In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
I started watching cricket in 1990 when Gooch was godlike, 333 (and 123) against India at Lord's.
The following year the best innings by England batter when he scored 154* against the Windies when Ambrose, Marshall, Walsh, and Patterson were destroying everyone else, the next highest score was 27.
Interesting that Gooch started off the international season with a golden duck against New Zealand at Trent Bridge, albeit a delivery bowled by the genius Richard Hadlee.
When you think about it, it's funny how Larkins got selected for overseas tours in 1989/1990 and 1990/91 when he was pretty old for a test cricketer but didn't get selected for any home matches during that general period. You'd think it would be the other way round if anything, because in those days oversea tours were reckoned to be a lot harder to cope with. That probably isn't true so much now.
My assumption was that they offered chances to everyone on the rebel tours. Not sure why, maybe there was some sort of unspoken agreement to offer something to make up expected lifetime earnings.
Putting someone on a tour was easier than selecting for a home test when there was competition from people making big runs in the County Championship, back when it meant something and there were no central contracts.
It wasn't that much money, at the time, the belief was there wouldn't be any bans for the rebel tours, because the bans for playing World Series Cricket were overturned for being restraint of trade.
But by the time of the rebel tours the TCCB had better lawyers and the bans stayed.
In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
No issue with success from me - they have done very well for themselves.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
A quick Google suggests League Two players are pushing £100k per year. Ten years of that and your set for life.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
A quick Google suggests League Two players are pushing £100k per year. Ten years of that and your set for life.
Bit more than I expected to be honest. I thought it was around 50k.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
A quick Google suggests League Two players are pushing £100k per year. Ten years of that and your set for life.
As long as you don't spend too much while you're working
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
A quick Google suggests League Two players are pushing £100k per year. Ten years of that and your set for life.
You don't even need that. You can make life changing money now if you can sign a big contract as a youth player.
It is now not unheard of for some to make millions by 21, not make it, be setup with a Division One or Two club, take one look at the facilities and go you are alright I don't need the money.
Interesting quote from Nigel Farage in an interview with The Times:
“Those who try to demonise me could be in for a terrible shock once I’m gone. That’s why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system, to change things.”
What with Glastonbury I cannot get out of my mind J G Ballard's penultimate novel, Millenium People, about the English middle class engaging in a violent rebellion due to the cost of living in London.
I don't think he mentioned the Jews in it. Perhaps I will have to re-read.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take it.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
I saw a recent interview with him in which he claims he never been a drinker (or drugs), that he was addicted to Playstation....and numerous times he was out playing football with his mates until the small hours, meaning he didn't turn up for training.
I don't know how much he is trying to rewrite history or not.
Guy I sit next to at Arsenal knows Harvey Elliot's childhood best mate. They were in an academy together (not sure if QPR or Fulham), but Elliot, apparently, only ever wanted to play football. This other lad got into other "stuff" and has thrown it away. It's so infuriating because even if you don't make it to the very top, you can earn really good money in the lower leagues. Certainly better to anything else he's likely to do as a job.
The drop off down the leagues is pretty steep though, and the career is short. The idea of a benefit year was designed to set players up for the future once they were no longer playing.
A quick Google suggests League Two players are pushing £100k per year. Ten years of that and your set for life.
As long as you don't spend too much while you're working
Well quite. It’s not like footballers are known for their brains, is it? I mean a player with A levels is almost always known as ‘the professor’…
In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
Only for the good and the righteous and not for Champagne Socialist interlopers.
Anyway the PB faithful seem to want the festival banned for its support of Kneecap, its pro-Palestine, CND and woke green agendas. The good and true warriors of freedom of speech only want the right sort of freedom nof speech. Free Lucy Connolly!
"Disabled Labour MP says welfare U-turn would create ‘unethical two-tier system’ Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm"
Interesting quote from Nigel Farage in an interview with The Times:
“Those who try to demonise me could be in for a terrible shock once I’m gone. That’s why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system, to change things.”
He knows his Greek populism I guess. Or Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Watched 10 mins of Glastonbury earlier and quite enjoyed Ezra Collective. Played their biggest hit ‘God Gave me Feet For Dancing” and read that it was one of Barack Obama’s favourite songs… but it’s surely a massive rip off of ‘Get Lucky’ by Pharell Williams?
