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Martin Baxter, the City mathematician who has been running Electoral Calculus for nearly two decades, has put out his latest monthly projection and once again there is a decline in the projected LAB majority.
A fairly small profit margin, but I was two from two on the betting front, so I can't complain.
Bahrain, I think will be good for Mercedes, Williams and Force India, and (relatively) bad for Red Bull. Could be wrong, though. That assumption is based on the many straights and the difficulty teams should have (noted during testing) with fuel in Bahrain.
It'll also (presumably) have the first dry qualifying of the season. If Williams can do better there, they stand an off-chance of a podium. Assuming the drivers don't hit each other.
On-topic: it'd be interesting if the Lib Dems polled so low, but it'd surprise me.
Last para: I think that that is right because much of the polling bias to LAB in the past was the product of polling methodology that has since been refined.
In a static world, I would agree, in a real and dynamic world new polling bias will infiltrate the system.
After two decades of analysing polling data, I’d imagine Mr Baxter has seen a lot of changes to polling methodology – I wonder if he looks back to the 90s and shudders.
O/T - glorious day here in south wilts - garden a little tidier than when I started..!
Dear Saddened, Goodness me, you are on the attack aren't you? I was merely observing that AV would have helped UKIP and they had the wit to support it. It would also have helped the Tories, but they didn't support it. Why do you suppose that means I would have been happy to impose it? Unpleasantly aggressive aren't you?
I didn't want AV anyway! Although it is not as bad as FPTP. But I have no wish to reopen past threads on AV. Who would want to live through them again?
It's amazing though that any projections still think their is a chance of a Tory majority. You cannot expect to win seats in which you don't campaign. The Tories rightly understand going for a majority would be a waste of resources. Hence why their resources are going into saving seats.
The only reason why Cameron even pretends he is aiming for a majority is because his members and the press are too stupid to see what a wasteful folly it would be.
Dear Saddened, Goodness me, you are on the attack aren't you? I was merely observing that AV would have helped UKIP and they had the wit to support it. It would also have helped the Tories, but they didn't support it. Why do you suppose that means I would have been happy to impose it? Unpleasantly aggressive aren't you?
If you consider that unpleasantly aggressive you really need to get out more. The reason I believe you would be happy to impose it is that your party has previous for making promises that you will run away from the very moment it becomes convenient for you to do so. Still support in out referendum on Europe for example?
Dear Saddened, Goodness me, you are on the attack aren't you? I was merely observing that AV would have helped UKIP and they had the wit to support it. It would also have helped the Tories, but they didn't support it. Why do you suppose that means I would have been happy to impose it? Unpleasantly aggressive aren't you?
So the Tories should have supported it out of pure opportunism?
Very much in line with Stehen Fisher's forecast in which he states that based on three historical tendencies, "all three suggest a Conservative recovery and a Labour set back from Autumn 2013"
If he's right then there's a great deal of money to be won in the betting markets.
I am impressed by the certainty which lots of people seem to have about an election which is not for another year, especially when that certainty is based on a simple projection of the opinion polling today.
What makes it particularly impressive is that, in typical elections (and not only in the UK), the lead a year out is a poor predictor of the lead on polling day. Swings of 5% to 10%, or even more, are common. Of the last five UK general elections, only in one case - 2005 - was the polling a year ahead close to the result on the day.
Out of interest Rod, what is your classical swing-back method, based on by-elections, currently predicting?
A 2% Labour lead (+/- 2%)...
That seems about right though it could be lower or even a LAB deficit.
As I pointed out after 2010, there is now an additional factor that cannot be accounted for by the swingback model. The TV debates...
Cameron seemed to have got a significant boost from them, taking the Tories further away (beneficially) from the swingback forecast. Maybe the Tories owed an additional 15-20 seats, including Nick Palmer's, to the debates.
I think the same will happen again, to an even greater degree. Cameron (and Clegg) will eat Miliband alive...
So, while the swingback model may move a little more in the Tories' favour before the election (assuming there are more byelections to come), it has lost quite a bit of its previous utility and accuracy, I suspect.
19:43 - Sad news from the commune of Vibrac in the region of Charente. Philippe Sauty, who was due to be sworn in as the mayor tonight committed suicide on Saturday, local media report....
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
The Tories are very long even in seats they need to be largest party. There were a few in particular that look like value but do your own research because Shadsy might be looking ;-)
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
Your self delusion is comical; of course the Tories will be aiming to gain some seats from Labour, probably the top 20 marginals.
