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edited April 9 in General
This would not be the result of a general election winning Leader of the Opposition – politicalbetting.com

You know you're in big trouble when your projected losses in local elections look more like a historical date.(figs: @stevefisher.bsky.social via @stephenkb.bsky.social)

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  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,560
    Yah!
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,673
    First not Yah
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,264
    First like the Tories
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,410
    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,470
    Is local politics the same as media politics?

    You have all these talking heads appearing on screens pontificating about issues over which they have no control (defence, immigration, economics etc) though they claim to have. Meanwhile locally everyone gets the hump over potholes and bins and dog shit.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,781
    edited April 9
    The Sixth Sick Sheikh's Sixth Sheep's Sick.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,286
    The problem is while the Conservatives are the main opposition in parliament, in the polls the main opposition to Labour, indeed the party now leading the polls, is Reform. Reform will almost certainly win the May local elections, making seat gains from both the Conservatives and Labour. The key for Kemi is to ensure the Conservatives are still second to Reform on the NEV, if so she can say she has ensured the Tories remain the main alternative to Reform. If however it is Labour second to Reform then Kemi will be under threat and Tory MPs will start to consider a VONC in her leadership and replacing her with Cleverly who they may think might get more tactical anti Reform votes from Labour and LD voters in Tory held seats. If the Greens are second to Reform on NEV then Starmer would be under threat too and Rayner might launch a leadership challenge
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 601

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    Depends on the poll. I've a feeling Labour might do worse. Not sure if Reform have slipped so very much. We'll see.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,139
    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,560
    malcolmg said:

    First not Yah

    Typical Nats.

    Don’t win according to the rules so they just announce that they won anyway
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,264
    Battlebus said:

    Is local politics the same as media politics?

    You have all these talking heads appearing on screens pontificating about issues over which they have no control (defence, immigration, economics etc) though they claim to have. Meanwhile locally everyone gets the hump over potholes and bins and dog shit.

    My feeling is that most people don't vote at all in the locals and of those that do, most vote to protest against the government of the day as a proxy for all the perceived iniquities in their daily lives. Local or national issues - not so much.

    These days the general fashion to dislike all politicians seems to trump everything. My anti-immigrant but 'definitely not racist' sister-in-law was explaining on the phone to Mrs P last night that the best approach is to spoil you ballot paper because 'that really makes a difference'.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,907
    A historical date like 1010? That was shortly before King Cnut took the throne, right?

    Unfortunately, Jenrick has now defected to Reform.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,264

    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections

    Which of Labour and the Tories will lose the highest percentage of seats the are defending?
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,362
    edited April 9
    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,673

    malcolmg said:

    First not Yah

    Typical Nats.

    Don’t win according to the rules so they just announce that they won anyway
    you invalidated your card , sorry for you but such is life
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,264

    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).

    You mean on https://www.politicalbetting.com?

    I am using it fine on MacOS and Safari
  • eekeek Posts: 34,254

    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).

    You mean on https://www.politicalbetting.com?

    I am using it fine on MacOS and Safari
    Snap - on MacOS with Brave and on Safari across my iphone and ipad.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,310
    I suspect voting will be inefficient in the locals. There will be lots of places that have traditionally been Lab or Con for so long that it’s not obvious who the alternative is. Tactical voting works when it’s obvious who to vote for to get out the party you don’t like.

    I suspect also that there will be a lot of Reform and Green councillors who get elected unexpectedly and don’t realise how much work being a councillor is. Look out for a slew of by-elections later in the year.

    Local elections typically have a low turnout, so local campaigns to get your supporters to the polling stations can matter more than in a general election. Will that save some Lab or Con seats?

    When no party is particularly loved, that’s also when independents and other local groups do well. Your Party isn’t standing, but YP activists have organised locally in many places.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,362
    edited April 9

    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).

    You mean on https://www.politicalbetting.com?

    I am using it fine on MacOS and Safari
    Yes, but weirdly it's working fine again now. Maybe some caching issue.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,988
    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,286
    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    The Tories will likely hold a few seats on the Scottish Borders, in Wales though they face falling even further back and even coming fifth behind the Greens
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,155

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,663
    eek said:

    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).

