Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
I think we can file that with your other electoral predictions.
Most of my electoral predictions have been utter brilliant. The GE would be before summer recess I told you before we even entered 2024. I gave you July 4th weeks before Sunak even thought of it himself. I gave you a Labour front bencher losing in the midst of a Labour landslide at least two years before the election.
I will add my own. The Conservatives will do significantly better in terms of seats won in 2029 than they did in 2024.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
I think we can file that with your other electoral predictions.
Most of my electoral predictions have been utter brilliant. The GE would be before summer recess I told you before we even entered 2024. I gave you July 4th weeks before Sunak even thought of it himself. I gave you a Labour front bencher losing in the midst of a Labour landslide at least two years before the election.
You keep predicting Conservative victories and they keep losing
Read the Hagakure
Defeat is the bestest kind of victory. It’s all about the style - merely winning is just for losers.
This has flagged by a load of people with serious reach within gambling space as soon as it was inserted.
And on PB.
I highlighted at the time, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Senators aren't reading PB....but people in the US who are well known in gambling and have fairly big reach did speak out and were ignored.
If Senators are not reading PB and are not reading President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill they rubber-stamped, what are they doing? Surely insider trading can't take that much time.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
This has flagged by a load of people with serious reach within gambling space as soon as it was inserted.
And on PB.
I highlighted at the time, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Senators aren't reading PB....but people in the US who are well known in gambling and have fairly big reach did speak out and were ignored.
If Senators are not reading PB and are not reading President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill they rubber-stamped, what are they doing? Surely insider trading can't take that much time.
Banging the intern?
Not Chuck Grassley, I'd hope.
In his case, I imagine just sleeping rather than sleeping with anybody.
Its is frankly ridiculous that the US have a lower age limit and term limits on role of President, but you can have these senators who are way into their 80s and 90s and 50 years in their seat.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
I think we can file that with your other electoral predictions.
Most of my electoral predictions have been utter brilliant. The GE would be before summer recess I told you before we even entered 2024. I gave you July 4th weeks before Sunak even thought of it himself. I gave you a Labour front bencher losing in the midst of a Labour landslide at least two years before the election.
I will add my own. The Conservatives will do significantly better in terms of seats won in 2029 than they did in 2024.
If they can get back to 23.7% plus (not a massive leap of faith) they'll do better
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
Is this satire? Can’t tell
If I asked you “who are the English?” You couldn’t answer. You don’t do history as well as me.
So, who are the English?
The people who almost always decide how the UK should be governed.
This has flagged by a load of people with serious reach within gambling space as soon as it was inserted.
And on PB.
I highlighted at the time, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Senators aren't reading PB....but people in the US who are well known in gambling and have fairly big reach did speak out and were ignored.
If Senators are not reading PB and are not reading President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill they rubber-stamped, what are they doing? Surely insider trading can't take that much time.
Banging the intern?
Not Chuck Grassley, I'd hope.
Thoughts and prayers for the intern if so...
Could be dangerous for both, might lead to a by-erection.
Many individuals should face criminal trials over this scandal, but do we think any will ?
And on more depressing news both labour and the conservatives make solemn pledges to retain the triple lock which shows just how much serious trouble we are when neither are fit to govern when they put their popularity before doing the right thing
Where on earth is the leader we need to take the difficult decisions, wean us off spending and borrowing, and take the country away from an inevitable debt crisis
In a couple of years or so, the triple lock will take the state pension up to the level of the basic tax allowance, the latter being frozen (with the freeze hotly expected to be extended). At that point, I suggest something will have to change, to avoid the scenario whereby millions of pensioners whose only income is the state pension suddenly starting to pay tax. Somehow, the state pension and the basic tax allowance will have to be harmonised, and while it might be good news if the tax allowance were indexed to the triple lock, I suspect this will prove unaffordable and therefore the triple lock will have to go.
That looks like next year, we already know what will happen, pensioners will demand a larger personal tax allowance than everyone else, it's already started https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz74yw87jygo
Everyone read that article. We. Are. F*****.
Sorry, if their income exceeds their personal allowance why should they not pay IT? I used to say to my boss in my solicitor days that one of my ambitions in life was to pay CGT. I never have, sadly.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Reform are a bubble in need of a prick. I reckon they'll find one before GE29. Four years is a long life for an unpricked bubble.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
I think we can file that with your other electoral predictions.
