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Most Brits do not consider Die Hard to be a Christmas film – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,212
edited December 3 in General
Most Brits do not consider Die Hard to be a Christmas film – politicalbetting.com

And for the inevitable complaints about 8% of Britons saying that Die Hard is their favourite Christmas movie, here is what films Britons do and don't consider to be festive flicks – Die Hard is seen as NOT a Christmas movie at a rate of 46% to 37%https://t.co/kTc6UKKhtz pic.twitter.com/rJKjDUqF2i

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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    edited November 25
    They, like you, clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

  • They, like you clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    I have watched it many times.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    I'd regard Last Christmas as a Christmas movie, even though its not.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    On Topic Cineworld do

    They have released their list of Christmas classics at £5 per film Die Hard is on twice
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Speaking of cheering festive videos, this is genuinely heartening. A simple band in a village, but somehow captures the merriment of Christmas better than any professional outfit

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlJc763eCok
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198
    And we let these people vote…
  • On Topic Cineworld do

    They have released their list of Christmas classics at £5 per film Die Hard is on twice

    I am cancelling my Unlimited membership after 23 years.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Do they regard ham pasta bake as a Christmas meal?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,897
    It's a Wonderful Life is my personal favourite with an honorable mention for the Muppets Christmas Carol.
    Die Hard is very meh.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    I think we can all agree that Die Hard 4.0 is the best of the lot but I don't think it is particularly a Christmas movie.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,405
    Ho ho ho
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,036
    Still another Christmas movie many Americans like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Charlie_Brown_Christmas
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,881
    I commented to my wife about this debate about a week ago.

    She thought for a moment then said, "Die Hard is clearly a Christmas movie....... it's completely shite, but its definitely a Christmas movie."

    On this occassion, I'll give her that she's half right. I'll let you decide which half it was.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114
    Which Scrooge in that YouGov poll?

    There is only one totally standout Christmas film: 1951 'Scrooge' with Alistair Sim.


  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114

    Do they regard ham pasta bake as a Christmas meal?

    Colin Wilson begins his classic 1950s angry man literary journey in 'The Outsider' with having xmas dinner of bacon and tinned tomato.

  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,036
    Off topic: Odds are that Democrats will take control of the House in 2026. How high? It will depend on "events", of course. For now, I would say somewhere between 2-1 and 10-1. (And I am still thinking about the problem.)
  • Shecorns88Shecorns88 Posts: 279
    Die Hard seems apt given Badenochs performances today. Complete woffle at the CBI just 20 minutes of raising questions about what her plans would be. No answers then more questions questioning her initial questions. She may think she's clever, everyone else is just asleep.

    Then complete disrespect with short disinterested going through the motions speech in respect of John Prescott.

    She gloats she's not popular. She's just plain rude, disrespectful and totally out of her depth.
  • KnightOutKnightOut Posts: 145
    A little analysis: there is a popular line of argument that goes 'it's not a Christmas film, but a film that happens to be set during the festive season'.

    Perfectly fine and reasonable.

    The 'festive season' now seems to commence some time in mid-November (I wouldn't have it thus but there we are) and doesn't conclude in many countries until a few days after Twelfth Night, or possibly even Candlemas.

    So it's not unreasonable to consider that the entire 'festive season' has a duration of around eight weeks, or about 15% of the whole year.

    If the timescales covered by films were distributed evenly/randomly, given that most cover a period of several days or longer, one would expect the proportion of all films to have some of their action taking place during the festive season to be getting close to 20%.

    And yet, even allowing for actual Christmas films to skew the numbers, it doesn't appear to be anywhere near this.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    Die Hard seems apt given Badenochs performances today. Complete woffle at the CBI just 20 minutes of raising questions about what her plans would be. No answers then more questions questioning her initial questions. She may think she's clever, everyone else is just asleep.

    Then complete disrespect with short disinterested going through the motions speech in respect of John Prescott.