    You mean on https://www.politicalbetting.com?

    I am using it fine on MacOS and Safari
    Snap - on MacOS with Brave and on Safari across my iphone and ipad.
    Main site not working for me on phone, tablet or laptop.

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,663

    eek said:

    Is there any chance of the forum working on the main site again? Comments aren't appearing there when I view the site (on Android, and on Chrome on Ubuntu 24).

    You mean on https://www.politicalbetting.com?

    I am using it fine on MacOS and Safari
    Snap - on MacOS with Brave and on Safari across my iphone and ipad.
    Main site not working for me on phone, tablet or laptop.

    Now fixed!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,625
    @jfloyd314.bsky.social‬

    The self-censoring nature of many of the most important facts about Trump's presidencies is a load-bearing necessity for his career. The median voter cannot and will not believe that he is as bad as he actually is. They invent a less bad version of him that they can then be persuaded to support.

    @chathamharrison.bsky.social‬

    The sad thing is "the Trump Administration is trying to coerce the Catholic Church to support it by threatening military action against the Pope" is a thing you could never get John Q. Public to wrap his brain around. Ridiculous. "If this was true I'd have heard about it," they say, hearing about it
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
    The combination of reduced fertiliser and super El Nino is going to make things particularly severe across much of Africa.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247
    Scott_xP said:

    @jfloyd314.bsky.social‬

    The self-censoring nature of many of the most important facts about Trump's presidencies is a load-bearing necessity for his career. The median voter cannot and will not believe that he is as bad as he actually is. They invent a less bad version of him that they can then be persuaded to support.

    @chathamharrison.bsky.social‬

    The sad thing is "the Trump Administration is trying to coerce the Catholic Church to support it by threatening military action against the Pope" is a thing you could never get John Q. Public to wrap his brain around. Ridiculous. "If this was true I'd have heard about it," they say, hearing about it

    Perhaps Trump is embracing his inner Presbyterian after all.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,188
    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    He was down to hijack your ferries for CalMac to use. That will get him votes in the islands.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 9,119
    It’s depressing listening to Cooper wobbling away on Today. Unenlightening stuff that is either obvious or just deflection. I would love to know why Starmer replaced Lammy with her. For all that I think Lammy is a bit of a waste of space at least he clearly had a genuinely good relationship with Vance which might have had some small benefit in these times, not saying he would sway the US to do anything majorly different but at least would have a senior administration ear and communication channel outside of the mad king.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,131
    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,770

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    He was down to hijack your ferries for CalMac to use. That will get him votes in the islands.
    He's trying to get Cowes' shit?

    Well, an improvement on his usual bullshit.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500
    edited April 9
    Good morning

    I am confident Kemi will not face a vonc post May not least because she polls better than the brand and to turn that around needs stability and policies, especially for younger voters and on defence

    I think labour are facing their own crisis as Polanski and the Greens hijack labour's left and Muslim vote

    Kemi is not popular with some who want the conservatives to move more to the centre but that is not her path to winning votes

    If the conservatives are foolish enough to think a new leader will change their fortunes, when the spotlight is going to fall on Starmer and labour as they have a terrible night in May, then they deserve to fail
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,552
    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,474

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    Yes. There is hope though - In the medium term the collapse in the cost of solar (and now batteries) is going to transform the economies of some of the poorest and sunniest parts of the world.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,131
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
    Reform with incoherent policies, surely not!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,907
    Andy_JS said:

    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o

    I love the way the public sector make their own incompetence your problem.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,253
    Foxy said:

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
    The combination of reduced fertiliser and super El Nino is going to make things particularly severe across much of Africa.
    Been saying that for about a month. In the medium term the implications for fertiliser may be worse than they are for oil or gas. We could end up with a lot of hungry people.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,283
    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,286

    Good morning

    I am confident Kemi will not face a vonc post May not least because she polls better than the brand and to turn that around needs stability and policies, especially for younger voters and on defence

