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  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,321
    Andy_JS said:


    Julia Hartley-Brewer
    @JuliaHB1
    ·
    2h
    The new Green Party leader Zack Polanski always follows The Science - whether it's Net Zero or working as a hypnotherapist telling women they can THINK their boobs bigger. Politics has just got fun again.

    Why did he win with such a big majority, ie. with 85% of votes? Elections aren't usually that much of a walkover.
    Because in their stupidity the party allowed entryists to join during the ballot and distort the result.

    The outcome being the newly renamed Green Party of England and Wales (Marxist-Leninist).
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    "YouGov
    @YouGov
    Britons are more likely than other Western European nations to say train travel is "very expensive"

    UK: 58%
    Fra: 31%
    Den: 30%
    Ger: 28%
    Ita: 12%
    Spain: 10%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1962810405866094655
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,747
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have returned from Austria. To my newly painted living room. For the first time

    And I can report…

    IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRIUMPH!!

    Jeez I was nervous. Took a big risk. Went bold and dark. It is SUMPTUOUS

    The room feels about 8% smaller and about 800% more glamorous

    *dances in Hicks Blue*

    Lulu Lytle nails it again!
    This is possibly even better than the bedroom. It’s like the dark masculine handsome partner of the decadently feminine opium den bordello of a bedroom. This is the ego calling to my anima, down the hallway of memories

    Gone is the last of the IKEA. Gone is the dreary greige and the listless cream

    SWOONS
    I'm genuinely delighted for you.
    This could be Starmer's salvation.

    Free blue paint on the NHS, and the mood of the country transformed...
  • Trump seems live and well on TV
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,321


    Greens Organise
    @GreensOrganise


    Zack Polanski is the new leader of the Green Party of England & Wales.

    You wanted a radical, leftist Green Party….you’ve got one!

    And if you wanted a Green Party that focuses on the environment, try next door.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,256

    Trump seems live and well on TV

    Alive, yes. Well?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,139

    Trump seems live and well on TV

    Jim Henson animatronics.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,321
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Graham Linehan
    I was arrested for insulting the trans mob"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-was-arrested-for-insulting-the-trans-mob

    He got a Spectator article out of it so why's he complaining?
    Good work by the Govester there. The Spectator secured the biggest story of the day

    That’s why it is the greatest magazine - indeed possibly the greatest thing of any kind, including astral bodies - in the history of the cosmos
    Govey’s definitely got his finger on the edgy satire button.

    https://x.com/chiuauateardrop/status/1877009486885323168?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/sep/02/father-ted-creator-graham-linehan-arrested-over-posts-on-transgender-issues

    Polis statement:

    “The arrest was made by officers from the MPS aviation unit. It is routine for officers policing airports to carry firearms. These were not drawn or used at any point during the arrest.”
    So they didn’t actually try and shoot him. Just arrested him with five cops all with guns at the airport, for some jokey tweets
    Makes it alright then, doesn’t it !
    What did you expect the police to do with their guns? Stash them behind the counter at starbucks? As far as I am aware, all police in the airports are armed.
    Why did they treat him like a suspect terrorist? It’s insane

    All they had to do was email him. Or message him. Ask him to come to a station

    The fact he’s being arrested at all for jokey tweets is crazy, the fact they did it in this aggressive, menacing way is mind boggling. Presumably some police person made this fucking dim decision. I’m gonna guess she or he is in their 50s, wildly over promoted, drenched with Wokeness

    The police are gaining the contempt of the people, not their consent. It’s tragic
    Could this Linehan outrage be a tipping point that launches a movement like with George Floyd in America?

    Many similarities. Both of them suboptimal individuals, both of them treated clumsily by the police.

    People are angry. It just needs the right hashtag.
    #Downwiththissortofthing
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,814
    edited September 2
    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    edited September 2
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
  • Andy_JS said:


    Julia Hartley-Brewer
    @JuliaHB1
    ·
    2h
    The new Green Party leader Zack Polanski always follows The Science - whether it's Net Zero or working as a hypnotherapist telling women they can THINK their boobs bigger. Politics has just got fun again.

    Why did he win with such a big majority, ie. with 85% of votes? Elections aren't usually that much of a walkover.
    Because in their stupidity the party allowed entryists to join during the ballot and distort the result.

    The outcome being the newly renamed Green Party of England and Wales (Marxist-Leninist).
    Watermelons v. Sultanas :lol:
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,567
    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    Macron demanding action, lol. We pay his country to do nothing at all
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,747
    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,907

    Foxy said:

    Pretty bleak conclusion from Rentoul on the Green's decision today in his evening newsletter.

    Basically the party just voted to become a green version of the SWP.

    85% of members voting Polanski is an overwhelming mandate. Is there any other party leader with such backing?
    Turnout rather dents it. The other parties get their membership interested, barely a third of Greens bothered.
    But in raw % its impressive. Or, Ramsey and Chowns are utter gash. Or both.
    The turnout is really poor.

    You get better turnout on a freezing rain windswept November Thursday for a council election in North Nowheres Whippet Town.

    Odd.

