The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
Fuck all to do with the environment. Typical of today's Green Party.
The carbon footprint of the cannabis industry must be quite large.
We’d be all too stoned to care about the carbon footprint !
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
If they do solve longevity and reverse aging in that timescale then none of us on this forum will be able to afford it. Even the lawyers
The last generation to live. Or the last generation to die. The 2030s are going to be quite the emotional rollercoaster.
I am reading THE SIMULATION HYPOTHESIS by Zirk
With every day that passes, this hypothesis - insane as it seems - makes more sense
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
Xi and Putin’s recent hot mic on this theme was disturbing. As Musk has often mused on age extension tech, “just how long would you like Stalin to have lived”.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
Fuck all to do with the environment. Typical of today's Green Party.
The carbon footprint of the cannabis industry must be quite large.
Cannabis will grow on a bathroom windowsill where it will be pretty much carbon neutral.
Friday night question: Does anyone on PB fly a flag from their property, meaning house or business? Which one?
I'm in the fortunate position of not having any in my lane, and if anyone put up one on "my" telegraph pole ie the one outside my house, at present it would be coming down pronto.
The rules are massively broad, so if I put one up, which can't be a St George at present as I won't be identified with the knuckle dragging crowd, it would perhaps be one with a Compass Rose.
That could be a NATO flag (which is clearly OK as an "international organisation where the UK is a member"), or the Anglican Communion one - which is a touch marginal, but appropriate in a period when we have a new Archbishop of Canterbury, and *does* include a shield of St George:
(SNIP) The motto has 2 or 3 possible meanings for 2025 in England: "The truth shall set you free", written in Greek.
(Just realised that I think that is 2 piccies today. Sorry. And I'm timed out: )
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
Who wants to live forever?
In the exceptionally unlikely event this happens, I wonder what it would do to accident rates.
Would everyone be much more careful knowing that the loss was greater, or would they take the same risks as now?
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
There is too much of an attitude that the country has been on a constant downward trajectory. Maybe from a global military power perspective, but certainly there have been good times too.
I would accept that from around 2014-15 onwards we have had a lost decade, and it is hard to argue that we are not in decline right now, but these things are cyclical. Britain can come back. But it requires some more medicine. It remains to be seen whether the public wake up to the need to take it; or whether it is forced on them
When it was said “They’ve never had it so good”, this wasn’t jeered at. It was literally true on a staggering scale.
We talk of boomers and greed. My uncle and aunt reacted to the phenomenon of working class becoming middle class by saving.
They bought their house and paid it off. The rapid increases in wages meant they kept to *saving 30% of income*.
We were doing well until the idiot Cameron gave the other idiot Osborne the key to the petty cash box. We have been reaping his austerity whirlwind ever since.
We were doing well until the idiot Blair gave the other idiot Brown the key to the petty cash box. We have been reaping his overspending whirlwind ever since.
Not true. It might have been true in some alternative universe without the global financial crisis but in this one, Brown did not blow up the economy.
Brown began the overspending before the financial crisis hit. We went from surplus to deficit in 2002, five year before the financial crisis.
Had the idiot not done that, we'd have quickly overcome the crisis. Crises happen, you should be prepared for them and we were until Brown maxed the credit card pre-crisis.
Not true at all. Financial crises are generally very difficult to recover from, especially if you have a large financial sector. Ireland was running a surplus in 2007 and got hit very hard by the crisis.
And clearly the credit card wasn't "maxed" because we went out and more than doubled debt as a % of GDP in the 10 years.
In fact the biggest mistake we made from that period (and sadly I must admit labour would have made the same mistake) is that we cut govt investment and capital spending enormously, at a time when borrowing was essentially free, which doomed our eocnomy to a a decade and a half of stagnation...
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
I suspect that scientists solving mortality would be much like saying "hey Midas, what do you really want?"
My hunch is that some of our current social problems come from a generation who don't want to leave the stage blocking the pipeline further back. Immortality would make that much worse.
Al-Shamie was also struggling with debt after splitting up with his wife and young son at the time at the time of his rampage, the Daily Mail can reveal. Al-Shamie, 35, had been living with his mother and one of his two brothers at his old family home in a council house in the quiet Langley Crescent, Prestwich, Greater Manchester.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
That’s going to end up being fairly Darwinian.
He could partially defend it on the basis of the UK policy ("the British system") on drugs up until the 1960s. In 2025 with ultra-addictive drugs and organised crime run supply lines, I'm not sure that it is practical politically or medically.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
He's obviously irritated by somebody posting about how great their life is. Considers it a violation of patent.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
We've ended up in a perverse scenario where postponing Gaza protests this weekend will be to admit that their purpose is to intimidate the Jewish population in the UK.
