It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
At least it shows ambition. Which is sorely lacking in so many areas
I loathe this government but I’m happy to applaud them if this comes true
So you are saying there is a large upside potential?
It’s becoming ever clearer that Britain’s primary economic problem is penny-pinching households and businesses. Labour have managed to suppress confidence even further since their election. Reeves’ number one priority at the budget should be to boost confidence.
The lack of confidence is a symptom of the problem, not the problem in itself. The problem is a state that seems determined to strangle economic growth, even as it gaslights about wanting to boost it. That causes low confidence. And to boost confidence in the private sector, which is the ultimate source of all long term economic growth, the government needs to stop raising taxes on the productive and enterprising, cut spending on unproductive malingerers and losers and deregulate.
But they're going to jack up taxes further, especially no doubt those taxes (business and payroll) that hurt growth in the long term and regulate more. And they've failed spectacularly to cut spending despite a gigantic majority.
So, barring some miracle or change in the laws of economics, we have at least three more years of stagnation.
I would love to be wrong about this but I'm almost certain.
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It’s been a structural problem for this country since 2008. Labour may make it worse or better, but look around at our peers and most are in a similar position. The big area where we’re worse is in business investment and productivity growth, and there we lag several countries with much higher taxes and a much larger public sector.
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Yes. And just to follow up with an off the wall question. IIRC the UK economy is heavily dependent on consumer spending for its vitality and health; I think we are being told that people are cautious about discretionary spending because of doubts about the future and so on.
Suppose a few million people are undergoing a bit of a zeitgeist shift, one which is entirely possible. The shift is this: that discretionary consumerism is massively overdone and most of the best things in life, once the non-discretionary bills are paid, are either free or inexpensive.
Instances: Tickling the baby's toes. Walks, countryside. Youtube. Drinking with friends at home instead of the pub.
----- You are right. Quotes are borked. Sorted-ish, but I may be misattributing.
I'd call that a philosophy not a zeitgeist, and I'd put it in the ABO category ("Absolutely Bloody Obvious").
One of my favourite quotes that is still in my head is from decades back (maybe 1990), when I was thinking about such things:
"I like going window shopping to look at all the expensive things I don't need to buy."
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Another factor is that covid had a double effect - reminded us of our mortality and at the same time disrupted habitual patterns. Hence "Bugger going into the office for another few years - I want to jack it in and do something else which gives me time to tickle the baby's toes before I die" etc.
But also don't forget that older folk are increasingly worried about health and social care (and indeed this is also partly down to the covid era). This was something that came up in a recent Which article, based on a surveyu of members. They may have saved up but aren't going to buiy shares in UK plc if they don't feel safe, never mind what their patriotic duty is (or indeed in anyone else). And with the various bogeypersons of/for both Left and Right roaming around, they're not irrational.
That wasn't me. But I probably wasn't quoting him !
No, not aimed at you or indeed anyone so much as mulling over the notion as to what might be changing habits and thouights!
A lot of right wing Americans on X have - understandably - reached the conclusion that mad lefties will kill them simply for their beliefs. Not actions. Beliefs
This sounds familiar. Pseudonymous posting on the internet means that posters really could be anyone.
'I couldn't care less', Trump says about division within the country The president, when asked about how we “fix the country” or “come back together” after Kirk’s shooting, says that he “couldn’t care less”.
“The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime. They don’t want to see crime, worried about the border,” Trump says. “The radicals on the left are the problem, and they’re vicious and they’re horrible and they’re politically savvy”.
A lot of right wing Americans on X have - understandably - reached the conclusion that mad lefties will kill them simply for their beliefs. Not actions. Beliefs
Here's the danger of social media. It allows people to publish their internal monologues. Our internal monologues and fantasies are often incredibly ugly. People go to therapists because they feel so guilty about them
So you are saying there is a large upside potential?
Yes, plus it is good for Labour that they aren't peaking too soon before the election.
GDP growth has actually been faster than most of the G7 this year. It just really hasn’t felt like it.
Well I shall be doing my bit for economic growth this week, as I have ordered four new Apple watches and five new iPhones.
That’s deserving of an MBE. We should start handing out gongs for ordinary people making extraordinary purchases.
I need a peerage for my sacrifice, if you want to see how damaging inflation is then is it.