    Be really really interesting to see vote pattern based on when joined the party.
    Possibly a large proportion of the membership is lapsed. If so, that would be another point in common with the SWP.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,567
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    No permission to be outside your roaming area. 6 months in chokey
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,139
    edited September 2
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Might have been more impressive if they'd moved it from Colorado to the Moon.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    "Epping Council loses permission to appeal ruling over asylum seekers at Bell Hotel"

    https://news.sky.com/story/epping-council-loses-permission-to-appeal-ruling-over-asylum-seekers-at-bell-hotel-13423752
  • Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    No permission to be outside your roaming area. 6 months in chokey
    Didn't we want control of borders?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,567

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    No permission to be outside your roaming area. 6 months in chokey
    Didn't we want control of borders?
    Not at the expense of other freedoms, no.
    I wouldnt want mandatory life sentences for all crime but I would like crime dealt with
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,747

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Might have been more impressive if they'd moved it from Colorado to the Moon.
    We hold these... to be self evident.

    Trump: "I also did a number of truths. Long truths, and I think pretty poignant truths. No, I was very active over the weekend."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1962955481296646577
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Is this just to benefit a red state at the expense of a blue one?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,747
    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Is this just to benefit a red state at the expense of a blue one?
    Can you think of another reason ?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,058

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Graham Linehan
    I was arrested for insulting the trans mob"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-was-arrested-for-insulting-the-trans-mob

    He got a Spectator article out of it so why's he complaining?
    Good work by the Govester there. The Spectator secured the biggest story of the day

    That’s why it is the greatest magazine - indeed possibly the greatest thing of any kind, including astral bodies - in the history of the cosmos
    Govey’s definitely got his finger on the edgy satire button.

    https://x.com/chiuauateardrop/status/1877009486885323168?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/sep/02/father-ted-creator-graham-linehan-arrested-over-posts-on-transgender-issues

    Polis statement:

    “The arrest was made by officers from the MPS aviation unit. It is routine for officers policing airports to carry firearms. These were not drawn or used at any point during the arrest.”
    So they didn’t actually try and shoot him. Just arrested him with five cops all with guns at the airport, for some jokey tweets
    Makes it alright then, doesn’t it !
    What did you expect the police to do with their guns? Stash them behind the counter at starbucks? As far as I am aware, all police in the airports are armed.
    Well for a start wonder why they were arresting him in the first place. Then work out how many officers would be needed.* Then do something useful with their time.

    *I can’t see a need for more than one, can anyone?
    I presume two is normal for a planned arrest, to provide corrobarative evidence.

    Policing an airport is boring, they probably got a lot of volunteers.There is fuck all to do 99% of the time.

    Airport police are routinely armed. Have you ever been to Stansted? Essex Constabulary seem to particularly like swanning around with H&Ks. I imagine the Met are little different.

    So I imagine what happened was routine for a suspected criminal arriving at an airport.

    Do we know what the tweets were? The Guardian hasn't repeated them, so they obviously feel they were a bit dodgy. In any case, surely it is for a jury to decide whether they were a joke, or an incitement to violence
    I posted the offending text of one up thread/previous thread. Not been arrested yet.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,747

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    No permission to be outside your roaming area. 6 months in chokey
    Oh god, we're not going to be subject to that 15min cities nonsense again ?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,823
    He wants teachers to carry guns
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,567
    edited September 2
    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    No permission to be outside your roaming area. 6 months in chokey
    Oh god, we're not going to be subject to that 15min cities nonsense again ?
    I imagine not
    Hopefully we will be spared the nothing to hide nothing to fear idiots too
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Is this just to benefit a red state at the expense of a blue one?
    Can you think of another reason ?
    Nothing springs to mind, no.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,907
    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have returned from Austria. To my newly painted living room. For the first time

    And I can report…

    IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRIUMPH!!

    Jeez I was nervous. Took a big risk. Went bold and dark. It is SUMPTUOUS

    The room feels about 8% smaller and about 800% more glamorous

    *dances in Hicks Blue*

    Lulu Lytle nails it again!
    This is possibly even better than the bedroom. It’s like the dark masculine handsome partner of the decadently feminine opium den bordello of a bedroom. This is the ego calling to my anima, down the hallway of memories

    Gone is the last of the IKEA. Gone is the dreary greige and the listless cream

    SWOONS
    I'm genuinely delighted for you.
    This could be Starmer's salvation.

    Free blue paint on the NHS, and the mood of the country transformed...
    Is it Conservative blue or Reform blue?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,814
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have returned from Austria. To my newly painted living room. For the first time

    And I can report…

    IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRIUMPH!!

    Jeez I was nervous. Took a big risk. Went bold and dark. It is SUMPTUOUS

    The room feels about 8% smaller and about 800% more glamorous

    *dances in Hicks Blue*

    Lulu Lytle nails it again!
    This is possibly even better than the bedroom. It’s like the dark masculine handsome partner of the decadently feminine opium den bordello of a bedroom. This is the ego calling to my anima, down the hallway of memories

    Gone is the last of the IKEA. Gone is the dreary greige and the listless cream

    SWOONS
    I'm genuinely delighted for you.
    That’s very kind

    I was genuinely worried about this. Thought I’d gone a step too far. Then @LostPassword told me it would make the room shrink and I got even more anxious

    It’s lush. It’s also amazing what simple paint and colour can do to space, mood, mind

    In a very very tiny modest way I was inspired to take a risk by this guy who is a genius. I understand he owns property in penarth

    “Building our dream home cost us £2.2m … and our marriage”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/building-our-forever-home-ended-our-marriage-but-we-have-no-regrets-63bpw65x5

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Might have been more impressive if they'd moved it from Colorado to the Moon.
    We hold these... to be self evident.