I don't think it was Starmer's intention but he's made it more important than ever to assert that opposing Netanyahu's actions does not equate to anti-Semitism.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
That’s going to end up being fairly Darwinian.
Not necessarily. In Portugal possession of all drugs is decriminalised (not legalised, an important distinction) and a public health approach taken, and generally seems to have been better than the ineffective War on Drugs.
I am strongly anti-drugs having seen the damage which cannabis and other drugs cause, and want to see a reduction but it should be an evidence based approach.
A 24 year old had his bladder removed in my hospital recently, and was very pleased to have a permenant urostomy bag. He had Ketamine bladder.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
Who wants to live forever?
In the exceptionally unlikely event this happens, I wonder what it would do to accident rates.
Would everyone be much more careful knowing that the loss was greater, or would they take the same risks as now?
Surely boredom would set in after a while.
Asimov explored this quite a bit in the Caves of Steel novels. Especially the effects on scientific progress if people think they will live for hundreds of years so can just keep working on a problem in isolation rather than sharing and collaborating.
I've always wondered why those books have never made it onto film or TV. Seem like the perfect mix of police procedural and sci-fi. A lot of closed sets too. Though given the utter mess Apple TV made of Foundation it's maybe for the best. There was a pretty decent R4 dramatisation starring Ed Bishop mind you :
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
That’s going to end up being fairly Darwinian.
He could partially defend it on the basis of the UK policy ("the British system") on drugs up until the 1960s. In 2025 with ultra-addictive drugs and organised crime run supply lines, I'm not sure that it is practical politically or medically.
He's been in the job five minutes and managed to drag back up the whole legalise drugs issue which has plagued the greens on and off for decades.
Herefordshire North looking increasingly like a lost seat in 2029.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
Kitty Donaldson @kitty_donaldson · 2h NEW: Allies of Robert Jenrick are collecting no confidence letters from Conservative MPs calling for party leader Kemi Badenoch to quit, The i Paper has been told.
Genuinely why? The Tories will be destroyed next may, why would he want to be in charge when that happens? Why not ride to the rescue after?
Still a long time until the GE. My guess, he's presuming Reform will stumble at some point and Starmer will continue to be dependably shite so there's an opening for the Tories with a leader who looks and sounds as if they have some actual answers - and recent history suggests that leader isn't Kemi Badenoch.
Too long. Four years. Remarkably, only one Conservative leader has lasted that long this century, and that was David Cameron.
IDS 2 years Michael Howard 2 years Call Me Dave 11 years Theresa May 3 years Boris 3 years Liz Truss 7 weeks Rishi Sunak 2 years Kemi (so far) 1 year.
If Jenrick takes over now, on those precedents he will himself be replaced before a 2029 general election.
Yes, but since when has he placed judgement before his ambition?
Better to be leader ASAP for 6 weeks than to wait for a more favourable moment and risk never being leader at all.
Better to reign in Tory Heaven than serve in Reform Hell.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
I've often found it puzzling that the raw draw of all that potential tax money has never over-ridden the existing laws on cannabis.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
That’s going to end up being fairly Darwinian.
He could partially defend it on the basis of the UK policy ("the British system") on drugs up until the 1960s. In 2025 with ultra-addictive drugs and organised crime run supply lines, I'm not sure that it is practical politically or medically.
He's been in the job five minutes and managed to drag back up the whole legalise drugs issue which has plagued the greens on and off for decades.
Herefordshire North looking increasingly like a lost seat in 2029.
The boob hypnotist guy turned out to be useless? Shocked, shocked I tell you.
Never mind, if he stands aside there's always Mothin 'Sorry I stalked that Rabbi' Ali to fill the role.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
To say the Palestine protesters support the murder of British Jews is like saying those who oppose the protests support the slaughter in Gaza. Just nonsense on both counts.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
I've often found it puzzling that the raw draw of all that potential tax money has never over-ridden the existing laws on cannabis.
I was certain Jezza would go down that line, could have convinced non-voters to get to the polls and as Corbyn Jnr was in the CDB biz.
The leader of the Green Party says he wants to legalise all drugs, calling for an approach "led by public health experts, not politicians".
Speaking to BBC South East ahead of his party conference, Zack Polanski said he agreed with a Kent Green councillor, who earlier this year called for the legalisation of all drugs, including class A drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.
I think we can see how the Greens plan to improve the public finances!