Last year the top end iPhone 16 Pro Max cost £1,599 and the top end iPhone 17 Pro Max is costing be £1,999.
Okay, it is has gone from a 1TB storage to a 2TB storage but still.
Microsoft emailed me today to say my MS365 subscription is going up from 59.99 to 84.99.
This is discretionary inflation. Which means growing margins, which means more money for corporates to invest in productivity growth.
Microsoft keep emailing to say my payment method is out of date. I have tried 3 forms of payment and each time I get the message that my payment has failed.
If someone phones you, allegedly from Microsoft, and offers to help you reset your payment, hang up.
This is another 25th Amendment interview. Dangerous, batshit crazy, encouraging political violence and law breaking. Old man, in declining health, just shitting all over the country.....
So you are saying there is a large upside potential?
Yes, plus it is good for Labour that they aren't peaking too soon before the election.
GDP growth has actually been faster than most of the G7 this year. It just really hasn’t felt like it.
Well I shall be doing my bit for economic growth this week, as I have ordered four new Apple watches and five new iPhones.
That’s deserving of an MBE. We should start handing out gongs for ordinary people making extraordinary purchases.
I need a peerage for my sacrifice, if you want to see how damaging inflation is then is it.
Last year the top end iPhone 16 Pro Max cost £1,599 and the top end iPhone 17 Pro Max is costing be £1,999.
Okay, it is has gone from a 1TB storage to a 2TB storage but still.
Microsoft emailed me today to say my MS365 subscription is going up from 59.99 to 84.99.
This is discretionary inflation. Which means growing margins, which means more money for corporates to invest in productivity growth.
Microsoft keep emailing to say my payment method is out of date. I have tried 3 forms of payment and each time I get the message that my payment has failed.
I posted back in April that anyone using a family or personal Microsoft subscription should renew as soon as possible.
My family subscription will run to June 2030 at which point we will know if AI is useful on an individual basis or only in specialist areas
Indeed. See my posts earlier today discussing the issue with TimS if you haven't - it is not the same, but has an extra large chunk charged because of AI, but it's possible - at least at the moment - to make them go back to thbe original sub, called Classic.
A lot of right wing Americans on X have - understandably - reached the conclusion that mad lefties will kill them simply for their beliefs. Not actions. Beliefs
Here's the danger of social media. It allows people to publish their internal monologues. Our internal monologues and fantasies are often incredibly ugly. People go to therapists because they feel so guilty about them
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
I hadn’t thought of that. Yes that makes it even worse. And it is already one of the cruelest fates I can imagine for a parent
Jeez. What wouid I do? Like you I’m not at all sure I’d hand them over to be electrocuted. In fact I probably wouldn’t
I’d find some moral contortion to excuse what they did and I’d probably help them escape. Which is actually a pretty good argument against the death penalty
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
Given the uncertainties in such a thing, there's also the worry about false confession due to mental illness (which is a real problem for the police anyway).
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
Isn't the suggestion that Farage bought the house through his partner to avoid the extra Stamp Duty? That is perfectly legal, in the sense that he gives his partner money as a gift to buy the house and has no legal interest in it, but politically suboptimal. I didn't think there was a suggestion that his partner hadn't paid the tax due if it was her purchase (which seems to be what the quoted article is about).
Farage/partner don't owe any tax and have certainly done nothing illegal, but having partner buy the home you live in for tax efficiency purposes (if it was Farage's money rather than hers, which is not yet determined) looks a bit hypocritical given the attacks on Rayner.
It all looks perfectly legal. The issues are:
a) Politicians doing something to avoid tax that would be perfectly reasonable for all of us to do, but they are held to a higher standard, which is bizarre as most have demonstrated they are not capable of even meeting the standards joe public meets.
b) Telling fibs about it (which I think is the more damaging). Those fibs being that when challenged on not visiting Clacton saying he had exchanged on a house that day and then the issues of it being her money and not his (or is it?). Again pretty unfair, because he has done more than many MPs to establish a constituency home* and hasn't done anything wrong, but is being caught out by embellishing his arrangement somewhat.
* Michael Gove claimed to be local to Surrey Hearth by renting a house, then buggered off when he got elected. The previous Conservative MP for Guildford claimed to live in Guildford, and bought a flat there, but in reality lived in a family home about 20 miles outside the constituency. Lots of MPs do this. Establish a home of sorts during the election for electioneering purposes, then drop it.
