Afternoon all and with this talk about Scots in English seats and English in Scots seats, I was recently stunned to realise roughly 1 in 10 English MPs is actually a Scots man or woman i.e. born in Scotland. Lots of Labour MPs you wouldn't immediately think of as being Scottish and a few Tories too.
You claimed people in Scotland vote in an anti Catholic way - you are utterly wrong.
No I didn't, you inferred that in the standard, paranoid way of your sort. My facetious comment may have just as much implied that people voted for someone because they were Catholic.
Wee, blue-nosed mooses, indulging in enraged victimhood since...well, time immemorial really.
"JS's Catholicism might be more of a factor than the dead paedo thing."
Your words divvie - stop trying to run away from them.
The stealthy Russian takeover of Eastern Ukraine is continuing:
AJELive @AJELive 7m Video: Pro-Russia activist claims to have seized Slovyansk airport to prevent Ukrainian airforce planes from landing. http://aje.me/1eErsZi
Nuke Moscow, simples.
You are Kenny Everett and I claim my five out-size comedy hands!
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
Is there a Tory constituency association that would want a leftish-leaning Europhile as its MP?
Rushcliffe or Sheffield Hallam
Broxtowe has had Europhile MPs for the last 40 years regardless of party - not sure we've ever differed on the issue. We also agree on gay marriage (pro), overseas aid (pro) and opposition to overturning the hunting ban, though I'm not sure that quite adds up to leftism (and I'm not sure if Browne is sound on hunting).
Despite those probably false rumours of an imminent LibDem leadership challenge, those nice people at William Hill continue to offer Clegg NOT being the party's leader on 1 January 2016 at odds of 8/11. The words "rope", "money" and "old" spring to mind.
Of course if you take the opposing view even money odds are available.
Mr. Easterross, I wonder if that could become an issue if Yes wins. To be honest, I don't think so. I wonder if there's any recent and comparable precedent. Maybe politicians in the Czech Republic and Slovakia?
Mr. Eagles, I don't buy much music, but £2,600 does seem quite expensive.
Paddy Lowe, sort-of-but-not-quite team principal, will take over his responsibilities. Toto Wolff retains his position with responsibility for commerce, marketing and Arnold Schwarznegger impersonations.
The only one of that lot that looks tempting to me is Steven Webb at 20-1. I have not seen that much of Tim Farron but what I have seen has been deeply unimpressive and well short of leadership level.
Farron's big USP is that his fingerprints aren't on the Coalition. If that is judged to have been an unhappy experience with an unfortunate electoral outcome, then nobody who was involved - Alexander, Cable, Webb, Lamb, Browne etc. - will be able to compete with Farron's not-me-guv stance. It's quite possible that this will be the key factor in the next leadership selection, though it won't hurt with members that he's vaguely left of centre too.
Steven Webb is your and my sort of choice - an impressive geek who is really interested in policy and doing stuff. His nearest counterpart is Oliver Letwin, and sadly they have roughly similar chances of becoming leaders.
Another view of Farron might be that whilst other senior LibDems, including the unlikely figure of Simon Hughes, took to the trenches for the Coalition, Farron was content to snipe from the rear and not get his hands dirty.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
No no no. You are thinking of Vince Cable who is older than Vince Cable but slightly younger than Vince Cable.
The next LibDem leader can only be of the tiny tiny minority that didn't get bitten by the vampire and vote more loyally for Tory bills than Tory MPs did. Any current member of the government is an absolute non-starter, so that does put Farron in the clear lead. Sadly for the LibDems....
Apart from the fact that they are Coalition bills not "Tory bills".
Labour partisans can't seem to reconcile themselves to the fact that if LibDems can't be their willing fools then they must be Conservative willing fools.
Fools they may or may not be but they'll have earned the credit or approbrium for being part of a Coalition government. Further it will LibDem members who'll decide the next leader not "Rochdale Pioneers" and they will see things very differently to you.
The left are furious at the LDs for not refusing to enter a coalition government on left wing principle. Because adhering to what the Labour Party thinks is appropriate principled behaviour should trump being in actual power.
Off-topic, I can't but help see those pictures of Dave & Sam on holiday without feeling a certain fondness for a now departed poster....
