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Further evidence of the UK becoming a cashless society – politicalbetting.com

How often do Britons visit a branch of their bank in person?At least once a month: 8%At least once very three months: 12%At least once a year: 20%Less than once a year: 35%Never: 23%yougov.co.uk/topics/econo…

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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,521
    I misread this as classless...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,521
    Not visiting a branch has nothing to do with not using cash. It has to do with there being no branch in south Devon nearer than - I'm told - south Wales.

    We have a banking hub, organised by our (now departed by the voters) Conservative MP. That gets a lot of use. Can take out a sizeable wedge from there as required.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,172
    edited 4:42PM
    "Our verdict on the new In Our Time presenter
    Misha Glenny isn’t perfect but he’s good enough for the show to survive
    Angus Colwell" (£)

    https://spectator.com/article/our-verdict-on-the-new-in-our-time-presenter
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,521
    Small change is useful for removing idiots from the gene pool.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,082
    @pickardje.bsky.social‬

    I'm not prone to exaggeration but this is probably the biggest scoop I've ever been involved in

    Mandelson's partner took £10,000 from Epstein to pay for his osteopath course while Mandelson was de facto UK deputy prime minister, according to new files

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mdnqajjk722b
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 21,713

    I have a lecture where I teach the students about statistical process control. I do an exercise where I get the class flipping coins in order to generate a random number. When I developed this exercise, it worked fine. When I did it this week, I had to take a big handful of coppers in with me because none of the students have coins. Well, a few did, but only the mature students!

    We collect squashed pennies (you know the ones - the machines where you put a penny and a pound in and turn the wheel).

    We had to beg a penny off someone at the weekend as we simply don't have coins (oddly we DID have a pound - parking bag in case the Ap doesn't work).

    Have now resolved to carry a bag of pennies just in case.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,563

    Not visiting a branch has nothing to do with not using cash. It has to do with there being no branch in south Devon nearer than - I'm told - south Wales.

    We have a banking hub, organised by our (now departed by the voters) Conservative MP. That gets a lot of use. Can take out a sizeable wedge from there as required.

    We were discussing this in our small u3a sub-group last week, as we now have to pay membership fees by Bank Transfer. We know there are some members of other groups who are unhappy about this, but for two of us a cheque for u3a membership twelve months ago was the last one we wrote.
    It's either Bank Transfer or cash nowadays, drawn from the ATM or the Post Office.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,365

    Small change is useful for removing idiots from the gene pool.

    Thought the faces of the gene pool idiots were embossed on the small change.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,643
    It also means if someone's begging you can say to them that you don't have any money on you, and you can realistically pretend to be telling the truth.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,974

    I misread this as classless...

    People with cash don't talk about cash.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,365
    Off topic

    DOJ releases final tranche (3 million) of Epstein documents but there seems to be no evidence within ....

    “But I don’t think that the public or you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein files that abuse women, unfortunately.”


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5715028-epstein-documents-publicly-available/
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,563
    CatMan said:

    It also means if someone's begging you can say to them that you don't have any money on you, and you can realistically pretend to be telling the truth.

    I thought beggars had swipe machines these days.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    Erhhh that Sri Lankan kid looks very much like a chucker....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 4:54PM
    What's cash?

    After a 3 weeks in China were there is no cash used in Tier 1 cities anywhere, I had a very awkward situation when when I was in Hong Kong where cash is still widely used and I had absolutely no cash, only Chinese was spoken by the owners, in the end I ended up Ali-paying somebody in Chinese mainland otherwise I think I was going to be taken out back and dealt with.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,643

    CatMan said:

    It also means if someone's begging you can say to them that you don't have any money on you, and you can realistically pretend to be telling the truth.

    I thought beggars had swipe machines these days.
    The one I encountered yesterday didn't!
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,335
    edited 4:58PM
    CatMan said:

    It also means if someone's begging you can say to them that you don't have any money on you, and you can realistically pretend to be telling the truth.

    Back in the rump days of the May government there was once a House of Lords question about the government giving beggars card readers due to the reduction is cash use.