    She gloats she's not popular. She's just plain rude, disrespectful and totally out of her depth.

    Welcome.

    Who did you vote for at the last GE out of interest.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,161
    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,161

    Do they regard ham pasta bake as a Christmas meal?

    Only if you have it 'with all the trimmings'.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,036
    Off topic: Mitch McConnell has already scored two victories over the Loser, the choice of a new majority leader, and the rejection of Matt Gaetz. (I expect McConnell will be the Loser's most effective Congressional opponent over the next two years.)
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,881

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    Dickens pretty much invented modern christmas. Although even he didn't have it starting in fucking early October.

    "You'll be visited by dozens of ghosts, the first on the 30th of September"
    As I've said before, QVC have Christmas starting in July: https://www.qvcuk.com/content/home-and-kitchen/christmas-in-july.html

    And Home Bargains had the Christmas isle up and running by 25th August this year.

    Sure, we have Halloween and Bonfire Night, but both of those are just speedbumps in the tri-seasonal run. It's basically 26th December to Easter Monday - Easter shite; Tuesday after Easter to 31st August - Barbecue shite; 1st September to 25th December - Christmas shite.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    Dickens pretty much invented modern christmas. Although even he didn't have it starting in fucking early October.

    "You'll be visited by dozens of ghosts, the first on the 30th of September"
    At least the Americans have given Halloween back to us, which somewhat breaks up the October-December journey, along with Guy Fawkes

    What we really need is Carnival like they have in (mainly) Catholic Europe, which gives you something to look forward to in February. Because February is SHIT
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,433

    I commented to my wife about this debate about a week ago.

    She thought for a moment then said, "Die Hard is clearly a Christmas movie....... it's completely shite, but its definitely a Christmas movie."

    On this occassion, I'll give her that she's half right. I'll let you decide which half it was.

    I let my son (9 at the time) watch Die Hard last Christmas. He absolutely loved it, and absolutely does not repeat "Yippee Ki Yay, mother****er" at regular intervals. He's asking to see it again this Christmas. He's also proud that none of his friends had seen it.

    It's interesting to see what I let him watch as he grows older. Last year I let him watch all of Blackadder; one of his friends was allowed to see all four seasons, *except* the last episode of series 4 because his parents did not think he could handle it.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,433
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    Dickens pretty much invented modern christmas. Although even he didn't have it starting in fucking early October.

    "You'll be visited by dozens of ghosts, the first on the 30th of September"
    At least the Americans have given Halloween back to us, which somewhat breaks up the October-December journey, along with Guy Fawkes

    What we really need is Carnival like they have in (mainly) Catholic Europe, which gives you something to look forward to in February. Because February is SHIT
    There's always Valentine's Day.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,161
    Rach waging Class War...

    ...by doing a Q&A at the CBI.
  • They, like you clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    I have watched it many times.
    Sure you have!

    Holly McClane to Harry Ellis: "Harry, it's Christmas Eve. Families... Stockings... chestnuts... Rudolph and Frosty... those things ring a bell?"

    [listening to "Christmas in Hollis" by Run DMC]
    John McClane: "How 'bout some Christmas Music?
    Argyle the limo driver: "This IS Christmas Music!"

    John McClane to Takagi: "You throw quite a party. I didn't know they had Christmas in Japan."

    Powell to Eddie (Gruber's gang): "Sorry to water your time. Merry Christmas!"

    Hans Gruber to Theo: "It's Christmas, Theo, it's the time of miracles. So be of good cheer and call me when you hit the last lock."

    Robinson the engineer to the FBI guys: "Are you crazy? It's Christmas Eve, thousands of people -- the Mayor'll scream bloody murder..."

    Argyle the limo driver (final line): "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be there for New Year's!"

    Film closes out to "Let It Snow" sung by Vaughn Monroe.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    Reeves is even worse when meeting the press than her traditional word salad

    Gibberish
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    edited November 25
    KnightOut said:

    A little analysis: there is a popular line of argument that goes 'it's not a Christmas film, but a film that happens to be set during the festive season'.