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take them.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
What about his other clubs ?
Did they also fail to do the same ?
Sounds to me like it’s excuse time.
I think he was also at the turning point of when football became very tactical. Having all the flashy skills isn't really as attractive as it used to be. If you know anything about the sort of systems Klopp or Pep try and pursue you have to be really switched on and very disciplined. They increasingly want players who have all the natural attributes in terms of pace, fitness, etc but a huge part of the game is now being able to be part of this very complex machine. And if you can't even do turn up for training, you have bugger all chance of understand the tactical system being taught.
I heard a great interview with a player who played under Biesla....they played virtually no actual football in training. It was tactics and fitness. They signed a player, Biesla said measure his body fat, too high, you don't train until you get it below x%. Finally gets it before x%, trains a bit but miles off the pace in turns of being able to follow the tactics, binned off.
I remember Wayne Larkins from the 1990/91 Ashes tour. He already looked about 45 on that time. RIP.
A typical decent county player who was shit when he played internationals
Graham Gooch rated him and thinks Larkins suffered by going on the first rebel tour.
Ironically it was the second rebel tour that allowed Larkins back in the team.
The Gooch was a terrific batsman but in Larkins case he never delivered. The Gooch may well have rated him, however A great player on paper is nothing if he never actually delivers when it matters.
Also his nickname, Ned. 🙄
Ravel Morrison waves....
I found out something about Ravel Morrison which reflects poorly on Manchester United, he was diagnosed with ADHD and was prescribed meds which would have helped him but because of anti-doping regulations he wasn't allowed to take them.
However he would have been able to take the meds if Manchester United had applied for an exemption but they didn't.
What about his other clubs ?
Did they also fail to do the same ?
Sounds to me like it’s excuse time.
I think he was also at the turning point of when football became very tactical. Having all the flashy skills isn't really as attractive as it used to be. If you know anything about the sort of systems Klopp or Pep try and pursue you have to be really switched on and very disciplined. They increasingly want players who have all the natural attributes in terms of pace, fitness, etc but a huge part of the game is now being able to be part of this very complex machine. And if you can't even do turn up for training, you have bugger all chance of understand the tactical system being taught.
I heard a great interview with a player who played under Biesla....they played virtually no actual football in training. It was tactics and fitness. They signed a player, Biesla said measure his body fat, too high, you don't train until you get it below x%. Finally gets it before x%, trains a bit but miles off the pace in turns of being able to follow the tactics, binned off.
Bielsa usually knows best to be fair.
Apparently he had this special 1km track build and every day you had to make the run under a certain time otherwise no training for you. He also had body fat tests on a regular basis and again you had to make the level set for you.
It sounded brutal.
Apparently the players worked out during murder ball if they whacked the ball miles of the pitch they would get a break. He realised really quickly what they were up to, so they bought a load more balls and had a team of people throwing the ball back in as soon as it exited the pitch.
There was another story. The player being interviewed got sent to Poland on loan, he thought well the manager won't be watching me, at best he will get a couple of highlights, apparently he would text him telling him all the good / bad things he had done during the whole game.
"Disabled Labour MP says welfare U-turn would create ‘unethical two-tier system’ Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm"
"Disabled Labour MP says welfare U-turn would create ‘unethical two-tier system’ Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm"
Interesting quote from Nigel Farage in an interview with The Times:
“Those who try to demonise me could be in for a terrible shock once I’m gone. That’s why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system, to change things.”
I suspect you and I define "interesting" somewhat differently.
In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
Only for the good and the righteous and not for Champagne Socialist interlopers.
Anyway the PB faithful seem to want the festival banned for its support of Kneecap, its pro-Palestine, CND and woke green agendas. The good and true warriors of freedom of speech only want the right sort of freedom nof speech. Free Lucy Connolly!
I'm cool with the hippies all going off to enrich the Eavis family for a weekend. Nicely played the organisers, it's amazing what idiots will spend to listen to washed up old has-beens whilst sat in a sea of mud. I suppose if you smoke enough dope, it's makes both the mud and the quality of the acts less noticeable.