Most of my electoral predictions have been utter brilliant. The GE would be before summer recess I told you before we even entered 2024. I gave you July 4th weeks before Sunak even thought of it himself. I gave you a Labour front bencher losing in the midst of a Labour landslide at least two years before the election.
I will add my own. The Conservatives will do significantly better in terms of seats won in 2029 than they did in 2024.
Ill add one. James McMurdock will have joined Restore Britain by conference season
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Reform are a bubble in need of a prick. I reckon they'll find one before GE29. Four years is a long life for an unpricked bubble.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Currently, 75% are anti-Labour, and 81% are anti-Conservative. In such an environment, the party that is opposed by 70% wins.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Reform are a bubble in need of a prick. I reckon they'll find one before GE29. Four years is a long life for an unpricked bubble.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Reform are a bubble in need of a prick. I reckon they'll find one before GE29. Four years is a long life for an unpricked bubble.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
Is this satire? Can’t tell
If I asked you “who are the English?” You couldn’t answer. You don’t do history as well as me.
So, who are the English?
The people who almost always decide how the UK should be governed.
Because they are 75% of it. You do the math!
Closer to 85%, but in any case you wanted an answer and that’s certainly one if one was looking for someone to blame for a succession of great British clusterfucks.
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
Is this satire? Can’t tell
If I asked you “who are the English?” You couldn’t answer. You don’t do history as well as me.
So, who are the English?
The people who almost always decide how the UK should be governed.
I'm now on the beach, in a little cove off the Norwegian Sea. When I turned up there were only a couple of campers packing up their stuff, but now families are arriving and a few people are bravely venturing into the sea - the water is freezing; helpfully curative for my sprained ankle; but the air temp is probably 17, and with only a few wispy high clouds and little wind, it feels warmer in the sun. I doubt days like this come along very often right up here. Peak temperature today is forecast for 8-9 pm, as the sun doesn't set until nearly 1 am.
The alarming aspect of this particular scandal is the corruption and deliberate misleading of our courts and the failure of the court system to spot it. This failure undermines the rule of law in a very serious way. If we can't rely on the courts to get to the truth who can we rely on?
That's my view but I, like @Cyclefree, am a lawyer so maybe that aspect is overly prominent in my mind and maybe non lawyers don't quite see it that way.
The story on Today this morning was mainly about the blood scandal but the description of how the compensatory schemes have completely failed to work was so similar that it was easy to get confused between the two. What is plainly required in both cases is immediate interim payments that are substantial enough to let people start re building their lives. If we end up slightly over paying in some cases that is simply too bad. I was shocked and appalled that the claims for the blood victims die with them, they do not form a part of their estate. And hundreds have died. It has been used before on this thread but for shame. For shame in our name.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
We generated about 180% of our electricity consumption last year, just from renewables. The danger is Miliband ends up pissing off everyone - fossil fuel oddballs and mad greens alike.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Reform are a bubble in need of a prick. I reckon they'll find one before GE29. Four years is a long life for an unpricked bubble.
The alarming aspect of this particular scandal is the corruption and deliberate misleading of our courts and the failure of the court system to spot it. This failure undermines the rule of law in a very serious way. If we can't rely on the courts to get to the truth who can we rely on?
That's my view but I, like @Cyclefree, am a lawyer so maybe that aspect is overly prominent in my mind and maybe non lawyers don't quite see it that way.
The story on Today this morning was mainly about the blood scandal but the description of how the compensatory schemes have completely failed to work was so similar that it was easy to get confused between the two. What is plainly required in both cases is immediate interim payments that are substantial enough to let people start re building their lives. If we end up slightly over paying in some cases that is simply too bad. I was shocked and appalled that the claims for the blood victims die with them, they do not form a part of their estate. And hundreds have died. It has been used before on this thread but for shame. For shame in our name.
People dying before they can recover compensation is a feature, not a bug, of these compensation schemes.
We are governed by people who, mostly, do not give a flying f*ck about the average citizen.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Currently, 75% are anti-Labour, and 81% are anti-Conservative. In such an environment, the party that is opposed by 70% wins.
58% of LD voters would tactically vote Labour in a Labour held marginal seat to defeat Reform, as would 55% of Green voters and even 10% of Tory voters.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
Lots of companies charge extra for delivery north of the central belt.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Thanks for the invitation; however it needs nuancing. Labour are, with Reform, joint faves for most seats. I think there is a more than 50% chance of a Labour government from 2029. The signs of a Tory recovery are small. The chance of a Reform bust are more than small. The proportion of people in it who are dim lunatics with personality problems who hate large chunks of the human race is greater than needed for comfort.There are four years to go. It is hard, though possible, to imagine Labour being worse than they are now. Easy to imagine Reform coming unstuck either by personalities, moving to the social democrat centre, as they have to, or being taken over by the hard right (which Farage is keen to avoid).