    Perfectly fine and reasonable.

    The 'festive season' now seems to commence some time in mid-November (I wouldn't have it thus but there we are) and doesn't conclude in many countries until a few days after Twelfth Night, or possibly even Candlemas.

    So it's not unreasonable to consider that the entire 'festive season' has a duration of around eight weeks, or about 15% of the whole year.

    If the timescales covered by films were distributed evenly/randomly, given that most cover a period of several days or longer, one would expect the proportion of all films to have some of their action taking place during the festive season to be getting close to 20%.

    And yet, even allowing for actual Christmas films to skew the numbers, it doesn't appear to be anywhere near this.

    Indeed not. Because, unless the fact of the film being during Christmas is part of the plot - as with Christmas films like Home Alone and Die Hard - then generally a storyteller will prefer a blank canvas, rather than the backdrop of a part of the year that has so many conventions and expectations.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Ho ho ho

    Now I have a Die Hard Thread!
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,316

    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.

    You're probably right. I wonder if anyone can guess the connection between a mushy movie and this poor little apostrophe clinging for dear life to a balcony rail?




  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198
    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    No, no, no! The Muppets did a Christmas Carol best. Ironically it’s also one of the more faithful adaptations.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    edited November 25
    ON topic, am I alone in being hypnotised by the Shuffle Dance? Especially when it is done to the brilliant Letoublon tune, as here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpdrPLdguc



    It is the single greatest dance ever invented. Completely mesmerising. I must have watched dozens of videos of young people doing it all over the world. I watch them whenever I am feeling down about humanity

    We're not all bad. We can dance like THAT!!

    But it is definitely a young person's dance. I tried to learn it a couple of years ago. Ouch
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.

    You're probably right. I wonder if anyone can guess the connection between a mushy movie and this poor little apostrophe clinging for dear life to a balcony rail?




    Breakfast at Tiffany's.
  • Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    Convinced my wife and son to watch that on Saturday night, great film. Definitely Murray at his best.

    Personally it's Patrick Stewart's Christmas Carol, but Scrooged is right up there.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,316
    Carnyx said:

    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.

    You're probably right. I wonder if anyone can guess the connection between a mushy movie and this poor little apostrophe clinging for dear life to a balcony rail?




    Breakfast at Tiffany's.
    Right city.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    No, no, no! The Muppets did a Christmas Carol best. Ironically it’s also one of the more faithful adaptations.
    One of the best things about Scrooged is that it is a 1988 film, at the height of late-80s greed is good capitalism.

    I really feel that Hollywood needs to do a lot better with the dramatic possibilities provided by the context of a Trump Presidency. They pretty much missed out completely last time.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    Do they regard ham pasta bake as a Christmas meal?

    Only if you have it 'with all the trimmings'.
    And Quorn hunter's chicken instead of pigs in blankets.
  • This may enrage some but I have a Die Hard themed Christmas jumper. It is quite subtle.

    I do find the arguments about this amusing. And it is classic pub debate fodder. However, if release date matters then what month makes a Christmas movie? I appreciate the answer may be “not July” - but what about November? Home Alone came out then - and was still packing out cinemas in early spring.

    Mind as I recall from the film Dogma, it wasn’t the angel serendipity responsible for inspiring Home Alone, but satan. So perhaps not Christian fodder.
  • Shecorns88Shecorns88 Posts: 279

    Reeves is even worse when meeting the press than her traditional word salad

    Gibberish

    On the contrary.

    She's explained why she had to do what she did.

    She's promised it's a one off and explained why.

    She's defined the metric by which she expects to be judged?

    Like it or not.

    It's clear and concise. That will reassure Business and the Markets.

    They now know what the hard miles are going to involve and what is the end aim.

    Tin eared. Yes.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    Well, I certainly watch it at Christmas.