I've often found it puzzling that the raw draw of all that potential tax money has never over-ridden the existing laws on cannabis.
Because you'd have all sorts of court cases against the government from the parents of deceased teenagers.
Home from the office in Glasgow just in time to beat the inevitable train chaos of the incoming storm. One does rather wonder if there's much impact assessment being done about the economic losses that will come from the increased amount of public transportation disruption in an increasingly stormy Scotland/Britain.
When the first storm of the season is Storm Aaron A. Aaronson then there might be a problem
Certainly getting quite stormy now. The trees I can see out the back of my flat are bending quite alarmingly.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
Yep. And other criminality. Hoods and thugs are well represented. The 'cause' is often not the draw.
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Really? That's a bit of a turn-up for the books.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
I have seen this stat a number of times, in fact I think I have used it on here. I am not sure I can remember the source though. I find it quite mind blowing and difficult to believe.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
Yep. And other criminality. Hoods and thugs are well represented. The 'cause' is often not the draw.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
Who wants to live forever?
In the exceptionally unlikely event this happens, I wonder what it would do to accident rates.
Would everyone be much more careful knowing that the loss was greater, or would they take the same risks as now?
Surely boredom would set in after a while.
Asimov explored this quite a bit in the Caves of Steel novels. Especially the effects on scientific progress if people think they will live for hundreds of years so can just keep working on a problem in isolation rather than sharing and collaborating.
I've always wondered why those books have never made it onto film or TV. Seem like the perfect mix of police procedural and sci-fi. A lot of closed sets too. Though given the utter mess Apple TV made of Foundation it's maybe for the best. There was a pretty decent R4 dramatisation starring Ed Bishop mind you :
Having read it all, it seems quite tricky to reproduce credibly, I'd speculate because Asimov was physically precise about his description of the massively complicated "world" he was imagining.
When they tried to do Bicentennial Man, which was a robot plot set in a recognisably human environment (as I read it suburban USA), it did not imo come across very well.
Starmer: Palestine protesters should ‘respect the grief of British Jews this week’
‘Peaceful protest is a cornerstone of our democracy – and there is justified concern about the suffering in Gaza – but a minority have used these protests as a pretext for stoking antisemitic tropes’
Good tweet. He’s better at that sort of thing, and foreign policy, than the cheesier party political stuff.
Notable that based on my Embassy chats last night the French seem to rate him a lot. The classic dilemma: the politician who’s more popular abroad than at home. Gorbachev, Blair, Macron, Varoufakis, probably Khamenei. As opposed to the politicians more popular at home than abroad (Trump, Hitler, Stalin, Erdogan, Xi, Modi, Lula, Putin…)
It's a fair point, and like Cameron he would be better as a Foreign Secretary than PM. He likes talking to foreigners, travelling abroad, thinking Big Thoughts, obeying international law, and similar stuff. But it's the wrong skillset for PM. He needs a right-hand-(wo)man who can steer the ship whilst he's off on a jolly. Like Cameron/Osborne, Blair/Brown, Brown/Darling, Major/Clarke, Thatcher/Howe or Thatcher/Lawson. I'm not sure Reeves fits the profile (oddly, Mahmood might?)
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
I have seen this stat a number of times, in fact I think I have used it on here. I am not sure I can remember the source though. I find it quite mind blowing and difficult to believe.
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Really? That's a bit of a turn-up for the books.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
The US and Israel won’t agree to that because they will see it as Hamas still there and not forced to dis-arm . Admittedly as you said it’s a good move politically.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
This is one of your most unnecessary posts ever. Not to be recommended.
Oh give over. I was teasing @Barnesian for his excessively self-congratulatory post. Have a sense of humour
Tho there is an underlying truth here. Science is probably quite close to solving longevity, and maybe even mortality
Try not to die, PBers, in the next 5-10 years. It would be a bummer to be the last human to die, just before they crack immortality. Like being the last soldier shot in the trenches, at 11:10, on 11/11/1918
Who wants to live forever?
In the exceptionally unlikely event this happens, I wonder what it would do to accident rates.
Would everyone be much more careful knowing that the loss was greater, or would they take the same risks as now?
Surely boredom would set in after a while.
Asimov explored this quite a bit in the Caves of Steel novels. Especially the effects on scientific progress if people think they will live for hundreds of years so can just keep working on a problem in isolation rather than sharing and collaborating.