    Trump: "I also did a number of truths. Long truths, and I think pretty poignant truths. No, I was very active over the weekend."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1962955481296646577
    The language is an important part of the brutalisation imo.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,615
    People suggesting that the UK has a freedom of speech issue have a point. Grabbing someone at the airport with 5 armed officers for mean tweets is literally ridiculous. That this was even entertained as a plan is ridiculous. The next government needs to repeal all of the idiotic legislation around restricting speech.

    The Tories are a joke to have let things get so bad, Labour will make things worse. It's time for a first amendment law that overrides all others, we need this now more than ever.

    This country is becoming a laughing stock over this and the completely ridiculous illegal immigration issue and the government placing the rights of illegals over the rights of citizens.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825

    Andy_JS said:


    Julia Hartley-Brewer
    @JuliaHB1
    ·
    2h
    The new Green Party leader Zack Polanski always follows The Science - whether it's Net Zero or working as a hypnotherapist telling women they can THINK their boobs bigger. Politics has just got fun again.

    Why did he win with such a big majority, ie. with 85% of votes? Elections aren't usually that much of a walkover.
    Because in their stupidity the party allowed entryists to join during the ballot and distort the result.

    The outcome being the newly renamed Green Party of England and Wales (Marxist-Leninist).
    I don't think that true. The alternative slate could only get 15% of a 37% turnout to vote for them, around 6% of the membership.

    Polanski had a long list of existing councillors etc endorsing him, so clearly has a lot of support from existing party members.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825
    The report on an amazing journey "The Tri'sle of Wight". The triple circumnavigation of the Isle of Wight.

    https://swimmingthechannel2013.blogspot.com/2025/08/the-trisle-of-wight-23rd-26th-august.html?m=1
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,287
    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Might have been more impressive if they'd moved it from Colorado to the Moon.
    We hold these... to be self evident.

    Trump: "I also did a number of truths. Long truths, and I think pretty poignant truths. No, I was very active over the weekend."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1962955481296646577
    The language is an important part of the brutalisation imo.
    I am substituting 'truths' for 'poos'. And it's not improved the imagery.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,209
    Leon said:

    I have returned from Austria. To my newly painted living room. For the first time

    And I can report…

    IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRIUMPH!!

    Jeez I was nervous. Took a big risk. Went bold and dark. It is SUMPTUOUS

    The room feels about 8% smaller and about 800% more glamorous

    *dances in Hicks Blue*

    Orgone blue perhaps

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,058
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,964

    The Linehan case is just perfect for Farage who is speaking this week iirc to Congress about free speech in the UK.

    Or he could, you know, speak to the House of Commons about it, what with that being his job.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,287
    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    Going to create a whole new innovation wave around fake digital ID cards. Well done, Prime Minister!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    In a remarkable experiment that shows it's not just dogs, an intelligent and highly travelled Camden man turns into a slobbering dog at the sight of a Daily Mail headline. More on page six.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,058

    The Linehan case is just perfect for Farage who is speaking this week iirc to Congress about free speech in the UK.

    Or he could, you know, speak to the House of Commons about it, what with that being his job.
    He could, yes. When, though? Does he get a question at PMQs? Otherwise it’s not that easy for an MP, one of 600 odd others, to speak about an event like this.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,256
    ohnotnow said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    Going to create a whole new innovation wave around fake digital ID cards. Well done, Prime Minister!
    And another thing you really really don't want to be nicked.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Graham Linehan
    I was arrested for insulting the trans mob"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-was-arrested-for-insulting-the-trans-mob

    He got a Spectator article out of it so why's he complaining?
    Good work by the Govester there. The Spectator secured the biggest story of the day

    That’s why it is the greatest magazine - indeed possibly the greatest thing of any kind, including astral bodies - in the history of the cosmos
    Govey’s definitely got his finger on the edgy satire button.

    https://x.com/chiuauateardrop/status/1877009486885323168?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/sep/02/father-ted-creator-graham-linehan-arrested-over-posts-on-transgender-issues

    Polis statement:

    “The arrest was made by officers from the MPS aviation unit. It is routine for officers policing airports to carry firearms. These were not drawn or used at any point during the arrest.”
    So they didn’t actually try and shoot him. Just arrested him with five cops all with guns at the airport, for some jokey tweets
    Makes it alright then, doesn’t it !
    What did you expect the police to do with their guns? Stash them behind the counter at starbucks? As far as I am aware, all police in the airports are armed.
    Why did they treat him like a suspect terrorist? It’s insane

    All they had to do was email him. Or message him. Ask him to come to a station

    The fact he’s being arrested at all for jokey tweets is crazy, the fact they did it in this aggressive, menacing way is mind boggling. Presumably some police person made this fucking dim decision. I’m gonna guess she or he is in their 50s, wildly over promoted, drenched with Wokeness

    The police are gaining the contempt of the people, not their consent. It’s tragic
    Could this Linehan outrage be a tipping point that launches a movement like with George Floyd in America?

    Many similarities. Both of them suboptimal individuals, both of them treated clumsily by the police.

    People are angry. It just needs the right hashtag.
    #Downwiththissortofthing
    #policesowoke
    Or
    #transphobeslivesmatter

    Depending on pov.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,814
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    In a remarkable experiment that shows it's not just dogs, an intelligent and highly travelled Camden man turns into a slobbering dog at the sight of a Daily Mail headline. More on page six.
    It's not the Daily Mail, it's Starmer

    I freely confess I am somewhat unhinged about him. As you were about Boris

    I thought my loathing of Gareth Southgate was impressive but my utter abhorrence for Starmer is in a different league. Every thing he does, says, thinks, IS, makes me want to REDACTED, and the intensity of this only intensifies

    I said before: it gives me an insight into how some people felt about Thatcher, I could never get my head around those wild emotions she evoked. Now I totally understand
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825
    MaxPB said:

    People suggesting that the UK has a freedom of speech issue have a point. Grabbing someone at the airport with 5 armed officers for mean tweets is literally ridiculous. That this was even entertained as a plan is ridiculous. The next government needs to repeal all of the idiotic legislation around restricting speech.