  • PJHPJH Posts: 1,025
    My debut effort for the wooden spoon

    #Competition

    1) Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 24
    2) Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 3
    3) Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 57
    4) Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 42
    5) UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Ref +14
    6) Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 21%
    7) Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 9
    8) The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Keir Starmer
    9) Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No
    10) UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £136bn
    11) UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 1.6%
    12) Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Spain
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,876
    Remarkably even across the age segments.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 5:01PM
    Absolute chuck.....seen baseball pitchers who less of a chucker.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,974
    edited 5:04PM

    Absolute chuck.....seen baseball pitchers who less of a chucker.

    He’d make a decent darts player.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,183
    Neither of my two main banks have physical branches, I have been in recent memory to a branch of a different bank to pay in an HMRC cheque but that would have been the first time in almost a decade.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577

    Remarkably even across the age segments.

    You should get some credit for noticing that.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,876
    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,974

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,709
    I had occasion to go into a branch of Nationwide last week. It was absolutely brilliant. A much more stress free way to bank. And then into Barclays. Far more inconvenient because they've close most branches - and at my first attempt (Manchester Market Street) it turned out they don't have cashiers any more. What goes on there then? It was far from clear. But they directed me round to the branch on Mosley Street which was fine, though a bit of a queue.
    Seriously considering changing most of my banking to Nationwide now based on that experience.
    98% of banking I can do online. But I appreciate having humans there for the other 2%.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,183

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Perhaps she wants to carry her passport everywhere so she doesn't get abducted?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,116
    Scott_xP said:

    @pickardje.bsky.social‬

    I'm not prone to exaggeration but this is probably the biggest scoop I've ever been involved in

    Mandelson's partner took £10,000 from Epstein to pay for his osteopath course while Mandelson was de facto UK deputy prime minister, according to new files

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mdnqajjk722b

    Call me old fashioned but isn’t a scoop usually something that is a surprise and nobody would have any inkling it might be something that has happened?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,116

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    If she’s sensible she has time to walk it back. Unfortunately those first three words are a bit in the air.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,201

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,116

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    What are the odds that the warehouses belong to one ofTrump’s circle and they have been bought at a massively inflated price?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,974

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
    If you think that is comparable to what ICE are planning then you are dumber than a box of rocks.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 5:18PM
    Scott_xP said:

    @pickardje.bsky.social‬

    I'm not prone to exaggeration but this is probably the biggest scoop I've ever been involved in

    Mandelson's partner took £10,000 from Epstein to pay for his osteopath course while Mandelson was de facto UK deputy prime minister, according to new files

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mdnqajjk722b

    Surely Mandy has enough money these days to not be having to begging for freebies for normal living expenses his other half?


    emails show da Silva emailing Epstein...asking for money to fund an osteopathy course and other related expenses. “I will wire your loan amount immediated’y [sic],” Epstein replied. A few days later, da Silva sent Epstein email: “thank you for the money which arrived in my account this morning”.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    Is this for the dead or alive?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,185
    edited 5:18PM
    I haven't been in our bank for over a year but still use cash for incidentals and go to Asda ATM

    I do not see the connection unless ATMs are withdrawn

    You can also get cash from supermarket check outs
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,974

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
    We do and they have been active in East Ham on a number of occasions.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,201
    edited 5:21PM

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
    If you think that is comparable to what ICE are planning then you are dumber than a box of rocks.
    We're further to the right of the Trump administration in terms of having zero tolerance for local government standing in the way of immigration enforcement. There's no place for santuary cities in the UK.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    Epstein says Bill Gates caught STI from ‘Russian girls’

    Bill Gates slept with Russian girls and caught a sexually transmitted infection, Jeffrey Epstein claimed in emails.

    In emails he sent to himself in July 2013, the disgraced financier lashed out at the founder of Microsoft for ending their friendship.

    “TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std,” he said, referring to a sexually transmitted disease, also known as an STI.

