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Irish General Election Predictions [Part 1/2] C & D Constituencies – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,212
edited December 3 in General
imageIrish General Election Predictions [Part 1/2] C & D Constituencies – politicalbetting.com

With only a few days to the election, I wanted to share some insight to the upcoming Irish Election.

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  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    First. Nothing to add on the header as I know nothing about Ireland...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198
    Ah, excellent and then you for doing this. I can now pretend to be informed about Irish politics, and to have done the reading, at work.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Hopefully they don't find the Orford Ness lighthouse again...
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720
    edited November 26

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Hopefully they don't find the Orford Ness lighthouse again...
    Lol.

    I think it is turned off now, so Rendlesham Forest will remain undisturbed.

    [Edit: actually demolished, it seems]
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,932

    First. Nothing to add on the header as I know nothing about Ireland...

    I believe it is just off our west coast, but happy to be proved wrong.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,433

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
    In the past, Russia have used both their own agents to foment troubles (e.g. Litvinenko, Salisbury), and also used nationals for the same end. So pay a criminal gang to do something; provide arms to terrorists, or encourage a few misguided souls that it'd be fun to cause problems at a military base.

    They don't need to send Natasha Nogoodnik and Boris Badenov in to cause trouble.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198
    kjh said:

    First. Nothing to add on the header as I know nothing about Ireland...

    I believe it is just off our west coast, but happy to be proved wrong.
    No, that one is definitely one of the British Isles. Must be somewhere else.

    Let me know when it’s safe to come back….
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,694
    kjh said:

    First. Nothing to add on the header as I know nothing about Ireland...

    I believe it is just off our west coast, but happy to be proved wrong.
    Do you mean the Isle of Man? Or Ynys Mon?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Strongly hinting that it is the Russians, there
  • Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 26
    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    edited November 26

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
    For some reason this reminds me of the time, under New Labour, that they attempted to go after plane spotters at RAF bases.

    Apparently, someone in the civil service or politics noticed that the plane spotters hang out at various RAF bases. Even worse, the RAF didn’t chase them away. Security!

    The RAF response was these people were patriotic if a bit odd sometimes. Plus they *helped* with security. They were very observant and all knew each other - if someone tried to pretend to be a plane spotter they would out him in seconds. So free watchmen with big cameras…
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
    For some reason this reminds me of the time, under New Labour, that they attempted to go after plane spotters at RAF bases.

    Apparently, someone in the civil service or politics noticed that the plane spotters hang out at various RAF bases. Even worse, the RAF didn’t chase them away. Security!

    The RAF response was these people were patriotic if a bit odd sometimes. Plus they *helped* with security. They were very observant and all knew each other - if someone tried to pretend to be a plane spotter they would out him in seconds. So free watchmen with big cameras…
    Afaicr it was the Greeks that arrested the British plane spotters. So them being patriotic wouldn't have been seen as a good defence.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    On Cork North-West, Michael Creed is not the same Michael Creed, the sitting TD who first won the seat in 1989, but, I believe, the nephew of the sitting TD. Which makes a change from direct descent I suppose.

    In Cork South-West the incumbent TD you have losing his seat, Christopher O'Sullivan (FF), was first to get his posters up, seemingly intent on fighting hard to hold the seat. But he's not been round to canvass yet.

    We had a couple of representatives for Noel O'Donovan - whose Dad had the O'Reilly Centra in Dunmanway, it was important for us to know, as it also was that one of the canvassers now claims a distant family relationship.

    The local Fine Gael party are apparently very enthusiastically behind Noel O'Donovan - he's received the blessing of Jim Daly (FG TD from 2011-2020) - and after the mess last time when party HQ imposed a candidate the local party didn't like then I'd concur that he has a great chance of winning back the seat. But will the pregnant leader of the SocDems hold on? She only sneaked over the line with huge numbers of transfers from SF last time, and she's now 4 days past her due date - could make all the difference in a close election.
  • I wonder if China are still sending up their "weather balloons" that have terrible failure rate in their control systems, that just happen to result in them floating over sensitive military areas?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082

    British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
    For some reason this reminds me of the time, under New Labour, that they attempted to go after plane spotters at RAF bases.

    Apparently, someone in the civil service or politics noticed that the plane spotters hang out at various RAF bases. Even worse, the RAF didn’t chase them away. Security!