I'm less impressed that for some reason the BBC gives it 24/7 coverage on every channel and radio station for a week. That's just the BBC giving out millions of pounds worth of free publicity in return for all their luvvies getting a weekend in the VIP mud.
After Starmer views on Glasto, Lisa Nady is wading in,
Lisa Nandy, the Culture Secretary, phoned Tim Davie, the BBC director-general, demanding that he explain why the performance by Bob Vylan, a rap duo, was shown live. A spokesman for Ms Nandy said: “We strongly condemn the threatening comments made by Bob Vylan at Glastonbury.
Normal PB perhaps, but not sure is normal for the general populous....
On Thursday afternoon, the Flightradar24 aircraft tracking website showed helicopters buzzing to and from the festival site. One air charter firm had been offering flights from London to the festival site for £13,950 return, with the 20-minute hop from Bath at £7,250.
In May, some well-heeled festivalgoers were left out of pocket when glamping company Yurtel, which had been selling £10,000 a head luxury packages including hot tubs, cocktail bars and a chauffeur service, went into administration. One off-site pop-up hotel charges the uber-wealthy as much as £38,000 for its top packages (any luxury camping offerings are run by external companies).
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The reality is it increasingly turning into Burning Man or Coachella.
In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
Only for the good and the righteous and not for Champagne Socialist interlopers.
Anyway the PB faithful seem to want the festival banned for its support of Kneecap, its pro-Palestine, CND and woke green agendas. The good and true warriors of freedom of speech only want the right sort of freedom nof speech. Free Lucy Connolly!
I'm cool with the hippies all going off to enrich the Eavis family for a weekend. Nicely played the organisers, it's amazing what idiots will spend to listen to washed up old has-beens whilst sat in a sea of mud. I suppose if you smoke enough dope, it's makes both the mud and the quality of the acts less noticeable.
I'm less impressed that for some reason the BBC gives it 24/7 coverage on every channel and radio station for a week. That's just the BBC giving out millions of pounds worth of free publicity in return for all their luvvies getting a weekend in the VIP mud.
Not too long until the Edinburgh Festival - the R4 equivalent.
A huge number of songs use a lot of samples. There is a drum beat from the I think the 50s that has been used in 1000s of songs.
The Power by Snap used half a dozen I think
As a saddo I have watched some videos breaking down some of Prodigy biggest tunes and they use a tonne of samples, but the genius is how they change them via changes to speed and pitch. The original music really isn't much like what you end up hearing, there is some serious "art" in taking these original samples and transforming them and combining them into what we remember.
How much the original creator should be paid is really hard question to answer.
A huge number of songs use a lot of samples. There is a drum beat from the I think the 50s that has been used in 1000s of songs.
The Power by Snap used half a dozen I think
As a saddo I have watched some videos breaking down some of Prodigy biggest tunes and they use a tonne of samples, but the genius is how they change them via changes to speed and pitch. The original music really isn't much like what you end up hearing, there is some serious art in taking these original samples and transforming them.
"The Orb" used to take great delight in messing about with samples until you couldn't be sued tell what they were originally. See also FSOL.
It turned out that the bassline of Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley (1987) was "borrowed" from Trapped by Colonel Abrams (1985). One of the earliest examples of sampling in a big commercial hit.
It turned out that the bassline of Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley (1987) was "borrowed" from Trapped by Colonel Abrams (1985). One of the earliest examples of sampling in a big commercial hit.
It’s rather typical of the Guardian/Observer set to think that Glastonbury is a microcosm of British society…
Kneecap got 5 stars from the Guardian.
Its all a bit tragic as they as a Temu version of RATM. They are willing them into stardom. Rather than RATM who played small gigs and backyard parties, and became massive because they were bloody good.
Hadn't realised Gary Numan had never played Galstonbury until today. Sounded great. His two guitarists were cool - looked like "what two White Walkers did on our holidays".
I hadn't realized you were a lesbian.
I just love women. I must be then.
Inside every straight man there's a lesbian wanting to get out and outside every lesbian there's a straight man wanting to get in.
"I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body." - E. Izzard.
He's not a lesbian trapped in a man's body, he's an attention-seeking pillock.