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
The Tories are very long even in seats they need to be largest party. There were a few in particular that look like value but do your own research because Shadsy might be looking ;-)
Your lack of political campaigning knowledge is comical. If the Tories were targeting those seats you would see it and they wouldn't be openly directing less resources to them.
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
The Tories are very long even in seats they need to be largest party. There were a few in particular that look like value but do your own research because Shadsy might be looking ;-)
One particular area where Dr Fisher's forecast may be flagging up some value are the seemingly generous odds of 6/1 Ladbrokes are offering on the prospect of the Tories winning the most votes but Labour winning the most seats. There is every chance of this being the case were the Consevatives to win between 35% and 38.5% of the vote ...... a very distinct possibility and shorter than a 6/1 shot imho, but DYOR.
20:28 - According to L'Express website, the National Front candidate Julien Sanchez has declared himself victor in the town of Beaucaire in the Gard. Not confirmed yet. But that would be a third victory of the night for the National Front.
Your lack of political campaigning knowledge is comical. If the Tories were targeting those seats you would see it and they wouldn't be openly directing less resources to them.
Son, I fought and won my first (local) election in May 1979. Were you even born then?
I can definitely envisage a Tory vote lead but seats deficit. Surprised it's 8/1. Easteross suggested yesterday that if the Tories improve their vote share from last time they are home and dry. That's a serious mistake. Need to get yourself out of the 2 party mindset. It's quite possible that both Labour AND Tory vote shares will rise. It could be a question of which rises more.
20:43 - Le Pen claims the National Front have already won six or seven towns naming "Beaucaire, Villers-Coterêt , Cogolin, Hayange". Add Frejus and Beziers to those four, which were announced earlier on.
I fear you are still thinking elections are still like 1979. They're not.
Elections now require significant amounts of work on the ground targeting swing voters. You can't just win it on a swing anymore.
The Tories polled better in 2010 than the national swing, so they must haves been doing something right. Truth is you don't have a clue what we are doing. You're going to lose in 2015 and you know it . I' m breaking the news gently to you because I'm a compassionate Conservative.
20:46 - Certain people in the town Frejus are clearly not happy about the prospect of their town being run by the National Front. There are reports of around 100 people gathering outside the Town Hall shouting anti-FN slogans, insults etc. The situation is very tense according to witnesses.
20:35 - Reports of trouble in the town of Frejus, which was won by the National Front on Sunday. Youths hostile to the far right party have been in minor clashes with police. We'll keep you posted.
Look at the marginal polls. The Tories are not targeting the seats they need to win a majority. They are not going to waste resources trying to win seats they cannot. They will use all their resources to try and hold the ones they have.
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
The Tories are very long even in seats they need to be largest party. There were a few in particular that look like value but do your own research because Shadsy might be looking ;-)
One particular area where Dr Fisher's forecast may be flagging up some value are the seemingly generous odds of 6/1 Ladbrokes are offering on the prospect of the Tories winning the most votes but Labour winning the most seats. There is every chance of this being the case were the Consevatives to win between 35% and 38.5% of the vote ...... a very distinct possibility and shorter than a 6/1 shot imho, but DYOR.
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
Your self delusion is comical; of course the Tories will be aiming to gain some seats from Labour, probably the top 20 marginals.
According to this article - the Tories have a 40-40 strategy of 40 defences and 40 target gains
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Impossible to say, unless there are special factors at play. UNS will still give the broad shape of the overall result, but individual seats, especially near the swing boundary will undoubtedly buck the trend.
So the first question is: What will be the Lab or Con national lead on polling day 2015?
21:19 - Reports of more victories for the National Front coming in. Le Parisien claims the far right party has taken control of the town of Luc in the Var region. The extreme right candidate has also won the town of Camaret-sur-Aignes in the Vaucluse. It looks like the National Front has picked up at least nine towns so far. Not confirmed yet.
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
I'm not sure about the other constituencies to which you refer but from my own knowledge I'd say that in Dewsbury the Tories haven't a prayer - I think this is reflected in the bookies' odds where Labour were on offer at 1/10 the last time I looked.
Important thing for Labour is to get more seats next time than Tory/LD combined. They'll probably need about 40 gains off the Tories to do this. It's all very well Clegg sneering at the idea of a minority government, but what would he do? Try and bring about another election? We have fixed term parliaments. The nationalists currently have 12 MPs sitting in Westminster, I doubt they would bring down a Labour government. The DUP I don't know about.