    Epstein then claimed that Gates asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda. “Your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.”
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,974

    I haven't been in our bank for over a year but still use cash for incidentals and go to Asda ATM

    I do not see the connection unless ATMs are withdrawn

    You can also get cash from supermarket check outs

    I'm surprised at the consistency across age groups - I'd have assumed older people would still use the bank branch but clearly not.

    Belper is one of those towns which has a banking hub rather than each bank having its own branch and it seems to work well. I have heard the roll out of the hubs isn't progressing as quickly as some hoped and that's something which needs to be accelerated particularly for communities where the main banks are gone and there are no alternatives.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,437
    Cookie said:

    I had occasion to go into a branch of Nationwide last week. It was absolutely brilliant. A much more stress free way to bank. And then into Barclays. Far more inconvenient because they've close most branches - and at my first attempt (Manchester Market Street) it turned out they don't have cashiers any more. What goes on there then? It was far from clear. But they directed me round to the branch on Mosley Street which was fine, though a bit of a queue.
    Seriously considering changing most of my banking to Nationwide now based on that experience.
    98% of banking I can do online. But I appreciate having humans there for the other 2%.

    Presumably down to the relatively unique way the Nationwide is still funded. (How did they escape the march of the carpetbaggers?)

    Taking the demutualisation money and then being surprised at how the new owners would act is very human.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,201

    Epstein says Bill Gates caught STI from ‘Russian girls’

    Bill Gates slept with Russian girls and caught a sexually transmitted infection, Jeffrey Epstein claimed in emails.

    In emails he sent to himself in July 2013, the disgraced financier lashed out at the founder of Microsoft for ending their friendship.

    “TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std,” he said, referring to a sexually transmitted disease, also known as an STI.

    Epstein then claimed that Gates asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda. “Your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.”

    Was Epstein also running an exclusive medical service? Osteopathy for Mandelson's partner, antibiotics for Bill Gates. It's very bizarre.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,709

    Scott_xP said:

    @pickardje.bsky.social‬

    I'm not prone to exaggeration but this is probably the biggest scoop I've ever been involved in

    Mandelson's partner took £10,000 from Epstein to pay for his osteopath course while Mandelson was de facto UK deputy prime minister, according to new files

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mdnqajjk722b

    Surely Mandy has enough money these days to not be having to begging for freebies for normal living expenses his other half?


    emails show da Silva emailing Epstein...asking for money to fund an osteopathy course and other related expenses. “I will wire your loan amount immediated’y [sic],” Epstein replied. A few days later, da Silva sent Epstein email: “thank you for the money which arrived in my account this morning”.
    I don't think Mandy will ever think he has *enough* money.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,957
    edited 5:32PM

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
    If you think that is comparable to what ICE are planning then you are dumber than a box of rocks.
    We're further to the right of the Trump administration in terms of having zero tolerance for local government standing in the way of immigration enforcement. There's no place for santuary cities in the UK.
    On the other hand, we don't have random executions of immigration protestors, or a loony paramiilitary group behind them, that I know of. The U.S. is beginning to look like Brazil in the 1970s.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,116

    Epstein says Bill Gates caught STI from ‘Russian girls’

    Bill Gates slept with Russian girls and caught a sexually transmitted infection, Jeffrey Epstein claimed in emails.

    In emails he sent to himself in July 2013, the disgraced financier lashed out at the founder of Microsoft for ending their friendship.

    “TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std,” he said, referring to a sexually transmitted disease, also known as an STI.

    Epstein then claimed that Gates asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda. “Your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.”

    Was Epstein also running an exclusive medical service? Osteopathy for Mandelson's partner, antibiotics for Bill Gates. It's very bizarre.
    Would have been a better Health Secretary than RFK jr though.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,643

    Epstein says Bill Gates caught STI from ‘Russian girls’

    Bill Gates slept with Russian girls and caught a sexually transmitted infection, Jeffrey Epstein claimed in emails.

    In emails he sent to himself in July 2013, the disgraced financier lashed out at the founder of Microsoft for ending their friendship.

    “TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std,” he said, referring to a sexually transmitted disease, also known as an STI.

