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Winning the argument vs the other lot being useless – politicalbetting.com
Winning the argument vs the other lot being useless – politicalbetting.com
Reform's growth is changing the nature of its support While Reform 2024 voters are more like to say they back the party on policies & leadership – their new voters are less ideologically motivated to them & more likely to say Reform support is because of dislike of other parties
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It’s also broken windows theory in action. With every shoplift tolerated, every ticket easily dodged, every tag of graffiti met with a shrug, the social contract frays. The law abiding citizens ask themselves - why the fuck am I paying? Am I the sucker here?
Ditto dodgy asylum seekers in 4 star hotels as honest people spend years trying to get the right to remain
Meanwhile tax payers are quietly enraged, and very high taxpayers simply leave
This is the frog boiling of an entire nation and it will end with a reform government and then something worse if we don’t change course
They weren't asked "why do YOU back reform" in the first couple of questions, they were asked "why do PEOPLE back Reform".
That's different, and elided in parts of the analysis.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reciprocal-agreements/reciprocal-agreements
"Chile, Japan and South Korea only cover social security contribution liability and do not include benefits. These are known as Double Contribution Conventions."
Three years to bring all of that down to zero and one year to bring it below zero so that people who arrive are less than people who are deported or have their low wage visa revoked.
eg @Eabhal on the last thread
“It’s funny watching you guys getting excited by this”
Like we’re indulging some far right fantasy for kicks, rather than personally witnessing basic law and order crumbling on the high street
I fucking despair of this country. And it's filled with people doing wank jobs like this and making others far harder.
I fucking despair of this country. And it's filled with people doing wank jobs like this and making others far harder.
Neither of them admit they were anywhere near the tree and neither has any idea of what each other might have been doing that night.
In a way it's hilarious.
What? That can’t be right. Other polling shows a large majority of Brits want lower immigration
eg “A YouGov survey from February 2025 found that 70% of Britons believe immigration over the past decade has been too high, with 50% describing it as “much too high” “
😢
They don't have to fucking do it, and they get paid for waving the stick.
Farage has to beware though as the new voters who have taken his party from 14% last year to 20-30% now are not as hard right and do not like Tommy Robinson or Trump like the Reform core vote
They don't have to fucking do it, and they get paid for waving the stick and precisely zero credit for making your life easier.
We even had @Stereodog yesterday saying he'd rather have Nigel Farage than Labour move one inch on the migration issue.
Well, then he'll get Nigel Farage.
Immigration is not the story, or not the whole story. PBers arguing about small boats vs the Boriswave, or asylum seekers vs illegal immigrants, are getting hung up on the precise number on the side of a bus. It matters a bit but it's not really the point.
Luke Tryl/MiC: their new voters are less ideologically motivated to them & more likely to say Reform support is because of dislike of other parties
https://bsky.app/profile/luketryl.bsky.social/post/3loistkxdcs2f
‘Dislike of other parties’ is pollster-speak for NOTA. Reform is NOTA.
If they don't, then they'll win instead.
I assume Elon Musk is at a lower starting point than Trump because of his woke views on climate change
The polling IN THE THREADER shows that 66% of reform voters are voting reform explicitly because of immigration
So, yes, immigration is the story
"What Reform gets wrong about Britain
The electorate is remarkably moderate
Chris Clarke"
https://unherd.com/2025/05/what-reform-gets-wrong-about-britain/
Yet you are still allowed to post nonsense unchallenged. What next? Quoting Andrew Tate's X account as source material. Oh wait, apologies, that was Nigel Farage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgp22d2kexo
If Britain is to reverse its decline relative to the United States, this is an area that needs to be addressed. I've done my bit by ordering lunch.
Wheels for Wellbeing's submission on the Pedestrianisation of Oxford Street.
No-one will agree with all of it (I do with perhaps 85%), but it's an example of the many different things that need to be considered. The division of mobility aids into lower speed (ie walking pace such as Class 1/2 Mobility Scooters, cycles in "walking" mode) and higher speed (eg Class 3 scooters when doing 8mph on the carriageway or mobility track, e-cycles, power wheelchairs depending on spec) is interesting, and how the latter are seen as an accessible alternative to a partly accessible public transport system in London.
https://wheelsforwellbeing.org.uk/oxford-street-transformation-consultation-wfw-response/
Their assessment of "Two Stage Right Turns" for tricycles and larger mobility aids, and how they handle different eg tricycles can't lean to cut corners. A two stage turn is where there is a painted spot at the left hand facing corner for waiting until the lights change to be the other way, when they can proceed, rather than waiting in the middle of the junction. They are used in Denmark, whilst the Netherlands tend to a separate track or an "all green at once" phase where these users can go anywhere, including diagonally, and the motor vehicles are just stopped.
https://wheelsforwellbeing.org.uk/wheels-for-wellbeing-guide-to-two-stage-turns/
Maybe that will be cathartic for me.