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
No no no. You are thinking of Vince Cable who is older than Vince Cable but slightly younger than Vince Cable.
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Ah, but men age more quickly than women [sob], so he's really around 10 years older than HRC. Furthermore, probably on age grounds, she won't be the next POTUS.
David Laws trying to woo back the LD-Labour switchers at the ATL conference. (That horse has bolted I reckon...) Says should avoid continued politicisation of ed policy/need period of stability. Also that teachers should be qualified.
His arm's in a sling - broke his elbow tripping over a kerb out delivering leaflets.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
Indeed, unless it's the tautology of "rush to" and "riposte". Although as a graduate of the sciences, my English is not gud.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
Indeed, unless it's the tautology of "rush to" and "riposte". Although as a graduate of the sciences, my English is not gud.
Ok, it should be?
" even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you riposte"
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
It's a clumsy sentence. The construction is poor and the use of "when" is misplaced. Perhaps the following might been more appropriate :
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
David Laws trying to woo back the LD-Labour switchers at the ATL conference. (That horse has bolted I reckon...) Says should avoid continued politicisation of ed policy/need period of stability. Also that teachers should be qualified.
His arm's in a sling - broke his elbow tripping over a kerb out delivering leaflets.
The LDs must be worried about the teacher vote, the ATL would normally be a haven of LD support, but not these days.
Of course, if you're wee Nicky Clegg, with a constituency full of students, you'd be more worried about the undergraduate vote.
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
No no no. You are thinking of Vince Cable who is older than Vince Cable but slightly younger than Vince Cable.
Another excellent example of tremendous value from the Coalition.
Afternoon all and with this talk about Scots in English seats and English in Scots seats, I was recently stunned to realise roughly 1 in 10 English MPs is actually a Scots man or woman i.e. born in Scotland. Lots of Labour MPs you wouldn't immediately think of as being Scottish and a few Tories too.
It should come as no surprise. It's well-known that the English are the most tolerant and open-minded people in the world.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
It's a clumsy sentence. The construction is poor and the use of "when" is misplaced. Perhaps the following might been more appropriate :
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
It's a clumsy sentence. The construction is poor and the use of "when" is misplaced. Perhaps the following might been more appropriate :
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
Crikey
Amazing the things some people like to get smart arsey about on here!
Vince could be caretaker. He has been before after all. That would save the lib dems from the agony of choice and some of those leadership challengers who fear the Clegg toxicity is contagious might just want to wait and see if Vince rapidly becomes a toxic coalition sh*t magnet like Clegg now is.
A great many lib dem MPs do actually know how bad things are. Clegg's ostruch faction only ever succeed in deluding themselves. The reason so many lib dem MPs seem fine with things is the same reason so many tory MPs have been so unhappy. To keep the lib dem MPs onside they were give a great many of the available slots for jobs at a junior ministerial level and other 'perks' of that kind. They were in effect bought off and it has worked.
That also meant there was far less of that to go around for the tory MPs which partly explains why so many of them seem less than pleased with the chumocracy and the Cameroons.
Sooner or later those jobs end but for right now it's a far happier place to be to keep imagining things will all turn round for Clegg than to contemplate leaving those comfortable postings and possibly even stop being an MP altogether.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
You're missing nothing - Southam can't bear to have any of his lefty friends criticised - it might be cute if it wasn't so sad.
Miss Carola, a friend of mine at school had a sprained wrist once. He got quite a lot of mockery for that.
Yep, lads get a lot of that with wrist injuries
I've got a load of metal in my shoulder at the moment after a spectacular stairwell fall at the start of last summer (hopefully coming out at some point). I had months of: 'Were you pissed?' (no), and 'Better watch out for the security gate at the airport, hahahaha!' (wan smile)
Is there a Tory constituency association that would want a leftish-leaning Europhile as its MP?
Rushcliffe or Sheffield Hallam
Broxtowe has had Europhile MPs for the last 40 years regardless of party - not sure we've ever differed on the issue. We also agree on gay marriage (pro), overseas aid (pro) and opposition to overturning the hunting ban, though I'm not sure that quite adds up to leftism (and I'm not sure if Browne is sound on hunting).