I've always wondered why those books have never made it onto film or TV. Seem like the perfect mix of police procedural and sci-fi. A lot of closed sets too. Though given the utter mess Apple TV made of Foundation it's maybe for the best. There was a pretty decent R4 dramatisation starring Ed Bishop mind you :
Having read it all, it seems quite tricky to reproduce credibly, I'd speculate because Asimov was physically precise about his description of the massively complicated "world" he was imagining.
When they tried to do Bicentennial Man, which was a robot plot set in a recognisably human environment (as I read it suburban USA), it did not imo come across very well.
If you go back a bit - there were some quite contemporary UK TV Asimov adaptations. Which watching them now feels a bit 'cardboard and silver paint' - but also somehow quite apt and on-point.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
If they do solve longevity and reverse aging in that timescale then none of us on this forum will be able to afford it. Even the lawyers
The last generation to live. Or the last generation to die. The 2030s are going to be quite the emotional rollercoaster.
I am reading THE SIMULATION HYPOTHESIS by Zirk
With every day that passes, this hypothesis - insane as it seems - makes more sense
I don’t know the book but am familiar with the concept. It’s essentially God for tech bros, no?
When I was young and glib, I fluctuated between atheist and agnostic and back again. But the more life I live, the more I realise that reality is very strange indeed, and it’s a profound mystery why there is something rather than nothing.
I remain unimpressed by the specific doctrine of the global religions. But I recognise that they are mere cultural masks over the face of a broader truth. My view these days is best summed up by the idea that we are all but divine ideas of the mind of God. The effervescent bubbles of consciousness flowing back into the waterfall you once described.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
Personally, I don’t want to live until I’m 190.
Immortality (or even an extended lifespan) is pointless unless you can arrange eternal good health and youth. Ninety-year-olds can be in a very parlous way, on the verge of being deaf, blind, incontinent and chair/bedbound. You want thirty years of that?
Would you want to be seen, having crashed the economy?
There does not seem to be any good news for him to get ahead of. Not even the war he stopped between Armenia and Cambodia. (Checks notes - is that what he claimed? Really?? OK....) The war he stopped between Armenia and Cambodia....
Is there currently a war between Armenia and Cambodia? No. Proves Trump stopped it. Checkmate, libs.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
Yep. And other criminality. Hoods and thugs are well represented. The 'cause' is often not the draw.
Are you also that understanding about Copeland?
I'm not being understanding. I'm saying terrorists are often sordid little men acting for love of violence not of the cause (whatever it is).
@annmarie Hamas said it agreed “to release all Israeli prisoners — both living and deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula outlined in President Trump’s proposal, and contingent upon the necessary field conditions for carrying out the exchange.”
But also said other parts of Trump’s 20-point plan “require a unified national stance and must be addressed based on relevant international laws and resolutions.”
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Really? That's a bit of a turn-up for the books.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
The US and Israel won’t agree to that because they will see it as Hamas still there and not forced to dis-arm . Admittedly as you said it’s a good move politically.
Trump's proposal was he would run the Gaza Strip with Tony Blair helping him with some of the erm detail wasn't it?
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Really? That's a bit of a turn-up for the books.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
The US and Israel won’t agree to that because they will see it as Hamas still there and not forced to dis-arm . Admittedly as you said it’s a good move politically.
Trump's proposal was he would run the Gaza Strip with Tony Blair helping him with some of the erm detail wasn't it?
Understand Gordon Brown is asking Tony Blair 'when will you hand over to me?' all over again.
I see we've reached the 'stating the bleeding obvious' part of the evening.
Paul Brand @PaulBrandITV · 23m BREAKING: Greater Manchester Police say for the first time that they believe the Manchester synagogue terrorist Jihad Al-Shamie was influenced by “extreme Islamist ideology”.
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Really? That's a bit of a turn-up for the books.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
The US and Israel won’t agree to that because they will see it as Hamas still there and not forced to dis-arm . Admittedly as you said it’s a good move politically.
Trump's proposal was he would run the Gaza Strip with Tony Blair helping him with some of the erm detail wasn't it?
Understand Gordon Brown is asking Tony Blair 'when will you hand over to me?' all over again.
That made me LOL.
Chapeau.
Although very unfair on Gordon. He's far too sensible to take this mess on.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
I have seen this stat a number of times, in fact I think I have used it on here. I am not sure I can remember the source though. I find it quite mind blowing and difficult to believe.
@JenniferJJacobs Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
Great news, well that's quite a surprise to me. Maybe Trump really is going to get the Nobel Peace Prize!
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
Personally, I don’t want to live until I’m 190.
Immortality (or even an extended lifespan) is pointless unless you can arrange eternal good health and youth. Ninety-year-olds can be in a very parlous way, on the verge of being deaf, blind, incontinent and chair/bedbound. You want thirty years of that?
