOLE

    However, I heartily agree that one of the positive by products of the coming tech revolution will be that all of this is rendered irrelevant. Speed the day
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 629
    anyone know a good location for public Holyrood Constituency odds/markets?
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