Is there a Tory constituency association that would want a leftish-leaning Europhile as its MP?
Rushcliffe or Sheffield Hallam
Broxtowe has had Europhile MPs for the last 40 years regardless of party - not sure we've ever differed on the issue. We also agree on gay marriage (pro), overseas aid (pro) and opposition to overturning the hunting ban, though I'm not sure that quite adds up to leftism (and I'm not sure if Browne is sound on hunting).
The only one of that lot that looks tempting to me is Steven Webb at 20-1. I have not seen that much of Tim Farron but what I have seen has been deeply unimpressive and well short of leadership level.
Farron's big USP is that his fingerprints aren't on the Coalition. If that is judged to have been an unhappy experience with an unfortunate electoral outcome, then nobody who was involved - Alexander, Cable, Webb, Lamb, Browne etc. - will be able to compete with Farron's not-me-guv stance. It's quite possible that this will be the key factor in the next leadership selection, though it won't hurt with members that he's vaguely left of centre too.
Steven Webb is your and my sort of choice - an impressive geek who is really interested in policy and doing stuff. His nearest counterpart is Oliver Letwin, and sadly they have roughly similar chances of becoming leaders.
Yep, that sounds about right for both of us!
I don't know if you saw my posts but I had great fun canvassing in Bridge of Don. By the afternoon I had been "promoted" and was responsible for running a team and collating the results which was rather less exciting.
During the morning I only got attacked by 1 dog (and it was quite small) and met a charming lady in her PJs who funnily enough did not seem totally engaged with my questions and seemed to want to be elsewhere. No real abuse from anyone. I may be hooked.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
Sam
That is its primary meaning today, both as a verb and noun, but its origin is as a fencing term, meaning a fast attack after a parry, similar to a counter-punch in boxing.
Is this another "confessions of a canvasser" story? I seem to recall both Sean Fear and Nick Palmer both encountering attractive women in their nightwear on their ventures with Jane Public
Is this another "confessions of a canvasser" story? I seem to recall both Sean Fear and Nick Palmer both encountering attractive women in their nightwear on their ventures with Jane Public
I had the distinct impression I had interrupted something and in true tabloid style made my excuses and left.
Miss Carola, I hope it's not too painful, and can be removed fairly soon.
Thanks - hope so... the metal's causing quite a lot of discomfort and I've not had a proper night's sleep with it for the best part of a year. Think I was stupid, with hindsight, to go straight back to work in the September. I had a number of injuries - A&E thought I'd been in a side impact car accident - but it could have been worse. Found out fairly recently that someone with a similar but less complex fracture was off for five months!
Look who is right behind Gove. St. George concluding his speech to the 'American Enterprise Institute' at the IMF Annual Conference:
But there is one area of reform that I believe is more important for our long term prosperity than all the rest – that can deliver growth rather than stagnation and simultaneously ensure that the gains from growth are shared.
And that is education.
The education policies we’ve been implementing, led by our Education Secretary Michael Gove, have been influenced by, and reflect, the work of education reformers in the US and elsewhere around the world.
The pioneering work of Mike Bloomberg and Joel Klein in New York, Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, Bill Haslam in Tennessee, Mitch Daniels in Indiana and Jeb Bush in Florida has inspired our approach.
You have – quite rightly – identified schools reform as the civil rights issue of our time.
The emphasis the AEI has placed on policies to advance greater social justice is nowhere clearer than in your work on education.
In both our countries poor children are disproportionately likely to go to poor schools.
In both our countries inequality is perpetuated by a lack of educational opportunity for disadvantaged children.
And in the United Kingdom we are creating the British equivalent of charters – academies and free schools – to provide disadvantaged children with greater opportunities than ever before.
A majority of our secondary schools – broadly equivalent to US high schools – are now academies.
And even though our nation is a sixth the size of the US, we have more students in total in academies and free schools in the UK than there are children in charters in the US.
This is a revolutionary breakthrough in extending school autonomy – and parental choice.
We are also following in the footsteps of the great work being done in the US – from Tennessee to D.C – to ensure that teachers are properly evaluated on the impact they make in the classroom and rewarded for good performance.
