As for mission-critcial systems and Micosoft I agree. However, some years ago I was invited aboard HMS Daring, the T45, destroyer and what was powering the computers in its control room - yup, MS Windows. My ghast had never been so flabbered.
Windows-for-Warships: Another Labour triumph. At least NT5/Win2000 out-lived Vista.
Labour pensions matter more than defence: Just ask Sven. From memory even the Danish went open-source (as opposed to producer-interests) many-a-year-ago.
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
My car's 30 years old this year. All new cars look the same. And so much is done for you it's not like driving at all. A friend with a new-ish car just shelled out 400 quid because her - some pointless gadget, can't recall - went on the blink. Of course they couldn't *fix* it - it needed a whole new motherboard or whatever.
I'll see your 30-year-old car (what is it by the way?) and raise you my 41-year-old Triumph Stag.
Newly tax-free as of Tuesday, but ye gods, what a hassle. Tax expired 31 March but I have to send the V5 and hard copy MOT certificate back to arrive after 1 April so it can be re-annotated as "historic". Only when it comes back can I go online to get the free "non-tax" disc sent out.
Meanwhile, technically, I can't use the roads in it.
Why the flip this can't be automatic I don't know, especially given that DVLA has and can display to me a record of when my car was first taxed. Ie they already have the evidence that it's eligible for the nil rate.
Meanwhile, technically, I can't use the roads in it.
Why the flip this can't be automatic I don't know, especially given that DVLA has and can display to me a record of when my car was first taxed. Ie they already have the evidence that it's eligible for the nil rate.
Mk2 Polo... Mk2 Golf GTI 16v *work in progress*.
Unasked, I give you one my three cycles, an "off-winter" handmade Holdsworth from the early 70s with at least 100,000 miles on it. Being a careful sort, I've refurbished it twice. It has helped save lottsa dosh, and possibly my life.
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
What's the option? Even Farage has (close) friends and family on the expenses payroll.
Miller should be out at the next GE anyway, if electors in Basingstoke have any sense.
Re: Miller - I'm not up with story but I read that she was found not guilty of fiddling her expenses.
Is that incorrect?
Yes, she was fond so not guilty that she had to repay thousands and apologise to the house, which she did with the maximum of bad grace and the minimum of humility, let alone acceptance of guilt, this afternoon.
What I find amazing is that no one on any side seems to want to make a fuss about this. Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative all seem to be keeping their heads down and hoping that it will soon be forgotten. Why?
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
What's the option? Even Farage has (close) friends and family on the expenses payroll.
Miller should be out at the next GE anyway, if electors in Basingstoke have any sense.
Re: Miller - I'm not up with story but I read that she was found not guilty of fiddling her expenses.
Is that incorrect?
Yes, she was fond so not guilty that she had to repay thousands and apologise to the house, which she did with the maximum of bad grace and the minimum of humility, let alone acceptance of guilt, this afternoon.
What I find amazing is that no one on any side seems to want to make a fuss about this. Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative all seem to be keeping their heads down and hoping that it will soon be forgotten. Why?
Easy one, they want same treatment when they are caught out. It is just one big cartel of troughing ar**holes, all 3 parties are complicit.
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
What's the option? Even Farage has (close) friends and family on the expenses payroll.
Miller should be out at the next GE anyway, if electors in Basingstoke have any sense.
That's it, is it Mr. Watcher? They are all at it and therefore there is nothing that can or should be done. Miller was just unlucky to be caught in the spotlight, no need to make a fuss, just keep quiet and it will all blow over.
Of course when ministers get away with corrupt practices that doesn't send any signal to those in the chain beneath them, does it? One would have thought that Cameron, after the fuss he made about the 2009 revelations, would have wanted to put a stop to corruption in public life. It would seem not.
Re: Miller - I'm not up with story but I read that she was found not guilty of fiddling her expenses.
Is that incorrect?
Yes, she was fond so not guilty that she had to repay thousands and apologise to the house, which she did with the maximum of bad grace and the minimum of humility, let alone acceptance of guilt, this afternoon.
What I find amazing is that no one on any side seems to want to make a fuss about this. Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative all seem to be keeping their heads down and hoping that it will soon be forgotten. Why?
Because alot of the Mp's from all parties will bring back bad memories of past expenses scandal,you ask why would you be still happy of voting con at the next GE,look at the labour front bench and you could say the same.
- "... last night’s widely perceived victory by Farage..."
I get the impression that you disagree Mike. Why?
Lots of genies are out of lots of bottles. If UKIP are included with zero MPs then why not the SNP with six MPs? In fact, according to that Populus mega poll, the SNP could be heading for around 20 MPs, which at a pinch could give us more than the Lib Dems. Which is the "major party" then?
LOL, It was fun to watch, Farage ripped the fake a new one. Showed him up for the useless donkey he is. At least Clegg had the courage to try and take Farage on , Dave and Ed are still behind the sofa pretending they are tough, we would know what dunces and muppets looked like if they ever debated with Farage. Even funnier was the UKIP Scotland guy , he was completely mental , claiming that Alex Salmond was dedicated to filling the highland with Pashtun Warriors. This new team in Scotland will go far.