I am not a Tory, but of those four I think Dewsbury the most likely to stay Tory. The other three have very substantial LD votes likely to be squeezed with Labour benefiting.
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Impossible to say, unless there are special factors at play. UNS will still give the broad shape of the overall result, but individual seats, especially near the swing boundary will undoubtedly buck the trend.
So the first question is: What will be the Lab or Con national lead on polling day 2015?
Not sure I know the answer yet...
Well those four are all around the most seats boundary so the Tories need to hold pretty much all of them even to cling on to a narrow seats lead. Seems people are less confident when asked about specific seats, which is interesting. Labour is a big favourite in all four of those.
I fear you are still thinking elections are still like 1979. They're not.
Elections now require significant amounts of work on the ground targeting swing voters. You can't just win it on a swing anymore.
The Tories polled better in 2010 than the national swing, so they must haves been doing something right. Truth is you don't have a clue what we are doing. You're going to lose in 2015 and you know it . I' m breaking the news gently to you because I'm a compassionate Conservative.
I fear you are still thinking elections are still like 1979. They're not.
Elections now require significant amounts of work on the ground targeting swing voters. You can't just win it on a swing anymore.
The Tories polled better in 2010 than the national swing, so they must haves been doing something right. Truth is you don't have a clue what we are doing. You're going to lose in 2015 and you know it . I' m breaking the news gently to you because I'm a compassionate Conservative.
Lots of money to be made if you can even cling on to a narrow seats lead - will you hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North? Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
I am not a Tory, but of those four I think Dewsbury the most likely to stay Tory. The other three have very substantial LD votes likely to be squeezed with Labour benefiting.
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Thanks Fox. That's useful. Any more for any more? Rod has been strangely vague - which is interesting indeed as the Tories pretty much need all four just to hold the narrowest of seat leads. Hmm.
Tories are unlikely to hold Hove and Northampton North because of the very high LD vote in those seats. Their chances are rather better in Dewsbury and Stroud.
Tories are unlikely to hold Hove and Northampton North because of the very high LD vote in those seats. Their chances are rather better in Dewsbury and Stroud.
I do not know the area well, but it is the sort of place an independent or respect candidate may stand and do well, cutting into the labour vote. There was also a big BNP vote in 2009, unlikely to go to Labour. Neither group looks likely to be enthusiastic for Millibandism. Even so it doesn't look easy to hold for the Tories.
I am not a Tory, but of those four I think Dewsbury the most likely to stay Tory. The other three have very substantial LD votes likely to be squeezed with Labour benefiting.
Looking down the list of seats, I'd be interested in whether our Conservative colleagues (and Rod Crosby) think they will hold Hove, Stroud, Dewsbury and Northampton North. Not a partisan question, more a financial inquiry...
Thanks Fox. That's useful. Any more for any more? Rod has been strangely vague - which is interesting indeed as the Tories pretty much need all four just to hold the narrowest of seat leads. Hmm.
Rod has been strangely vague - which is interesting indeed as the Tories pretty much need all four just to hold the narrowest of seat leads. Hmm.
Just being honest, and objective. I have zero knowledge of special factors in those seats.
Do you think the probability of them changing hands would be the same for say a Labour national lead of 2% versus a Tory lead of 5%?
The national swing will be the prime determinant. We need to get a handle on that first, to have a reasonable chance of predicting/guessing individual seats.
Rod has been strangely vague - which is interesting indeed as the Tories pretty much need all four just to hold the narrowest of seat leads. Hmm.
Just being honest, and objective. I have zero knowledge of special factors in those seats.
Do you think the probability of them changing hands would be the same for say a Labour national lead of 2% versus a Tory lead of 5%?
The national swing will be the prime determinant. We need to get a handle on that first, to have a reasonable chance of predicting/guessing individual seats.
Yes but you seem pretty sure of a Tory seat lead. What I am saying is that they need pretty much 3/4 of those even for the narrowest of seat leads.
I think your idea of Eastbourne is at least 20 years out of date. The time when it was widely regarded as God's waiting room are long past. The influx of Liverpudlians which started in the late 80s and the University of Brighton campus which opened in the 1990s and has grown ever since are just two of the reasons why the political nature of Eastbourne has changed. I doubt the Conservatives will ever get it back.
If the Tories win Hampstead & Kilburn they will only do it as part of a big overall election triumph. Barring that it will be a fairly comfortable Labour hold - 2,000-3,000 majority.