It's hard enough to imbue life with meaning. It would be impossible if it had no end.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
I'm not sure I want to live until I'm 190!
Heaven would be hell. To live for all eternity adoring God. How boring. Why do people find it attractive?
@annmarie Hamas said it agreed “to release all Israeli prisoners — both living and deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula outlined in President Trump’s proposal, and contingent upon the necessary field conditions for carrying out the exchange.”
But also said other parts of Trump’s 20-point plan “require a unified national stance and must be addressed based on relevant international laws and resolutions.”
Translation: Do not, under any circumstances, send Tony fucking Blair over here.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
I have seen this stat a number of times, in fact I think I have used it on here. I am not sure I can remember the source though. I find it quite mind blowing and difficult to believe.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
Personally, I don’t want to live until I’m 190.
Immortality (or even an extended lifespan) is pointless unless you can arrange eternal good health and youth. Ninety-year-olds can be in a very parlous way, on the verge of being deaf, blind, incontinent and chair/bedbound. You want thirty years of that?
It's hard enough to imbue life with meaning. It would be impossible if it had no end.
Quite so.
My impression of folks over 80 is that knowing that they have limited time left is something the generally are not too bothered about, indeed it is often a comfort to them.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
I have seen this stat a number of times, in fact I think I have used it on here. I am not sure I can remember the source though. I find it quite mind blowing and difficult to believe.
This is somehow worse, as not a moment of madness,
"18 per cent had been convicted more than 5 times."
It can be one event, but five charges.
Sure, but it is also then not a minor infraction. And convicted of more than 5, not just charged with, as common for some of them to get dropped to focus on one or two they believe they can definitely get a guilty on and that has come to fruition.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine. Peace out.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
I'm not sure I want to live until I'm 190!
Heaven would be hell. To live for all eternity adoring God. How boring. Why do people find it attractive?
And a thousand generations of relatives you have to make smalltalk with for the rest of eternity. Hellish.
The question is whether Hamas’s response will satisfy Israel and the White House. The statement, for example, did not address key elements of the American proposal that called on the group to give up its arms, which has been a major demand of Israel.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine. Peace out.
It's not really a "change mind" kind of thing. You said the videos of people celebrating the terrorist attack were not hard to find.
From Hamas point of view, releasing all the hostages, they lose any leverage. That is why it always makes me sceptical that they will go through with it without dragging it out for months. And of course on previous occasions, Israel went straight back to it as soon as a hostage release was missed.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine. Peace out.
It's not really a "change mind" kind of thing. You said the videos of people celebrating the terrorist attack were not hard to find.
From Hamas point of view, releasing all the hostages, they lose any leverage. That is why it always makes me sceptical that they will go through with it without dragging it out for months.
Hamas need to be pounded to the point they accept they have no leverage and surrender unconditionally, thus releasing all hostages.
From Hamas point of view, releasing all the hostages, they lose any leverage. That is why it always makes me sceptical that they will go through with it without dragging it out for months. And of course on previous occasions, Israel went straight back to it as soon as a hostage release was missed.
Plus, Hamas disarming is one of the requirements. Weapons beyond use etc as per NI.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine. Peace out.
It's not really a "change mind" kind of thing. You said the videos of people celebrating the terrorist attack were not hard to find.
Shouldn't take you long then.
It shouldn’t take you long either.
So you made an allegation, was asked for evidence, and haven't provided it.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
Perhaps we could learn the obvious lesson and take male violence against women seriously.
Democrat strategist on BBC News looks gutted that Trump might have actually cut a deal.
Whether it lasts is debatable. Average swing voters in the Midwest couldn't care less about the Middle East anyway they vote mainly on the economy and the impact of Trump's tariffs on jobs and prices are far more relevant to them
Labour secretly sabotaged the trial of two alleged spies after refusing to brand China an “enemy”, The Telegraph can disclose.
Prosecutors dropped charges last month against Christopher Cash, 30, and Christopher Berry, 33, who were accused of passing information about the Government’s foreign policy to a high-ranking member of the Chinese government.
But The Telegraph can now reveal that the case collapsed because ministers withdrew a star witness who had been tasked with testifying that China was an “enemy” of the UK.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) had previously been assured by the Conservative government that a senior civil servant would give evidence to establish that Beijing was an enemy of Britain, which was required for the prosecution to succeed. Plans were also laid for intelligence officials to testify in a closed court to protect their identity.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
Or the Jan 6th mob.