    The Tories are a joke to have let things get so bad, Labour will make things worse. It's time for a first amendment law that overrides all others, we need this now more than ever.

    This country is becoming a laughing stock over this and the completely ridiculous illegal immigration issue and the government placing the rights of illegals over the rights of citizens.

    It's nonsense to arrest for such a thing.

    Linehan has transitioned from Father Dougal to Father Jack over the decades. When did he last write something funny?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,495

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    In which case, you would think the police would actually be able to catch some criminals committing crimes other than upsetting someone on X.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    In a remarkable experiment that shows it's not just dogs, an intelligent and highly travelled Camden man turns into a slobbering dog at the sight of a Daily Mail headline. More on page six.
    It's not the Daily Mail, it's Starmer

    I freely confess I am somewhat unhinged about him. As you were about Boris

    I thought my loathing of Gareth Southgate was impressive but my utter abhorrence for Starmer is in a different league. Every thing he does, says, thinks, IS, makes me want to REDACTED, and the intensity of this only intensifies

    I said before: it gives me an insight into how some people felt about Thatcher, I could never get my head around those wild emotions she evoked. Now I totally understand
    I think Angela Rayner would be a genuine improvement on Starmer.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,058

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    In which case, you would think the police would actually be able to catch some criminals committing crimes other than upsetting someone on X.
    Well quite.

    But also how they operate when serious crimes happen. We had some arson at the weekend. An old bus, used as a cafe but empty, was set ablaze. It’s very rural (was a campsite) but even so there are likely three or four CCTVs recording the area. We all hope they get the scrotes.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,964

    The Linehan case is just perfect for Farage who is speaking this week iirc to Congress about free speech in the UK.

    Or he could, you know, speak to the House of Commons about it, what with that being his job.
    He could, yes. When, though? Does he get a question at PMQs? Otherwise it’s not that easy for an MP, one of 600 odd others, to speak about an event like this.
    He can do an Early Day Motion and get fellow MPs to sign it. Any MP can do that. It's the usual way of bringing attention to an issue.

    He can put in a written question to the relevant minister. That should be answered in 7 days.

    He can apply for an adjournment debate or a Westminster Hall debate. Some of those are chosen by the Speaker, so he could make a case that this is a matter of national interest and importance. Others are by ballot.

    He can make an urgent question. Again, chosen by the Speaker, but he can make the case that this is a pressing topic.

    He does not automatically get a question at PMQs, but 15 MPs are drawn at random who do. He and the other Reform UK MPs can apply to that. (There are 650 MPs, but Sinn Fein don't sit, the Speaker and Deputy Speakers don't ask questions, and the PM doesn't ask questions of himself, so the denominator is effectively 640. That means you get a 2% chance each week. If you enter the ballot each PMQ, an MP has about a 56% chance of getting a question per year.)

    He's the leader of a party and angling to be the next PM. He'll know about all these options and more. If he wants to have impact in Parliament, he can.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    In a remarkable experiment that shows it's not just dogs, an intelligent and highly travelled Camden man turns into a slobbering dog at the sight of a Daily Mail headline. More on page six.
    It's not the Daily Mail, it's Starmer

    I freely confess I am somewhat unhinged about him. As you were about Boris

    I thought my loathing of Gareth Southgate was impressive but my utter abhorrence for Starmer is in a different league. Every thing he does, says, thinks, IS, makes me want to REDACTED, and the intensity of this only intensifies

    I said before: it gives me an insight into how some people felt about Thatcher, I could never get my head around those wild emotions she evoked. Now I totally understand
    And that's exactly why I feel for you. I hated (yes, the right word) Boris Johnson being PM and I can still recall the misery of it, how long those 3 years seemed. But on a brighter note I also recall the ecstasy of his demise. You possibly have that to look forward to in 2029 when you're 67.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,964
    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    People suggesting that the UK has a freedom of speech issue have a point. Grabbing someone at the airport with 5 armed officers for mean tweets is literally ridiculous. That this was even entertained as a plan is ridiculous. The next government needs to repeal all of the idiotic legislation around restricting speech.

    The Tories are a joke to have let things get so bad, Labour will make things worse. It's time for a first amendment law that overrides all others, we need this now more than ever.

    This country is becoming a laughing stock over this and the completely ridiculous illegal immigration issue and the government placing the rights of illegals over the rights of citizens.

    It's nonsense to arrest for such a thing.