    But, then, I do that with Back to the Future.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,488
    edited November 25

    They, like you clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    I have watched it many times.
    Sure you have!

    Holly McClane to Harry Ellis: "Harry, it's Christmas Eve. Families... Stockings... chestnuts... Rudolph and Frosty... those things ring a bell?"

    [listening to "Christmas in Hollis" by Run DMC]
    John McClane: "How 'bout some Christmas Music?
    Argyle the limo driver: "This IS Christmas Music!"

    John McClane to Takagi: "You throw quite a party. I didn't know they had Christmas in Japan."

    Powell to Eddie (Gruber's gang): "Sorry to water your time. Merry Christmas!"

    Hans Gruber to Theo: "It's Christmas, Theo, it's the time of miracles. So be of good cheer and call me when you hit the last lock."

    Robinson the engineer to the FBI guys: "Are you crazy? It's Christmas Eve, thousands of people -- the Mayor'll scream bloody murder..."

    Argyle the limo driver (final line): "If this is their idea of Christmas, I gotta be there for New Year's!"

    Film closes out to "Let It Snow" sung by Vaughn Monroe.
    Perhaps one of the strangest things I learned in Japan was that they celebrate Christmas by going to KFC for dinner.
  • A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?
  • This may enrage some but I have a Die Hard themed Christmas jumper. It is quite subtle.

    I do find the arguments about this amusing. And it is classic pub debate fodder. However, if release date matters then what month makes a Christmas movie? I appreciate the answer may be “not July” - but what about November? Home Alone came out then - and was still packing out cinemas in early spring.

    Mind as I recall from the film Dogma, it wasn’t the angel serendipity responsible for inspiring Home Alone, but satan. So perhaps not Christian fodder.

    Is "Saving Private Ryan" a war movie because it was released in peace time?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Another Shuffle/Letoublon video

    Yes yes, there are pretty girls, but I like watching the guys do it as well. Because this dance might just be the purest expression of human joy I know. The sheer exuberance of being alive

    https://youtu.be/okzGINsQIlc?si=xQA6JHRX3b1YSuzi
  • Well, I certainly watch it at Christmas.

    But, then, I do that with Back to the Future.

    Great Scott!
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.

    If I were Chief Executioner, I wouldn’t need the rack or even the hot hard boiled egg up the arse. I would lock my victim in a room and force them to watch a continuous loop of Channel 5 Christmas movies.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514

    Reeves is even worse when meeting the press than her traditional word salad

    Gibberish

    On the contrary.

    She's explained why she had to do what she did.

    She's promised it's a one off and explained why.

    She's defined the metric by which she expects to be judged?

    Like it or not.

    It's clear and concise. That will reassure Business and the Markets.

    They now know what the hard miles are going to involve and what is the end aim.

    Tin eared. Yes.

    More gibberish

    She invented a crisis so she could tax hard to bribe the public sector. This isnt explanation it's lying

    She's in no position to say its a one off as inflation and no growth means she'll be cash strapped sooner than later

    She has no plan no ideas except to parrot that she's not a Tory

    Failure

  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053
    Jonathan said:

    Good grief. Is it Christmas now?

    Die Hard may not be a Christmas film, but TSE going off on the subject is a true Christmas tradition. Which in turn ironically makes Die Hard a Christmas film here.

    @TSE’s problem is that as Eid hasn’t a fixed date, it’s impossible for there to be such as thing as an Eid movie.
  • PJHPJH Posts: 689
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    No, no, no! The Muppets did a Christmas Carol best. Ironically it’s also one of the more faithful adaptations.
    And Michael Caine plays scrooge absolutely straight, which I find just as funny as all the puppet madness around him.

    This is our family traditional Christmas movie, though I used to prefer It's a Wonderful Life but can't enjoy it now for personal reasons.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,704

    Die Hard is the only Christmas film I would ever watch by choice. It's set at Christmas, has Christmas themes, has people saying Christmassy things and you can buy Die Hard Christmas tat.
    It is a Christmas Film!