'To the least worst, the spoils'. Labour edge it, for a Bleak House (of Commons) in Hard Times.
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Currently, 75% are anti-Labour, and 81% are anti-Conservative. In such an environment, the party that is opposed by 70% wins.
58% of LD voters would tactically vote Labour in a Labour held marginal seat to defeat Reform, as would 55% of Green voters and even 10% of Tory voters.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
So speaks someone without an IV postcode. People in the Highlands and Islands already get charged extra - it's quite a big local politics issue.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Fell for big business lobbying. Which for a self-proclaimed socialist ought to be downright embarrassing.
They don't care as they're getting premium prices for cheap electricity, and get paid for the surplus which can't be used.
I get that the transition to zonal pricing would necessarily be difficult. But to simply abandon it is pitiful stuff.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Zonal pricing would be hugely unpopular everywhere apart from Scotland and Wales, though it might shock English nimbys into not opposing power lines and wind farms.
The alarming aspect of this particular scandal is the corruption and deliberate misleading of our courts and the failure of the court system to spot it. This failure undermines the rule of law in a very serious way. If we can't rely on the courts to get to the truth who can we rely on?
That's my view but I, like @Cyclefree, am a lawyer so maybe that aspect is overly prominent in my mind and maybe non lawyers don't quite see it that way.
The story on Today this morning was mainly about the blood scandal but the description of how the compensatory schemes have completely failed to work was so similar that it was easy to get confused between the two. What is plainly required in both cases is immediate interim payments that are substantial enough to let people start re building their lives. If we end up slightly over paying in some cases that is simply too bad. I was shocked and appalled that the claims for the blood victims die with them, they do not form a part of their estate. And hundreds have died. It has been used before on this thread but for shame. For shame in our name.
That was a calculus which was already clear, way back, when Thatcher was still PM. It's never really changed, just that the details have become more blatant. A black mark on Ken Clarke's career.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
So speaks someone without an IV postcode. People in the Highlands and Islands already get charged extra - it's quite a big local politics issue.
The exception is Royal Mail.
Indeed the universal service and its extensive rural and small town network is the main benefit of retaining Royal Mail
Kemi seems to all over the place today. No clear theme or direction.
Not at all, she is tying Starmer and his government into knots just as she has been doing recently.
The Tories are right back in with a sniff of power a lot quicker than people thought. As Reform continue to struggle and dwindle, the Conservative vote share is going to grow and grow, built on the performances of Kemi and her front bench in recent months.
What do you base this on, given the recent polls showing the Conservatives around 20% (e.g. the latest one putting them on 19%)?
I think, based on recent canvassing, that most people have largely given up on politics as a source of helpful developments. There is a vague tendency to try Reform, because they've not been tried before, and otherwise lots of people (like me) who feel the situation is difficult and nobody is offering a realistic and coherent way forward.
You know politics well Nick, the performances change for the better before the polls follow suit.
If you just look at the last week or so, Tories are down. If you look a little longer they are just holding their own, if you look back a sensible length of time they are down and out. They are, IMO, about as low as they can be given their irreducible core vote. The rest of the voters are beginning to forget they exist.
The slightly more interesting movement is that, despite being a total disaster, Labour are holding their own and Reform are drifting down. After the last 12 months for Labour to be within about 5 points of the leader is quite good. For the opposition to be trailing third and sometimes vying for fourth is less good.
Tell us for the trillionth time how Labour are on course to win the next GE
Tell us how it can be Reform, with at least 70% of voters out to destroy the Reform candidate in a FPTP election?
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
Currently, 75% are anti-Labour, and 81% are anti-Conservative. In such an environment, the party that is opposed by 70% wins.
58% of LD voters would tactically vote Labour in a Labour held marginal seat to defeat Reform, as would 55% of Green voters and even 10% of Tory voters.
Many individuals should face criminal trials over this scandal, but do we think any will ?
