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By the pricking of my thumbs something wicked this way comes – politicalbetting.com

This Scottish play by Anas Sarwar to try and oust Sir Keir Starmer feels like a tipping point but only if Westminster cabinet members follow or others such as the Welsh First Minster, and metro mayors.

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,591
    First?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    Second rate. Which Starmer didn't even manage.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @catneilan.bsky.social‬

    Am told Eluned Morgan, First Minister of Wales, is going to follow Anas Sarwar in calling for the PM to stand down;

    Also that there will be "Scottish MP ministerial resignations" afterwards

    Ministers saying it's the end game...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,062
    Will this thread last longer than SKS as PM?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    GIN1138 said:

    Will this thread last longer than SKS as PM?

    Yes.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down
  • occasionalranteroccasionalranter Posts: 798
    Lots of Labour ministers visiting the dentist this afternoon.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,262
    occasionalranter said:

    Am I bard from pointing out the subtle puns until everyone's had a chance to spot them ?

    Yes.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,916
    Unless UK Cabinet Ministers start resigning and calling for Starmer to go it doesn't really matter what the secretary of their Scottish branch office says, especially as under his leadership Labour are now polling even worse in Scotland than in the UK overall
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,594
    The Celts wield the sword after being ignored by Westminster for far too long

    Proud of them
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 403
    occasionalranter said:

    Am I bard from pointing out the subtle puns until everyone's had a chance to spot them ?

    No - as you like it......
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    Reform might as well cancel their rally, nobody will notice it
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    It's sar-WAR!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,062
    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    He could get in the car, go down to the Palace and ask for HMK is dissolve Parliament. That is his final roll of the dice if he chooses.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,493
    occasionalranter said:

    Lots of Labour ministers visiting the dentist this afternoon.

    The dentist is holding a press conference at 2.30.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @estwebber

    Sidebar, but: Starmer is meant to go to the Munich Security Conference at the end of the week.

    Either he stays in post, and jets off just as he needs to steady the buffs at home - or the world meets in Munich with no British PM
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    HYUFD said:

    Unless UK Cabinet Ministers start resigning and calling for Starmer to go it doesn't really matter what the secretary of their Scottish branch office says, especially as under his leadership Labour are now polling even worse in Scotland than in the UK overall

    But Scotland and Wales have been the bedrock of Labour for most of the past century.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,243
    occasionalranter said:

    Lots of Labour ministers visiting the dentist this afternoon.

    Well it is Tooth Hurty in 9 mins
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 937
    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    Interesting thought! Part of me thinks that if he does, the Party get rid of him. But then wtf happens?
  • occasionalranteroccasionalranter Posts: 798
    Fairliered said:

    occasionalranter said:

    Lots of Labour ministers visiting the dentist this afternoon.

    The dentist is holding a press conference at 2.30.
    "Is it safe ?"
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    GIN1138 said:

    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    He could get in the car, go down to the Palace and ask for HMK is dissolve Parliament. That is his final roll of the dice if he chooses.
    Yep. (Political) Suicide by voter. Assisted death for Labour
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,262
    My 17 day holiday starts on Thursday.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,274
    FPTP
    Leon said:

    The BBC have finally managed to find a Labour figure willing to defend Starmer

    It’s “Paul Richards”

    He’s now claiming that flocks of people are “joining Labour in the last 48 hours just to show their support for Sir Keir”

    "Paul Richards" sounds like a 1980s TV magician.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    Scott_xP said:

    It's sar-WAR!

    What is he good for?

    Getting rid of Starmer...

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    Unpopular said:

    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    Interesting thought! Part of me thinks that if he does, the Party get rid of him. But then wtf happens?
    They fight a leadership election during a general election
  • occasionalranteroccasionalranter Posts: 798
    DavidL said:

    Of course it is one of the witches that says this as MacBeth, who has become a true monster under their pupillage, approaches. Starmer is no MacBeth. He's not evil. He's just been bewildered by a job that is beyond him because he has almost no political skills at all. Its a tough old job being PM of a country that is full of entitlements and empty of cash and people with a more political ear have also struggled. I just wish once he had decided he saw a chance to become PM that he had given some thought as to what he might want to do. Its not an end in itself. Ask Gordon Brown.