    The empire strikes back qualifies under your criteria. Lots of snow and donkey like things it’s clearly Xmas , a central father/son dynamic (one of which later to find with a virgin birth). and all sorts of associated Christmas tat.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    New article in the Spectator.

    "How debauchery turns to tragedy in towns like Vang Vieng
    Sean Thomas"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-debauchery-turns-to-tragedy-in-places-like-vang-vieng/
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895

    The Great Escape.

    Was always shown at Christmas back in the day. Therefore, I associate it with Christmas.

    Anything of the genre "Christmas Film" is usually a pile of mushy shite.

    If I were Chief Executioner, I wouldn’t need the rack or even the hot hard boiled egg up the arse. I would lock my victim in a room and force them to watch a continuous loop of Channel 5 Christmas movies.
    That wouldn't work on everyone. I have fallen quite far into the Netflix Christmas movie rabbit hole. I'm sure I could survive anything Channel 5 could throw at me.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    I'm still trying to think what my favourite Christmas film is.

    Is The Railway Children a Christmas film?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    I'm still trying to think what my favourite Christmas film is.

    Is The Railway Children a Christmas film?

    I don't suppose The Finishing Line is!

    https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-the-finishing-line-1977-online
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945

    Die Hard is the only Christmas film I would ever watch by choice. It's set at Christmas, has Christmas themes, has people saying Christmassy things and you can buy Die Hard Christmas tat.
    It is a Christmas Film!

    Never seen it. Why do some people think it isn't a Christmas film in that case?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198
    PJH said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    No, no, no! The Muppets did a Christmas Carol best. Ironically it’s also one of the more faithful adaptations.
    And Michael Caine plays scrooge absolutely straight, which I find just as funny as all the puppet madness around him.

    This is our family traditional Christmas movie, though I used to prefer It's a Wonderful Life but can't enjoy it now for personal reasons.
    Yes it wouldn’t work if he wasn’t so perfect as Scrooge. I can’t picture anyone else in the role now.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,099
    Andy_JS said:

    Die Hard is the only Christmas film I would ever watch by choice. It's set at Christmas, has Christmas themes, has people saying Christmassy things and you can buy Die Hard Christmas tat.
    It is a Christmas Film!

    Never seen it. Why do some people think it isn't a Christmas film in that case?
    It doesn't snow at any point
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    Andy_JS said:

    New article in the Spectator.

    "How debauchery turns to tragedy in towns like Vang Vieng
    Sean Thomas"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-debauchery-turns-to-tragedy-in-places-like-vang-vieng/

    https://archive.ph/Rslc9
  • Scott_xP said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Die Hard is the only Christmas film I would ever watch by choice. It's set at Christmas, has Christmas themes, has people saying Christmassy things and you can buy Die Hard Christmas tat.
    It is a Christmas Film!

    Never seen it. Why do some people think it isn't a Christmas film in that case?
    It doesn't snow at any point
    It closes with Let It Snow, sung by Vaughn Monroe.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,032
    Home Alone is the correct answer for best Christmas movie. We watched it last year after dinner and I don't think I've seen my niece laugh as much at anything since. She's literally been counting down the days until she can watch it again this year after my sister promised she could. It's a brilliant movie.
  • Die Hard is trash
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    "Sam Leith
    Those signing the general election petition should know better"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/those-signing-the-general-election-petition-should-know-better/
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    edited November 25

    Die Hard is trash

    "Bzzz! Sorry, Hans! Wrong guess!"
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,835
    edited November 25
    Per AndyJS's link:

    "Despite being so geographically disparate, they all share that same cultural mix of dope pizzas and music-on-the-beach..."

    Is this fella a yank or is there a comma missing there?
  • kicorsekicorse Posts: 437
    Looking at the options, "I don't have a favourite Christmas film" is definitely the right answer. I suppose I liked Gremlins as a child....
  • carnforth said:

    Per AndyJS's link:

    "Despite being so geographically disparate, they all share that same cultural mix of dope pizzas and music-on-the-beach..."