And on more depressing news both labour and the conservatives make solemn pledges to retain the triple lock which shows just how much serious trouble we are when neither are fit to govern when they put their popularity before doing the right thing
Where on earth is the leader we need to take the difficult decisions, wean us off spending and borrowing, and take the country away from an inevitable debt crisis
In a couple of years or so, the triple lock will take the state pension up to the level of the basic tax allowance, the latter being frozen (with the freeze hotly expected to be extended). At that point, I suggest something will have to change, to avoid the scenario whereby millions of pensioners whose only income is the state pension suddenly starting to pay tax. Somehow, the state pension and the basic tax allowance will have to be harmonised, and while it might be good news if the tax allowance were indexed to the triple lock, I suspect this will prove unaffordable and therefore the triple lock will have to go.
I don't believe anyone can just be on state pension, they would be eligible for pension credits and all sorts of stuff. Benefits should be taxable for sure , people getting thousands a month on top of free housing and don't pay a penny in tax. Some mug working for £15K gets taxed , unbelievable.
If you are receiving full state pension you won't get pension credit, or help with council tax, or water, or energy.
Surprised me for sure, and yet morons like Bart simpson want to tax them and make them pay NI and university fees.
I want everyone earning the same income to pay the same tax rate, yes.
Why should those working for a living be paying a higher rate of tax than those who are not? Throwing the word moron about is not an answer.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
So speaks someone without an IV postcode. People in the Highlands and Islands already get charged extra - it's quite a big local politics issue.
The exception is Royal Mail.
Indeed the universal service and its extensive rural and small town network is the main benefit of retaining Royal Mail
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
So speaks someone without an IV postcode. People in the Highlands and Islands already get charged extra - it's quite a big local politics issue.
The exception is Royal Mail.
Indeed the universal service and its extensive rural and small town network is the main benefit of retaining Royal Mail
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
Is this satire? Can’t tell
If I asked you “who are the English?” You couldn’t answer. You don’t do history as well as me.
So, who are the English?
No, it’s that Redwood was being satirical, apparently. I can’t tell if you are.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
OK, 1906 to 1916 then, though the combined Asquith and Lloyd George Liberals still held most seats in the Commons until 1918
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died (even if today's LDs are a product of the merger of the Liberals and SDP), otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died, otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a party of the 2010-2015 UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Sigh. Figuratively speaking, as a party of leading government in the United Kingdom.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died (even if today's LDs are a product of the merger of the Liberals and SDP), otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Take it up with George Dangerfield who coined the phrase in 1935.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died (even if today's LDs are a product of the merger of the Liberals and SDP), otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Take it up with George Dangerfield who coined the phrase in 1935.
Though he titled it 'The Strange Death of Liberal England' rather than 'The Strange Death of the Liberal Party'
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died (even if today's LDs are a product of the merger of the Liberals and SDP), otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Essentially, the Liberal Party was barely functioning, between 1935 and 1959.
In 1951 and 1955, they held 5 or their remaining 6 seats, only because the Conservatives did not field candidates against them.
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died (even if today's LDs are a product of the merger of the Liberals and SDP), otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Take it up with George Dangerfield who coined the phrase in 1935.
Though he titled it 'The Strange Death of Liberal England' rather than 'The Strange Death of the Liberal Party'
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
I genuinely wonder if there will be an attempt to ban smartphones. Entirely. For everyone
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
Is this satire? Can’t tell
If I asked you “who are the English?” You couldn’t answer. You don’t do history as well as me.
So, who are the English?
No, it’s that Redwood was being satirical, apparently. I can’t tell if you are.
John Redwood. One of the great satirists. His Welsh national anthem sketch is perhaps his masterpiece. Hasn't dated at all, when stuff like Python from back then sadly has.
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
I genuinely wonder if there will be an attempt to ban smartphones. Entirely. For everyone
For under 16s certainly, they encourage unrealistic perfection and lead to out of school bullying and distraction from homework and family meals etc
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This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
A scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry is exactly what this summer is missing. Looking forward to the weekend BBQ and watching England tear itself apart.
Rest is History specials, a Reform rally at Hastings, Spectator in turmoil. In. My. Veins.
Why would there be a scandal over the Bayeux Tapestry? Have I missed something?
Do they object to the Sutton Hoo helmet being lent to France?
John Redwood has decided it's an insult to the English, as it features scenes of Norman domination. He's a bit late to the story on this one.
I was in the Con Club with my Dad and there was a lot of bad feeling towards the tapestry gift. Redwood is right, and the English Nation is right behind him on this, Macron and the French are knowingly taking the piss out of us with “le gift”. Although the tapestry is complete gibberish in terms of history - no arrow through the eye etc, that’s just victors rewriting history to say God was in their side (and back up by the Pope and his corrupt Catholic money), as art it shouldn’t be destroyed as a lot of protestors want - I don’t think it should come here, it won’t be safe. It won’t go back in one piece and I am sure Macron knows this.