If Jeremy Browne is indeed considering mounting a leadership challenge (rather than simply defecting to the Tories), then surely he is doing so as a stalking horse. If that is the case, who is the real candidate? Answer that and it might be possible to make a few bob.
Is this another "confessions of a canvasser" story? I seem to recall both Sean Fear and Nick Palmer both encountering attractive women in their nightwear on their ventures with Jane Public
I had the distinct impression I had interrupted something and in true tabloid style made my excuses and left.
True tabloid style would have involved you offering a couple of grand, calling up a photographer and getting the neighbours involved.
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
Sam
That is its primary meaning today, both as a verb and noun, but its origin is as a fencing term, meaning a fast attack after a parry, similar to a counter-punch in boxing.
Afternoon all and with this talk about Scots in English seats and English in Scots seats, I was recently stunned to realise roughly 1 in 10 English MPs is actually a Scots man or woman i.e. born in Scotland. Lots of Labour MPs you wouldn't immediately think of as being Scottish and a few Tories too.
It should come as no surprise. It's well-known that the English are the most tolerant and open-minded people in the world.
Don't know what that makes the Scots - this analysis suggests that the comparable figure for Scotland is 23% ... to be honest, I think some of that may be 'no data', Unfortunately I can't get the charts to view on my PC, just the map.
Edit] Rather more relevantly to the original question, it may have the data in the charts (or may not).
If Jeremy Browne is indeed considering mounting a leadership challenge (rather than simply defecting to the Tories), then surely he is doing so as a stalking horse. If that is the case, who is the real candidate? Answer that and it might be possible to make a few bob.
I think he's running for himself tbh. Trying to take advantage of being outside the government and the freedom that brings.
He may end up being the stalking horse, but I think his intention is to take a longshot at being either the leader or at least enough of a contender (trying to take the Anyone but Farron support at least).
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Ah, but men age more quickly than women [sob], so he's really around 10 years older than HRC. Furthermore, probably on age grounds, she won't be the next POTUS.
Have heard a well sourced rumour about a currently undeclared candidate for the Democratic nomination. Who's best to bet with for something like that?
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
It's a clumsy sentence. The construction is poor and the use of "when" is misplaced. Perhaps the following might been more appropriate :
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
I'm not sure that "riposte" could/should be used as a verb. It's the same as repartee - a noun describing an action from an epee duel
Who has rubbished Populus. I have just given the last six poll. One polling company has two polls that give a significantly lower Labour lead than the three companies that have done four polls giving exactly the same results.
People can make their own mind up where the real situation lies.
Lol - even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte:)
If you are going to make clever comments about grammar, best to make sure you have riposted (!!!) accurately. You do know what riposte means, don't you?
Roflwmtita - as Corporal Jones put it - " they don't like it up em"
So you don't know what riposte means. Hint: you are probably best off not commenting on people's grammar on an internet message board.
Clearly it's all a bit subtle for you:)
Perhaps. All I know is that you don't understand what the word riposte means, so you made yourself look a bit silly using it when commenting on another poster's poor grammar. But it's a minor point.
What am I missing here? Doesn't "riposte" mean "respond with a clever remark"?
No. In the poshest parts of Surrey "riposte" means to repost and the former is pronounced with the final "e" being silent.
I am lost! I blame comprehensive education!
Agreed on both counts.
Can you help me out?
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
It's a clumsy sentence. The construction is poor and the use of "when" is misplaced. Perhaps the following might been more appropriate :
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
I'm not sure that "riposte" could/should be used as a verb. It's the same as repartee - a noun describing an action from an epee duel
Riposte can be either noun or verb I believe, similar to parry.
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Ah, but men age more quickly than women [sob], so he's really around 10 years older than HRC. Furthermore, probably on age grounds, she won't be the next POTUS.
Have heard a well sourced rumour about a currently undeclared candidate for the Democratic nomination. Who's best to bet with for something like that?
Simply check out the best prices on Oddschecker (preferably passing on the candidate's name to me beforehand). If he/she doesn't yet appear in the betting, either write off the "tip" as nonsense or ask that nice Mr. Shadsy to offer you some nice long odds.
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Ah, but men age more quickly than women [sob], so he's really around 10 years older than HRC. Furthermore, probably on age grounds, she won't be the next POTUS.