There used to be a contract between agriculture and the wider public. No more as long as this most evil government since 1685 marches on to its own eventual unlamented end.
This money will have to be recovered, probably from the pension pots of former Labour front benchers. It is malfeasance in public office.
It is theft.
"Unfortunately, this change of heart is far too late for the millions of pensioners who lost their payment this winter. Thousands of the the most vulnerable missed out and hospital admissions soared."
I wasn't aware that hospital admissions 'soared'; did they?
"NEWT HREAD"
Do you know that the newt used to be the ewt. Over time the 'An ewt' migrated to become 'A newt'. The slippery adder had the reverse, it was once 'a nadder'.
So you're in good company.
This is what my autocorrect thinks I mean most of the time.
Our analysis shows the health service performing far worse than before the pandemic and reporting record or near-record levels of operational problems across urgent and emergency care. Ahead of the government’s forthcoming Urgent and Emergency Care Plan, this raises key questions about what might be behind some of the underlying issues contributing to what has now become an annual winter crisis.
https://www.health.org.uk/reports-and-analysis/analysis/did-the-nhs-experience-record-pressures-this-winter
Deluded, doesn't begin to capture it.
" "this government has hit the ground running on social care," said Stephen Kinnock, minister of state for care."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zpwx74e6o
Abolishing a tax break that didn't even exist a few decades ago is theft and evil on a level not seen since 1685? Hyperbole much?
Taxes should be low, consistent and equally applied to all. If the tax should be abolished, it should be abolished for all. If it should be levied, it should be levied on all, including farmers.
Seems Badenoch and the Lib Dems are distinctly unhappy and if true, goodness knows what Farage will say
https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1919775482167361715?t=o06IkR3woHnneSqyBRitvA&s=19
(It might have been a Poldark book?)
I've a lot of sympathy for those for whom it was 'highly desirable' and particularly for those for whom it was 'essential' and hope that for the winter 2025-6 a scheme can be devised that leaves us out but covers those less fortunate.
That's b/s, but it's the way various people are playing it.
https://www.ft.com/content/b518a33e-97e1-4bf6-844e-69acf2f5f2b7
It was quite a big one. An actual by election, several mayoralties, lots of councils
Think of it as a MASSIVE opinion poll. With about ten million people being asked their opinions. And the result? Reform are the most popular party in the UK/England by a distance, on 30% of the vote, with Labour and the Tories down at 20% and 15%
Britain is now, politically, rather Reform-y. Reform are the most popular party in Britain. On a website devoted to politics, esp British politics, you would expect the commentary to reflect that, and it does
PB is not a safe space for liberals it is a forum for opinions from left and right. There would be something sadly WRONG if PB was NOT reflecting the Reform-y state of the nation
You're too dumb to see it.
This may have been punted because we are about to agree something on carbon with the EU.
There's almost two dozen of them on here.
I mean, FUCK ME.
How dumb do you have to be?!
"You;re not paying to put asylum seekers in 4 star hotels! With Labour you're paying to put asylum seekers in hotels that WERE 4 star but the breakfast buffet is seriously reduced partly to house all the private dentists looking after the teeth of these young foreign men who shouldn't be here, you're paying for that instead"
Reform won't know what's hit them. They'll probably lose all their deposits and poll 0.7% as the public realise the truth
Actually, pb is probably more representative of the middle class voting population - which perhaps explains the discrepancy.
But this is how people are driven to Trump and Farage. Absolute vanity, pompousity and arrogance and absolutely refusing to listen or compromise.
We've lost the art of engaging as a democracy, so people are just driven to make a very binary choice.
Look at this one. It's a modern four star hotel that was refurbished in 2022: https://www.marriott.com/en-gb/hotels/bhxwd-delta-hotels-warwick/overview/
It's currently unavailable to book and closed to the public because it's being used to house male asylum seekers under a government contract.
Rather than question the silo where they have placed themselves, the answer grasped is the next thing being fed into the silo.
If the Starmer Government cut immigration by 2/3 and NHS waiting lists by 1/2, there are those who rather than saying "good, progress", will pivot to "the globalists / uniparty / Liebour / LibLabCon would never do this; Starmer is an even bigger liar than we thought he was", or another line.
That's imo just how fringe factions sometimes roll. It's also why imo "delivery" will not be enough to defeat Farage and Reform - it's necessary, but not sufficient. There's also an ideological battle to fight.
It's actually increased by 1.36x. A significant increase, but let's not get carried away. Overall theft is down 2%.
1) Ruled out a reversal of his single most electorally costly policy.
2) Allowed Indians to undercut UK workers with his Modi deal.
Economically they're both fine but politically disastrous.
So, yes: to that extent it is true, they are no longer 4 star hotels, as we know them. And, again, I wish you the best of British luck as you campaign on this crucial distinction