The historical question being asked is very easy - Normans weren’t franks or French, they were back door Vikings, the type our Saxon Kings gaily slaughtered on the were sniff of the smelly things. Vikings, especially the ones who converted to Christianity for land and money were simply gangsters and racketeers. And not to forget harrowing of the North that was even worse for Yorkshire than what the Labour government is now doing. The the Norman’s did give us English our flag and some other good things that were good. History lesson over. Hope that clears all the questions up.
If you say so, Moon Rabbit ! Although I was taught at school that the Normans tended to have one Viking and one French paren, and many English surnames are Norman - Bennett, Warren, Mortimer, Percy, Clifford, Deneuve-Mordaunt, Etc.
Norman’s are Vikings. You notice how they came from nowhere and disappeared into nowhere, not long Vikings history? The Vikings didn’t disappear, they became normans and English by switching from raiding to squatting like mafia bosses and racketeers, that’s how economies ticked up, as Viking squatting landlord racketeers spent the money in the place they now squatting not raiding.
If you trying to defend Vikings, how come Vikings only remembered with bad names - Bjorn the sneak, Ragnar the untrustworthy, Nogbad the Bad, Bluetooth the bad breath, Count Otto the oddo?
They had those nicknames to distinguish them from the good ones, of course.
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
One lesson we should all learn is that change evolves, and those who oppose change disappear, those that accept it reluctantly do not prosper, but those who actively welcome change succeeds
Round Table's motto in their day was 'adapt, adopt, and improve' and that is good advice
I think Rotary clubs must still exist as I see their social media, but they have adapted and welcome lady members, indeed as I understand it the local Rotary Club's present President is a lady
At times you remind me of the dinosaurs, and we know what happen to them
Cyclefree, excellent article, it made for very tough reading and I still cannot comprehend the fact that these sub postmasters who suffered this terrible injustice are still waiting for recompense and compensation for the terrible suffering they endured.
Hmm, I think Labour's ditching of zonal pricing will have had a material impact on the SNP's chances next year. Such an obvious weakness for UK Government - not sure why they floated it unless they were going to push it through.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
It's a huge f-you to Scotland. "You guys with all the wind turbines? Just keep paying London prices for your electricity, kthxbye!"
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
Although if you want regional prices for electricity etc can we have regional pricing for post? Why is it the same to post Warminster to Wick as it is Warminster to Frome?
So speaks someone without an IV postcode. People in the Highlands and Islands already get charged extra - it's quite a big local politics issue.
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This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
So on that poll Farage could form a minority government with DUP and TUV confidence and supply without needing the Tories
That would be the first time Labour and Conservative MPs have sat together on the Opposition benches.
Since universal suffrage yes but from 1906-1918 Conservative and Labour MPs were on the back benches to the Liberal governments of Campbell Bannerman, Asquith and Lloyd George
Yes, you are correct from 1906 to December 1916 but wasn't the Lloyd George Government a coalition with Conservatives and Labour and didn't Asquith and his Liberals go to the opposition benches?
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Yep, the strange death of the Liberal Party 1916-1924 Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
The Liberal party never died, otherwise who are the 72 MPs Ed Davey leads?
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a party of the 2010-2015 UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
Sigh. Figuratively speaking, as a party of leading government in the United Kingdom.
And the Lib Dems are running lots of local authorities too.....
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This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
And the potential opportunity of being at the opposite polar to the forces of reaction and populism of Reform and with both Tory and Labour discredited come the next election.
Whilst I agree with Mark that the LibDems are potentially very vulnerable to even a small recovery in Tory fortunes next time, there is also a scenario with a significant upside, certainly in terms of votes.
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
One lesson we should all learn is that change evolves, and those who oppose change disappear, those that accept it reluctantly do not prosper, but those who actively welcome change succeeds
Round Table's motto in their day was 'adapt, adopt, and improve' and that is good advice
I think Rotary clubs must still exist as I see their social media, but they have adapted and welcome lady members, indeed as I understand it the local Rotary Club's present President is a lady
At times you remind me of the dinosaurs, and we know what happen to them
Where did I say Rotary Club Presidents could not be women? Though there is the Inner Wheel female equivalent, my parents have been Presidents of both
Obviously timed for HOC recess and public away on holidays
Mind you, as with anything Trump who knows?
And AFTER Macron state visit to UK and the King's visit to Canada to open their parliament, so Trump went to back of the queue
It should be timed for AFTER Ukraine is given enough munitions to repel Putin.