    The RAF response was these people were patriotic if a bit odd sometimes. Plus they *helped* with security. They were very observant and all knew each other - if someone tried to pretend to be a plane spotter they would out him in seconds. So free watchmen with big cameras…
    Afaicr it was the Greeks that arrested the British plane spotters. So them being patriotic wouldn't have been seen as a good defence.
    That was a different thing.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Well the fire regs have a max capacity.

    If you invite several million @SeanT in for a G&T then that will be a epic breach.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,378
    @TheGreenMachine , thank you. Id forgotten it was so close, I was so caught up in assisted dying I forgot all about it. Will SF pull it back after such a dramatic decline, or will FF/FG do it again? Exciting
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    I believe one PBer recently applied for membership

    😇
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720
    edited November 26

    I wonder if China are still sending up their "weather balloons" that have terrible failure rate in their control systems, that just happen to result in them floating over sensitive military areas?

    Perhaps those accidental fly-aways that DJI drones have are the Chinese government taking control?

    An accidental fly-away over a sensitive airbase? Oops.


    I'm surprised they aren't banned like Huawei yet. I only use their software in a sandbox, although there's no particular reason to be paranoid.

    I believe a ban might be coming in the US, but that's probably more a commercial thing, as they completely dominate the market.
  • Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Serving pineapple on pizza.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    edited November 26
    In general I would be a bit more bearish on Green Party prospects. They might only get half the votes compared to last time, and they're one of the parties that are attracting the most ire. From the latest Ipsos poll.
    The Greens are an unwelcome for them second on this question, 17% not wanting to see them in coalition, which compared badly to the 2% for Labour (the memories of Labour's participation in the 2011-16 coalition have clearly faded).

    The result on this is quite interesting. All the parties have seen their scores decrease (since the prior poll just before the campaign started), indicating a decrease in partisanship during the election campaign, which is a bit of a difference to results seen elsewhere.

    Also, there remains a very chunky percentage who do not want to see Sinn Fein let anywhere near government.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,378

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    They found out @rcs1000 was thinking of joining. They were worried he would talk about subsamples. They closed it down pre-emptively whilst he fled to Japan. :)
  • Get your wokeometers out!


  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 26

    I wonder if China are still sending up their "weather balloons" that have terrible failure rate in their control systems, that just happen to result in them floating over sensitive military areas?

    Perhaps those accidental fly-aways that DJI drones have are the Chinese government taking control?

    An accidental fly-away over a sensitive airbase? Oops.


    I'm surprised they aren't banned like Huawei yet. I only use their software in a sandbox, although there's no particular reason to be paranoid.

    I believe a ban might be coming in the US, but that's probably more a commercial thing, as they completely dominate the market.
    The US have totally messed up on drone tech. They were way ahead of the game and in some ways still are, but the academic research was focused on the wrong applications. Its normally the UK that f##ks things up like that.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198

    Get your wokeometers out!


    The trouble is that the suffragette line just won’t do what the signallers tell it to.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720
    edited November 26

    I wonder if China are still sending up their "weather balloons" that have terrible failure rate in their control systems, that just happen to result in them floating over sensitive military areas?

    Perhaps those accidental fly-aways that DJI drones have are the Chinese government taking control?

    An accidental fly-away over a sensitive airbase? Oops.


    I'm surprised they aren't banned like Huawei yet. I only use their software in a sandbox, although there's no particular reason to be paranoid.

    I believe a ban might be coming in the US, but that's probably more a commercial thing, as they completely dominate the market.
    The US have totally messed up on drone tech. They were way ahead of the game and in some ways still are, but the academic research was focused on the wrong applications. Its normally the UK that f##ks things up like that.
    Yes. They aimed at the high end for police / military / expensive commercial operations because that's the market where they could charge $$$.

    Completely forgetting that they are essentially just a camera and the market for cameras is a million times bigger.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,143

    Get your wokeometers out!


    Three of the most travelled lines named to celebrate just one very posh family, imagine that!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934
    Very infrequent visitor to the Groucho Club, but last time I was there one of our party said he was waiting for a thank you present from a client for a job well done. And good as their word, a Chinese hooker turned up for him...
  • biggles said:

    Ah, excellent and then you for doing this. I can now pretend to be informed about Irish politics, and to have done the reading, at work.

    Glad you like it. I generally post articles close to our elections.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 620
    Do William Hill allow accumulators on this? If not seems difficult to see where there's any value...
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312

    Get your wokeometers out!