    Now now, that's a very fair and sensible comment, which is not at all what we're looking for.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @guy-normal.bsky.social‬

    quite funny that the entire Labour party has been spending months saying "let's wait for our Welsh and Scottish colleagues to be massacred before doing anything hasty" without really thinking through if anyone outside of England could hear them
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,347
    He'll be fine, as long as TSE doesn't go on leave.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,470
    If Starmer goes, imagine: we will never have to hear his stupid loathsome whining self-pitying pickle-up-his-bottom adenoidal boring robot voice EVER EVER AGAIN

    For that mercy alone, I would tolerate a Rayner premiership. For a few days

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    scampi25 said:

    occasionalranter said:

    Am I bard from pointing out the subtle puns until everyone's had a chance to spot them ?

    No - as you like it......
    Starmer - much ado about nothing...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,594
    HYUFD said:

    Unless UK Cabinet Ministers start resigning and calling for Starmer to go it doesn't really matter what the secretary of their Scottish branch office says, especially as under his leadership Labour are now polling even worse in Scotland than in the UK overall

    Branch office

    You are utterly stupid to downplay Scotland and it's people and Wales is about to join the call

    The Celts taking Starmer down is them saying enough
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,243
    If only I hadnt held my council about SKS, Mandelson, Austerity Reeves and the whole shitshow

    BTW I remember when i called Mandelson a friend of Epstein and the site owners Brother told me there was no evidence of that and I must not repeat it!! Oh well
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,262
    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    Goddamnit.

    If she had the next thread would have the headline ‘The Celts are revolting’.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 403
    The pound is plummeting against the euro....all's well that ends...not so well!😱😄
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,663
    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    Looks like Sir Kier lives to fight another day. Might be an idea to call in a few favours from friend Donald to move the news cycle on - get him to invade somewhere.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,916
    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    So just Sarwar going over the top without checking anyone would follow him then!
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,872
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    Goddamnit.

    If she had the next thread would have the headline ‘The Celts are revolting’.
    It's a very specific choice of language. The inclusion of 'today' can be read as suggesting she will speak of this tomorrow...
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,243
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    He'll be fine, as long as TSE doesn't go on leave.

    Can we start a gofundme for TSE's holiday!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    My 17 day holiday starts on Thursday.

    Would have started....
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 589
    Great Burnham Wood! Excellent!!
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,347
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    My 17 day holiday starts on Thursday.

    Will you please publish your leave sheets on here before submitting them in future, so that we can all short the markets.

    Thanks.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,724
    "by the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes / and if sleep takes you tonight will you wake to see the light?"

    Here is Jerusalem bound in chains, in the Dens of Babylon
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 403
    MarqueeMark said:

    scampi25 said:

    occasionalranter said:

    Am I bard from pointing out the subtle puns until everyone's had a chance to spot them ?

    No - as you like it......
    Starmer - much ado about nothing...
    Twas the best of times twas the worst of times... But what the dickens do I know!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    Andy_JS said:

    FPTP

    Leon said:

    The BBC have finally managed to find a Labour figure willing to defend Starmer

    It’s “Paul Richards”

    He’s now claiming that flocks of people are “joining Labour in the last 48 hours just to show their support for Sir Keir”

    "Paul Richards" sounds like a 1980s TV magician.
    Not a lot.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,594
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    So just Sarwar going over the top without checking anyone would follow him then!
    https://x.com/i/status/2020866327057953162
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,724
    occasionalranter said:

    Lots of Labour ministers visiting the dentist this afternoon.

    I love that story. John Major genuinely had wisdom teeth surgery, but as he was put under the Thatcha war blew up. When he resurfaced it became legend - "I was getting my teeth done"
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,274
    Maybe the Green leader will try to get into the Commons in Holborn & St Pancras if Starmer stands down completely.
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 937
    wooliedyed said:

    Unpopular said:

    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    Interesting thought! Part of me thinks that if he does, the Party get rid of him. But then wtf happens?
    They fight a leadership election during a general election
    That sounds like a suboptimal electoral strategy...
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,334
    HYUFD said:

    Unless UK Cabinet Ministers start resigning and calling for Starmer to go it doesn't really matter what the secretary of their Scottish branch office says, especially as under his leadership Labour are now polling even worse in Scotland than in the UK overall

    Cabinet ministers shouldn't have to resign to get the PM to do so. They should be able to simply tell him his time is up, and if enough of them do so he goes.