I sympathise with the sentiment, and I think sucking up to Trump is mostly futile, but I can understand why they're making the attempt and I wish them every success with it.
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
And a consistent rise in their poll ratings in recent weeks.
Just had the local fire service knock the door. Talking about smoke alarms. Fitted two free ones. Obviously not free because my taxes have been paying them since I have lived up here but all the same.
Putting aside the clickbait title, the crux seems to be that he has become active on social media / going to demonstrations while in the UK illegally. He hasn't been able to prove his claims of attending demonstrations while in Iraq.
This again seems a very easy way to game the system. Get here, while the system is sorting out your claim, get mouthy on socials in English, then claim I can't go back because somebody might find my Faceache posts. Job done.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
Yes, but can Ed Davey control whether or not the civic centre at West Northamptonshire Council flies a gay pride flag occasionally? He cannot, whereas Nigel Farage's word is as the word of God Almighty on that matter.
Just had the local fire service knock the door. Talking about smoke alarms. Fitted two free ones. Obviously not free because my taxes have been paying them since I have lived up here but all the same.
Could have been worse. "Afternoon sir, would you like to contribute to the annual Fire Service retirement fund? No? Oh well. By the way, those timbers look very flammable, wouldn't want a nasty fire round here now would we?"
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
They're not going to the interview tomorrow.
Curious - what could the game be? Shell companies… but why hire staff?
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
One lesson we should all learn is that change evolves, and those who oppose change disappear, those that accept it reluctantly do not prosper, but those who actively welcome change succeeds
Round Table's motto in their day was 'adapt, adopt, and improve' and that is good advice
I think Rotary clubs must still exist as I see their social media, but they have adapted and welcome lady members, indeed as I understand it the local Rotary Club's present President is a lady
At times you remind me of the dinosaurs, and we know what happen to them
Where did I say Rotary Club Presidents could not be women? Though there is the Inner Wheel female equivalent, my parents have been Presidents of both
Again you miss the point
Rotary clubs were all male, but then they changed to accept the ladies
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
They're not going to the interview tomorrow.
Curious - what could the game be? Shell companies… but why hire staff?
I am trying to remember the scam. The BBC did an expose on this a while back.
The other cons that come to find is being a unknowing gopher for organised crime where you process payments, fill in forms to the tax man etc, with your name being attached to them.
The other one is this Northern Korean tech workers who get jobs in the West doing it all remote from North Korea, but they also do need locals to a) run laptops that need to be located in the country of their job and also to process all the paperwork / transfer their pay each month etc.
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
One lesson we should all learn is that change evolves, and those who oppose change disappear, those that accept it reluctantly do not prosper, but those who actively welcome change succeeds
Round Table's motto in their day was 'adapt, adopt, and improve' and that is good advice
I think Rotary clubs must still exist as I see their social media, but they have adapted and welcome lady members, indeed as I understand it the local Rotary Club's present President is a lady
At times you remind me of the dinosaurs, and we know what happen to them
Where did I say Rotary Club Presidents could not be women? Though there is the Inner Wheel female equivalent, my parents have been Presidents of both
Again you miss the point
Rotary clubs were all male, but then they changed to accept the ladies
Just had the local fire service knock the door. Talking about smoke alarms. Fitted two free ones. Obviously not free because my taxes have been paying them since I have lived up here but all the same.
Could have been worse. "Afternoon sir, would you like to contribute to the annual Fire Service retirement fund? No? Oh well. By the way, those timbers look very flammable, wouldn't want a nasty fire round here now would we?"
If his name badge had said Ronnie or Reggie I may have been concerned !
I'm late to this article, but what a good one it is. This phrase says it all in relation to this scandal:
But I will suggest one deeper reason. We have, as a society, lost any sense of shame and guilt. We threw them out, thinking that they were horrible, old-fashioned feelings which oppressed people unnecessarily. And while there was some truth in that, in reality, some behaviour is shameful and people ought to feel ashamed and guilty. Some shame and guilt are essential to ensuring effective boundaries on our behaviour and some sense of conscience – a professional conscience, if you will, for those not wanting its religious overtones. But however you describe it, without this at an individual level, a person cannot be truly said to have integrity.
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This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
Yes, but can Ed Davey control whether or not the civic centre at West Northamptonshire Council flies a gay pride flag occasionally? He cannot, whereas Nigel Farage's word is as the word of God Almighty on that matter.
Afternoon everyone.