And thugs tend to direct their violence on people weaker than they are.
OT. It so happens that my sister and her vast family are members of the Heaton Park synagogue in Prestwich where the killing took place. They were there yesterday but thankfully undamaged. Indeed the last time I visited that synagogue was for the wedding of one of her children about five years ago.
I'm really not interested in getting into this anti semitism discussion particularly when it is as full of ignorance as it so often is on here when the leading racists take the stage.
But how is it after the wanton killings of newsmen babies small children photo journalists doctors nurses and at least 60,000 non combatents we know no details whatsoever about the life stories of any of them yet we are told out of respect for the synagogue attack all demonstations against the Gazan genocide should stop. Just don't offend Jews?
Does Netanyahu answer for anything? He is a proven liar and a butcher yet not a word from the Board of Deputies against him except that trying to charge him with genocide is an outrage.
British Jews opinion of Netanyahu is strongly negative*:
"95% of adult British Jews have an opinion on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the most widely known leader among those examined. Four in five Jews hold an unfavourable opinion of him, with 65% saying they “strongly disapprove” and 15% saying they “somewhat” disapprove of him."
You wouldn't know that if you just read the output of the Board of Deputies, or for that matter PB, or indeed British Jihadists.
* the poll is from 2024, but things have only got worse since.
I’m not sure I see the connection. The British Jews I know have a deeply unfavourite opinion of Bibi. Yet still consider Israel has the right to defend herself against external attack.
Sure, but when that defence turns into genocide?
You’ve been the king of whataboutery in the last 24hrs, which is disappointingly out of character. Two middle aged British Jews are dead, more in serious condition. As far as we know they have nothing to do with any supposed genocide thousands of miles away.
Exactly so. They had nothing to do with the genocide in Gaza.
The best response to terrorism is to keep calm and carry on, including a protest on an unrelated issue scheduled for tommorow.
But the whole point is that it’s not unrelated in the eyes of the “protestors”.
What evidence do you have for that?
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night. And while I recognise your polls, I do think that the quite bizarre focus on the Palestinian cause above all others is primarily driven by anti semitism, conscious or unwitting. It’s not a view that makes you friends in real life to be sure. Because it’s a very hard truth to hear. But it’s what I think.
Do you have any evidence of a "multitude of celebratory protests last night"?
It's quite some allegation.
The videos are not hard to find.
I have seen videos of protests about the genocide in Gaza and against the stopping of the Gaza flotilla, but not one celebrating the Manchester attack.
I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine. Peace out.
It's not really a "change mind" kind of thing. You said the videos of people celebrating the terrorist attack were not hard to find.
Shouldn't take you long then.
It shouldn’t take you long either.
You wrote, in response to a request for evidence to back up your assertion that protestors against the genocide in Gaza see murdering two British citizens as linked to this: 'My evidence is the multitude of celebratory “protests” around the uk last night.'
You then failed to produce this evidence, despite repeated requests. That seems a bit weak to me.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
Personally, I don’t want to live until I’m 190.
Immortality (or even an extended lifespan) is pointless unless you can arrange eternal good health and youth. Ninety-year-olds can be in a very parlous way, on the verge of being deaf, blind, incontinent and chair/bedbound. You want thirty years of that?
It's hard enough to imbue life with meaning. It would be impossible if it had no end.
Quite so.
My impression of folks over 80 is that knowing that they have limited time left is something the generally are not too bothered about, indeed it is often a comfort to them.
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
I'm not sure I want to live until I'm 190!
Heaven would be hell. To live for all eternity adoring God. How boring. Why do people find it attractive?
And a thousand generations of relatives you have to make smalltalk with for the rest of eternity. Hellish.
At least there is room in the afterlife for all of us whether we go with the angels and harps or devils and forks.
We will never live forever but if we did we could not house everyone and we haven't yet found other planets inhabitable for humans like Earth
It must have been so strange being born British in the 1920s.
You are born into the global hegemon. An industrial juggernaut. The world's reserve currency. The largest empire ever known. The undisputed ruler of the waves.
R3 had a recording of her performing in some Broadway musical. Decent contralto, if rather warbley.
This narrative from young rightwingers is becoming increasingly common. It misses out just how many people of thar generation enjoyed the 60s and 70s, like many relatives of mine, as a huge relief.
Oh, I'm sure that's true.
But either way the culture shock must have been considerable.
I often think the sweet spot was someone born in the late 30s. That does presuppose that you didn’t suffer loss in the war, but you’d be generally too young to remember much of it. Teenager in the relative stability of the 50s. Still young enough to enjoy the 60s.