Farage has put in as much effort as many, but is being caught out by the link to the Rayner issue and a few stretches of the truth.
20 miles away isn't a biggy in normal circs, though for Clacton that could mean a 2 hour drive (or a small boat crossing ).
I thought Farage has said that he didn't gift her the money and that it's her family money. Which has raised more questions because journos' research is that her family doesn't have money.
I agree it isn't a biggy. I was just pointing out the lengths many MPs go to imply they are local (ie living in the constituency) by renting a house or buying a flat in the constituency. 20 miles away is peanuts, but the prospective MPs are keen to show they actually live in the constituency, even if that is actually not really true.
Re your second point, that is really the second point I was also making. Farage has put more effort than many MPs is creating a perception of being local, but has got himself in a pickle by claiming 'he' exchanged on a house and now that is shown not to be the case the issue of who funded the purchase crops up and did she really have the resources to do so having claimed she did. Many other MPs have far less credible stories regarding their local credentials, but aren't getting this scrutiny.
He has actually done nothing wrong and done more than many MPs to create local credentials, but appears to have been tripped up by exaggerating (or lying) about some of it. Many other MPs are probably going 'Phew that could have been me'
Jonny Diamond on WATO made a mess of this, kept referring to "Farage's wife", facepalm.
It probably won't matter but Nige does seem to have dug himself a hole, if he'd gifted her the money then no issue, but that the source of the money is now a mystery is a potential problem. The obvious scenario is that it's come from generous donor(s) but gone to her so Nige isn't liable for additional stamp duty.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
A lot of right wing Americans on X have - understandably - reached the conclusion that mad lefties will kill them simply for their beliefs. Not actions. Beliefs
This cannot end well for the USA
Assassinations (including attempted) in the US in the last year Democrats: Josh Shapiro, Melissa Hortman and her husband, John Hoffman and his wife Republican: Charlie Kirk
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Does one also become a shit if you use a horrific crime and a tragedy for a woman to score a point on PB?
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Does one also become a shit if you use a horrific crime and a tragedy for a woman to score a point on PB?
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Just as no one was expected to comment on the awfulness of the murder of the Ukrainian woman in North Carolina, no one is expected to comment on the awfulness of this alleged crime.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Does one also become a shit if you use a horrific crime and a tragedy for a woman to score a point on PB?
If you only ever use horrific crimes and a tragedy in one direction, yes.
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
That will be the OpenAi who also committed to $100bn a year of spending with Oracle this week?
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
That will be the OpenAi who also committed to $100bn a year of spending with Oracle this week?
The numbers literally don’t add up
It's a bubble. A really, really massive bubble that will burst.
Incidentally, it bursting might be rather good for the environment as well.
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
One imagines that this will prevent the death penalty now that he has handed himself in, probably life in prison with no parole.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
That will be the OpenAi who also committed to $100bn a year of spending with Oracle this week?
The numbers literally don’t add up
It's a bubble. A really, really massive bubble that will burst.
Incidentally, it bursting might be rather good for the environment as well.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Does one also become a shit if you use a horrific crime and a tragedy for a woman to score a point on PB?
If you only ever use horrific crimes and a tragedy in one direction, yes.
Iirc, students who were due to move into that accommodation were told the government had acquired at the beginning of the 2023 academic year and accomodation had to be re-arranged. (the site had had multiple issues as a private student residence from opening - cladding, rule breaking mixed occupancy including Airbnb and the solvency of the owners)
I'm not aware that use of this site has commenced.
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
One imagines that this will prevent the death penalty now that he has handed himself in, probably life in prison with no parole.
Had he not handed himself in, there’s a decent chance he would not have survived the arrest. The father perhaps considers the possibility of a commuted sentence as a question for another day.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
I see you got the expected silence from the shits.
Does one also become a shit if you use a horrific crime and a tragedy for a woman to score a point on PB?
If you only ever use horrific crimes and a tragedy in one direction, yes.
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
That will be the OpenAi who also committed to $100bn a year of spending with Oracle this week?
The numbers literally don’t add up
It's a bubble. A really, really massive bubble that will burst.
Incidentally, it bursting might be rather good for the environment as well.
This internet thing is never going to catch on…
I'm unsure your comparison is correct.