Why should Ed D 'control' things like that? As you rightly suggest Farage come across as somewhat (indeed quite a lot) of control freak!
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
I genuinely wonder if there will be an attempt to ban smartphones. Entirely. For everyone
For under 16s certainly, they encourage unrealistic perfection and lead to out of school bullying and distraction from homework and family meals etc
More importantly smartphones remove the need for in-person socialisation. No need to go out and meet your friends to talk if you are all in the same WhatsApp/Insta/Whatever group chat.
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
They're not going to the interview tomorrow.
Bet he got a £50k covid "loan" for all his companies too.
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
And a consistent rise in their poll ratings in recent weeks.
Their polling has not risen in recent weeks outside normal poll to poll movements
And young people, bring back WI, Mothers' Union, Rotary Club, youth clubs, scouts etc and champion mothers and wives as well as high earning career women
I genuinely wonder if there will be an attempt to ban smartphones. Entirely. For everyone
For under 16s certainly, they encourage unrealistic perfection and lead to out of school bullying and distraction from homework and family meals etc
More importantly smartphones remove the need for in-person socialisation. No need to go out and meet your friends to talk if you are all in the same WhatsApp/Insta/Whatever group chat.
And even if you do half the time people are on their phones, though of course the internet and social media enabled politics nerds UK wide to come together on this site. Half a century ago even the local Tory and Labour clubs weren't as politically obsessed
My eldest rings me up. News of a job interview tomorrow. I enquire as to who it's with and he gives a company name in Sheffield. Website is bullshit bingo and agency photos. "Marketing lead generation for blue chip clients" apparently. No company information on there at all.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
They're not going to the interview tomorrow.
Curious - what could the game be? Shell companies… but why hire staff?
Nor shell companies. Each separately owned by the dude, not one of the other companies. No complex structure or nesting.
Comedy review on Indeed. 3 employees have posted 5 star reviews! In every category. Yep, all 3 posted on the same day. Then one from a sucker. Its pay per lead. Street chugging and door knocking. No idea what the hustle is, but whatever it is they're not filing accounts or any paperwork other than incorporation and then strike off. Over and over again in overlapping time periods.
Just had the local fire service knock the door. Talking about smoke alarms. Fitted two free ones. Obviously not free because my taxes have been paying them since I have lived up here but all the same.
Our fire service have been doing this for some years, and about 6 months ago they called on each and every home with advice and fitting new alarms, and in our case renewed the two they had fitted previously
However, a few weeks later one of the alarms went off in the early hours, and I have to say they are very effective in waking you up
I called the fire servive and the next day this huge fire engine and crew arrived, and changed the faulty one
All free, but saving more than they cost in lives and getting help
RefUK 321 Lab 164 LD 66 Con 46 SNP 24 PC 4 Grn 2 Others 23
This,looks like the definition of a snooze summer poll. I can almost hear them doing the research from their deckchairs.
Gotta feel for the Lib Dems; despite decades of effort as the third party, they've utterly failed to capitalise on the decline of the two major parties....
Apart from winning a record number of MPs at the last election, that is.
And a consistent rise in their poll ratings in recent weeks.
MoE. They have done nothing to earn an increase, so any increase is likely just churn.
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Defeat is the bestest kind of victory. It’s all about the style - merely winning is just for losers.
You notice how the Conservative press, Mail, Express, etc have stopped acknowledging Farage existence let alone the cheerleading for him - just like Boris asked them to - and push only for Kemi and the Conservatives?
When the tide turns it’s time to acknowledge it, and buy your fish and chips.
I'm already getting targeted ads about subsiding the SE with Tartan Turbines.
Its is frankly ridiculous that the US have a lower age limit and term limits on role of President, but you can have these senators who are way into their 80s and 90s and 50 years in their seat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rp3jykvg2o
Miliband is so dumb he's an actual menace.
That's my view but I, like @Cyclefree, am a lawyer so maybe that aspect is overly prominent in my mind and maybe non lawyers don't quite see it that way.
The story on Today this morning was mainly about the blood scandal but the description of how the compensatory schemes have completely failed to work was so similar that it was easy to get confused between the two. What is plainly required in both cases is immediate interim payments that are substantial enough to let people start re building their lives. If we end up slightly over paying in some cases that is simply too bad. I was shocked and appalled that the claims for the blood victims die with them, they do not form a part of their estate. And hundreds have died. It has been used before on this thread but for shame. For shame in our name.
We are governed by people who, mostly, do not give a flying f*ck about the average citizen.