    I think labour are facing their own crisis as Polanski and the Greens hijack labour's left and Muslim vote

    Kemi is not popular with some who want the conservatives to move more to the centre but that is not her path to winning votes

    If the conservatives are foolish enough to think a new leader will change their fortunes, when the spotlight is going to fall on Starmer and labour as they have a terrible night in May, then they deserve to fail

    That assumes the Conservatives beat Labour in May, if the Conservatives win even fewer seats than Labour in May and even fall behind Labour on NEV Kemi will be having an even more terrible night than Starmer. Kemi needs to ensure the Conservatives are at least second in May to ensure her survival even if Reform still win
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,625
    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,474

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    He was down to hijack your ferries for CalMac to use. That will get him votes in the islands.
    Getting on a CalMac ferry later today (hopefully). Got the 10x42 just in case I see anything suspicious.
  • Jim_the_LurkerJim_the_Lurker Posts: 331

    Andy_JS said:

    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o

    I love the way the public sector make their own incompetence your problem.
    Although I think this is probably a function of interesting behaviour on the part of the universities rather than the SLC. The latest Private Eye had an article about certain unis playing fast and loose with part-time courses for revenue.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,253
    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    He just won't do I'm afraid. He needs replaced.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247
    Eabhal said:

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    Yes. There is hope though - In the medium term the collapse in the cost of solar (and now batteries) is going to transform the economies of some of the poorest and sunniest parts of the world.
    Yes, cheap solar is a great boon to Africa, but there is still great need for diesel as most transport is road based, and often huge distances. On one of my trips to Malawi the country ran out of diesel (a Forex issue, the country literally being too poor to buy any) and it was a major problem.

    Nitrogenous fertiliser made from natural gas is essential too, as subsistence farmers can be very dependent on depleted soils.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,253
    Eabhal said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    He was down to hijack your ferries for CalMac to use. That will get him votes in the islands.
    Getting on a CalMac ferry later today (hopefully). Got the 10x42 just in case I see anything suspicious.
    Well, I admire your optimism. Best of luck.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,988
    Foxy said:

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
    The combination of reduced fertiliser and super El Nino is going to make things particularly severe across much of Africa.
    I think that very few people are thinking about this. Even in government.

    They are assuming that the consequences will just be higher oil and gas prices.

    That will happen. But the secondary consequences are something else.

    And is won’t just be higher prices. To sustain usage (even with a cut) some countries and industries will go without.

    Oil & LNG usage in the short term is generally not optional.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,139
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
    'Everyone should just stay where they were born' is probably a pretty common view. It's the logical endpoint of the Somewheres vs. Anywheres theory of politics and Maurice Glasman has argued for something similar.

    I don't think it works. Partly because lots of us do want to move around (it's usually 'Everyone else should just stay where they were born') and partly because mobility feeds into the prosperity that we've all come to expect. But there is a human longing for a stable community that's just there, without us putting much effort in. That persists, even if you remove race and religion.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,770
    edited April 9

    Andy_JS said:

    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o

    I love the way the public sector make their own incompetence your problem.
    Are you referring to the universities or the Student Loan Company?

    Since the Student Loan Company literally can't read or complete simple paperwork, and are known as the Stupid Loan Company while their long-serving head of repayments was so inept he was known as Kevin O'Cockup by his own staff...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500
    edited April 9
    HYUFD said:

    Good morning

    I am confident Kemi will not face a vonc post May not least because she polls better than the brand and to turn that around needs stability and policies, especially for younger voters and on defence

    I think labour are facing their own crisis as Polanski and the Greens hijack labour's left and Muslim vote

    Kemi is not popular with some who want the conservatives to move more to the centre but that is not her path to winning votes

    If the conservatives are foolish enough to think a new leader will change their fortunes, when the spotlight is going to fall on Starmer and labour as they have a terrible night in May, then they deserve to fail

    That assumes the Conservatives beat Labour in May, if the Conservatives win even fewer seats than Labour in May and even fall behind Labour on NEV Kemi will be having an even more terrible night than Starmer. Kemi needs to ensure the Conservatives are at least second in May to ensure her survival even if Reform still win
    No point in this discussion
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,183