But even if it is, there was an Internet bubble and resultant crash as well, after which the Internet continued. A massive bubble bursting does not mean that the underlying tech is never seen again, or proves massively useful. With things like railways (two bubbles) or the dot-com bubble, the tech continued even if lots of people lost their shirts and economies crashed.
The question is whether the AI bubble will be more like the Tulip mania...
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
One imagines that this will prevent the death penalty now that he has handed himself in, probably life in prison with no parole.
You probably imagine wrong.
Kirk is the regime's Horst Wessel and they will demand the death penalty. (Interestingly, Wessel's killer got a relatively short sentence for manslaughter, as both were armed and Wessel seems to have gone for his gun first, but the killer was later kidnapped from prison and extrajudicially executed by the Gestapo)
But he doesn't seem to have handed himself in. The story is he confessed to his father who detained him while the police arrived.
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
One imagines that this will prevent the death penalty now that he has handed himself in, probably life in prison with no parole.
It's the US, I can't see it making any difference to the avowed intent to seek the death penalty.
I see that this has precipitated another level in the social media witch-hunts.
It’s a data Centre - a few jobs building it, a few jobs replacing equipment as it fails but a serious amount of energy required to the extent that in the US companies are buying nuclear power stations to ensure they get enough power.
I really don’t regard it as a great deal for the UK
It’s several billion in data centre investment, large amounts of construction spend and construction jobs, substantial grid upgrades supported by government and an addition to what has been recently designated critical national infrastructure.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
The rumour is that a data centre is planned in the Flatlands on the site of an old power station.
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
That will be the OpenAi who also committed to $100bn a year of spending with Oracle this week?
The numbers literally don’t add up
It's a bubble. A really, really massive bubble that will burst.
Incidentally, it bursting might be rather good for the environment as well.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Farage joins the fray over hiring Mandelson with a full on attack on Starmer and McSweeney
Sky saying no 10 trying to shut this down
Good luck with that
The real problem for Starmer is the claim that the emails and other stuff wasn’t previously known. So either the vetting team was useless or that isn’t true.
The security services briefing seems to push back against the “useless vetting”
As ever, the denials and evasions are spreading the story and keeping it alive.
A lot of right wing Americans on X have - understandably - reached the conclusion that mad lefties will kill them simply for their beliefs. Not actions. Beliefs
Here's the danger of social media. It allows people to publish their internal monologues. Our internal monologues and fantasies are often incredibly ugly. People go to therapists because they feel so guilty about them
With, Kash Patel, a Trump placement as Director of the FBI they are likely to come up with whatever narrative best suits Trump's agenda. You simply can't accept anything in the US at face value anymore sadly. Trump stooges are in place everywhere.
With, Kash Patel, a Trump placement as Director of the FBI they are likely to come up with whatever narrative best suits Trump's agenda. You simply can't accept anything in the US at face value anymore sadly. Trump stooges are in place everywhere.
With, Kash Patel, a Trump placement as Director of the FBI they are likely to come up with whatever narrative best suits Trump's agenda. You simply can't accept anything in the US at face value anymore sadly. Trump stooges are in place everywhere.
Most young people are on social media so that might throw up more about his ideological leanings . I agree though the US administration is corrupt and and will try and ensure that they can try and blame the so called radical left for the shooting .
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
You're creating a very singular situation, and saying that only that situation is worthy of reprisals.
Yes, there are loads of measures and laws to prevent racism. And it still occurs - including on here.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure done necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye watering amounts of money on buried fibre optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which wax fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is almost a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
There are differences: cable infrastructure - at least the really expensive underground stuff - can give decades of economic use. The data centres may only be useful for a handful of years before the servers / chips are utterly outdated as the tech moves on.
(Yes, I know the cable networks have pooters in hubs as well; but AIUI that's not where most of the expense went.)
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure done necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye watering amounts of money on buried fibre optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which wax fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is almost a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
Except to improve an LLM model over the previous model requires spending billions of dollars and the amount of money being spent to use those models isn’t there.
Heck it’s hard to find an AI firm that isn’t Nvidia or a consultancy that is cash flow positive on an operational level even if you ignore investments
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
You're creating a very singular situation, and saying that only that situation is worthy of reprisals.
Yes, there are loads of measures and laws to prevent racism. And it still occurs - including on here.