    It's a terrible innovation that they have to resign, as it's yet another indication of the erosion of Cabinet government, and that, as Cabinet ministers, they're all stooges of the PM.

    It gives Britain Presidential politics grafted onto a Parliamentary system. It's an awful mess.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,686
    Stark_Dawning said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    Looks like Sir Kier lives to fight another day. Might be an idea to call in a few favours from friend Donald to move the news cycle on - get him to invade somewhere.
    Mr Trump will probably set something up for himself when he realises that the MSM over here aren't looking at him.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    occasionalranter said:

    Leon said:

    If Starmer goes, imagine: we will never have to hear his stupid loathsome whining self-pitying pickle-up-his-bottom adenoidal boring robot voice EVER EVER AGAIN

    For that mercy alone, I would tolerate a Rayner premiership. For a few days

    I'm hearing this in the voice of Vivian complaining about Rick.
    Vivian grew up to be Nigel Farage. True that.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,924
    If the Welsh leader had come out today then it would probably be the end .

    Maybe she’s waiting to see what Starmer does after the backstabbing Judas north of the border gives his news conference .
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 272
    Scottish Labour has always done what Scottish Labour wants

    Wales or London would be very serious
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,470
    A member of my family writes on the family WhatsApp, of HMG


    “They couldn’t manage a small car park in Polperro without accidentally flooding it with sewage from Newquay”

    A gift for bruising political invective turns out to be a heritable trait

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,594
    nico67 said:

    If the Welsh leader had come out today then it would probably be the end .

    Maybe she’s waiting to see what Starmer does after the backstabbing Judas north of the border gives his news conference .

    https://x.com/i/status/2020866327057953162
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    Unpopular said:

    wooliedyed said:

    Unpopular said:

    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    Interesting thought! Part of me thinks that if he does, the Party get rid of him. But then wtf happens?
    They fight a leadership election during a general election
    That sounds like a suboptimal electoral strategy...
    Yep. That's why if SKS did go to the King (not predicting that BTW it was musing on chaos) they are stuck with him and a GE
    Unless he goes full Machiavelli, gets parly dissolved and immediately quits as Labour leader the day after dissolution
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,473
    edited 2:33PM
    Its a lot off lolly to give up for Cabinet minister to resign....67'500
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @DavidLammy
    ·
    2m
    Keir Starmer won a massive mandate 18 months ago, for five years to deliver on Labour’s manifesto that we all stood on.

    We should let nothing distract us from our mission to change Britain and we support the Prime Minister in doing that.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 272
    Stark_Dawning said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Boooooooooooooo

    @PippaCrerar

    NEW: Sources close to Eluned Morgan, Labour first minister in Wales, insist that she is not planning to say anything on Keir Starmer's leadership today - despite reports to the contrary.

    Looks like Sir Kier lives to fight another day. Might be an idea to call in a few favours from friend Donald to move the news cycle on - get him to invade somewhere.
    Well done Pippa

    First day on the new job?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,347
    nico67 said:

    If the Welsh leader had come out today then it would probably be the end .

    Maybe she’s waiting to see what Starmer does after the backstabbing Judas north of the border gives his news conference .

    She has a great bargaining position. Maybe Swansea Bay now gets that power generating system that has been discussed for so long.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,594
    David Lammy backs Starmer
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe the Green leader will try to get into the Commons in Holborn & St Pancras if Starmer stands down completely.

    Thatx very likely I think, especially if he can do a deal with Feinstein on a seat to stand down for YP for the next GE
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,243
    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe the Green leader will try to get into the Commons in Holborn & St Pancras if Starmer stands down completely.

    Yes just getting use from my Trestle table
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,207
    DavidL said:

    Of course it is one of the witches that says this as MacBeth, who has become a true monster under their pupillage, approaches. Starmer is no MacBeth. He's not evil. He's just been bewildered by a job that is beyond him because he has almost no political skills at all. Its a tough old job being PM of a country that is full of entitlements and empty of cash and people with a more political ear have also struggled. I just wish once he had decided he saw a chance to become PM that he had given some thought as to what he might want to do. Its not an end in itself. Ask Gordon Brown.