    Epstein then claimed that Gates asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda. “Your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.”

    He sent emails to himself?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,298

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history
    We do.

    But they very carefully manage not to interfere* with the big employers, such as Deliveroo. Who have a whole business plan based on not knowing their employees.

    *Yes, every now and again they catch a few of the subcontractors.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,201
    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,835

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    It was a very clear and specific policy from the Conservative Party - UK ICE to remove 700,000 people from the UK - identically matching the Farage proposal.

    There’s a clear strategy the longer Badenoch’s leadership continues, is there not? Abandon the UK’s political centre, match all Farage’s commitments word for word.

    Is Kemi a full u-turn type of person? The only down ramp I see for the Party to junk this policy, is change of leader.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,298
    boulay said:

    Epstein says Bill Gates caught STI from ‘Russian girls’

    Bill Gates slept with Russian girls and caught a sexually transmitted infection, Jeffrey Epstein claimed in emails.

    In emails he sent to himself in July 2013, the disgraced financier lashed out at the founder of Microsoft for ending their friendship.

    “TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std,” he said, referring to a sexually transmitted disease, also known as an STI.

    Epstein then claimed that Gates asked for antibiotics to slip to his then-wife Melinda. “Your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis.”

    Was Epstein also running an exclusive medical service? Osteopathy for Mandelson's partner, antibiotics for Bill Gates. It's very bizarre.
    Would have been a better Health Secretary than RFK jr though.
    RFK believes in antibiotics, but not vaccines. IIRC.

    So who the fuck knows?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,292
    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,298

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    Have we not already got one?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-working-raids-reach-highest-level-in-uk-history

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    Is this for the dead or alive?
    Why not both.

    {Miracle Max has entered the chat}
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,835

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    Wait! But that will only leave us with the Board of Peace!

    Drat, drat and double drat.


  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,957
    edited 5:35PM
    Just to add, Brazil did get rid of its dictatorship.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577
    edited 5:35PM

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    It limps on in a failed state ignored by the big powers and gets replaced by the League of Nations after WW3 ends in 2046.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 435
    edited 5:39PM
    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,957
    Bluesky needs more U.K. and European users, and it may develop nicely.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 435
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    Interesting. Sweden was pretty much cashless I think
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,986
    "Crash and Burnham!"

    How did the regular punster miss that one?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    Wait! But that will only leave us with the Board of Peace!

    Drat, drat and double drat.


    Surely a typo, isnt it for the Bored of Peace?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577

    Bluesky needs more U.K. and European users, and it may develop nicely.

    Bluesky is clearly fake news during the UK winter.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,957
    edited 5:48PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    Good thinking. They probably won't be following the current ridiculous and short-sighted suggestion of turning off the digital terrestrial tv signal here, either, for the same reasons.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,457
    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    • 1) Following the use of Grok to produce realistic child pornography, many sickened X users left. Some of those decamped to Bluesky.
    • 2) The number of X users is now less than the number of Threads users. Much to my surprise.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,876
    Trump has been reposting various kooky claims of foreign election interference in 2020 to help lay the groundwork for the big push in 2026. Late Wednesday night, he reposted a claim that Italian military satellites had been used to hack into U.S. voting machines to flip votes from Trump to Joe Biden.

    Trump is laying the predicate for claiming not just massive domestic fraud but foreign interference in our elections, requiring dramatic intervention by the national security apparatus of the federal government.

    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/defang-ice-save-the-midterms-georgia-senate-spending-gabbard-fbi-justice-trump-2026-2028-minnesota-homan?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,544

    CASH!

  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,577
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    At a minimum we need a non US alternative to VISA and Mastercard if we are going cashless.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,876
    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    Oh well, I guess I am a hardcore wanker weirdo.

  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,365
    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,986
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    We should do the same. Reliance upon electronic systems with no backup is bloody ridiculous.

    As an aside, it is also interesting that the decline in cash and the increasing reliance on electronic money is coinciding with a big increase in barter as a means of trade in the UK.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,380
    TSE - yes it was indeed very poor political judgement from Badenoch to suggest imitating anything that had Trump's name on it. Obviously creating a hostage to fortune.

