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  • Labour and the Tories are within spitting image of first and a tie with Reform.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,907


    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    They are no longer the shiny new pin for the dissatisfied (Pokanski and Lowe are the new thing) and it's simply not possible to keep your vote absolutely raging for 5 years which they need for 'full potential'.
    And Nadhim Zahawi
    Jenrick. He poisoned the well. He embodies the slimy Tories they were looking to escape.

    And Nadhim Zahawi didn't help. He also embodies the slimy Tories they were looking to escape.
  • If Labour starts leading any polls surely the pressure on Starmer recedes further. The implication is he’s a loser.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,907
    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Foxy said:


    Cookie said:

    My guess is that 75% of the movement in public opinion on Brexit is nostalgia for the time before Trump, Covid and Ukraine.

    Nostalgia for an imaginary period before Brexit.

    The 2006-2016 period wasn't the best in the UK - bank crashes, high unemployment, uncontrolled immigration and then public spending restrictions.

    You'd have to go back to between 1995 and 2005 for a period when things seemed good and the future rosy.
    The Blair Years...
    There was never a better time to be PM than what Blair had.

    And what did he achieve during it ?
    48 quarters of successive growth
    Peace in Northern Island.
    Much of the credit there should go to Major.
    Jeez, that desperate baloney
    Hardly. Blair just caved to the 'Ra. Anybody could have done that.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,833


    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    They are no longer the shiny new pin for the dissatisfied (Pokanski and Lowe are the new thing) and it's simply not possible to keep your vote absolutely raging for 5 years which they need for 'full potential'.
    And Nadhim Zahawi
    Jenrick. He poisoned the well. He embodies the slimy Tories they were looking to escape.

    And Nadhim Zahawi didn't help. He also embodies the slimy Tories they were looking to escape.
    'We cant offer you anything new but don't worry, we won't just rehash the Tory government of old. We will restrict ourselves to the ones you least liked'
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,040

    NEW THREAD

  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,642

    If Labour starts leading any polls surely the pressure on Starmer recedes further. The implication is he’s a loser.


    More likely the pressure on Badenoch and Farage builds
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,833

    Labour and the Tories are within spitting image of first and a tie with Reform.

    4 way tie on 20% is on my wish list for the neatness if nothing else
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,488


    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    They are no longer the shiny new pin for the dissatisfied (Pokanski and Lowe are the new thing) and it's simply not possible to keep your vote absolutely raging for 5 years which they need for 'full potential'.
    And Nadhim Zahawi
    And the Trump connection will become steadily more toxic for Farage.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,488
    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    Which makes the Tory move to out flank Reform on the right on foreign policy, immigration, race wars, and other issues, even more barmy.

    Tory leadership are going against the trend like a one legged army

    Right
    Right
    Right

    Barmy

    Shades of Heseltine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTCFTfI_EOY
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,642

    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    It is also down to media exposure. Farage has been silent since the early days of the war until he popped up with his mandatory smoking in public nonsense.

    Once GBN, the DT and Chris Mason fawn over him again Reform'll be fine.
    I'm not sure they will. The fawning was down to them being new and shiny as someone just said. At the moment they look like flared jeans and a tank top on any Saturday night in Oldham
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,649
    Nigelb said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    Morning all.
    YouGov brings a tightening

    Ref 23 (-2)
    Lab 19 (+2)
    Grn 18 (-1)
    Con 17 (=)
    LD 13 (-1)

    We are not far off an effective 4 way tie with YouGov

    It's clear Reform are on the skids. We can all have our own theories. Mine is that the zeitgeist has shifted. They have become associated with things that are now seen as ugly. Trump Netanyahu bombing lying ,,,,,,their USP that they could be more ruthless with people fleeing persecution dioesn't seem quite as attractive anymore.

    ........The people associated with them don't seem quite as fresh......hand me down politicians from a time not so long ago. Do they feel a little shop soiled?
    Which makes the Tory move to out flank Reform on the right on foreign policy, immigration, race wars, and other issues, even more barmy.

    Tory leadership are going against the trend like a one legged army

    Right
    Right
    Right

    Barmy

    Shades of Heseltine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTCFTfI_EOY
    It was one of the great political speeches, respect to a great orator.

    A real political heavyweight and still well worth listening to.
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