I don’t think so. The reason for the anger over Epping almost certainly has its roots in the unmentionable. Without it there wouldn’t have been the reaction we saw there
Had there been decades of systematic white on non white sexual abuse, covered up by the authorities, the reaction @OnlyLivingBoy descrined would have been understandable. Even then it’s not really a parallel, because there aren’t hotels full of white, racist knuckleheads plonked in the middle of largely Asian neighbourhoods
Two law enforcement sources tell @CBSNews the supsect Tyler Robsinson’s father reported his son to clergy. Clergy took the tip to the U.S. Marshals Service.
President Trump announced this morning it was someone close to the supsect who turned him in.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
One of the ISPs built a super-duper expensive data centre near London at the peak of the boom.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure done necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye watering amounts of money on buried fibre optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which wax fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is almost a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
Except to improve an LLM model over the previous model requires spending billions of dollars and the amount of money being spent to use those models isn’t there.
Heck it’s hard to find an AI firm that isn’t Nvidia or a consultancy that is cash flow positive on an operational level even if you ignore investments
I think we’re in agreement, actually. Unless you think LLM and datacentre investment is going to stop, we’re going to see a similar pattern with infrastructure being built at great cost and to the great benefit of business overall, but likely not to the benefit of those actually building it (well the construction companies and property funds will do well).
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
You're creating a very singular situation, and saying that only that situation is worthy of reprisals.
Yes, there are loads of measures and laws to prevent racism. And it still occurs - including on here.
I don’t think so. The reason for the anger over Epping almost certain has its roots in the unmentionable. Without it there wouldn’t have been the reaction we saw in Epping
Had there been decades of systematic white on non white sexual abuse, covered up by the authorities, the reaction @OnlyLivingBoy descrined would have been understandable. Even then it’s not really a parallel, because there aren’t hotels full of white, racist knuckleheads plonked in the middle of largely Asian neighbourhoods
Again, you are saying this awful situation is somehow superior, or worse, than many other situations that have occurred against ethnic minorities. It isn't. Stephen Lawrence (as just one example...)
Also, the Catholic church has a long and terrible history of abusing kids and others, and is at the heart of many of our communities. Yet I don't see this sort of action against them, despite the decades of official cover-ups.
The riots do not have much to do with keeping kids safe. It's racism, pure and simple. Which is why so many of the people involved in last year's unrest had *interesting* previous histories.
edit: and you could replace 'Catholic church' with the CofE as well. And I daresay other organisations. Which is the point: abuse has been, and is, much more common than many of us like to think.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
What are the odds it'll make a tiny number obscenely wealthy. The rest worse off. And society at large even more of a moral cesspit?
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
Yes, because there is zero history of racism against blacks or Asians in this country. Absolutely none.
There’s no need to be unfunny about it, I’m trying to address the point
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
You're creating a very singular situation, and saying that only that situation is worthy of reprisals.
Yes, there are loads of measures and laws to prevent racism. And it still occurs - including on here.
I don’t think so. The reason for the anger over Epping almost certain has its roots in the unmentionable. Without it there wouldn’t have been the reaction we saw in Epping
Had there been decades of systematic white on non white sexual abuse, covered up by the authorities, the reaction @OnlyLivingBoy descrined would have been understandable. Even then it’s not really a parallel, because there aren’t hotels full of white, racist knuckleheads plonked in the middle of largely Asian neighbourhoods
Again, you are saying this awful situation is somehow superior, or worse, than many other situations that have occurred against ethnic minorities. It isn't. Stephen Lawrence (as just one example...)
Also, the Catholic church has a long and terrible history of abusing kids and others, and is at the heart of many of our communities. Yet I don't see this sort of action against them, despite the decades of official cover-ups.
The riots do not have much to do with keeping kids safe. It's racism, pure and simple. Which is why so many of the people involved in last year's unrest had *interesting* previous histories.
edit: and you could replace 'Catholic church' with the CofE as well. And I daresay other organisations. Which is the point: abuse has been, and is, much more common than many of us like to think.
But ethnic minorities, rightly or wrongly, have rioted, haven’t they?
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
I don't know. The main companies involved are clearly hoping that they will establish a level of dominance akin to Amazon/Google/Facebook and so be able to charge monopoly rents at a later stage.
Allegations of an Asian woman raped by two white men who told her she shouldn't be in the UK. Should heavily tatooed Asians start picketing branches of Wetherspoons with signs saying "save are kids"? I believe that is the PB rightist approved response to this kind of incident.