22% of Labour, 33% of LD and even 11% of Green voters would tactically vote Conservative in a Tory held marginal seat to keep out Reform
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51713-is-tactical-voting-more-of-a-threat-or-opportunity-for-reform-uk
https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-assault-brigade-captures-russian-troops-using-only-drones-and-robots-in-historic-operation-military-says-06-2025/
Trump to visit UK in the coming weeks
Obviously timed for HOC recess and public away on holidays
Mind you, as with anything Trump who knows?
'To the least worst, the spoils'. Labour edge it, for a Bleak House (of Commons) in Hard Times.
The exception is Royal Mail.
Which for a self-proclaimed socialist ought to be downright embarrassing.
They don't care as they're getting premium prices for cheap electricity, and get paid for the surplus which can't be used.
I get that the transition to zonal pricing would necessarily be difficult. But to simply abandon it is pitiful stuff.
A black mark on Ken Clarke's career.
Why should those working for a living be paying a higher rate of tax than those who are not? Throwing the word moron about is not an answer.
I think Bonar Law was Chancellor and Arthur Henderson also served in the Cabinet.
Good job nothing happened to another party of government 2016-2024!
It did not lead a UK government again since Lloyd George yes but then it was still a part of the 2010-2015 Conservative and LD UK government and the WW2 wartime coalition government and Liberal MPs propped up Callaghan's government too
The intense and increasing loneliness of the western world. In a few charts. THIS is something to worry about
https://x.com/davidshor/status/1942932100707225620?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
In 1951 and 1955, they held 5 or their remaining 6 seats, only because the Conservatives did not field candidates against them.
Round Table's motto in their day was 'adapt, adopt, and improve' and that is good advice
I think Rotary clubs must still exist as I see their social media, but they have adapted and welcome lady members, indeed as I understand it the local Rotary Club's present President is a lady
At times you remind me of the dinosaurs, and we know what happen to them
Whilst I agree with Mark that the LibDems are potentially very vulnerable to even a small recovery in Tory fortunes next time, there is also a scenario with a significant upside, certainly in terms of votes.
Hmmm. Onto Companies House and I find them. And the same guy has founded another 6 iterations of the same company, often one every month, all of which are dissolved after 17 months. Hmmm. All with the same single shareholder / PSC. Hmmm.
They're not going to the interview tomorrow.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/09/asylum-seeker-can-stay-in-uk-because-of-speech-impediment/
Putting aside the clickbait title, the crux seems to be that he has become active on social media / going to demonstrations while in the UK illegally. He hasn't been able to prove his claims of attending demonstrations while in Iraq.
This again seems a very easy way to game the system. Get here, while the system is sorting out your claim, get mouthy on socials in English, then claim I can't go back because somebody might find my Faceache posts. Job done.
Rotary clubs were all male, but then they changed to accept the ladies
Jobfished: the con that tricked dozens into working for a fake design agency
Published
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60387324
The other cons that come to find is being a unknowing gopher for organised crime where you process payments, fill in forms to the tax man etc, with your name being attached to them.
The other one is this Northern Korean tech workers who get jobs in the West doing it all remote from North Korea, but they also do need locals to a) run laptops that need to be located in the country of their job and also to process all the paperwork / transfer their pay each month etc.
But I will suggest one deeper reason. We have, as a society, lost any sense of shame and guilt. We threw them out, thinking that they were horrible, old-fashioned feelings which oppressed people unnecessarily. And while there was some truth in that, in reality, some behaviour is shameful and people ought to feel ashamed and guilty. Some shame and guilt are essential to ensuring effective boundaries on our behaviour and some sense of conscience – a professional conscience, if you will, for those not wanting its religious overtones. But however you describe it, without this at an individual level, a person cannot be truly said to have integrity.
Thank you Cyclefree.
Why should Ed D 'control' things like that?
As you rightly suggest Farage come across as somewhat (indeed quite a lot) of control freak!
Comedy review on Indeed. 3 employees have posted 5 star reviews! In every category. Yep, all 3 posted on the same day. Then one from a sucker. Its pay per lead. Street chugging and door knocking. No idea what the hustle is, but whatever it is they're not filing accounts or any paperwork other than incorporation and then strike off. Over and over again in overlapping time periods.
However, a few weeks later one of the alarms went off in the early hours, and I have to say they are very effective in waking you up
I called the fire servive and the next day this huge fire engine and crew arrived, and changed the faulty one
All free, but saving more than they cost in lives and getting help