Does anyone ever use "pillock" outside the hallowed halls of PB anymore?
In Britain, we now jail the likes of Lucy Connolly for dumb, incendiary social media posts (that she deleted), but 1000s chant about killing people at a major music festival, live on our publicly funded broadcaster, and nobody seems to care. Outrageous double standard.
If you support one side in a war then you ipso facto support the death of enemy soldiers. I for one would like more Russian soldiers to die and do not see why I should not be able to express that opinion in public.
"Death to the IDF" to me falls under freedom of speech.
In any case, have we forgotten that pop singers are supposed to be provocative?
So the people at Glastonbury support Hamas?
Good to know.
Maybe they just don't support the way in which the IDF is waging the war.
Hamas is the only game in town, how else are Gazans supposed to defend themselves?
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Hamas started the war and took a load of hostages.
Indeed they did. But when opposing an unjustified attack you are not supposed to commit war crimes yourself. The actions of Hamas on 6 Oct are not justifications for the excessive actions of the IDF today.
Jonny Mao @JonnyMao__ Netanyahu has just stated that Glastonbury is days away from enriching uranium sufficient to build a nuclear bomb.
Glastonbury is certainly about enriching…
the Eavis family.
I thought blessed are the wealth creators/accumulators was the PB Tory creed?
Only for the good and the righteous and not for Champagne Socialist interlopers.
Anyway the PB faithful seem to want the festival banned for its support of Kneecap, its pro-Palestine, CND and woke green agendas. The good and true warriors of freedom of speech only want the right sort of freedom nof speech. Free Lucy Connolly!
I'm cool with the hippies all going off to enrich the Eavis family for a weekend. Nicely played the organisers, it's amazing what idiots will spend to listen to washed up old has-beens whilst sat in a sea of mud. I suppose if you smoke enough dope, it's makes both the mud and the quality of the acts less noticeable.
I'm less impressed that for some reason the BBC gives it 24/7 coverage on every channel and radio station for a week. That's just the BBC giving out millions of pounds worth of free publicity in return for all their luvvies getting a weekend in the VIP mud.
Not too long until the Edinburgh Festival - the R4 equivalent.
And the Proms - the R3 equivalent. Going downmarket somewhat, just like the channel.
"Inside Glastonbury's horrifying 'jail' for fence jumpers and drug dealers at iconic music festival
Glastonbury Festival is taking place this week as 210,000 music fans camp across more than 900 acres - but on site, there's a special 'jail' for anyone caught misbehaving or attempting to trespass"
"Inside Glastonbury's horrifying 'jail' for fence jumpers and drug dealers at iconic music festival
Glastonbury Festival is taking place this week as 210,000 music fans camp across more than 900 acres - but on site, there's a special 'jail' for anyone caught misbehaving or attempting to trespass"
I have really enjoyed watching the highlights of the Isle of Wight music festival, some great sets and it was the first time I had seen the Lightening Seeds performing in a long time.
Interesting quote from Nigel Farage in an interview with The Times:
“Those who try to demonise me could be in for a terrible shock once I’m gone. That’s why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system, to change things.”
He knows his Greek populism I guess. Or Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I have really enjoyed watching the highlights of the Isle of Wight music festival, some great sets and it was the first time I had seen the Lightening Seeds performing in a long time.
I didn't realise they'd restarted it. I know there was one in about 1970 and then it didn't happen for along time, unless I'm confusing it with something else.
But the blanket ban on e-scooters is to my mind a gross failure of regulation and flexibility. They are undoubtedly a brilliant, cost and energy-efficient way for people to whizz around our cities and towns, particularly given 25% of all journeys are less than a mile (70% less than 5). They don't take up much parking space, don't smash the roads to pieces and so on.
We need a new RTA and revision to the Highway Code to anticipate the scooter revolution.
ebikes, if we mean electrically-assisted bicycles, are fine imo. If by e-scooters you mean the ones that look like children's toys, they were briefly very popular round here but have since largely disappeared.
That's because they are illegal in the Uk - to the extent shops and online retailers don't sell them because they can't be used..
if that wasn't the case I would have one tomorrow to wizz around town on and I would probably visit town more often if I had one.