    I see bondegezou has bemoaned that as many as 24% of Britons have a favourable view of Tommy Robinson. We are limited to what we can say here but might I suggest that if some of the people who loathe Tommy Tommy Tommy had shown rather more concern about the issue upon which he has built his entire reputation he probably wouldn't enjoy the level of support he does.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,709
    Roger said:

    "Crash and Burnham!"

    How did the regular punster miss that one?

    It's a good pun, Roger, but you've gone too early. Or too late. You need a context. If you'd dropped this on Sunday afternoon, we would have applauded. This smacks a little of esprit d'escalier :smile:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'esprit_de_l'escalier

  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,974

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    I still say Kemi Badenoch’a biggest mistake to date is that she wants a UK ICE, those comments are going to haunt her.
    It was a very clear and specific policy from the Conservative Party - UK ICE to remove 700,000 people from the UK - identically matching the Farage proposal.

    There’s a clear strategy the longer Badenoch’s leadership continues, is there not? Abandon the UK’s political centre, match all Farage’s commitments word for word.

    Is Kemi a full u-turn type of person? The only down ramp I see for the Party to junk this policy, is change of leader.
    Nobody seems to know how many illegal or undocumented migrants there are in the UK, let alone who they are and where they are. IF there are 700,000 (and I've seen estimates of up to double that number) , you would need to recruit and train specialist officers and provide a new infrastructure of detention centres - is any UK ICE system going to operate on the principle that unless you can prove you are here illegally, you will be considered to be here illegally and be liable for deportation - that seems to suggest some form of ID to prove your immigration status.

    All this will cost and will require robust legislation to ensure there's no repetition of what happened when the previous Government tried to implement the Rwanda solution.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 435
    Following the retirement of the former MP for Stone in 2024, the House of Commons is now Cashless
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,229
    Cookie said:

    I had occasion to go into a branch of Nationwide last week. It was absolutely brilliant. A much more stress free way to bank. And then into Barclays. Far more inconvenient because they've close most branches - and at my first attempt (Manchester Market Street) it turned out they don't have cashiers any more. What goes on there then? It was far from clear. But they directed me round to the branch on Mosley Street which was fine, though a bit of a queue.
    Seriously considering changing most of my banking to Nationwide now based on that experience.
    98% of banking I can do online. But I appreciate having humans there for the other 2%.

    I'm in Nationwide. They are great.
    And they give me £100 a year as well.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,544

    Erhhh that Sri Lankan kid looks very much like a chucker....

    What's Sri Lanka's favourite biscuit-like sweet things?

    Jaffna Cakes.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,974
    The latest Survation VI numbers:

    RefUK: 31% (+2)
    CON: 20% (+1)
    LAB: 18% (-3)
    LD: 12% (+1)
    Green: 12% (+1)

    Fieldwork 28-29 Jan, changes from 10-14 January.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,986
    Battlebus said:

    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
    Not true. All the major high street banks accept cash deposits as a matter of policy.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,544
    stodge said:

    The latest Survation VI numbers:

    RefUK: 31% (+2)
    CON: 20% (+1)
    LAB: 18% (-3)
    LD: 12% (+1)
    Green: 12% (+1)

    Fieldwork 28-29 Jan, changes from 10-14 January.

    Sleazy, broken Labour on the slide :lol:
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,790
    CatMan said:

    It also means if someone's begging you can say to them that you don't have any money on you, and you can realistically pretend to be telling the truth.

    Evil, I always carry a few pound coins for poor souls begging outside M&S
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,754
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    Interesting, but I can't say I agree with such a broad mandate.

    I might be supportive of a similar requirement from the parts of the high street you could reasonably describe as 'utilities' such a supermarkets. A cardless person should be able to buy groceries.

    But extending that requirement to every business? Strikes me as adding regulatory burden for businesses where in many cases there is no demand for using cash. For example, an upmarket coffee shop in the city of London is going to have practically zero customers who don't have cards or digital payments. Why force them to add risk and cost for the 1 in 100 customers who want to?