    I still think that one should have been the Goblin Line, it already had a name.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 620
    Betfair have 2 markets, most seats and taoiseach. FF and MM favourites respectively.
  • viewcode said:

    @TheGreenMachine , thank you. Id forgotten it was so close, I was so caught up in assisted dying I forgot all about it. Will SF pull it back after such a dramatic decline, or will FF/FG do it again? Exciting

    Even if SF got the most TDs, they will struggle to make the required majority quota. The majority of parties dislike them.

    In saying that, If you can get SF @ the 11/2 mark, it is worth £20 stake.

    FF, FG and Ind should be the new Govt.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Have they said hurty words on twitter ?

    The Groucho not our marvellous members.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    edited November 26

    Very infrequent visitor to the Groucho Club, but last time I was there one of our party said he was waiting for a thank you present from a client for a job well done. And good as their word, a Chinese hooker turned up for him...

    "This is my Club, and if you don't like it, well, I have others!"
  • biggles said:

    Ah, excellent and then you for doing this. I can now pretend to be informed about Irish politics, and to have done the reading, at work.

    Glad you like it. I generally post articles close to our elections.
    Part II should go up in the morning (events permitting.)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    kjh said:

    First. Nothing to add on the header as I know nothing about Ireland...

    I believe it is just off our west coast, but happy to be proved wrong.
    Do you mean the Isle of Man? Or Ynys Mon?
    I think he means Hilbre.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    Latest Irish poll has FF now ahead on 21% with the Irish PM's party FG now third on 19% just behind second placed SF on 20%
    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/11/25/irish-times-poll-fine-gael-support-slumps-as-general-election-campaign-enters-final-stretch/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    Yup, 'The owner of Vauxhall has announced plans to close its van-making factory in Luton, putting about 1,100 jobs at risk.

    Stellantis, which also owns brands including Citroen, Peugeot and Fiat, said it would combine its electric van production at its other UK plant in Ellesmere Port.

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    It comes amid growing concerns among car manufacturers over EV sales targets, with many, including Stellantis, calling for the government to do more to boost consumer demand.'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8n3n62wq4o
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972
    HYUFD said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    Yup, 'The owner of Vauxhall has announced plans to close its van-making factory in Luton, putting about 1,100 jobs at risk.

    Stellantis, which also owns brands including Citroen, Peugeot and Fiat, said it would combine its electric van production at its other UK plant in Ellesmere Port.

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    It comes amid growing concerns among car manufacturers over EV sales targets, with many, including Stellantis, calling for the government to do more to boost consumer demand.'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8n3n62wq4o
    The best they can hope for is tariffs on imports.
  • Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    Is Trudeau's party going to come third?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    edited November 26
    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    Though polls from Nanos have them on 41% and EKOS on 38%. So a wide range from landslide Conservative win to most seats in a hung parliament.

    Polievre has promised to focus on attracting more investment and higher wages to Canada while also matching US tariffs on Chinese EVs

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-electric-vehicle-tariffs-1.7290108
    https://globalnews.ca/video/10873210/fight-fire-with-fire-poilievre-vows-to-counter-trump-economic-policies-u-s-tariffs-on-canada
  • “What the Chancellor was saying ... is to make clear that that need to fix the foundations is a one-time deal, that there will not be a further ask of the business community comparable to what we had to do at the beginning of this parliament.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/26/cabinet-minister-contradicts-reeves-on-future-tax-raid/

    Looks like the no further tax rises line has already shifted.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632

    Very infrequent visitor to the Groucho Club, but last time I was there one of our party said he was waiting for a thank you present from a client for a job well done. And good as their word, a Chinese hooker turned up for him...

    Someone on the PT did say it was the last bastion of the old Soho.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    Is Trudeau's party going to come third?
    It was third in 2011 when he took it over, most polls have it a clear second still
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,984
    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
  • HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    Is Trudeau's party going to come third?
    It was third in 2011 when he took it over, most polls have it a clear second still
    I was looking at the trend line.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Staggering about drunk and saying deeply unsavoury things, I would imagine.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,069

    Get your wokeometers out!