    Linehan has transitioned from Father Dougal to Father Jack over the decades. When did he last write something funny?
    2016 (the "Motherland" pilot). Maybe 2017.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 64,814
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    In a remarkable experiment that shows it's not just dogs, an intelligent and highly travelled Camden man turns into a slobbering dog at the sight of a Daily Mail headline. More on page six.
    It's not the Daily Mail, it's Starmer

    I freely confess I am somewhat unhinged about him. As you were about Boris

    I thought my loathing of Gareth Southgate was impressive but my utter abhorrence for Starmer is in a different league. Every thing he does, says, thinks, IS, makes me want to REDACTED, and the intensity of this only intensifies

    I said before: it gives me an insight into how some people felt about Thatcher, I could never get my head around those wild emotions she evoked. Now I totally understand
    And that's exactly why I feel for you. I hated (yes, the right word) Boris Johnson being PM and I can still recall the misery of it, how long those 3 years seemed. But on a brighter note I also recall the ecstasy of his demise. You possibly have that to look forward to in 2029 when you're 67.
    A melancholy thought. Thank God I have my handsome blue room to console me

    On a slightly brighter note, Starmer is so clearly shit at this job - and never going to get better - I am pretty certain he will quit before 2029. He will sack Reeves, it won't work, then the spotlight will be on him, and I reckon he'll bail
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,985
    Bell is certainly highly intelligent but his pushing ever higher taxes at the Treasury on landlords, shareholders and property owners will hardly give an attractive proposition to swing voters and he would be a risk as a future Chancellor
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,268
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    And the problem is the definition of what constitutes a crime is expanding at a rapid rate.

    You will, probably, be untouched by it all but poke your nose outside NW3, perhaps take a trip home, and you will find this is a real issue.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,964
    More bad news for The Police: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjyjn9j74go
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825

    The Linehan case is just perfect for Farage who is speaking this week iirc to Congress about free speech in the UK.

    Or he could, you know, speak to the House of Commons about it, what with that being his job.
    He could, yes. When, though? Does he get a question at PMQs? Otherwise it’s not that easy for an MP, one of 600 odd others, to speak about an event like this.
    He can do an Early Day Motion and get fellow MPs to sign it. Any MP can do that. It's the usual way of bringing attention to an issue.

    He can put in a written question to the relevant minister. That should be answered in 7 days.

    He can apply for an adjournment debate or a Westminster Hall debate. Some of those are chosen by the Speaker, so he could make a case that this is a matter of national interest and importance. Others are by ballot.

    He can make an urgent question. Again, chosen by the Speaker, but he can make the case that this is a pressing topic.

    He does not automatically get a question at PMQs, but 15 MPs are drawn at random who do. He and the other Reform UK MPs can apply to that. (There are 650 MPs, but Sinn Fein don't sit, the Speaker and Deputy Speakers don't ask questions, and the PM doesn't ask questions of himself, so the denominator is effectively 640. That means you get a 2% chance each week. If you enter the ballot each PMQ, an MP has about a 56% chance of getting a question per year.)

    He's the leader of a party and angling to be the next PM. He'll know about all these options and more. If he wants to have impact in Parliament, he can.
    Farage isn't interested in Parliament. He intends to rule in the Trump style by executive orders.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,162
    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    Perhaps he sees @Leon as Father Jack and is identifying with Ted?

    I have to say he looks more like Dougal...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,287
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    In which case, you would think the police would actually be able to catch some criminals committing crimes other than upsetting someone on X.
    Did a senior policeperson not stop and think "Wait, the police have an issue with perceived bias and over-reaction at the moment, should we really arrest this 57 year old Irish comedian, for three possibly transphobic tweets? Yes, we should!!"

    Then they must have had a chat about how to do it, to improve the image of the police, in a country where the polling says the public has calamitously lost trust in them

    "Shall we quietly send around a constable? Ask him to come to the station? What's the most politic and delicate way to handle this? So we don't alienate still more citizens?"

    "I know, let's send a squad of three, no four - yes four armed police to arrest him as soon as he gets home from America, like he's a jihadi but worse."

    "That's brilliant but I've got an even better idea, let's send FIVE - five armed police! - and let's do it literally at the airport as he lands so it looks like we are insane and have lost all sense of proportion and we have no clue about catching actual criminals, because we think bad tweets are worse than rape?!"

    "This is genius, Sir. Soon the public will love us once again."
    You have a much, much higher estimation of the police than I do if you think someone would have stopped to think "Is this a bad decision?", or even to have had that thought enter their minds.

    I rewatched 'Secret Society' the other year just to remind myself that things have been terrible forever. But the episode about the powers and abuse of the Chief Constables still gets me.

    https://trakt.tv/shows/secret-society/seasons/1/episodes/4

    https://youtu.be/NuOrKO3_doI?si=DCVeepFPDBfU7_Tr&t=112
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825
    edited September 2
    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    That isn't an accurate description in the headline. Starmer simply issued an anodyne statement.


  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,964
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    That isn't an accurate description in the headline. Starmer simply issued an anodyne statement.


    Well, I guess the question is whether this comes under "anti-social behaviour".
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    That isn't an accurate description in the headline. Starmer simply issued an anodyne statement.


    Well, I guess the question is whether this comes under "anti-social behaviour".
    And violence against women...
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,296
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    Perhaps he sees @Leon as Father Jack and is identifying with Ted?

    I have to say he looks more like Dougal...
    That's interesting:

    [...][ a 57-year-old man had been arrested at Heathrow airport on suspicion of a breach of Part 3A of the Public Order Act 1986.

    The offence covers the use of words, behaviour or display of written material that is intended to stir up religious or sexual hatred.

    In 2010, Part 3A of the Act was amended to create offences of “intentionally stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation [...]


    Can't Sir Keir stand up and announce he's going to repeal this 'hated Tory law'?
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,821
    HYUFD said:

    Bell is certainly highly intelligent but his pushing ever higher taxes at the Treasury on landlords, shareholders and property owners will hardly give an attractive proposition to swing voters and he would be a risk as a future Chancellor

    On the other hand it would be an interesting experiment to see if Labour really CAN poll in the single digits ...