Men, yes. Women perhaps not so much.
Dad was born in 1939. Remembers snippets of the war but not much. Served in the guards rather than national service then straight into Wiltshire Police for 30 years. Retired at 56 with a huge pay off (restructuring) and has now been retired as long as he served.
Pretty sweet spot.
I was born in 1943. I thoroughly enjoyed the sixties, married in 1968. Three kids and five grandsons all living within walking distance of me. Fired in 1995 (long story) with big pay off and large fully inflation protected pension. I'm extremely lucky. In good health. Skiing next year. And I'm still alive to see the fantastic AI revolution. What a time to be alive! I think I hit the sweet spot.
Except you're going to die about five years before they solve longevity, reverse ageing and everyone lives until they're 190, or forever
So, maybe not such a sweet spot
Personally, I don’t want to live until I’m 190.
Immortality (or even an extended lifespan) is pointless unless you can arrange eternal good health and youth. Ninety-year-olds can be in a very parlous way, on the verge of being deaf, blind, incontinent and chair/bedbound. You want thirty years of that?
It's hard enough to imbue life with meaning. It would be impossible if it had no end.
Quite so.
My impression of folks over 80 is that knowing that they have limited time left is something the generally are not too bothered about, indeed it is often a comfort to them.
Even with eternal youth it's beyond bleak as a proposition. If you had unlimited time to do things you would do nothing. A living coma.
Three more people have been arrested by police investigating the attack.
The arrests of the man and two women, aged between 18 and their mid-40s, brings the total number of people held on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism to six, greater Manchester Police has said.
Kitty Donaldson @kitty_donaldson · 2h NEW: Allies of Robert Jenrick are collecting no confidence letters from Conservative MPs calling for party leader Kemi Badenoch to quit, The i Paper has been told.
"The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers."
This follows quite a similar pattern of a lot of these people. They have a criminal background for low level stuff.
One of the tactics ISIS recruiters used was to lean on such people that their unIslamic behaviour could never be undone without making the ultimate sacrifice.
Joan Smith has written extensively about how often terrorists have a record of domestic violence or violence against women.
As indeed we saw with those arrested in last summers race riots, where 40% had prior convictions for domestic violence.
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
Or the Jan 6th mob.
And thugs tend to direct their violence on people weaker than they are.
To be fair on the Jan 6th guys they did take on... the US Capitol. Even the most stupid among them must have known there was a good chance the police would kill them on entry.
Given the endless videos of American police rinsing criminals with hundreds of bullets it remains a mystery why they weren't given the same treatment.
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With every day that passes, this hypothesis - insane as it seems - makes more sense
By the way the Chinese have news on this theme:
https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1974107386827977011?s=46
In the exceptionally unlikely event this happens, I wonder what it would do to accident rates.
Would everyone be much more careful knowing that the loss was greater, or would they take the same risks as now?
Surely boredom would set in after a while.
Financial crises are generally very difficult to recover from, especially if you have a large financial sector. Ireland was running a surplus in 2007 and got hit very hard by the crisis.
And clearly the credit card wasn't "maxed" because we went out and more than doubled debt as a % of GDP in the 10 years.
In fact the biggest mistake we made from that period (and sadly I must admit labour would have made the same mistake) is that we cut govt investment and capital spending enormously, at a time when borrowing was essentially free, which doomed our eocnomy to a a decade and a half of stagnation...
My hunch is that some of our current social problems come from a generation who don't want to leave the stage blocking the pipeline further back. Immortality would make that much worse.
To every thing there is a season and whatnot.
I don't think it was Starmer's intention but he's made it more important than ever to assert that opposing Netanyahu's actions does not equate to anti-Semitism.
I am strongly anti-drugs having seen the damage which cannabis and other drugs cause, and want to see a reduction but it should be an evidence based approach.
A 24 year old had his bladder removed in my hospital recently, and was very pleased to have a permenant urostomy bag. He had Ketamine bladder.
I've always wondered why those books have never made it onto film or TV. Seem like the perfect mix of police procedural and sci-fi. A lot of closed sets too. Though given the utter mess Apple TV made of Foundation it's maybe for the best. There was a pretty decent R4 dramatisation starring Ed Bishop mind you :
https://archive.org/details/isaac-asimov-the-caves-of-steel
Herefordshire North looking increasingly like a lost seat in 2029.
@extremetemps
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Save this map for the books because this is HISTORIC
From 36C in SPAIN to snow in the Balkans
Unbelievable maximum temps <5C at low elevations;
One for all:Kraljevo,SERBIA 215m asl Min 0.4 Max 4.2
with few hours of snow.