    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections

    Which of Labour and the Tories will lose the highest percentage of seats the are defending?
    My model shows Labour losing 57% of their seats with Tories losing 51% of their seats.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,770

    Andy_JS said:

    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o

    I love the way the public sector make their own incompetence your problem.
    Although I think this is probably a function of interesting behaviour on the part of the universities rather than the SLC. The latest Private Eye had an article about certain unis playing fast and loose with part-time courses for revenue.
    Even if they had the SLC would probably not have noticed. They don't usually read the paperwork they're sent.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,770
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It will require Dutch courage.

    So Hegseth's your man.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    Rutte has been a fawning embarassment ever since he called Trump ' Daddy'
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,253

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
    'Everyone should just stay where they were born' is probably a pretty common view. It's the logical endpoint of the Somewheres vs. Anywheres theory of politics and Maurice Glasman has argued for something similar.

    I don't think it works. Partly because lots of us do want to move around (it's usually 'Everyone else should just stay where they were born') and partly because mobility feeds into the prosperity that we've all come to expect. But there is a human longing for a stable community that's just there, without us putting much effort in. That persists, even if you remove race and religion.
    We got a Reform leaflet (have to say we have had 3 from the SNP and none from anyone else yet). It says they want to abolish net zero, restart drilling in the North Sea, stop immigrants by stopping the boats, restore Scottish education after 2 decades of failure, building more homes, protect our women and girls by giving them back safe spaces. Nothing about immigration from England.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,410
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
    Fascinating. The bigotry of the hardline Yes supporters without leaving the Union.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,183
    This morning, just sold 60% of my ISA Equities fund.
    I'm not inside Trump's circle and this is not financial advice!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,283
    edited April 9
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,625

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    Rutte has been a fawning embarassment ever since he called Trump ' Daddy'
    I just saw him referred to as Theon Greyjoy
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,253

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    Rutte has been a fawning embarassment ever since he called Trump ' Daddy'
    He clearly thinks that sucking up to Trump is the best way of holding NATO together so it does not fall apart on his watch. Which is understandable but I'm not sure he is reading the room very well.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,474
    If anyone is baffled about why so many people are considering the Greens, look at the comments from Sarwar yesterday about cycle lanes.

    Now, I understand that the motoring/pensioner segment of the population is by far the most important electorally, but there is a real sense that the other parties simply do not care about you unless you’re over 60 and live in suburbia. This is particularly the case with the Scottish Lib Dems, I’m afraid. Reform actually directly attacked my age group.

    There’s a reason the SNP have a 20 point lead. A very large proportion of the Scottish population live in dense urban areas and none of the UK parties are fighting in that space.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,283
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    Rutte has been a fawning embarassment ever since he called Trump ' Daddy'
    I just saw him referred to as Theon Greyjoy
    Worse than that - he emasculated himself.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,139
    Barnesian said:

    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections

    Which of Labour and the Tories will lose the highest percentage of seats the are defending?
    My model shows Labour losing 57% of their seats with Tories losing 51% of their seats.
    Last year, both the reds and the blues held about a third of the seats they were defending.

    But, as I'm sure most of us recognise... Labour are in government, and it's not going well. It doesn't matter how much that is bad luck and how much is bad judgement, they get the blame. Their unpopularity is kind of understandable.

    The Conservatives are in opposition, with a billion free hits at the government. They are doing worse in the polls than in the rout of 2024, and Kemi's positives are within MoE of Useless Old Starmer's. Fewer negatives, but she hasn't done anything so she can't annoy people.

    Doing as badly as the Worst Government Ever®, and nobody seems that bothered.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,781

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Sounds dodgy for charity rowers.
  • Eabhal said:

    If anyone is baffled about why so many people are considering the Greens, look at the comments from Sarwar yesterday about cycle lanes.