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,966
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    That isn't an accurate description in the headline. Starmer simply issued an anodyne statement.


    What a pile of blatantly misleading shite the Tele is.
  • ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 56,667
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    Imagine the comic LinkAllTheData requirement. The one they issued contracts for, last time.

    Imagine the comic NoAccesSegmentation requirement. You know, from last time. The requirement that was part of the contracts issued.

    Last time, it was pointed out that people working for councils could access your medical history, under the non-existent access controls that were a deliberate part of the system.

    Guess who control lots of councils now?

    And there is no doubt that the card system will incorporate elaborate data on ethnicity, immigration status, sexuality etc.

    Look at the behaviour of ICE in America. The biggest thing that slows them down is finding their targets.

    A national database of where Muslims live? Who would abuse that?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,722

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Might have been more impressive if they'd moved it from Colorado to the Moon.
    Honestly it’s far more logical to have Space Command in Huntsville, AL (the counterpart of Cape Canaveral) than in Colorado (where NORAD is located)
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,907
    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    Be interesting to learn what the next interpretation of 'serious crime' will be.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,722
    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Is this just to benefit a red state at the expense of a blue one?
    Can you think of another reason ?
    Huntsville Alabama is one of the global centres of the space industry?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,331

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    That isn't an accurate description in the headline. Starmer simply issued an anodyne statement.


    What a pile of blatantly misleading shite the Tele is.
    Indeed, although the inaccurate headline seems designed to make their audience look more positively upon Starmer, standing up for free speech against woke police, which doesn't seem like it would be their intended goal.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124
    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    What's going on now - as ever - is the Telegraph fabricating a story rather than reporting on one.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,090
    edited September 2
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    Big tech automatically tracks you by default, not just online, but physically e.g. Google Maps / Waze makes massive revenue for Google. The technology is all there. If it wasn't for some EU laws, we would be like Asia where you walk into a shop, you browse items, big tech can tell what you spent time looking at, you leave without purchasing, they auction off adverts to spam you with deals for that item or similar, all without you ever disclosing your phone number to them or even them buying it.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,552

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Foxy said:

    MaxPB said:

    People suggesting that the UK has a freedom of speech issue have a point. Grabbing someone at the airport with 5 armed officers for mean tweets is literally ridiculous. That this was even entertained as a plan is ridiculous. The next government needs to repeal all of the idiotic legislation around restricting speech.

    The Tories are a joke to have let things get so bad, Labour will make things worse. It's time for a first amendment law that overrides all others, we need this now more than ever.

    This country is becoming a laughing stock over this and the completely ridiculous illegal immigration issue and the government placing the rights of illegals over the rights of citizens.

    It's nonsense to arrest for such a thing.

    Linehan has transitioned from Father Dougal to Father Jack over the decades. When did he last write something funny?
    Not much time to do so when you have monomania.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,331

    The Linehan case is just perfect for Farage who is speaking this week iirc to Congress about free speech in the UK.

    Or he could, you know, speak to the House of Commons about it, what with that being his job.
    He could, yes. When, though? Does he get a question at PMQs? Otherwise it’s not that easy for an MP, one of 600 odd others, to speak about an event like this.
    He can do an Early Day Motion and get fellow MPs to sign it. Any MP can do that. It's the usual way of bringing attention to an issue.

    He can put in a written question to the relevant minister. That should be answered in 7 days.

    He can apply for an adjournment debate or a Westminster Hall debate. Some of those are chosen by the Speaker, so he could make a case that this is a matter of national interest and importance. Others are by ballot.

    He can make an urgent question. Again, chosen by the Speaker, but he can make the case that this is a pressing topic.

    He does not automatically get a question at PMQs, but 15 MPs are drawn at random who do. He and the other Reform UK MPs can apply to that. (There are 650 MPs, but Sinn Fein don't sit, the Speaker and Deputy Speakers don't ask questions, and the PM doesn't ask questions of himself, so the denominator is effectively 640. That means you get a 2% chance each week. If you enter the ballot each PMQ, an MP has about a 56% chance of getting a question per year.)

    He's the leader of a party and angling to be the next PM. He'll know about all these options and more. If he wants to have impact in Parliament, he can.
    Probably not as effective politically at present as non-parliamentary stuff, though eventually it will presumably come to be seen as useful. Really they should do both.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,650
    Reform are already showing us what their government would be like in 2029.



    Peter Bearne
    @pbearneITV

    I've been speaking to @nat_fahy, the editor of @nottslive about the ban by Cllr Mick Barton the
    @reformparty_uk leader at @nottscc stopping his councillors speaking to her journalists

    @ITVCentral

    https://x.com/pbearneITV/status/1962837112916512906
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,552

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,650

    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    If true, this is just stupid.

    Trump is set to announce that he is moving U.S. Space Command from Colorado to Alabama at the White House on Tuesday,
    @connorobrienNH, @paulmcleary, and me.

    The news was pre-empted by the Pentagon posting a “U.S. Space Command HQ Announcement” on DVIDS.

    https://x.com/JackDetsch/status/1962893248042500486

    A very expensive indeed nothingburger.

    Called it.

    The most striking thing about the whole display was Vance's smarmy, wince inducing expressions in the background.
    Is this just to benefit a red state at the expense of a blue one?
    Can you think of another reason ?
    Huntsville Alabama is one of the global centres of the space industry?
    Vance was certainly looking weird in the background. Rictus grin.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,184
    edited September 2

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    Perhaps he sees @Leon as Father Jack and is identifying with Ted?