    Equally I have no issues with businesses being cash only, even if it means I'm unable to buy from them as I don't even carry a debit card with me to get cash. In practice, that's no longer an issue where I live outside fruit stands at the local market.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,700
    Cookie said:

    I had occasion to go into a branch of Nationwide last week. It was absolutely brilliant. A much more stress free way to bank. And then into Barclays. Far more inconvenient because they've close most branches - and at my first attempt (Manchester Market Street) it turned out they don't have cashiers any more. What goes on there then? It was far from clear. But they directed me round to the branch on Mosley Street which was fine, though a bit of a queue.
    Seriously considering changing most of my banking to Nationwide now based on that experience.
    98% of banking I can do online. But I appreciate having humans there for the other 2%.

    I lost faith with Barclays after an experience with my father.

    I took him to a branch because he couldn't hear people properly on the phone. In the branch he could hear them fine, but they couldn't deal with the problem, so handed him a phone to talk to operations. Operations were in India and he still couldn't hear a thing.

    Nobody could actually do anything, despite him standing there in the branch with ID.

    Eventually I got PoA and sorted it out.


    Nationwide are at least vaguely helpful.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,380
    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    It's not as if there aren't issues with Musk/twitter. However I have a substantial dependency on it which I can't see a current replacement to.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,365

    Battlebus said:

    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
    Not true. All the major high street banks accept cash deposits as a matter of policy.
    Interesting. My HSBC doesn't having taken away the tellers but it seems you can deposit cash in the ATM. Not much help to cash businesses though.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 5:59PM
    viewcode said:

    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    • 1) Following the use of Grok to produce realistic child pornography, many sickened X users left. Some of those decamped to Bluesky.
    • 2) The number of X users is now less than the number of Threads users. Much to my surprise.
    The second stat is a nonsense one. If you have instanta you are basically auto enrolled into threads and you can't close your account as you will loose your instanta account. Its the hotel California of social media platforms.

    BlueSky activity stats have ticked up a little bit recently, but still way down from the peak.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,986
    Is Starmer corrupt or is this a cheap shot by a political opponent?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4NnGWHEhIA
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,185
    Battlebus said:

    Battlebus said:

    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
    Not true. All the major high street banks accept cash deposits as a matter of policy.
    Interesting. My HSBC doesn't having taken away the tellers but it seems you can deposit cash in the ATM. Not much help to cash businesses though.
    My HSBC branch has internal ATM [3] that you can deposit or take out cash
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,201
    DoctorG said:

    Following the retirement of the former MP for Stone in 2024, the House of Commons is now Cashless

    Luckily they no longer have to pay the Bill.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,457

    viewcode said:

    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    • 1) Following the use of Grok to produce realistic child pornography, many sickened X users left. Some of those decamped to Bluesky.
    • 2) The number of X users is now less than the number of Threads users. Much to my surprise.
    The second stat is a nonsense one. If you have instanta you are basically auto enrolled into threads and you can't close your account as you will loose your instanta account. Its the hotel California of social media platforms...
    Explaing *why* a thing is true does not stop it being true.

  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,282
    boulay said:

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

    @reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬

    BIG news from @bloomberg.com, which confirms that ICE has gone ahead and *purchased* multiple commercial warehouses with the aim of converting them into mass detention camps.

    This is likely to be the big detention story of 2026 — literal warehousing of people.
    www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3mdnqx56xck2v

    What are the odds that the warehouses belong to one ofTrump’s circle and they have been bought at a massively inflated price?
    The odds are 1.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 6:03PM
    Roger said:

    Is Starmer corrupt or is this a cheap shot by a political opponent?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4NnGWHEhIA

    Well all his claims are in a book came out months ago and got no traction, so I think that is quite telling.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,986
    Battlebus said:

    Battlebus said:

    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
    Not true. All the major high street banks accept cash deposits as a matter of policy.
    Interesting. My HSBC doesn't having taken away the tellers but it seems you can deposit cash in the ATM. Not much help to cash businesses though.
    I would suggest it is almost certain (since they are generally all built on the same model) that your HSBC, like the one in Newark, has an ATM for taking cash deposits. The move away froim tellers is unrelated to the move away from cash. It is just part as the longterm trend towards more automation, fewer staff and poorer customer service.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,298

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    Wait! But that will only leave us with the Board of Peace!