    Three of the most travelled lines named to celebrate just one very posh family, imagine that!
    Arguably the suffragettes were counterproductive in achieving the aims of women's suffrage. Counterfactuals are always guesses, but left to the NUWSS, the aim might have been achieved more quickly. But the left loves an angry activist.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    kinabalu said:

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Staggering about drunk and saying deeply unsavoury things, I would imagine.
    Caught knapping ?
  • European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894
    kinabalu said:

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Staggering about drunk and saying deeply unsavoury things, I would imagine.
    One of my neighbours once described one of my other (female) neighbours as 'deeply unsavoury'. It created a bit of a stir in the meetings of the freeholders thereafter.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    Is Trudeau's party going to come third?
    It was third in 2011 when he took it over, most polls have it a clear second still
    Are the Canadians too square to have a macho reactionary populist going viral on tiktok?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    edited November 26
    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
    One thing is clear is that the right is on the march across the western world. Currently the liberal left does not lead the latest poll in a single G7 nation apart from the UK but then even in the UK the Tories led in the previous poll from MoreinCommon and Reform is up on the GE too
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,420
    Cookie said:

    Get your wokeometers out!


    Three of the most travelled lines named to celebrate just one very posh family, imagine that!
    Arguably the suffragettes were counterproductive in achieving the aims of women's suffrage. Counterfactuals are always guesses, but left to the NUWSS, the aim might have been achieved more quickly. But the left loves an angry activist.
    I agree that the suffragists may have achieved more than the suffragettes, and that popular histories wrongly overlook the problems with the suffragette campaign (which involved terrorist bombings), but it seems simplistic to then say this is because the left “loves an angry activist”. I think there are more specific reasons around how the daughters of the -gettes in the ‘70s(?) did a better job of presenting their version of history such that popular narratives came to focus on the -gettes.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,984
    edited November 26
    Afternoon all :)

    As far as Ireland is concerned, the three main parties (SF, FF and FG) polled 67.5% in 2021 and are now on 60% with the Independents up to 17%. The Greens are down but the Social Democrats should finish fifth.

    Not sure what all this means - I suspect the FF, FG and Green coalition will lose its majority in the Dail but if the Social Democrats improve, wouldn't they join a new FF/FG coalition so, contrary to what has happened in many other countries, the incumbent Government will be re-elected with SF likely to take some big losses?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,632
    Omnium said:

    kinabalu said:

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Staggering about drunk and saying deeply unsavoury things, I would imagine.
    One of my neighbours once described one of my other (female) neighbours as 'deeply unsavoury'. It created a bit of a stir in the meetings of the freeholders thereafter.
    Yes it would. It's a phrase I like but I'm very careful how I use it.
  • British troops deployed in hunt for whoever is behind drone flights over US air bases in the UK

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-troops-hunt-drone-pilot-us-air-force-bases/

    Isn’t it basically America? The same thing happened on a load of American airbases in America, afaik before the recent escalation of tensions with Russia. I am pretty sure that Russia can't manage drone swarms on American airbases in the USA. So America and its bases is the common factor. I don’t give much of a shit what they get up to until it harms me or someone close to me, it's not like we can ask them to leave, but getting our soldiers out on a drone hunt is taking the piss.
    "Is this a stand-up fight, sir, or another drone hunt?"
  • I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,143
    kinabalu said:

    Omnium said:

    kinabalu said:

    Soho’s famed Groucho Club has been served with notice of a licence review after allegations that the venue has been associated with “serious crime”.

    Bloody hell what have some of the PB regulars been up to....

    Staggering about drunk and saying deeply unsavoury things, I would imagine.
    One of my neighbours once described one of my other (female) neighbours as 'deeply unsavoury'. It created a bit of a stir in the meetings of the freeholders thereafter.
    Yes it would. It's a phrase I like but I'm very careful how I use it.
    Sweet.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Taz said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
    They think it's all Nova.
  • Taz said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
    They think it's all Nova.
    It is now....
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,984
    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
    One thing is clear is that the right is on the march across the western world. Currently the liberal left does not lead the latest poll in a single G7 or G20 western nation apart from the UK but then even in the UK the Tories led in the previous poll from MoreinCommon and Reform is up on the GE too
    Again, I think we need to be clear. In Norway, it's the Progress Party, not the Conservatives who lead. IN Denmark, the Social Democrats have a narrow lead over the Socialist People's Party. In Austria, the Freedom Party outpolled the centre right Austrian People's Party but the latter will probably form a coalition with the SPD and NEOS.

    Finally, the Social Democrats are well ahead in Sweden as well so I would argue it's still tough for incumbent Governments and it's tough for opposition conservative parties facing a populist party on their flank.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
    Canada's main polling guru, Eric Grenier, believes the election is likely to take place on 12th May.
  • Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    Terrible human being.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Hope there’s no floodwater to drive through.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Oooh. Just been commissioned to go to Uruguay. Anyone been?