    Now, I understand that the motoring/pensioner segment of the population is by far the most important electorally, but there is a real sense that the other parties simply do not care about you unless you’re over 60 and live in suburbia. This is particularly the case with the Scottish Lib Dems, I’m afraid. Reform actually directly attacked my age group.

    There’s a reason the SNP have a 20 point lead. A very large proportion of the Scottish population live in dense urban areas and none of the UK parties are fighting in that space.

    To be honest I feel like this in London where Reform seemingly only want to attack my city as a crime hole and full of awful people.

    Nobody is really aiming at people that actually work between the ages of 25 and 40. I thought Reform might actually do it but they’ve gone for the triple lock.

    If Labour somehow cut my taxes by 2029 (they won’t but just pretend) they’ll have done one more thing than anyone has done for us since 2010.

    It’s honestly a joke how the people actually doing the work in this country get completely ignored in basically every debate.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,781

    Andy_JS said:

    "More than 20,000 students have been told they were given maintenance loans and grants in error and now face demands to immediately pay the money back.

    The students, who are all studying weekend courses, received letters from the Student Loans Company (SLC) or their university saying their courses had never been eligible for maintenance loans or childcare grants.

    One letter, from the SLC and seen by the BBC, says the student's university provided incorrect information and "unfortunately, they didn't tell us you only attended on the weekend".

    It states that any "over-payment" will have to be repaid.

    The BBC understands courses at 15 universities and colleges including London Met, Bath Spa, Leeds Trinity, Southampton Solent and Oxford Brookes are affected."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq593g970z7o

    I love the way the public sector make their own incompetence your problem.
    (*&$£%& DVLA !

    :frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning:
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,924
    Barnesian said:

    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections

    Which of Labour and the Tories will lose the highest percentage of seats the are defending?
    My model shows Labour losing 57% of their seats with Tories losing 51% of their seats.
    What does your model say fir the other three main parties ?
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 601
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
  • scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    Do you honestly think this war has been a success?
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,924
    Foxy said:

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
    The combination of reduced fertiliser and super El Nino is going to make things particularly severe across much of Africa.
    A price worth paying according to the likes of Bart who won’t have to pay it !!!!
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,183
    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    A curious blindspot noted by Sam Freedman;

    For Labour exactly how bad matters a lot - both for Starmer personally and whether they lose dominance of the left bloc to the Greens.

    The Tories will, if anything, do worse. But weirdly they don't seem to care much anymore.


    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mixz5dv7jx2o

    Incidentally, am I missing something? According to the Wikipedia page, Labour are defending 2196 seats, and the Conservatives 1134. Both parties are doing badly, but surely not that badly. Surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_Kingdom_local_elections

    Which of Labour and the Tories will lose the highest percentage of seats the are defending?
    My model shows Labour losing 57% of their seats with Tories losing 51% of their seats.
    What does your model say fir the other three main parties ?


    ..
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,924
    Barnesian said:

    This morning, just sold 60% of my ISA Equities fund.
    I'm not inside Trump's circle and this is not financial advice!

    Sitting in cash or more defensive assets ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,924

    Happy end of oil deliveries from the gulf in Europe day.

    A reminder - other, completely uninvolved countries that aren’t in the news are getting a bat to the side of the head.

    In many poorer countries, economy is heavily reliant on oil. When prices go up, the poorest don’t eat.

    The lack of discussion about this in the British news is interesting. I wonder if it’s intentional to avoid panic.
    The MSM loves a panic. It’s click bait and traffic to their websites manna from heaven
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,283
    scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    Well done missing the point entirely.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,183
    Taz said:

    Barnesian said:

    This morning, just sold 60% of my ISA Equities fund.
    I'm not inside Trump's circle and this is not financial advice!

    Sitting in cash or more defensive assets ?
    Sitting in cash for the moment.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,254

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Got to love the supposed risk of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries exploding

    1) it's not pure lithium so unlikely
    2) it's a 4000 acre site, they aren't placing the batteries 20 feet from your home..
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 601

    scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    Do you honestly think this war has been a success?
    WTAF has that to do with anything? Call me whatever you like - not bothered.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,247
    Barnesian said:

    This morning, just sold 60% of my ISA Equities fund.
    I'm not inside Trump's circle and this is not financial advice!