If it happened on an industrial scale and was covered up by the authorities for fear of upsetting the kind of people who did it, such a reaction would be justified.
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
The recent protests were triggered by a single allegation (subsequently proven) against an asylum seeker, not by the grooming gang scandals.
You could argue that but, without the previous scandal there wouldn’t have been enough pent up anger for the recent allegation to cause such fuss
I am arguing that, because it's true. Attack in Epping, protests in Epping. Not sure Rochdale etc was a factor, given it happened some time ago, in a place some way away and involved an entirely different set of perpetrators to the Epping case (which was a single guy, not a gang).
This vomit inducing beatification of Kirk . Thank heavens we live in Europe .
I don’t understand why there is so much fuss about this guy. He’s not British. He’s not even European. It’s high time we weaned ourselves off the obsession with all things American.
Patel what an embarrassment. I’m surprised they didn’t release doves with that Valhalla guff .
Shades of Goebbels sickly beatification of Horst Wessel. The irony was that Wessel, regardless of the Nazis turning him into a martyr, was actually killed by members of the KPD even if it was essentially a dumb tenancy dispute. The proclivities of Charlie Kirk's murder yet tbc.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
More to the point, in gold rushes, the people who get rich are mostly the ones selling shovels.
Building data centres will be good for your wealth, owning and running them to run your models, less so.
I mean, of course it is a bubble. New technology pretty much always has bubbles.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
Yeah, the underlying technology is fine
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
Yes, the bubble / gold rush analogy is a good one. Those who build the infrastructure don’t necessarily reap the benefits.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
More to the point, in gold rushes, the people who get rich are mostly the ones selling shovels.
Building data centres will be good for your wealth, owning and running them to run your models, less so.
Hence Nvidia doing so well for instance.
This hasn't been true in the internet age. Google, Facebook, Amazon are all new companies for the web.
I'm not making any predictions about so-called AI, but I'd now that there's a lot of misplaced certainty on both sides.
The suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk confessed to his father that he was the shooter. His father told authorities and secured his son until they could arrive to pick him up— Sources tell @evanperez
How awful for the father. An utter parental nightmare. So sad
Particularly given the stated intention to pursue the death penalty (that I think I saw).
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
One imagines that this will prevent the death penalty now that he has handed himself in, probably life in prison with no parole.
You probably imagine wrong.
Kirk is the regime's Horst Wessel and they will demand the death penalty. (Interestingly, Wessel's killer got a relatively short sentence for manslaughter, as both were armed and Wessel seems to have gone for his gun first, but the killer was later kidnapped from prison and extrajudicially executed by the Gestapo)
But he doesn't seem to have handed himself in. The story is he confessed to his father who detained him while the police arrived.
We can't tell on penalties imo.
Trump's DOJ is an entirely politicised legal department, that had already months and months ago required their prosecutors to deceive Courts despite their professional ethics as lawyers and status as Officers of the Court.
In they Garcia case, they sacked the prosecutor who told the truth to the Judge.
In this case they have already been all over public media with commentary that prejudices the Court process.
It's about imposed theology, but is interesting in demonstrating how the current Republicans etc decisively reject former - eg Reaganite Conservatism. They want something of a larger State to impose their views, and to bring the church into the State.
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I loathe this government but I’m happy to applaud them if this comes true
BREAKING: Police have taken into custody the man they believe is responsible for shooting and killing Charlie Kirk.
A family member saw the photos of the suspect in the shooting of Charlie Kirk and turned him into police, two senior law enforcement officials say.
https://bsky.app/profile/nbcnews.com/post/3lynbo2ere22f
Another factor is that covid had a double effect - reminded us of our mortality and at the same time disrupted habitual patterns. Hence "Bugger going into the office for another few years - I want to jack it in and do something else which gives me time to tickle the baby's toes before I die" etc.
But also don't forget that older folk are increasingly worried about health and social care (and indeed this is also partly down to the covid era). This was something that came up in a recent Which article, based on a surveyu of members. They may have saved up but aren't going to buiy shares in UK plc if they don't feel safe, never mind what their patriotic duty is (or indeed in anyone else). And with the various bogeypersons of/for both Left and Right roaming around, they're not irrational.
