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  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,883
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    I don't even understand what people think Starmer did wrong on the Mandelson thing. In their wisdom the people of the United States of America elected a mad pedophile scammer who only gets along with other people who are also mad, pedophiles, scammers or multiple of the above. The UK depends for it's security on the United States, a situation made worse by Brexit which happened through no fault of Starmer's.

    Negotiating this situation required someone who could get along with the Trump people. They couldn't send someone mad because the whole point is to negotiate this very complicated and delicate mad king situation. Labour isn't exactly overflowing with pedophile scammers who are skilled at negotiation. Who was he supposed to send? Jimmy Saville is already dead.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,906

    I don't even understand what people think Starmer did wrong on the Mandelson thing. In their wisdom the people of the United States of America elected a mad pedophile scammer who only gets along with other people who are also mad, pedophiles, scammers or multiple of the above. The UK depends for it's security on the United States, a situation made worse by Brexit which happened through no fault of Starmer's.

    Negotiating this situation required someone who could get along with the Trump people. They couldn't send someone mad because the whole point is to negotiate this very complicated and delicate mad king situation. Labour isn't exactly overflowing with pedophile scammers who are skilled at negotiation. Who was he supposed to send? Jimmy Saville is already dead.

    I don’t know what time of day it is where you are, but it sounds like you need a lie down.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,883

    I don't even understand what people think Starmer did wrong on the Mandelson thing. In their wisdom the people of the United States of America elected a mad pedophile scammer who only gets along with other people who are also mad, pedophiles, scammers or multiple of the above. The UK depends for it's security on the United States, a situation made worse by Brexit which happened through no fault of Starmer's.

    Negotiating this situation required someone who could get along with the Trump people. They couldn't send someone mad because the whole point is to negotiate this very complicated and delicate mad king situation. Labour isn't exactly overflowing with pedophile scammers who are skilled at negotiation. Who was he supposed to send? Jimmy Saville is already dead.

    I don’t know what time of day it is where you are, but it sounds like you need a lie down.
    I'm serious, Jimmy Saville is dead. Check it on wikipedia.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,136

    Kamala Harris is launching something tomorrow...

    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/2019197348178788725

    Is it a meme coin?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,761

    Leon said:

    Whilst I agree Starmer is in trouble, I am not sure the Pincher analogy holds water.

    With Pincher, it wasn't simply a failure of vetting but a situation where Johnson lied about what he knew and had colleagues unwittingly sent onto the media to propogate that lie. This was also the latest in a series of incidents where Johnson had been utterly unreliable.

    That may yet turn out to be the case for Starmer, but I don't think we are there - it was a foolish appointment given Mandelson's track record, but I don't think the anger towards Mandelson for having misled Starmer is synthetic.

    For that reason, whilst there is definitely a competence issue there and it's increasingly hard to see a very long term future for Starmer, I don't really see it playing out as it did in the final days of Johnson.

    I also find the Rayner surge a little odd. She has a lot going for her, but she isn't exactly Ms Clean, the candidate of unimpeachable personal integrity.

    She's the furthest they've got from the old boy's club attitudes that led to where we are.
    I don’t think Angela Rayner is a traitor. I DO believe that about Starmer and those around him - Hermer, Sands, Powell. They loathe Britain and seek to harm Britons

    It’s that basic

    Rayner might well be an economic disaster but fuck it, how does that change anything. I don’t think Rayner will deliberately enact policies that are solely designed to harm the country she governs because she despises it

    It’s a pretty low bar but I reckon she’ll clear it
    Oh God, not this from you again: "she couldn't we worse".

    She absolutely could be fucking worse.

    I'm terrified of Rayner becoming PM.
    The Tories demonstrated well - more than once - that a change of PM absolutely can make things worse.

    There’s no serious question to which Angela Rayner is the answer. She can’t even run her own house without screwing up the finances, let alone the country.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,532
    Some hoo hah about Alton Towers changing the rules for their disability access pass on Facebook. The extensive comments give a clue as to why the country is in the state it's in wrt schools, disability benefits etc imo
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,761
    Pulpstar said:

    Some hoo hah about Alton Towers changing the rules for their disability access pass on Facebook. The extensive comments give a clue as to why the country is in the state it's in wrt schools, disability benefits etc imo

    Not just a UK problem either.

    40% of students at Stanford are now ‘disabled’.

    https://x.com/owengregorian/status/2018665259385442690
    https://x.com/dkthomp/status/1995899910009626790
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,136
    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Some hoo hah about Alton Towers changing the rules for their disability access pass on Facebook. The extensive comments give a clue as to why the country is in the state it's in wrt schools, disability benefits etc imo

    Not just a UK problem either.

    40% of students at Stanford are now ‘disabled’.

    https://x.com/owengregorian/status/2018665259385442690
    https://x.com/dkthomp/status/1995899910009626790
    I think that just means that 40% of American kids -at least- are on ritalin or Adderall.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,883
    Good thread gaming out what happens if Trump tries to use ICE for voter suppression.

    https://bsky.app/profile/bretdevereaux.bsky.social/post/3me3j4vyads2y
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,761
    Royal Society with an academic survey that proves the meme.

    The reason for the political polarisation of the last decade and a half, is that the left have moved a lot further left in their views.

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsos/article/13/2/251428/479919/A-new-measure-of-issue-polarization-using-k-means

    https://x.com/kangminjlee/status/2019202512264606035
    https://x.com/g_s_bhogal/status/2019047132129272274
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,761
    Foxy said:

    One for the lawyers: hallucinated case law is a feature, not a bug.

    https://x.com/profrobanderson/status/2019078989348774129

    Thats a really interesting article.

    We are currently trialling AI summarisation of outpatient consultations in place of medical notes and letters in my Trust. All part of Mr Streetings grand plan, with costs repaid by making our receptionists and secretaries redundent.

    Myself and colleagues have some concerns, not least that we are taking on admin duties formerly done by others at a quarter of our pay, as doing the AI stuff adds 5-10 minutes to consultations. Patients don't seem to object.

    It does hallucinate though, including making false diagnoses and even made up pharmaceuticals, so needs a lot of proof-reading, and annoyingly keeps undeleting them when we delete them.

    I was with a customer last week who asked why, when I research something in front of him, I use a search engine (to look for primary sources) and not a generative AI.

    This is exactly the reason why. The AI will confidently spout bollocks, as you say it makes up drug names and legal cases then asserts them to be true - which means that as the expert you need to carefully proofread and correct before sending to anyone else.
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