Wasn't implying that Andy had said that. Just asking for an answer. The point is is that the Tories aren't wasting their resources trying to win Exeter and Wakefield.
Only a numpty who doesn't understand how modern campaigning works expects a Tory majority. The best the Tories can hope for is largest party. They know this and that's what they are campaigning for.
My prediction for Hampstead at present would also be Labour by 2,000 to 3,000. But that's a much smaller swing than is probably going to occur in most London marginals.
If the Tories win Hampstead & Kilburn they will only do it as part of a big overall election triumph. Barring that it will be a fairly comfortable Labour hold - 2,000-3,000 majority.
I'm trying to find value on Tories Most Seats, as a covering bet in my portfolio. I'm scouring Laddy's for Tory marginals on the boundary line between LMS and CMS, to back the Tories, knocking out London or other generally urbanite leftie friendly places like Brighton. I'm not too keen, either, on seats with lots of 2010LDs or ones in the north. Once you do that, it's harder than it might first appear.
If the Tories win Hampstead & Kilburn they will only do it as part of a big overall election triumph. Barring that it will be a fairly comfortable Labour hold - 2,000-3,000 majority.
It could be an interesting night that one, depends on how much of a personal vote Glenda Jackson had.
Sometimes I find myself being very impressed by the Lib Dem Candidate, who probably outside of Northern Ireland has one of the more interesting back story of any candidate standing, what with his being a former member of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Wasn't implying that Andy had said that. Just asking for an answer. The point is is that the Tories aren't wasting their resources trying to win Exeter and Wakefield.
Only a numpty who doesn't understand how modern campaigning works expects a Tory majority. The best the Tories can hope for is largest party. They know this and that's what they are campaigning for.
Apologies. You can get astronomical odds on some of the seats just over the kind into COM country so presumably the Tory majority boosters will be putting the house and garden shed on with Shadsy?
Evening all and I always read with great interest those who seem to think because the Tory party membership is falling, somehow it means the party is dying. The party in London has adopted the Scottish model of moving beyond reliance on the typical constituency associations. We now have a growing number of supporters who help when they can and are needed but cant be bothered with committees etc. As we increasingly use open primaries for the selection of candidates in existing, marginal and winnable seats, the reliance on an increasingly elderly and detached group of people will diminish.
In no way do I seek to denigrate the work done over decades by loyal party members but generally younger people are simply not "joiners". They don't join round table, rotary or many of the other types of organisations which were popular.
In Scotland the party has built up a group of several thousand supporters who assist when they can and wish to. Hence at the last 14 council or parliamentary by-elections the Tory vote has risen, albeit in many cases from a low base. A recent appeal brought in over £250,000 from these supporters. It is a bit like the Obama model of large numbers of small amounts and lots of people giving short periods of assistance.
I keep in regular contact with the leading figures in CFS in Scotland and their growing numbers and enthusiasm is very encouraging. The membership in the university associations is once more growing and we have seen "hit squads" going to leaflet in no hope seats like the Kilmarnock ward the SNP defended last week and in which the Tory vote rose by 5%.
Stuart Dickson has quite rightly said there are signs on the ground of growing support in Scotland for the Tory party. For me what will be interesting is how much of the 2010 LibDem vote comes to the Tory party next year, given that almost all their seats were Tory held until 1987/1997.
We are fighting from a lamentably low base but I remember in 1992 the 11 seats we won in Scotland exactly amounted to John Major's 21 seat majority. Not in my wildest dreams do I think we will win 11 seats next year but each additional seat we do gain is one less we have to win in England. It might prove to be our parting present to our English colleagues to help deliver a Tory victory in 2015 at Westminster before we prepare to face the first Holyrood elections in an independent Scotland if the vote goes the way I fear it will in September.
I think your idea of Eastbourne is at least 20 years out of date. The time when it was widely regarded as God's waiting room are long past. The influx of Liverpudlians which started in the late 80s and the University of Brighton campus which opened in the 1990s and has grown ever since are just two of the reasons why the political nature of Eastbourne has changed. I doubt the Conservatives will ever get it back.
Any idea why it was particularly attractive to Scousers??
If the Tories win Hampstead & Kilburn they will only do it as part of a big overall election triumph. Barring that it will be a fairly comfortable Labour hold - 2,000-3,000 majority.
It could be an interesting night that one, depends on how much of a personal vote Glenda Jackson had.