    And it's less the three witches, and more the three witless.

    Imagine being slain by Sarwar.
    An ignominious finale.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,872
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Lammy backs Starmer

    Hardly a full throated defence
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @AVMikhailova

    Labour source gets in touch:

    ‘Multiple resignations are about to happen. Sarwar is the springboard’

    The Scottish Labour leader is about to call for Starmer to go, fuelling speculation

    All eyes on Starmer’s ministers
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,564
    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    So, one of his better days?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,544
    AugustusCarp2 said:

    Great Burnham Wood! Excellent!!

    He would if he could but he can't.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,274
    "Lammy backs Starmer ahead of Sarwar speech"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c74wd01egvyt
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    Anas blows his load...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,274
    wooliedyed said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe the Green leader will try to get into the Commons in Holborn & St Pancras if Starmer stands down completely.

    Thatx very likely I think, especially if he can do a deal with Feinstein on a seat to stand down for YP for the next GE
    Camden Town and Primrose Hill will vote enthusiastically for Zack one would think.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,470
    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Alternatively, Sarwar can see that Labour is going to be marmalised in May in Scotland, so they have nothing more to lose and quite a lot to gain, if Skyr goes and they can get in a replacement who talks human

    Critics of Sarwar are basically saying “no, just climb out of the trench and walk towards the German machine guns. Don’t run”
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,544
    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Ok, to get my full Godwin quota in for today, Sarwar may be von Stauffenberg.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,243
    Sarwar man of few words
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    Scott_xP said:

    @DavidLammy
    ·
    2m
    Keir Starmer won a massive mandate 18 months ago, for five years to deliver on Labour’s manifesto that we all stood on.

    We should let nothing distract us from our mission to change Britain and we support the Prime Minister in doing that.

    Nothing. Not even the massive disaster of Mandelson and the Epstein stuff and the whole government collapsing.

    That's rather a lot of nothing, Mr Lammy.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,470
    Scott_xP said:

    @AVMikhailova

    Labour source gets in touch:

    ‘Multiple resignations are about to happen. Sarwar is the springboard’

    The Scottish Labour leader is about to call for Starmer to go, fuelling speculation

    All eyes on Starmer’s ministers

    OOOOH!

    Juicy

    I reckon it just takes 3 resignations to topple him. Don’t have to be senior figures. But 3 recognisable ministers

    I have plucked that figure out of my Cornish butt, and I have nothing to back it up apart from “feelz”
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @holyroodmandy

    Anas Sarwar says he is not supporting or backing any candidate to replace Starmer.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 272
    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @AVMikhailova

    Labour source gets in touch:

    ‘Multiple resignations are about to happen. Sarwar is the springboard’

    The Scottish Labour leader is about to call for Starmer to go, fuelling speculation

    All eyes on Starmer’s ministers

    OOOOH!

    Juicy

    I reckon it just takes 3 resignations to topple him. Don’t have to be senior figures. But 3 recognisable ministers

    I have plucked that figure out of my Cornish butt, and I have nothing to back it up apart from “feelz”
    Any odds in Sarwar going b4 Keir
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @euanmccolm

    Just saw Ian Murray dancing Gangnam Style down Princes Street.
  • PoodleInASlipstreamPoodleInASlipstream Posts: 699
    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Alternatively, Sarwar can see that Labour is going to be marmalised in May in Scotland, so they have nothing more to lose and quite a lot to gain, if Skyr goes and they can get in a replacement who talks human

    Critics of Sarwar are basically saying “no, just climb out of the trench and walk towards the German machine guns. Don’t run”
    Yes, Sarwar has nothing to lose and at least a little to gain. SLAB are going to get stomped and he knows it, so this neatly deflects at least some of the blame for that.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,737
    So Labour's got frit and now concluded that they need a working-class leftie for comfort, even though that almost certainly won't help them get re-elected. They might as well hand the keys to Farage now.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @kitty_donaldson

    NEW: Health Secretary Wes Streeting, doorstepped by reporters in Westminster, and asked if he has full confidence in Sir Keir Starmer refuses to reply.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @Steven_Swinford

    BREAKING:

    Sir Keir Starmer says he is going nowhere

    “Keir Starmer is one of only four Labour leaders ever to have won a general election.