Have heard a well sourced rumour about a currently undeclared candidate for the Democratic nomination. Who's best to bet with for something like that?
If Jeremy Browne is indeed considering mounting a leadership challenge (rather than simply defecting to the Tories), then surely he is doing so as a stalking horse. If that is the case, who is the real candidate? Answer that and it might be possible to make a few bob.
Put up job?
Everyone's talking about him now. No proper speculation about any of the real candidates. They'll all be Jonnie-come-latelies if they do start
Is there a Tory constituency association that would want a leftish-leaning Europhile as its MP?
Rushcliffe or Sheffield Hallam
Broxtowe has had Europhile MPs for the last 40 years regardless of party - not sure we've ever differed on the issue. We also agree on gay marriage (pro), overseas aid (pro) and opposition to overturning the hunting ban, though I'm not sure that quite adds up to leftism (and I'm not sure if Browne is sound on hunting).
Nick — what share of the vote do you predict UKIP will poll in Broxtowe in the Euros?
TSE - your betting on the next LibDem leader shows certain St.johnian tendencies, aka covering the field. If I sold you a pup by suggesting Danny Alexander, I could certainly have saved you a few bob by dissuading you from investing in Vince Cable. Read my lips ..... FAR TOO OLD.
It was no pup.He was 25/1, he's now as low as 10/1.
Cable's age is no barrier, he's only four years older than Vince Cable.
So Vince has an older doppelganger .... damn cunning these yellow peril folk ....
Oops, I meant, Vince Cable is only four years older than the next President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton.
Ah, but men age more quickly than women [sob], so he's really around 10 years older than HRC. Furthermore, probably on age grounds, she won't be the next POTUS.
Have heard a well sourced rumour about a currently undeclared candidate for the Democratic nomination. Who's best to bet with for something like that?
Simply check out the best prices on Oddschecker (preferably passing on the candidate's name to me beforehand). If he/she doesn't yet appear in the betting, either write off the "tip" as nonsense or ask that nice Mr. Shadsy to offer you some nice long odds.
It's nonsense from someone who has just joined a presidential committee...
And even though our nation is a sixth the size of the US, we have more students in total in academies and free schools in the UK than there are children in charters in the US.
[My bolding]
You could argue that that actually makes things easier for Gove not harder. Academies are directly under his funding control and hence he can change priorities without middle tiers (local authorities) interfering...
Support for Tories falls as post-budget boost is deflated after Maria Miller row Guardian/ICM polls finds Conservatives down three points at 32%, with Labour on 37%, Lib Dems on 12% and UKip on 11%
According to news reports no. 20 Grosvenor Square has partially collapsed.
Former European HQ of US Naval Department, sold in 2009 for £250 million and currently being redeveloped. Also Eisenhower's HQ during WWII.
Suspect a construction error rather than collapse through natural deterioration.
Big lawsuits to follow!
From a quick search
This also marks the expansion of Finchatton’s luxury portfolio, having previously focused on small to medium developments and private commissions, 20 Grosvenor Square will be a great step for them. Also with values expected to achieve around £6,000 per sq ft 20 Grosvenor Square could prove to be a highly lucrative development for Finchatton.
If Jeremy Browne is indeed considering mounting a leadership challenge (rather than simply defecting to the Tories), then surely he is doing so as a stalking horse. If that is the case, who is the real candidate? Answer that and it might be possible to make a few bob.
...... I think his intention is to take a longshot at being either the leader or at least enough of a contender (trying to take the Anyone but Farron support at least).
Well yes, I can certainly see the merit in that - Farron certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Is this another "confessions of a canvasser" story? I seem to recall both Sean Fear and Nick Palmer both encountering attractive women in their nightwear on their ventures with Jane Public
I had the distinct impression I had interrupted something and in true tabloid style made my excuses and left.
True tabloid style would have involved you offering a couple of grand, calling up a photographer and getting the neighbours involved.
Support for Tories falls as post-budget boost is deflated after Maria Miller row Guardian/ICM polls finds Conservatives down three points at 32%, with Labour on 37%, Lib Dems on 12% and UKip on 11%
Support for Tories falls as post-budget boost is deflated after Maria Miller row Guardian/ICM polls finds Conservatives down three points at 32%, with Labour on 37%, Lib Dems on 12% and UKip on 11%
ICM Euros poll - UKIP figure looks quite a way out of line.