I doubt it. As I said, they used to be common round here, legal or not, but are rarely seen now. That suggests the people who used to whizz round on them decided they were impractical.
E-scooters are the new Segways. An attractive idea but flawed in practice.
What's wrong with them? There's clearly gigantic latent demand for them given the number of people who use them while being entirely illegal to do so.
The issue is the current rider. The kind of person who breaks the law on e-scooters is more likely to be doing the same elsewhere. If they were legal, it would the Rotary Club tending to the flowers with them.
I do not know what is wrong with e-scooters. I merely observe that the people who used to ride them have stopped. If you are right about latent demand, it must come from people who have no experience with them.
If you ask me to guess what is wrong, I'd suggest small wheels make for an uncomfortable ride, that standing is more tiring than sitting, and there is limited carrying capacity, but again, I do not know.
I have really enjoyed watching the highlights of the Isle of Wight music festival, some great sets and it was the first time I had seen the Lightening Seeds performing in a long time.
I didn't realise they'd restarted it. I know there was one in about 1970 and then it didn't happen for along time, unless I'm confusing it with something else.
The original few date from the Woodstock era (and were bigger than Woodstock), and were only semi-official, being organised informally on farm land. After the massive one, which was claimed to be the largest human gathering in history at the time, Parliament passed an Isle of Wight council act prohibiting large gatherings on the island without permission from the council, which killed the festivals off. They were revived about twenty five years ago, on the back of Glastonbury’s emergence as a large, successful event, hoping to capitalise on the folk memory of Hendrix and Dylan and those early 70s events, and it does seem to have worked. The festival is now a big event on the island (avoiding travelling anywhere on the opening and closing day is good advice for residents and anyone else on the island not visiting it).
And today’s Rawnsley, via what looks like another sunny morning in Oslo:
Welfare reform is rarely easy and especially neuralgic for Labour governments. Helping the needy and tackling poverty are the lodestars for many of the party’s MPs. This means that reform requires meticulous preparation, astute communication and smooth execution. We have instead been witnesses to a textbook example of panicky decision-making, maladroit messaging and terrible personnel management. Sir Keir is a busy man with limited appetite for spending diary space talking to backbenchers. He’s far from unique among prime ministers in feeling this way.
The government has tried to make the case that the cost of welfare is rising at an unsustainable pace and there is an imperative to get people into work. Some officials still insist that it would have got to a better place had it been more adept at selling that story. The trouble is that any fool could see that the prime driver was not a genuine desire to reform welfare but a frantic scrabble to make Rachel Reeves’s sums add up.
This revolt became the point of a sword of general discontent about how the government is run and some of the choices it has made. The chancellor and the chief of staff are lightning rods for discontent with the prime minister. All roads of responsibility ultimately lead back to Sir Keir himself.
There will be a price to pay for this demarche, and not just in the billions the government will now have to find elsewhere. If this is to be the transformative government Sir Keir claims he wants to lead, it has many contentious issues to grapple with in its second year, from reform of the immigration regime to the overhaul of the NHS. The Grand Old Duke of Downing Street has marched up the hill and then halfway back down again. In doing so, he has given his backbenchers a taste of blood. The next time there is a “tough decision” to make and he presents it as non-negotiable, he will find it that much more difficult to get the public, the financial markets or his own MPs to take him seriously.
"Inside Glastonbury's horrifying 'jail' for fence jumpers and drug dealers at iconic music festival
Glastonbury Festival is taking place this week as 210,000 music fans camp across more than 900 acres - but on site, there's a special 'jail' for anyone caught misbehaving or attempting to trespass"
F1: backed Alonso to score at 2.45. He's scored in the last two races and starts in 11th. Main concern is his engine. But if one goes then it's more likely to be someone ahead of him than the Spaniard himself.
I really missed a treat last night on here. Air travel anecdotes AND the Centrist Dad Eid al-Fitr of Glastonbury.
On topic... Meeksy is right. DJT is going to run in 2028 (and will probably win) but the bookies, like a lot of other people, are refusing to face that reality just as they refused to believe he'd run and win in 2024.