    I have been about 1/3 cash in my portfolio, and most of the rest fairly defensive for a few months, but the markets still seem to be defying gravity. Down slightly today, but not by much, despire little movement at Hormuz.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,283
    Talking of Theon Greyjoys.

    Acting AG Todd Blanche: "I love working for President Trump. It's the greatest honor of a lifetime. And if President Trump chooses to nominate somebody else and asks me to go do something else, I'll say, 'Thank you very much, I love you, sir.'"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2041583708927340801
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,286
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Suspect the polls are lagging. Plenty of indicators that Reform are on the slide which puts into question how many they scalp off the LabCon. They will do very well, but suspect the result will provide some relief to both Starmer and Badenoch as not as bad as predicted.

    I think too that the Tories are slightly more resilient in the Shires. It is going to be grim for the Tories in both Scotland and Wales.

    I see Scotland's Reform leader was down on the Wight too for Easter. A man of the people, perhaps observing ferries from his yacht.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/malcolm-offord-missed-election-campaigning-36982889

    Offord wanted to get closer to the migrant boats, perhaps run down a few in his boat. I see the twat has called his yacht Braveheart, expect Reform candidates to have saltires painted on their faces by May.

    Connectedly McReform are warning of stranger danger, these strangers presumably being of the dusky hued variety rather than rosy cheeked English pensioners retiring to a more benevolent environment in Scotland.

    He'll prioritise strangers - Reform will prioritise you 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    Both Votes ➡️ Reform

    https://x.com/cllrtkerr/status/2041586697796764151?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    The Reform manifesto seems to oppose free migration from rUK to Scotland. Rather odd position for a Unionist party. Are they planning border posts to check if arrivals are sufficiently Scottish?

    "Reform in Scotland don't have a grasp of Scotland or the union. Their Scottish manifesto for the Holyrood election lambasts the SNP Government for "welcoming uncontrolled immigration from the rest of the UK". Which is what being in the UK entails for Scotland! https://www.reformparty.uk/view-pdf/scotland-manifesto"

    https://bsky.app/profile/gerryhassan.bsky.social/post/3mizdxcln422l
    Over a third of Scots voted Leave, the SNP government has told the UK government Scotland would welcome having more immigrants. Reform are currently polling 15 to 20% so there are plenty more Scottish Leave voters this policy will target
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,139
    eek said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Got to love the supposed risk of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries exploding

    1) it's not pure lithium so unlikely
    2) it's a 4000 acre site, they aren't placing the batteries 20 feet from your home..
    First rule of NIMBY is that you start with the "we don't want change" real objection, then smother it in half-understood FUD excuses.

    But by 2029, a lot of this infrastructure will be in the ground doing its stuff.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500
    scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    You are missing the point

    You have to project strength and make your argument and not fawn over Trump and call him Daddy

    Rutte needs replacing and quickly
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Yes apparently
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,183
    Foxy said:

    Barnesian said:

    This morning, just sold 60% of my ISA Equities fund.
    I'm not inside Trump's circle and this is not financial advice!

    I have been about 1/3 cash in my portfolio, and most of the rest fairly defensive for a few months, but the markets still seem to be defying gravity. Down slightly today, but not by much, despire little movement at Hormuz.
    My portfolio isn't very balanced. Nearly 50% is RR and BA. They've done well.
    I thought the market would crash today after Israel's wrecking ball so I sold across the board at just after 8am. Markets now just slightly down, but Trump isn't up yet.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,189
    My word.

    Gianpiero Lambiase to join McLaren from 2028.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,310

    We'll soon know who is standing where:

    Thursday, 9 April: Last date for delivery of nomination papers (4pm)
    Friday, 10 April: Statement of Persons Nominated is published (the list of candidates standing in the election)

    My papers went in on Tuesday.

    Mine went in a week and a half ago, and there is a sad story to tell about what happened, but perhaps also a story interesting to election nerds.