Not even Centenarians had ever lived this
https://x.com/extremetemps
Never mind, if he stands aside there's always Mothin 'Sorry I stalked that Rabbi' Ali to fill the role.
Unless you think opposing genocide in Gaza and our governments inadequate response is purely driven by anti-semitism.
If so then you are way out of line with British public opinion:
https://yougov.co.uk/international/articles/52694-british-attitudes-to-the-israel-gaza-conflict-july-2025-update
Hamas says it has approved "the release of all occupation prisoners — both living and the remains of the deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula set forth in President Trump’s proposal, provided that appropriate field conditions are ensured for the exchange process" and agrees to "hand over the administration of the Gaza Strip to a Palestinian body."
I think you also have to take into account that a third of British men have a criminal record by the age of 50.
There's a lot of it about. We even used to have a poster here who was remanded in custody for rape.
Good news, however, I note the detail at the end, which Netanyahu might veto. This is quite an unusually politucally smart move by Hamas, though, because it makes it politically harder for him to do that than usual.
Go on, sort out Ukraine next, Donnie.
This isn't the first time this has happened this year.
It's quite some allegation.
Having read it all, it seems quite tricky to reproduce credibly, I'd speculate because Asimov was physically precise about his description of the massively complicated "world" he was imagining.
When they tried to do Bicentennial Man, which was a robot plot set in a recognisably human environment (as I read it suburban USA), it did not imo come across very well.
We need good news more than ever
See figure 1 on page 4.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7c98db40f0b65b3de09ea1/criminal-histories-bulletin.pdf
https://www.slashfilm.com/1949774/sci-fi-anthology-series-out-of-the-unknown-isaac-asimov-best-stories/
When I was young and glib, I fluctuated between atheist and agnostic and back again. But the more life I live, the more I realise that reality is very strange indeed, and it’s a profound mystery why there is something rather than nothing.
I remain unimpressed by the specific doctrine of the global religions. But I recognise that they are mere cultural masks over the face of a broader truth. My view these days is best summed up by the idea that we are all but divine ideas of the mind of God. The effervescent bubbles of consciousness flowing back into the waterfall you once described.
Hamas said it agreed “to release all Israeli prisoners — both living and deceased — in accordance with the exchange formula outlined in President Trump’s proposal, and contingent upon the necessary field conditions for carrying out the exchange.”
But also said other parts of Trump’s 20-point plan “require a unified national stance and must be addressed based on relevant international laws and resolutions.”
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BREAKING: Greater Manchester Police say for the first time that they believe the Manchester synagogue terrorist Jihad Al-Shamie was influenced by “extreme Islamist ideology”.
Chapeau.
Although very unfair on Gordon. He's far too sensible to take this mess on.
"18 per cent had been convicted more than 5 times."
Heaven would be hell.
To live for all eternity adoring God.
How boring.
Why do people find it attractive?
Nice
https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1974205362157883806?t=t-a1LgfxtDsXOFs2EyxVLA&s=19
My impression of folks over 80 is that knowing that they have limited time left is something the generally are not too bothered about, indeed it is often a comfort to them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5klgv5zv0o
NY Times live blog
Shouldn't take you long then.
No sign of agreeing to that.
Noted.
Prosecutors dropped charges last month against Christopher Cash, 30, and Christopher Berry, 33, who were accused of passing information about the Government’s foreign policy to a high-ranking member of the Chinese government.
But The Telegraph can now reveal that the case collapsed because ministers withdrew a star witness who had been tasked with testifying that China was an “enemy” of the UK.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) had previously been assured by the Conservative government that a senior civil servant would give evidence to establish that Beijing was an enemy of Britain, which was required for the prosecution to succeed. Plans were also laid for intelligence officials to testify in a closed court to protect their identity.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/10/03/labour-secretly-sabotaged-china-spy-trial/
I am sure Labour desire to make nice with the Chinese has nothing to do with it.
And thugs tend to direct their violence on people weaker than they are.
You then failed to produce this evidence, despite repeated requests. That seems a bit weak to me.
ETA I see TSE beat me to it.
We will never live forever but if we did we could not house everyone and we haven't yet found other planets inhabitable for humans like Earth
The arrests of the man and two women, aged between 18 and their mid-40s, brings the total number of people held on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism to six, greater Manchester Police has said.
Robert Jenrick twinned with Andy Burnham.
Given the endless videos of American police rinsing criminals with hundreds of bullets it remains a mystery why they weren't given the same treatment.