That wasn't me. But I probably wasn't quoting him !
No, not aimed at you or indeed anyone so much as mulling over the notion as to what might be changing habits and thouights!
This cannot end well for the USA
The president, when asked about how we “fix the country” or “come back together” after Kirk’s shooting, says that he “couldn’t care less”.
“The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime. They don’t want to see crime, worried about the border,” Trump says. “The radicals on the left are the problem, and they’re vicious and they’re horrible and they’re politically savvy”.
Here's the danger of social media. It allows people to publish their internal monologues. Our internal monologues and fantasies are often incredibly ugly. People go to therapists because they feel so guilty about them
https://x.com/jpodhoretz/status/1966474548762607694
ETA: I was behind of latest developments, clearly.
This is another 25th Amendment interview. Dangerous, batshit crazy, encouraging political violence and law breaking. Old man, in declining health, just shitting all over the country.....
https://bsky.app/profile/simonwdc.bsky.social/post/3lynccaz7kk25
My kid murders* someone, I'd hold them for law enforcement, I think, here. But if the death penalty would apply, well I'm not at all sure I would.
*Precluding some pretty serious mitigating circumstances, but then that would likely make it not murder and that would still be better to argue in court than be on the run, probably.
And it’s AI DCs which are absolutely critical to sustaining our growing AI industry here - growing to the extent I have US colleagues remarking that “all the AI talent is in the UK right now”.
But this is the British way. We don’t like people building things.
Jeez. What wouid I do? Like you I’m not at all sure I’d hand them over to be electrocuted. In fact I probably wouldn’t
I’d find some moral contortion to excuse what they did and I’d probably help them escape. Which is actually a pretty good argument against the death penalty
Obviously has massive grid connections, and I believe a battery storage facility is being built.
I'll believe it when I see it, although I don't suppose any of the technical jobs will require anyone to be on the premises.
It probably won't matter but Nige does seem to have dug himself a hole, if he'd gifted her the money then no issue, but that the source of the money is now a mystery is a potential problem. The obvious scenario is that it's come from generous donor(s) but gone to her so Nige isn't liable for additional stamp duty.
https://x.com/Reuters/status/1966484424394187179
Democrats:
Josh Shapiro,
Melissa Hortman and her husband,
John Hoffman and his wife
Republican:
Charlie Kirk
BREAKING: Charlie Kirk shooting suspect named as Tyler Robinson, according to Sky's US partner NBC News
The numbers literally don’t add up
Incidentally, it bursting might be rather good for the environment as well.
2. Nothing new - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/dec/11/asylum-seekers-to-be-housed-in-disused-care-homes-and-student-digs
But, disgusting and despicable as it is, an isolated incident probably isn’t enough to warrant that behaviour. Hopefully the offenders will be caught, and punished severely
Adam Boulton:
https://x.com/adamboultonTABB/status/1966258764383924711
@adamboultonTABB
Can’t believe all this media coverage of « Charlie » Kirk . It’s America’s issue not the UK’s.
Also Adam Boulton:
https://x.com/adamboultonTABB/status/1272243700719128582
@adamboultonTABB
8 Minutes & 45 Seconds: the killing of George Floyd. Narrated by
@idriselba
. Monday at 9pm across SKY.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-manchester-road-huddersfield/manchester-road-huddersfield-factsheet
Note the V3 and the date.
Iirc, students who were due to move into that accommodation were told the government had acquired at the beginning of the 2023 academic year and accomodation had to be re-arranged. (the site had had multiple issues as a private student residence from opening - cladding, rule breaking mixed occupancy including Airbnb and the solvency of the owners)
I'm not aware that use of this site has commenced.
But even if it is, there was an Internet bubble and resultant crash as well, after which the Internet continued. A massive bubble bursting does not mean that the underlying tech is never seen again, or proves massively useful. With things like railways (two bubbles) or the dot-com bubble, the tech continued even if lots of people lost their shirts and economies crashed.
The question is whether the AI bubble will be more like the Tulip mania...
Kirk is the regime's Horst Wessel and they will demand the death penalty. (Interestingly, Wessel's killer got a relatively short sentence for manslaughter, as both were armed and Wessel seems to have gone for his gun first, but the killer was later kidnapped from prison and extrajudicially executed by the Gestapo)
But he doesn't seem to have handed himself in. The story is he confessed to his father who detained him while the police arrived.