I've posted this before but I think a key issue in Euros polling is how the question is asked - in particular if people asked GE voting intention first and then Euros afterwards it is a subconscious prompt to give a different answer.
So is ICM asking the Euros question in a different way to other pollsters?
The "correct" way to poll the Euros is one question - ie how will you vote in the Euros - with no mention at all of GE.
According to this poll support for Labour is going to rise from 15.7% to 36%. That's a pretty big increase in the space of one election.
Fine print says that it's without the usual ICM modifications that assume doubters return to their parties and Labour would otherwise be marginally higher:
The poll's headline findings may appear to suggest that Labour supporters for Westminster are more inclined to stay loyal to their party than for the European vote, but this seeming difference is produced by ICM's adjustments to the Westminster figures, which assume that many voters who refuse to say how they will vote next time but do report what they did last time, will revert to type. History suggests that this adjustment works well for Westminster, but the approach does not transfer so well to other elections. Without the adjustment, very similar proportions of Labour (87%) and Conservatives (84%) indicate they will stick with their party in the European ballots.
The spread of numbers from the different pollsters for the Euros is bizarrely disparate
EDIT: You could say the same for the GE VI numbers as well really
I'm sort of guest editing the site over the next couple of days, I'm hoping to do a piece trying to explain why there are such differences between the pollsters.
The other thing to remember about this leadership 'speculation' is that calamity Clegg and his media idiots/spinners are exceedingly stupid.
They've 'floated' leadership names before to the press to try to nullify them as a threat and paint them as untrustworthy and disloyal. Farron has seen plenty of this as has Vince. Now it would seem that anyone who could be a possible threat on the right is getting 'the treatment' as a desperate Clegg tries to gloss over his own extraordinary failure over Farage and keep himself safe.
Problem is if you cry wolf long enough then sooner or later what becomes the story isn't WHO wants to replace Clegg but WHY he hasn't he been replaced already? The more leadership speculation there is then the less people will care about 'loyalty' or shifting the blame away from a self-evidently toxic Clegg.
You know who didn't make a calamitous fool of themselves with a Farage 'master strategy'? Every single one of those leadership replacement names including Browne and Ed Davey.
(though to be fair since wee Danny is in the quad and so close to Clegg it's inconceivable he didn't give it the green light and think it was a great idea, as usual)
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Your words divvie - stop trying to run away from them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsokGIeQFFI
Maths teacher's £2,600 phone bill for downloading Neil Diamond album
Katie Bryan downloaded the £8.99 album from iTunes whilst on holiday in South Africa, but roaming charges cost her far more
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/10764210/Maths-teachers-2600-phone-bill-for-downloading-Neil-Diamond-CD.html
Anna Soubry is to the left of you.
The words "rope", "money" and "old" spring to mind.
Of course if you take the opposing view even money odds are available.
Mr. Easterross, I wonder if that could become an issue if Yes wins. To be honest, I don't think so. I wonder if there's any recent and comparable precedent. Maybe politicians in the Czech Republic and Slovakia?
Mr. Eagles, I don't buy much music, but £2,600 does seem quite expensive.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27026775
Paddy Lowe, sort-of-but-not-quite team principal, will take over his responsibilities. Toto Wolff retains his position with responsibility for commerce, marketing and Arnold Schwarznegger impersonations.
What is wrong with this sentence?
"... even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you rush to riposte"
I cannae see it
Off-topic, I can't but help see those pictures of Dave & Sam on holiday without feeling a certain fondness for a now departed poster....
' I have not seen that much of Tim Farron but what I have seen has been deeply unimpressive and well short of leadership level.'
The fact that Farron is one of the few Lib Dem MP's not to have had any position in the coalition speaks volumes. .
His arm's in a sling - broke his elbow tripping over a kerb out delivering leaflets.
That's his story and he's sticking to it!
" even funnier seeing the grammatical errors when you riposte"
Blimey, does anyone fancy a pint?
"Your riposte was even funnier given the grammatical errors."