    “He has a clear five-year mandate from the British people to deliver change, and that is what he will do.”
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,473
    Oh dear...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,782
    Labour is so dysfunctional they can't even manage a denfenestration without the whole window falling out onto the viewers below.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,207
    If no one backs him, Sarwar will be cooked.

    An Anas on pizza.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,171
    edited 2:46PM
    Scott_xP said:

    @kitty_donaldson

    NEW: Health Secretary Wes Streeting, doorstepped by reporters in Westminster, and asked if he has full confidence in Sir Keir Starmer refuses to reply.

    Little Jimmy Krankie sees his chance at glory
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @RachelReevesMP

    Rebuilding Britain takes time. But thanks to the decisions we've made NHS waiting lists are falling. Inflation is falling. Interest rates are falling. The conditions for the economy to grow are there.

    With Keir as our Prime Minister we are turning the country around.
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 1,004
    wooliedyed said:

    It would be fitting if this ends with Starmer calling a suicide election. The thing they thought Boris might try to save his skin but was too frit is how SKS chooses to go down

    Hope so. There's a popcorn maker on olio I've been eyeing up
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,470
    PoodleInASlipstream said:

    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Alternatively, Sarwar can see that Labour is going to be marmalised in May in Scotland, so they have nothing more to lose and quite a lot to gain, if Skyr goes and they can get in a replacement who talks human

    Critics of Sarwar are basically saying “no, just climb out of the trench and walk towards the German machine guns. Don’t run”
    Yes, Sarwar has nothing to lose and at least a little to gain. SLAB are going to get stomped and he knows it, so this neatly deflects at least some of the blame for that.
    if Starmer survives this putsch, will he have the power to sack Sarwar? Surely Sarwar will have to go one way or another, if Starmer endures

    Either way Starmer will be gone by the end of the summer, if not the end of the day
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,262
    I love Shakespeare and I love puns.

    Can you tell?
  • eekeek Posts: 32,522
    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Alternatively, Sarwar can see that Labour is going to be marmalised in May in Scotland, so they have nothing more to lose and quite a lot to gain, if Skyr goes and they can get in a replacement who talks human

    Critics of Sarwar are basically saying “no, just climb out of the trench and walk towards the German machine guns. Don’t run”
    Sarwar can now say he tried his hardest but Mandelson was a distraction that cost him votes and seats in the Scottish elections.

    In reality it’s allowed him to pin the forthcoming May issues on SKS rather than his leadership
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,356
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    PoodleInASlipstream said:

    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Did Anas stick his neck out only to get his head chopped off?

    @ConnorGillies

    💥Very senior Scottish Labour source tells me this move by Sarwar is “idiocy, immature, incoherent and self defeating. Bad for the country, playing into our opponents hands, and without any idea of an end game.”

    Moment of real peril for Labour north and south of border.
    @SkyNews

    Alternatively, Sarwar can see that Labour is going to be marmalised in May in Scotland, so they have nothing more to lose and quite a lot to gain, if Skyr goes and they can get in a replacement who talks human

    Critics of Sarwar are basically saying “no, just climb out of the trench and walk towards the German machine guns. Don’t run”
    Yes, Sarwar has nothing to lose and at least a little to gain. SLAB are going to get stomped and he knows it, so this neatly deflects at least some of the blame for that.
    Not without justification IMO. I think there would have been a decent chance he ended up FM if Starmer had done a decent job. SNP have been in government since 2007, it's frankly ridiculous that Labour can't mount a challenge against a record that long.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @Geri_E_L_Scott

    Morgan now not expected to make a statement today, @ProducerOllie & @breeallegretti report, but three sources told The Times she held the same view as Sarwar.

    “They’re on the same page when it comes to Keir’s future,” one said.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,394
    @BethRigby

    Interesting: As Sarwar calls to Starmer to go, Lammy, Hermer, Reed, Reeves - and Liz Kendall to me earlier as an exclusive, which I run on
    @skynews
    soon - have all weighed in to support PM
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