    I have to say he looks more like Dougal...
    That's interesting:

    [...][ a 57-year-old man had been arrested at Heathrow airport on suspicion of a breach of Part 3A of the Public Order Act 1986.

    The offence covers the use of words, behaviour or display of written material that is intended to stir up religious or sexual hatred.

    In 2010, Part 3A of the Act was amended to create offences of “intentionally stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation [...]


    Can't Sir Keir stand up and announce he's going to repeal this 'hated Tory law'?
    Tory-LD coalition, tbf. But isn't that from a bill of 2008, also tbf?

    (Sure, the Tories could have cancelled it ...).
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,821
    MaxPB said:

    The Tories are a joke to have let things get so bad, Labour will make things worse.

    That's this country's politics for the last decade summed up in one sentence I'm afraid.

  • TazTaz Posts: 20,820

    Reform are already showing us what their government would be like in 2029.



    Peter Bearne
    @pbearneITV

    I've been speaking to @nat_fahy, the editor of @nottslive about the ban by Cllr Mick Barton the
    @reformparty_uk leader at @nottscc stopping his councillors speaking to her journalists

    @ITVCentral

    https://x.com/pbearneITV/status/1962837112916512906

    Never been heard of before.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/lorraine-kelly-slams-boris-johnson-25143914
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,258
    Bad luck Grimsby. Bradford score right at the end of the match.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cj4wj7wz405t
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    Big tech automatically tracks you by default, not just online, but physically e.g. Google Maps / Waze makes massive revenue for Google. The technology is all there. If it wasn't for some EU laws, we would be like Asia where you walk into a shop, you browse items, big tech can tell what you spent time looking at, you leave without purchasing, they auction off adverts to spam you with deals for that item or similar, all without you ever disclosing your phone number to them or even them buying it.
    I'm all for government reining in Big Tech. The issue of our times, I'd say.
  • dixiedean said:

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
    Probably to get past the AI sifting. But I imagine trying to get a copywriting role if that is your exclusive expertise is like pushing water uphill.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,331
    dixiedean said:

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
    Had AI craft and send them out en-masse?
  • kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    Big tech automatically tracks you by default, not just online, but physically e.g. Google Maps / Waze makes massive revenue for Google. The technology is all there. If it wasn't for some EU laws, we would be like Asia where you walk into a shop, you browse items, big tech can tell what you spent time looking at, you leave without purchasing, they auction off adverts to spam you with deals for that item or similar, all without you ever disclosing your phone number to them or even them buying it.
    I'm all for government reining in Big Tech. The issue of our times, I'd say.
    You think if they go all digital ID cards they won't want to form a massive database of all that info and leverage this kind of tech? There is absolutely no reason to have ID cards for ID alone.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,495
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    In which case, you would think the police would actually be able to catch some criminals committing crimes other than upsetting someone on X.
    Did a senior policeperson not stop and think "Wait, the police have an issue with perceived bias and over-reaction at the moment, should we really arrest this 57 year old Irish comedian, for three possibly transphobic tweets? Yes, we should!!"

    Then they must have had a chat about how to do it, to improve the image of the police, in a country where the polling says the public has calamitously lost trust in them

    "Shall we quietly send around a constable? Ask him to come to the station? What's the most politic and delicate way to handle this? So we don't alienate still more citizens?"

    "I know, let's send a squad of three, no four - yes four armed police to arrest him as soon as he gets home from America, like he's a jihadi but worse."

    "That's brilliant but I've got an even better idea, let's send FIVE - five armed police! - and let's do it literally at the airport as he lands so it looks like we are insane and have lost all sense of proportion and we have no clue about catching actual criminals, because we think bad tweets are worse than rape?!"

    "This is genius, Sir. Soon the public will love us once again."
    Superintendent Savage overruled by Chief Constable Woke.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,650

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar
    ·
    18m
    Pritzker: "We've gathered information from unauthorized, patriotic officials inside the government and from-sourced reporters about Donald Trump's plan, which is to deploy armed military personnel to the streets of Chicago."

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1962971160607383615
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,552
    edited September 2

    dixiedean said:

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
    Probably to get past the AI sifting. But I imagine trying to get a copywriting role if that is your exclusive expertise is like pushing water uphill.

    dixiedean said:

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
    Probably to get past the AI sifting. But I imagine trying to get a copywriting role if that is your exclusive expertise is like pushing water uphill.
    I wonder if his previous day rate of £350 for writing words played any part in the strange empathy and platform afforded to what would usually be dismissed as a benefit scrounger?
    A sub editor sees his future.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,090
    edited September 2
    kle4 said:

    dixiedean said:

    ‘I’ve applied for more than 5,000 jobs – it’s brutal out there’

    When lay-offs hit my role as a senior copywriter at Virgin Media O2 in August 2023, I knew the job hunt wouldn’t be easy. But two years, a drained bank account and a psychiatric unit later, I never imagined it would be this brutal.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jobs/career-advice/applied-over-5000-jobs-brutal-market/

    Not to go all Leon, but AI....

    5000 jobs in two years is seven a day.
    He really needs to think about tailoring his applications.
    Had AI craft and send them out en-masse?
    Talking to people on both side in tech, its AI being used to write this stuff, AI to sift it, leading to a rise in applications, leading to harder to get past the initial sift, leading to a rise in applications because so easy to do so, leading to harder to get past the initial sift....