Sometimes I find myself being very impressed by the Lib Dem Candidate, who probably outside of Northern Ireland has one of the more interesting back story of any candidate standing, what with his being a former member of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Perhaps Dan Hodges could do a blog on the seat.
Why my mum standing down spells disaster for Ed Miliband?
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F1: Malaysian post-race analysis is up here:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/malaysia-post-race-analysis.html
A fairly small profit margin, but I was two from two on the betting front, so I can't complain.
Bahrain, I think will be good for Mercedes, Williams and Force India, and (relatively) bad for Red Bull. Could be wrong, though. That assumption is based on the many straights and the difficulty teams should have (noted during testing) with fuel in Bahrain.
It'll also (presumably) have the first dry qualifying of the season. If Williams can do better there, they stand an off-chance of a podium. Assuming the drivers don't hit each other.
On-topic: it'd be interesting if the Lib Dems polled so low, but it'd surprise me.
In a static world, I would agree, in a real and dynamic world new polling bias will infiltrate the system.
But at least trying to catch up with the better predictors, like L&N, swingback, etc..
Bayrou gains Pau
UMP should gain Reims et Quimper.
FN takes Bezier easily. Socialists pulls ahead in Avignon
O/T - glorious day here in south wilts - garden a little tidier than when I started..!
At least UKIP had the nous to support AV, unlike the Tories.
Goodness me, you are on the attack aren't you? I was merely observing that AV would have helped UKIP and they had the wit to support it. It would also have helped the Tories, but they didn't support it.
Why do you suppose that means I would have been happy to impose it? Unpleasantly aggressive aren't you?
But I have no wish to reopen past threads on AV. Who would want to live through them again?
Unparalleled in the history of the universe and never knowingly undersold the nation awaits my ARSE like no other.
Beware of pale imitations.
It's amazing though that any projections still think their is a chance of a Tory majority. You cannot expect to win seats in which you don't campaign. The Tories rightly understand going for a majority would be a waste of resources. Hence why their resources are going into saving seats.
It's the hope that kills you....
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Say no more, say no more.
If he's right then there's a great deal of money to be won in the betting markets.
What makes it particularly impressive is that, in typical elections (and not only in the UK), the lead a year out is a poor predictor of the lead on polling day. Swings of 5% to 10%, or even more, are common. Of the last five UK general elections, only in one case - 2005 - was the polling a year ahead close to the result on the day.
Here's another reason you should appreciate Tim Sherwood
Ruud Gullit has revealed that Tim Sherwood turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez when the striker was at Ajax.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2591872/Tim-Sherwood-blew-chance-bringing-Luis-Suarez-Spurs-reveals-Ruud-Gullit.html
Cameron seemed to have got a significant boost from them, taking the Tories further away (beneficially) from the swingback forecast. Maybe the Tories owed an additional 15-20 seats, including Nick Palmer's, to the debates.
I think the same will happen again, to an even greater degree. Cameron (and Clegg) will eat Miliband alive...
So, while the swingback model may move a little more in the Tories' favour before the election (assuming there are more byelections to come), it has lost quite a bit of its previous utility and accuracy, I suspect.
TNS projection for Avignon
PS-EELV-FDG Helle 46,5%; FN Lottiaux 35,3%; UMP Chaussegros 18,2%
Estimation BEZIERS : FN Ménard 47,2% ; UMP Aboud 34,7% ; DVG Du Plaa 18,1%
Estimation REIMS : UMP-UDI-MoDem Robinet 46,5% ; PS-PC-PRG-EELV Hazan 42,3% ; FN Paris 11,2%
Estimation FREJUS : FN Rachline 44,4%; UMP-UDI Mougin 30,6% ; DVD Brun 25%
Again all these projections dont take into account the Tories aren't even trying for a majority. Cameron isn't stupid enough to expect to gain seats off Labour.
The Tory campaign strategy is all aimed at being the largest party.
Average of the last 20 polls:
Lab 37.1%
Con 33.7%
UKIP 12.0%
LD 9.5%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Poll_results
Your lack of political campaigning knowledge is comical. If the Tories were targeting those seats you would see it and they wouldn't be openly directing less resources to them.
What seat marks the borderline between Tories most seats and Labour most seats? I'm guessing it's something like Stroud or Hove? http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/orderedseats.html
I fear you are still thinking elections are still like 1979. They're not.
Elections now require significant amounts of work on the ground targeting swing voters. You can't just win it on a swing anymore.