    I'm standing in a 3 member ward, so we put in 3 candidates. Shortly after the paperwork had gone in, we received the very sad news that one of the candidates had had a heart attack and died. Obviously, this was tragic at a personal level. He was in his early 70s, but the death was unexpected.

    However, it also created a problem for the election. The Electoral Commission website says, "If the RO is notified of a candidate’s death during the election campaign or even on polling day itself (but before the declaration of the result), the poll will be cancelled." The election then has to be re-held, an expense for the Borough. However, our Borough's lawyer went back to the legislation, argued with the Electoral Commission and won. The Borough concluded that a candidate dying before the close of nominations does not invalidate the election. We are sticking with the normal timetable. We've been able to find a new, third candidate and have submitted the paperwork.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,366
    scampi25 said:

    scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    Do you honestly think this war has been a success?
    WTAF has that to do with anything? Call me whatever you like - not bothered.
    If I may make a casual observation, apropos of nothing, that the 25 in your username seems unusually ill fitting at the moment.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,034

    My word.

    Gianpiero Lambiase to join McLaren from 2028.

    Yeah, saw that earlier.

    Quite the surprise. Verstappen rumours of leaving F1 will only increase.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,139

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Yes apparently
    They have to say that now, because conceding defeat will look weak.

    But a shiny sixpence says that, in the dismal event of a Reform government, they won't tear all this stuff down.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,432
    Pro_Rata said:

    scampi25 said:

    scampi25 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Rutte going massively outside his brief again.
    What business is it of the NATO secretary general (who is not a US citizen) to support Trump's threats against Iran ?
    The large majority of NATO members oppose Trump's war.

    Absolutely bizarre.

    TAPPER: When Trump threatened to kill the entire Iranian civilization, did that bother you as a diplomat?

    MARK RUTTE: I'm not commenting. What I want you to know is I support the president

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2042013117413044462

    We talk about impeachment and the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. How do we get rid of Rutte?
    It's not easy.
    Sec Gens are appointed by consensus (effectively unanimous) and have four year terms.
    There's no real mechanism - other than consensus again - for removal. Or wait a couple if years for the end of his term.

    I guess public censure might be worth a try.

    And actively supporting one member state against the wishes of the others directly contradicts the terms of his brief.
    It's so awful that the head of NATO refuses to follow the dictates of PB collective wisdom and call Donald Trump nasty names in the name of diplomacy. For sure he's in no position to know the true state of the alliance's capability to cope without US backing and rely instead on the might of Spain for example to save us all from the Russian threat. Perhaps we need a new Armada here to tackle those pesky warships off the channel coast yesterday.....
    Do you honestly think this war has been a success?
    WTAF has that to do with anything? Call me whatever you like - not bothered.
    If I may make a casual observation, apropos of nothing, that the 25 in your username seems unusually ill fitting at the moment.
    He's 101 :-)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,189

    My word.

    Gianpiero Lambiase to join McLaren from 2028.

    Yeah, saw that earlier.

    Quite the surprise. Verstappen rumours of leaving F1 will only increase.
    Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,500

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Yes apparently
    They have to say that now, because conceding defeat will look weak.

    But a shiny sixpence says that, in the dismal event of a Reform government, they won't tear all this stuff down.
    You would hope not
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,092
    eek said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0r4mxevdvo

    Government approves UK's largest solar farm

    Presumably Reform would tear this down?

    Got to love the supposed risk of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries exploding

    1) it's not pure lithium so unlikely
    2) it's a 4000 acre site, they aren't placing the batteries 20 feet from your home..
    The protesters were protesting a large site that operates silently, has no/few moving parts, requires little maintenance, produces clean energy, because it...doesn't look like a field?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,034

    My word.

    Gianpiero Lambiase to join McLaren from 2028.

    Yeah, saw that earlier.

    Quite the surprise. Verstappen rumours of leaving F1 will only increase.
    Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
    Don't count the chickens just yet. They need to make changes to the regulations this year and there will be an absolute clamour for sooner-than-planned wholesale changes.
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