UKIP's Scottish personnel seem to be real fruitcakes, which is a bit of a shame as I'd been hoping they might shave a point ot two off Davidson's bunch.
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
What's the option? Even Farage has (close) friends and family on the expenses payroll.
Miller should be out at the next GE anyway, if electors in Basingstoke have any sense.
That's it, is it Mr. Watcher? They are all at it and therefore there is nothing that can or should be done. Miller was just unlucky to be caught in the spotlight, no need to make a fuss, just keep quiet and it will all blow over.
Of course when ministers get away with corrupt practices that doesn't send any signal to those in the chain beneath them, does it? One would have thought that Cameron, after the fuss he made about the 2009 revelations, would have wanted to put a stop to corruption in public life. It would seem not.
You never know,rumours are a reshuffle after Euro elections,she might get the boot.
Is there anything going on the the real world tonight? I only ask because this place seems unusually quiet generally and totally devoid of those who one might think of as normally supporters of the Conservative Party.
Is there a bigger footer match going on or could it be that even Conservative supporters don't have the face to argue for Maria Miller remaining in government?
My car's 30 years old this year. All new cars look the same. And so much is done for you it's not like driving at all. A friend with a new-ish car just shelled out 400 quid because her - some pointless gadget, can't recall - went on the blink. Of course they couldn't *fix* it - it needed a whole new motherboard or whatever.
I'll see your 30-year-old car (what is it by the way?) and raise you my 41-year-old Triumph Stag.
Newly tax-free as of Tuesday, but ye gods, what a hassle. Tax expired 31 March but I have to send the V5 and hard copy MOT certificate back to arrive after 1 April so it can be re-annotated as "historic". Only when it comes back can I go online to get the free "non-tax" disc sent out.
Meanwhile, technically, I can't use the roads in it.
Why the flip this can't be automatic I don't know, especially given that DVLA has and can display to me a record of when my car was first taxed. Ie they already have the evidence that it's eligible for the nil rate.
Meanwhile, technically, I can't use the roads in it.
Why the flip this can't be automatic I don't know, especially given that DVLA has and can display to me a record of when my car was first taxed. Ie they already have the evidence that it's eligible for the nil rate.
Mk2 Polo... Mk2 Golf GTI 16v *work in progress*.
Unasked, I give you one my three cycles, an "off-winter" handmade Holdsworth from the early 70s with at least 100,000 miles on it. Being a careful sort, I've refurbished it twice. It has helped save lottsa dosh, and possibly my life.
Old stuff's great. I've always collected it. Some of the house 'junk' I picked up back in the day is now worth a fortune.
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Labour pensions matter more than defence: Just ask Sven. From memory even the Danish went open-source (as opposed to producer-interests) many-a-year-ago.
:norwegian-gallow-humour:
" A report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards found that the Culture Secretary over-claimed on her mortgage expenses by more than £40,000. A subsequent report by MPs says that Mrs Miller then repeatedly failed to cooperate with the investigation.
It is important to remember that in any other walk of life the culprit would have lost their job. Military officers would have been cashiered, civil servants would have been sacked, solicitors struck off- even city bankers would have found themselves on the pavement with a possessions in a black plastic bag and a reputation so tainted they could never work again.
Perhaps the most troubling comparison is the fate of benefit claimants, who would never have been allowed to get away with falsely claiming public money, then refusing to assist the authorities when an investigation was launched.
So the prime minister has made a public statement that there is one law for ministers and MPs – and one law for the everybody else."
Anyone on here want to defend Cameron's decision? Anyone on here still happy voting Conservative at the next election?
Unasked, I give you one my three cycles, an "off-winter" handmade Holdsworth from the early 70s with at least 100,000 miles on it. Being a careful sort, I've refurbished it twice. It has helped save lottsa dosh, and possibly my life.
Re: Miller - I'm not up with story but I read that she was found not guilty of fiddling her expenses.
Is that incorrect?
Miller should be out at the next GE anyway, if electors in Basingstoke have any sense.
What I find amazing is that no one on any side seems to want to make a fuss about this. Labour, Lib Dem and Conservative all seem to be keeping their heads down and hoping that it will soon be forgotten. Why?
UKIP have a candidate, Alan Stone:
http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/local/10775719.Antiques_dealer_to_stand_for_UKIP_against_Maria_Miller_in_2015_General_Election/?ref=rss
Of course when ministers get away with corrupt practices that doesn't send any signal to those in the chain beneath them, does it? One would have thought that Cameron, after the fuss he made about the 2009 revelations, would have wanted to put a stop to corruption in public life. It would seem not.
Because alot of the Mp's from all parties will bring back bad memories of past expenses scandal,you ask why would you be still happy of voting con at the next GE,look at the labour front bench and you could say the same.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/apr/03/clegg-hosts-his-lbc-phone-in-and-reaction-to-the-clegg-v-farage-debate-politics-live-blog
Is there a bigger footer match going on or could it be that even Conservative supporters don't have the face to argue for Maria Miller remaining in government?
Old stuff's great. I've always collected it. Some of the house 'junk' I picked up back in the day is now worth a fortune.
What happens when a leaflet without a barchart comes through a letterbox?
See ....
http://www.markpack.org.uk/48953/what-happens-when-a-leaflet-without-a-barchart-comes-through-a-letterbox/