Wrapping up any money with 3 years is rarely if ever a good move unless you have infinite money. Even betting on winners of next seasons EPL isn't an attractive prospect, when you could make a lot more bets inbetween now and then.
What you can bet on is Starmer being awful. Surely the worst prime minister of our times
As I posted on the last thread, I’ve given up on Starmer. However he is better than his three predecessors, which tells you how bad those predecessors were.
Right now I have him below May in my list of post 1979 PMs.
1. Thatcher 2. Blair 3. Major 4. Cameron 5. Brown 6. May 7. Starmer (new entry) 8. Sunak 9. Johnson 10. Truss
Blair was better than Thatcher not least for going at a reasonable moment rather than being forced out in humiliation
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But by the time of the rebel tours the TCCB had better lawyers and the bans stayed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cz6g18dz2dpt
Always amuses me that when I now hear Are Friends Electric my mind goes to the Sugababes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSAGsiVSoeE&list=RDdSAGsiVSoeE&start_radio=1
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75rdryk63lo
'This one is for the Sugababes fans here'
I read somewhere he approved because he liked the song plus it allowed a new generation to discover Gary Numan.
It is now not unheard of for some to make millions by 21, not make it, be setup with a Division One or Two club, take one look at the facilities and go you are alright I don't need the money.
Interesting quote from Nigel Farage in an interview with The Times:
“Those who try to demonise me could be in for a terrible shock once I’m gone. That’s why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system, to change things.”
I don't think he mentioned the Jews in it. Perhaps I will have to re-read.
Anyway the PB faithful seem to want the festival banned for its support of Kneecap, its pro-Palestine, CND and woke green agendas. The good and true warriors of freedom of speech only want the right sort of freedom nof speech. Free Lucy Connolly!
Olivia Blake dismisses Starmer’s welfare bill changes as ‘plucked from the air’ and urges rebels to stand firm"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/28/disabled-labour-mp-olivia-blake-welfare-bill-u-turn-starmer
The thing about falling asleep watching the DVD and having 4 hours of this washing over you, so true.
If werewolf’s can run at 20 miles an hour, it can be howling at my door in two hours.
If I find I’m out of silver bullets, the sight of Charlie xcx twerking in leather panties should distract it long enough for me to saw it in half?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvesdlGe-EI
"SIMON PARK ORCHESTRA - "EYE LEVEL" *T*O*T*P*1973"
It sounded brutal.
Apparently the players worked out during murder ball if they whacked the ball miles of the pitch they would get a break. He realised really quickly what they were up to, so they bought a load more balls and had a team of people throwing the ball back in as soon as it exited the pitch.
There was another story. The player being interviewed got sent to Poland on loan, he thought well the manager won't be watching me, at best he will get a couple of highlights, apparently he would text him telling him all the good / bad things he had done during the whole game.
Keir Starmer: Infamy, infamy, they've all got in infamy.
Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got in for May
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/09/16/infamy-infamy-theyve-all-got-in-for-may/
"RFM: 31% (+1)
LAB: 25% (+1)
CON: 17% (-1)
LDM: 11% (-1)
GRN: 10% (+1)
SNP: 3% (=)
Via @opiniumresearch, 25-27 Jun.
Changes w/ 11-13 Jun."
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/1181/opinium?page=132
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where's_Your_Head_At
I'm less impressed that for some reason the BBC gives it 24/7 coverage on every channel and radio station for a week. That's just the BBC giving out millions of pounds worth of free publicity in return for all their luvvies getting a weekend in the VIP mud.
Lisa Nandy, the Culture Secretary, phoned Tim Davie, the BBC director-general, demanding that he explain why the performance by Bob Vylan, a rap duo, was shown live. A spokesman for Ms Nandy said: “We strongly condemn the threatening comments made by Bob Vylan at Glastonbury.
"All British life is at Glastonbury - except Nigel Farage...
Luke Turner"
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/all-british-life-is-at-glastonbury---except-nigel-farage
https://youtu.be/qae25976UgA?si=h1Nuu1YthqKpsWzn
On Thursday afternoon, the Flightradar24 aircraft tracking website showed helicopters buzzing to and from the festival site. One air charter firm had been offering flights from London to the festival site for £13,950 return, with the 20-minute hop from Bath at £7,250.