    Very difficult for employer to detect the signal through the noise and hard for employees who don't fit the cookie cutter of what is being filtered for to be seen through all the noise.

    This guy is an older guy who has been a copywriter. I bet loads of companies a) filter for younger people, hoping more AI literate and b) far less roles for only copywriters.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,495
    edited September 2
    AnneJGP said:

    Andy_JS said:

    What's going on now?

    "Starmer attacks Met after Father Ted creator arrested over trans posts
    PM tells police to concentrate on serious crime as Graham Linehan is detained over gender-critical tweets"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/02/graham-linehan-claims-he-was-arrested-for-tweets-heathrow

    Be interesting to learn what the next interpretation of 'serious crime' will be.
    Upsetting snowflakes with intent to use common sense.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,825

    Reform are already showing us what their government would be like in 2029.



    Peter Bearne
    @pbearneITV

    I've been speaking to @nat_fahy, the editor of @nottslive about the ban by Cllr Mick Barton the
    @reformparty_uk leader at @nottscc stopping his councillors speaking to her journalists

    @ITVCentral

    https://x.com/pbearneITV/status/1962837112916512906

    Free Speech, What's that? asks Reform...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,552
    He's a bit miffed about being turned down for a cleaning job in favour of those who have cleaning experience.
    Mmm. Who to clean my house?
    A cleaner or an ex-copywriter?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,124

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    Yes. Nobody tracks you but it's quite hard to disappear if you're wanted for a crime. That's about the size of it.
    Imagine the comic LinkAllTheData requirement. The one they issued contracts for, last time.

    Imagine the comic NoAccesSegmentation requirement. You know, from last time. The requirement that was part of the contracts issued.

    Last time, it was pointed out that people working for councils could access your medical history, under the non-existent access controls that were a deliberate part of the system.

    Guess who control lots of councils now?

    And there is no doubt that the card system will incorporate elaborate data on ethnicity, immigration status, sexuality etc.

    Look at the behaviour of ICE in America. The biggest thing that slows them down is finding their targets.

    A national database of where Muslims live? Who would abuse that?
    Good points but I don't want to tilt at 2005 windmills. Let's see the 2025 proposals if they're coming. There's benefits, there's risks.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 56,667

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Starmer pushes digital ID cards for all after Macron demands action to tackle scourge of illegal working in Britain"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15058275/Starmer-pushes-digital-ID-cards-Macron-demands-action-tackle-scourge-illegal-working-Britain.html

    So now he overturns our liberties after receiving orders from the president of France

    Every day he manages to make me hate him just that little bit more
    Dystopian Britain. The government tracks your every move.
    It doesn't, though, does it. Turn your phone off, nobody knows where you are.
    I wouldn’t be so sure. Go for a drive and there are number plate cameras everywhere. Use your credit or debit card and you are logged. It’s harder than you might imagine to completely disappear. How many ring doorbells do you pass? CCTV installations?

    Now 99.99% of the time no one is following you. But if little kinabalu should become a suspect in a crime, well there would be the ability to track you.
    In which case, you would think the police would actually be able to catch some criminals committing crimes other than upsetting someone on X.
    Did a senior policeperson not stop and think "Wait, the police have an issue with perceived bias and over-reaction at the moment, should we really arrest this 57 year old Irish comedian, for three possibly transphobic tweets? Yes, we should!!"

    Then they must have had a chat about how to do it, to improve the image of the police, in a country where the polling says the public has calamitously lost trust in them

    "Shall we quietly send around a constable? Ask him to come to the station? What's the most politic and delicate way to handle this? So we don't alienate still more citizens?"

    "I know, let's send a squad of three, no four - yes four armed police to arrest him as soon as he gets home from America, like he's a jihadi but worse."

    "That's brilliant but I've got an even better idea, let's send FIVE - five armed police! - and let's do it literally at the airport as he lands so it looks like we are insane and have lost all sense of proportion and we have no clue about catching actual criminals, because we think bad tweets are worse than rape?!"

    "This is genius, Sir. Soon the public will love us once again."
    Superintendent Savage overruled by Chief Constable Woke.
    Wrong.

    Savage *is* the Chief Constable. He has a whole bookshelf (custom made, taxpayers expense) of abstract glass objects that are awards for his work in anti-racism, anti-sexism etc.

    He is especially proud of Operation Darkie - where undercover police arrest people for ordering their coffee “Black”. Black people, that is, at black rights demos.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,839
    AnneJGP said:

    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have returned from Austria. To my newly painted living room. For the first time

    And I can report…

    IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRIUMPH!!

    Jeez I was nervous. Took a big risk. Went bold and dark. It is SUMPTUOUS

    The room feels about 8% smaller and about 800% more glamorous

    *dances in Hicks Blue*

    Lulu Lytle nails it again!
    This is possibly even better than the bedroom. It’s like the dark masculine handsome partner of the decadently feminine opium den bordello of a bedroom. This is the ego calling to my anima, down the hallway of memories

    Gone is the last of the IKEA. Gone is the dreary greige and the listless cream

    SWOONS
    I'm genuinely delighted for you.
    This could be Starmer's salvation.

    Free blue paint on the NHS, and the mood of the country transformed...
    Is it Conservative blue or Reform blue?
    Point of order, and it’s an important one for the next electoral cycle.

    Is Reform’s colour blue? It’s more of a turquoise isn’t it? I would say that’s more a blueish green than a greenish blue.
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