    Drat, drat and double drat.


    Surely a typo, isnt it for the Bored of Peace?
    That cartoon libels Darth Vader, Mr Burns and The Joker. For a start.

    The Joker, for instance, quite categorically won't work with Fascists.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,298

    Battlebus said:

    DoctorG said:

    I've been into a bank branch maybe twice since covid. Banks just don't want to encourage people or businesses to use them, other than depositing cash, there's little need for them now.

    If you need a loan, branch staff will help you fill in a form or give you the details of how to apply, but won't be able to process it themselves.

    Loss of a bank branch is a big thing in rural areas, particularly for elderly users. I feel sorry for them, its just a society change we need to get used to. Also feel sorry for small business who incur large percentage processing fees for small value transactions. The upside should be to make working with card payments much easier and cheaper than depositing cash in a bank several times a week

    I think cash will still be around for a while yet but cheques will disappear in a few years time, the decline in use is more than 15% year on year

    Banks no longer accept cash. They direct you to the Post Office which still accepts it.
    Not true. All the major high street banks accept cash deposits as a matter of policy.
    Though if you exceed certain numbers, they will refuse it.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,282
    Andy_JS said:

    Norway and Sweden have recently introduced legislation stipulating that businesses must accept cash, because they decided the move towards an almost totally cashless society was a security risk.

    Stupid, illiberal and backwards move.

    It should be up to each business to determine what risks they want to take and if they want to take cash, or electronic payments, or both.

    And taking cash is a huge security risk.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,648
    edited 6:06PM
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Leon said:

    Fpt for @rottenborough

    Literally no one uses Bluesky apart from a tiny tiny hardcore of wanker weirdos, now

    Some lefties recently stormed off X coz of some Grok horror. It was very noticeable how they didn’t say “I’m going to Bluesky” - indeed several explicitly said “I won’t be on Bluesky, either, it’s dead”. Which it is

    • 1) Following the use of Grok to produce realistic child pornography, many sickened X users left. Some of those decamped to Bluesky.
    • 2) The number of X users is now less than the number of Threads users. Much to my surprise.
    The second stat is a nonsense one. If you have instanta you are basically auto enrolled into threads and you can't close your account as you will loose your instanta account. Its the hotel California of social media platforms...
    Explaing *why* a thing is true does not stop it being true.

    Its not really true though. They aren't "users" in any sense of the word. They have an account that basically was auto-opened for them, and they can't close it, and their instanta posts get auto-reposted there.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,388

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    Oh no.

    Anyway…..
  • eekeek Posts: 32,428
    Zohran Mamdani is showing why he ended up as Mayor of New York

    In less than 2 minutes he is showing how the NY budget is created https://bsky.app/profile/mayor.nyc.gov/post/3mdni4jxkqs2v

    Oh and there is a clearly separated budget for long term investment and day to day expenses - that's something we really, really could do with here.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,871
    More Epstein files zzzzzz !

    Am I the only one now utterly in the couldn’t give a fig anymore camp .
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,282

    Will the UN survive?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr579mdv4m7o

    The United Nations is at risk of "imminent financial collapse" due to member states not paying their fees, the body's head has warned.

    António Guterres said the UN faced a financial crisis which was "deepening, threatening programme delivery", and that money could run out by July.

    Wait! But that will only leave us with the Board of Peace!

    Drat, drat and double drat.


    Surely a typo, isnt it for the Bored of Peace?
    That cartoon libels Darth Vader, Mr Burns and The Joker. For a start.

    The Joker, for instance, quite categorically won't work with Fascists.
    Dick Dastardly seems about right for Trump though.
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