But seriously, yes, AI is a tulipesque craze
I see that this has precipitated another level in the social media witch-hunts.
But the internet and web commerce has still ended up to be kinda important, even though we had a dot-com bubble that burst.
The bubble was "I have a website now. Give me millions of dollars"
AI is following that model. The technology will be very useful in very specific applications.
The bubble is "I use ChatGPT. Give me millions of dollars"
The security services briefing seems to push back against the “useless vetting”
As ever, the denials and evasions are spreading the story and keeping it alive.
Not quite sure how I'd tell in some cicumstances.
I think that fear would trump the other.
I think it's really hard, if not impossible, to escape after committing this sort of crime these days.
There isn’t history of systematic abuse of Asian or black women from gangs of ordinary white men, the motivation being racial, on an industrial scale, that was covered up by the authorities to protect the white men from reprisals.
There has been historic systematic racism in the UK, and there are now loads of measures and laws to prevent it
It's hardly America's Finest.
Yes, there are loads of measures and laws to prevent racism. And it still occurs - including on here.
In the internet bubble a lot of companies spent eye-watering amounts of money on buried fibre-optic cable networks. Many (most?) went bust. One, famously, was global crossing, which was fiddling the books with the help of Arthur Andersen. Even now, few manage to make any money.
But do we need those cable networks? Absolutely, and without them huge swathes of our economy wouldn’t work. Us being on the FLAP-D ring (Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin) is a must-have for financial services and high frequency trading.
I expect AI will be similar. Those who build the data centres and run the LLMs may never make a penny of profit, but their investment will help the world become richer.
(Yes, I know the cable networks have pooters in hubs as well; but AIUI that's not where most of the expense went.)
The Far Far Right group who had the Groyper war with Kirk for not being Far Right enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
Heck it’s hard to find an AI firm that isn’t Nvidia or a consultancy that is cash flow positive on an operational level even if you ignore investments
Had there been decades of systematic white on non white sexual abuse, covered up by the authorities, the reaction @OnlyLivingBoy descrined would have been understandable. Even then it’s not really a parallel, because there aren’t hotels full of white, racist knuckleheads plonked in the middle of largely Asian neighbourhoods
Two law enforcement sources tell @CBSNews the supsect Tyler Robsinson’s father reported his son to clergy. Clergy took the tip to the U.S. Marshals Service.
President Trump announced this morning it was someone close to the supsect who turned him in.
Fujitsu then bought it for pennies on the dollar
Also, the Catholic church has a long and terrible history of abusing kids and others, and is at the heart of many of our communities. Yet I don't see this sort of action against them, despite the decades of official cover-ups.
The riots do not have much to do with keeping kids safe. It's racism, pure and simple. Which is why so many of the people involved in last year's unrest had *interesting* previous histories.
edit: and you could replace 'Catholic church' with the CofE as well. And I daresay other organisations. Which is the point: abuse has been, and is, much more common than many of us like to think.
The rest worse off.
And society at large even more of a moral cesspit?
This vomit inducing beatification of Kirk . Thank heavens we live in Europe .
Quelle surprise.
Trump won't approve
Clive Lewis the first to go over the top
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1966509429949378771
The irony was that Wessel, regardless of the Nazis turning him into a martyr, was actually killed by members of the KPD even if it was essentially a dumb tenancy dispute.
The proclivities of Charlie Kirk's murder yet tbc.
Building data centres will be good for your wealth, owning and running them to run your models, less so.
Hence Nvidia doing so well for instance.
I'm not making any predictions about so-called AI, but I'd now that there's a lot of misplaced certainty on both sides.
Trump's DOJ is an entirely politicised legal department, that had already months and months ago required their prosecutors to deceive Courts despite their professional ethics as lawyers and status as Officers of the Court.
In they Garcia case, they sacked the prosecutor who told the truth to the Judge.
In this case they have already been all over public media with commentary that prejudices the Court process.
Imagine this one at a UK political conference:
Renewing American Political Theology: The Task for Conservatism Today (Robert Deneen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0jokSD6FI
It's about imposed theology, but is interesting in demonstrating how the current Republicans etc decisively reject former - eg Reaganite Conservatism. They want something of a larger State to impose their views, and to bring the church into the State.
May be of interest to @HYUFD , @Foxy , @Stuartinromford and a few others.