But each to their own. We all have our own style on forums of this type.
Of course, if you're wee Nicky Clegg, with a constituency full of students, you'd be more worried about the undergraduate vote.
"Buy One Get Two Free"
Second declension neuter accusative plural, old bean.
[Actually, I forget (from very limited knowledge to start with) whether on forums would be accusative or dative].
Amazing the things some people like to get smart arsey about on here!
It wasn't my sentence by the way
Vince could be caretaker. He has been before after all. That would save the lib dems from the agony of choice and some of those leadership challengers who fear the Clegg toxicity is contagious might just want to wait and see if Vince rapidly becomes a toxic coalition sh*t magnet like Clegg now is.
A great many lib dem MPs do actually know how bad things are. Clegg's ostruch faction only ever succeed in deluding themselves. The reason so many lib dem MPs seem fine with things is the same reason so many tory MPs have been so unhappy. To keep the lib dem MPs onside they were give a great many of the available slots for jobs at a junior ministerial level and other 'perks' of that kind. They were in effect bought off and it has worked.
That also meant there was far less of that to go around for the tory MPs which partly explains why so many of them seem less than pleased with the chumocracy and the Cameroons.
Sooner or later those jobs end but for right now it's a far happier place to be to keep imagining things will all turn round for Clegg than to contemplate leaving those comfortable postings and possibly even stop being an MP altogether.
http://news.tes.co.uk/b/news/2014/04/14/bring-an-end-to-quot-permanent-revolution-quot-in-schools-says-laws.aspx
Oh bugger - Three wise monkeys !!
It's Vince Cable - slightly to the right of Anna Soubry but to the left of Dr Nick Palmer and Vince Cable.
I've got a load of metal in my shoulder at the moment after a spectacular stairwell fall at the start of last summer (hopefully coming out at some point). I had months of: 'Were you pissed?' (no), and 'Better watch out for the security gate at the airport, hahahaha!' (wan smile)
Less dangerous than her being behind you.
As Nigel Farage can attest.
As Nigel Farage can attest.
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You put your finger on the problem there.
I don't know if you saw my posts but I had great fun canvassing in Bridge of Don. By the afternoon I had been "promoted" and was responsible for running a team and collating the results which was rather less exciting.
During the morning I only got attacked by 1 dog (and it was quite small) and met a charming lady in her PJs who funnily enough did not seem totally engaged with my questions and seemed to want to be elsewhere. No real abuse from anyone. I may be hooked.
That is its primary meaning today, both as a verb and noun, but its origin is as a fencing term, meaning a fast attack after a parry, similar to a counter-punch in boxing.
Here is how to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98ukMekKdA
If fencing with SO, may I suggest you remove the blunt tip from the foil first.
Is this another "confessions of a canvasser" story? I seem to recall both Sean Fear and Nick Palmer both encountering attractive women in their nightwear on their ventures with Jane Public
LOL. Excellent.
Look who is right behind Gove. St. George concluding his speech to the 'American Enterprise Institute' at the IMF Annual Conference:
But there is one area of reform that I believe is more important for our long term prosperity than all the rest – that can deliver growth rather than stagnation and simultaneously ensure that the gains from growth are shared.
And that is education.
The education policies we’ve been implementing, led by our Education Secretary Michael Gove, have been influenced by, and reflect, the work of education reformers in the US and elsewhere around the world.
The pioneering work of Mike Bloomberg and Joel Klein in New York, Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, Bill Haslam in Tennessee, Mitch Daniels in Indiana and Jeb Bush in Florida has inspired our approach.
You have – quite rightly – identified schools reform as the civil rights issue of our time.
The emphasis the AEI has placed on policies to advance greater social justice is nowhere clearer than in your work on education.
In both our countries poor children are disproportionately likely to go to poor schools.
In both our countries inequality is perpetuated by a lack of educational opportunity for disadvantaged children.
And in the United Kingdom we are creating the British equivalent of charters – academies and free schools – to provide disadvantaged children with greater opportunities than ever before.
A majority of our secondary schools – broadly equivalent to US high schools – are now academies.
And even though our nation is a sixth the size of the US, we have more students in total in academies and free schools in the UK than there are children in charters in the US.