Looks like the right has won Reims and Angers so far, the FN has won Frejus and Beziers, Bayrou Pau and the left is holding on in Avingon. Any news from Paris?
More coverage here
http://videos.tf1.fr/infos/2014/second-tour-des-municipales-les-premieres-estimations-ville-8391904.html
20:35 - Reports of trouble in the town of Frejus, which was won by the National Front on Sunday. Youths hostile to the far right party have been in minor clashes with police. We'll keep you posted.
http://www.thelocal.fr/20140330/live-french-elections-local-france
That would mean Spurs v Liverpool this season = 0-9 and -2 managers post the result...
Nice pattern...
Look at the marginal polls. The Tories are not targeting the seats they need to win a majority. They are not going to waste resources trying to win seats they cannot. They will use all their resources to try and hold the ones they have.
PS projected to hold Strasbourg and Metz
Martine Aubry reelected in Lille
Greens take Grenoble from PS
PS projected to have won Paris with 54.5%
Rod And did all of those protestors bother to vote today?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9601673/Tories-plan-outright-majority-with-new-40-40-campaign.html
So the first question is: What will be the Lab or Con national lead on polling day 2015?
Not sure I know the answer yet...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dEk1TlVqMHhNUXFBWlhSNU1hd0FYSHc#gid=0
have a look at the seats The Tories need to win a John O majority. Say a majority of 40.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/live-femen-shows-up-in-turkish-pm-erdogans-constituency-on-election-day.aspx?pageID=238&nID=64283&NewsCatID=338
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/election2014/election.html
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dDRiT1FSRTF2bjVYRThSTnRaNzFXMlE#gid=0
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Which seats are the Tories goig to gain to win a majority?
Do you think the probability of them changing hands would be the same for say a Labour national lead of 2% versus a Tory lead of 5%?
The national swing will be the prime determinant. We need to get a handle on that first, to have a reasonable chance of predicting/guessing individual seats.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dE0wZTMyZW1nYko1TE15MDVJVF8zYXc#gid=0
Eastbourne borough:
LD: 8,428
Con: 6,991
UKIP: 6,431
Lab: 2,380
Green: 366
Others: 48
Wasn't implying that Andy had said that. Just asking for an answer. The point is is that the Tories aren't wasting their resources trying to win Exeter and Wakefield.
Only a numpty who doesn't understand how modern campaigning works expects a Tory majority. The best the Tories can hope for is largest party. They know this and that's what they are campaigning for.
Sometimes I find myself being very impressed by the Lib Dem Candidate, who probably outside of Northern Ireland has one of the more interesting back story of any candidate standing, what with his being a former member of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Perhaps Dan Hodges could do a blog on the seat.
You can get astronomical odds on some of the seats just over the kind into COM country so presumably the Tory majority boosters will be putting the house and garden shed on with Shadsy?
In no way do I seek to denigrate the work done over decades by loyal party members but generally younger people are simply not "joiners". They don't join round table, rotary or many of the other types of organisations which were popular.
In Scotland the party has built up a group of several thousand supporters who assist when they can and wish to. Hence at the last 14 council or parliamentary by-elections the Tory vote has risen, albeit in many cases from a low base. A recent appeal brought in over £250,000 from these supporters. It is a bit like the Obama model of large numbers of small amounts and lots of people giving short periods of assistance.
I keep in regular contact with the leading figures in CFS in Scotland and their growing numbers and enthusiasm is very encouraging. The membership in the university associations is once more growing and we have seen "hit squads" going to leaflet in no hope seats like the Kilmarnock ward the SNP defended last week and in which the Tory vote rose by 5%.
Stuart Dickson has quite rightly said there are signs on the ground of growing support in Scotland for the Tory party. For me what will be interesting is how much of the 2010 LibDem vote comes to the Tory party next year, given that almost all their seats were Tory held until 1987/1997.
We are fighting from a lamentably low base but I remember in 1992 the 11 seats we won in Scotland exactly amounted to John Major's 21 seat majority. Not in my wildest dreams do I think we will win 11 seats next year but each additional seat we do gain is one less we have to win in England. It might prove to be our parting present to our English colleagues to help deliver a Tory victory in 2015 at Westminster before we prepare to face the first Holyrood elections in an independent Scotland if the vote goes the way I fear it will in September.
If the rumours of Tim Sherwood punching a player are true, that's terrible. It's not like they can defend themselves.