    I haven't, I hear it is rather plez
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    Cookie said:

    Get your wokeometers out!


    Three of the most travelled lines named to celebrate just one very posh family, imagine that!
    Arguably the suffragettes were counterproductive in achieving the aims of women's suffrage. Counterfactuals are always guesses, but left to the NUWSS, the aim might have been achieved more quickly. But the left loves an angry activist.
    Arguably = Unprovably of course.

    See also: "Almost certainly not"
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    Taz said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
    They think it's all Nova.
    It is now....
    I feel sorry for the employees. They’re not the Victors in this.
  • OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    Terrible human being.
    Just when farmers were starting to get public sympathy over IHT, that guy loses it for them.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Correctly so given this despicable government's attack on our hardworking farmers who provide our food.

  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    ON topic

    Yawataya Isogoro Shichimi Togarashi

    OMFG
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805

    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    Terrible human being.
    Just when farmers were starting to get public sympathy over IHT, that guy loses it for them.
    Really? I don't hear much sympathy for them, apart from confirmed Tories.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942
    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    That's an interesting new threshold for dangerous driving.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720

    Taz said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
    They think it's all Nova.
    It is now....
    I feel sorry for the employees. They’re not the Victors in this.
    Don't Mokka the afflicted.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    Eabhal said:

    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    That's an interesting new threshold for dangerous driving.
    It's wakism gone mad.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,835

    OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl

    Presumably means they could have paid less interest and still covered the auction?

    Not sure why they don't do these as some sort of reverse auction - ask how much institutions would buy at what rates, then aggregate the results and allocate at those rates (or at the highest rate, at least).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    edited November 26
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
    One thing is clear is that the right is on the march across the western world. Currently the liberal left does not lead the latest poll in a single G7 or G20 western nation apart from the UK but then even in the UK the Tories led in the previous poll from MoreinCommon and Reform is up on the GE too
    Again, I think we need to be clear. In Norway, it's the Progress Party, not the Conservatives who lead. IN Denmark, the Social Democrats have a narrow lead over the Socialist People's Party. In Austria, the Freedom Party outpolled the centre right Austrian People's Party but the latter will probably form a coalition with the SPD and NEOS.

    Finally, the Social Democrats are well ahead in Sweden as well so I would argue it's still tough for incumbent Governments and it's tough for opposition conservative parties facing a populist party on their flank.
    Norway is a nation of a mere 5 million people, in Denmark the Social Democrats only lead as they have also gone hardline tough on immigration. In Austria the far right Freedom Party won most seats even if the established parties of centre right, centre left and liberals all have to combine to keep them out of power.

    Sweden has a government of the centre right supported by the hard right Sweden Democrats.

    Australia also has the conservatives neck and neck. If the left can't even sweep Scandinavia where can it win anyway?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    HYUFD said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Correctly so given this despicable government's attack on our hardworking farmers who provide our food.

    Haha very good. Are you trying out characters for a return of the Fast Show?
  • HYUFD said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Correctly so given this despicable government's attack on our hardworking farmers who provide our food.

    TSE sill thinks food magically materialises, ready plastic wrapped, in our wonderous supermarkets.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    edited November 26

    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    Terrible human being.
    Just when farmers were starting to get public sympathy over IHT, that guy loses it for them.
    Really? I don't hear much sympathy for them, apart from confirmed Tories.
    Because you live in a left liberal echo chamber, 58% of voters back the farmers, most people don't give a shit about a tractor being driven through a puddle

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/1859993600647639423
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894
    edited November 26

    OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl

    No. If you want to borrow a pound there won't be so much demand to lend to you as there would be if you were daft enough to borrow many billions more. The preparedness of others to lend vast sums to Reeves and co is though reassuring. It'll not continue forever.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,143

    OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl

    Must be some investors thinking its time to shift from US to those of us still in managed decline rather than chaotic descent.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    HYUFD said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Correctly so given this despicable government's attack on our hardworking farmers who provide our food.