This is a revolutionary breakthrough in extending school autonomy – and parental choice.
We are also following in the footsteps of the great work being done in the US – from Tennessee to D.C – to ensure that teachers are properly evaluated on the impact they make in the classroom and rewarded for good performance.
[My bolding]
If Jeremy Browne is indeed considering mounting a leadership challenge (rather than simply defecting to the Tories), then surely he is doing so as a stalking horse.
If that is the case, who is the real candidate? Answer that and it might be possible to make a few bob.
She was a Yes, Yes, Yes voter?
Edit] Rather more relevantly to the original question, it may have the data in the charts (or may not).
http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/53041/1/Richard Berry-democraticaudit.com-MPs_are_much_less_local.pdf
He may end up being the stalking horse, but I think his intention is to take a longshot at being either the leader or at least enough of a contender (trying to take the Anyone but Farron support at least).
I've never been properly wounded, thankfully, but I recall especially bad sleep really having a bad effect on my waking hours.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/democrat-candidate
Everyone's talking about him now. No proper speculation about any of the real candidates. They'll all be Jonnie-come-latelies if they do start
Nick — what share of the vote do you predict UKIP will poll in Broxtowe in the Euros?
Suspect a construction error rather than collapse through natural deterioration.
Big lawsuits to follow!
Guardian/ICM polls finds Conservatives down three points at 32%, with Labour on 37%, Lib Dems on 12% and UKip on 11%
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/14/support-tories-falls-budget-boost-deflated-maria-miller-row?CMP=twt_fd
This also marks the expansion of Finchatton’s luxury portfolio, having previously focused on small to medium developments and private commissions, 20 Grosvenor Square will be a great step for them. Also with values expected to achieve around £6,000 per sq ft 20 Grosvenor Square could prove to be a highly lucrative development for Finchatton.
Lab 37 (-1)
Con 32 (-3)
LD 12 (nc)
UKIP 11 (+2)
Lab 36 (+1)
Con 25 (nc)
UKIP 20 (nc)
LD 6 (-3)
Green 6 (-1)
Others 7 (+3)
LOL
EDIT: You could say the same for the GE VI numbers as well really
The Wiki polling graph was updated yesterday and the Lab line is now showing a pretty solid, consistent downtrend.
The latest Con move is also down but only very marginally - Con is essentially flat over the last 6 months.
But that Lab line gives quite a bit of encouragement for Con.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
I've posted this before but I think a key issue in Euros polling is how the question is asked - in particular if people asked GE voting intention first and then Euros afterwards it is a subconscious prompt to give a different answer.
So is ICM asking the Euros question in a different way to other pollsters?
The "correct" way to poll the Euros is one question - ie how will you vote in the Euros - with no mention at all of GE.
The poll's headline findings may appear to suggest that Labour supporters for Westminster are more inclined to stay loyal to their party than for the European vote, but this seeming difference is produced by ICM's adjustments to the Westminster figures, which assume that many voters who refuse to say how they will vote next time but do report what they did last time, will revert to type. History suggests that this adjustment works well for Westminster, but the approach does not transfer so well to other elections. Without the adjustment, very similar proportions of Labour (87%) and Conservatives (84%) indicate they will stick with their party in the European ballots.
The general shifts are in line with the other polls - UKIP up a bit in Westminster at Tory expense, Labour largely unchanged.
They've 'floated' leadership names before to the press to try to nullify them as a threat and paint them as untrustworthy and disloyal. Farron has seen plenty of this as has Vince. Now it would seem that anyone who could be a possible threat on the right is getting 'the treatment' as a desperate Clegg tries to gloss over his own extraordinary failure over Farage and keep himself safe.
Problem is if you cry wolf long enough then sooner or later what becomes the story isn't WHO wants to replace Clegg but WHY he hasn't he been replaced already?
The more leadership speculation there is then the less people will care about 'loyalty' or shifting the blame away from a self-evidently toxic Clegg.
You know who didn't make a calamitous fool of themselves with a Farage 'master strategy'? Every single one of those leadership replacement names including Browne and Ed Davey.
(though to be fair since wee Danny is in the quad and so close to Clegg it's inconceivable he didn't give it the green light and think it was a great idea, as usual)