In May, some well-heeled festivalgoers were left out of pocket when glamping company Yurtel, which had been selling £10,000 a head luxury packages including hot tubs, cocktail bars and a chauffeur service, went into administration. One off-site pop-up hotel charges the uber-wealthy as much as £38,000 for its top packages (any luxury camping offerings are run by external companies).
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The reality is it increasingly turning into Burning Man or Coachella.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKxv_G9NROW/?igsh=NWU5cXo3cDJsdzNv
How much the original creator should be paid is really hard question to answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89CjsSOJ_c
Its all a bit tragic as they as a Temu version of RATM. They are willing them into stardom. Rather than RATM who played small gigs and backyard parties, and became massive because they were bloody good.
Maybe that shows that Glastonbury is more of an irrelevant relic than anything else?
After all, if it had been up to them, Jeremy Corbyn would currently be about to run for a third term as PM ...
I will start.
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals.
Second...Example, with live band.
Third...Frank Turner
Shockingly Mrs U is way cooler than me and a big leftie.
"The Traitors" Prom. Really?
"@DominikDiamond
Watching Pulp at Glastonbury and feeling sorry for anyone who wasn’t there for the 90s. What a time.
My God we were so blessed with culture.
We were all much happier.
And we all got on so much better."
https://x.com/DominikDiamond/status/1939023035043807380
Glastonbury Festival is taking place this week as 210,000 music fans camp across more than 900 acres - but on site, there's a special 'jail' for anyone caught misbehaving or attempting to trespass"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-glastonburys-horrifying-jail-fence-35442834
"Do not take gazebos"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-glastonburys-horrifying-jail-fence-35442834
"Mike Tapp MP
@MikeTappTweets
The Glastonbury festival reached new lows today. Depressing."
https://x.com/MikeTappTweets/status/1939012542720024867
If you ask me to guess what is wrong, I'd suggest small wheels make for an uncomfortable ride, that standing is more tiring than sitting, and there is limited carrying capacity, but again, I do not know.
Welfare reform is rarely easy and especially neuralgic for Labour governments. Helping the needy and tackling poverty are the lodestars for many of the party’s MPs. This means that reform requires meticulous preparation, astute communication and smooth execution. We have instead been witnesses to a textbook example of panicky decision-making, maladroit messaging and terrible personnel management. Sir Keir is a busy man with limited appetite for spending diary space talking to backbenchers. He’s far from unique among prime ministers in feeling this way.
The government has tried to make the case that the cost of welfare is rising at an unsustainable pace and there is an imperative to get people into work. Some officials still insist that it would have got to a better place had it been more adept at selling that story. The trouble is that any fool could see that the prime driver was not a genuine desire to reform welfare but a frantic scrabble to make Rachel Reeves’s sums add up.
This revolt became the point of a sword of general discontent about how the government is run and some of the choices it has made. The chancellor and the chief of staff are lightning rods for discontent with the prime minister. All roads of responsibility ultimately lead back to Sir Keir himself.
There will be a price to pay for this demarche, and not just in the billions the government will now have to find elsewhere. If this is to be the transformative government Sir Keir claims he wants to lead, it has many contentious issues to grapple with in its second year, from reform of the immigration regime to the overhaul of the NHS. The Grand Old Duke of Downing Street has marched up the hill and then halfway back down again. In doing so, he has given his backbenchers a taste of blood. The next time there is a “tough decision” to make and he presents it as non-negotiable, he will find it that much more difficult to get the public, the financial markets or his own MPs to take him seriously.
F1: ha. Backed Leclerc with a free bet for pole. But because it was on the Betfair exchange the 45 shot didn't come off, as it wasn't each way.
Oh well.
Betting PostF1: backed Alonso to score at 2.45. He's scored in the last two races and starts in 11th. Main concern is his engine. But if one goes then it's more likely to be someone ahead of him than the Spaniard himself.
https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2025/06/austrian-grand-prix-2025-pre-race.html
On topic... Meeksy is right. DJT is going to run in 2028 (and will probably win) but the bookies, like a lot of other people, are refusing to face that reality just as they refused to believe he'd run and win in 2024.