    Haha very good. Are you trying out characters for a return of the Fast Show?
    Struggling to see which part you disagree with - do farmers not work hard, not produce our food, or is it the description of Sir Twat's loathed parade of political pond life as despicable that you're taking issue with?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Talking about blokes with tractors ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0jl8973meo
    Terrible human being.
    Just when farmers were starting to get public sympathy over IHT, that guy loses it for them.
    Really? I don't hear much sympathy for them, apart from confirmed Tories.
    Because you live in a left liberal echo chamber, 58% of voters back the farmers, most people don't give a shit about a tractor being driven through a puddle

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/1859993600647639423
    Well, I admit to being surprised by that. Great PR from the landed gentry!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Canadian opinion poll puts the Conservatives on 47% (and the populist People's Party on 4%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election

    That's quite an outlier poll. The weekly Nanos poll has the Conservatives in the low 40s and the fortnightly Abacus a point or two higher while the fortnightly EKOS has the Conservatives below 40%.

    It certainly looks like a big win for Poilievre at this time but there's still 11 months to go before the scheduled election on October 20th next year.
    One thing is clear is that the right is on the march across the western world. Currently the liberal left does not lead the latest poll in a single G7 or G20 western nation apart from the UK but then even in the UK the Tories led in the previous poll from MoreinCommon and Reform is up on the GE too
    Again, I think we need to be clear. In Norway, it's the Progress Party, not the Conservatives who lead. IN Denmark, the Social Democrats have a narrow lead over the Socialist People's Party. In Austria, the Freedom Party outpolled the centre right Austrian People's Party but the latter will probably form a coalition with the SPD and NEOS.

    Finally, the Social Democrats are well ahead in Sweden as well so I would argue it's still tough for incumbent Governments and it's tough for opposition conservative parties facing a populist party on their flank.
    Norway is a nation of a mere 5 million people, in Denmark the Social Democrats only lead as they have also gone hardline tough on immigration. In Austria the far right Freedom Party won most seats even if the established parties of centre right, centre left and liberals all have to combine to keep them out of power.

    Sweden has a government of the centre right supported by the hard right Sweden Democrats.

    Australia also has the conservatives neck and neck. If the left can't even sweep Scandinavia where can it win anyway?
    Yes indeed. The Danish "Social Democrat" government is further to the right than Reform, on migration/asylum. They are literally bulldozing ethnic ghettoes
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl

    Eat your heart out, Moscow...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    edited November 26

    HYUFD said:

    I see the people who gave us mad cow disease are still moaning.

    Tomorrow tractors will escalate fight back with a rally around Dover.

    Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer betrayed farmers with their disastrous budget which delivered a poisonous cocktail and a hammer blow to 🇬🇧 Farming.


    https://x.com/SaveBritishFood/status/1861460248235577746

    Correctly so given this despicable government's attack on our hardworking farmers who provide our food.

    Haha very good. Are you trying out characters for a return of the Fast Show?
    Struggling to see which part you disagree with - do farmers not work hard, not produce our food, or is it the description of Sir Twat's loathed parade of political pond life as despicable that you're taking issue with?
    Most of the people who work on farms are never inheriting a penny. Those who might inherit just need to pay the same taxes as anyone else in their position.

    The IHT APR has caused more hardship to framers over the years than removing it will.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    Omnium said:

    OT

    Am I right in assuming that the record demand for the latest British bond issue is good news for both the Government and the country?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-receives-record-demand-at-4-25-billion-pound-bond-sale/ar-AA1uMjpl

    No. If you want to borrow a pound there won't be so much demand to lend to you as there would be if you were daft enough to borrow many billions more. The preparedness of others to lend vast sums to Reeves and co is though reassuring. It'll not continue forever.
    Ah well, there's always the IMF.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972

    Taz said:

    European auto-maker Stellantis (STLAM.MI) , opens new tab said on Tuesday it planned to shut its Vauxhall van factory in Luton, southern England, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk

    Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-shut-its-van-factory-luton-england-2024-11-26/

    The wrong Corsa action?
    A Cavalier approach.
    They think it's all Nova.
    In the words of Alan Partridge - that’s very good.
  • stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    As far as Ireland is concerned, the three main parties (SF, FF and FG) polled 67.5% in 2021 and are now on 60% with the Independents up to 17%. The Greens are down but the Social Democrats should finish fifth.

    Not sure what all this means - I suspect the FF, FG and Green coalition will lose its majority in the Dail but if the Social Democrats improve, wouldn't they join a new FF/FG coalition so, contrary to what has happened in many other countries, the incumbent Government will be re-elected with SF likely to take some big losses?

    88 TDs required for a majority. FF and FG could run close to that combined. Indies favourite to join them. They prefer an overwhelming majority.
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