    Is this fella a yank or is there a comma missing there?

    Dope pizza sounds worse than pineapple.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    Being released in July, it can't really be a Christmas film, can it?
  • Andy_JS said:

    Being released in July, it can't really be a Christmas film, can it?

    Being released in peace time, Saving Private Ryan can't really be a War Film, can it?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172

    They, like you, clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    Isn't the correct German Die Härte ?

    I'm sure Hans Gruber would say so.

  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,835
    Andy_JS said:

    Being released in July, it can't really be a Christmas film, can it?

    Art exists within and without the intent of the creator (or, in this case, the film distributor).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Truly fucking WEIRD advert for "assisted dying" on the Tube. Approved by Khan, who doesn't allow pics of women in bikinis

    Exactly why is this woman dancing? Because she's opverjoyed at the prospect of her imminent death, or the inheritance she will get from the granny she just slotted?

    I think I'd vote against the Bill because of this advert, by itself

    https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1861017161646616957
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?

    Do we have to pay if in a hotel on business?

    Or is that such a rare possibility that we needn't worry?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Leon said:

    Truly fucking WEIRD advert for "assisted dying" on the Tube. Approved by Khan, who doesn't allow pics of women in bikinis

    Exactly why is this woman dancing? Because she's opverjoyed at the prospect of her imminent death, or the inheritance she will get from the granny she just slotted?

    I think I'd vote against the Bill because of this advert, by itself

    https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1861017161646616957

    Who’s funding it and why?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    I'm still trying to think what my favourite Christmas film is.

    Is The Railway Children a Christmas film?

    If it were, it would be called the "Closed for engineering works" Children.
    The Bus Replacement Children...
  • Nigelb said:

    They, like you, clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    Isn't the correct German Die Härte ?

    I'm sure Hans Gruber would say so.

    [whispering] "I read about them in Time Magazine!"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    edited November 25
    Leon said:

    Truly fucking WEIRD advert for "assisted dying" on the Tube. Approved by Khan, who doesn't allow pics of women in bikinis

    Exactly why is this woman dancing? Because she's opverjoyed at the prospect of her imminent death, or the inheritance she will get from the granny she just slotted?

    I think I'd vote against the Bill because of this advert, by itself

    https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1861017161646616957

    How about this?

    Checked out Leytonstone High Road and Wanstead Park on the London Overground today. Both had new maps with all 6 newly named lines, "Suffragette Line" timetables, and platform announcements mention "Suffragette Line train". Also rode on two 710s between the two stations (one each way), both had the six different line diagrams above the insides of the doors.

    https://content.tfl.gov.uk/standard-tube-map.pdf
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172

    Leon said:

    SCROOGED is the best. Bill Murray on peak form, doing the greatest of all Xmas stories

    Convinced my wife and son to watch that on Saturday night, great film. Definitely Murray at his best.

    Personally it's Patrick Stewart's Christmas Carol, but Scrooged is right up there.
    Also,

    Alastair Sim's Scrooge;
    Bad Santa;
    Gremlins.
  • A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?

    This has been a favorite of the hard left for as long as I can remember. It is like charging for car parks in town centres and then wondering why retail businesses shut in town centres and move to out of town shopping centres. Just because the present government is the dumbest since 1931 does not mean that it hasn't had competition.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    Truly fucking WEIRD advert for "assisted dying" on the Tube. Approved by Khan, who doesn't allow pics of women in bikinis

    Exactly why is this woman dancing? Because she's opverjoyed at the prospect of her imminent death, or the inheritance she will get from the granny she just slotted?

    I think I'd vote against the Bill because of this advert, by itself

    https://x.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1861017161646616957

    Who’s funding it and why?
    God knows. It's hideous and crass

    I cannot think of an advert better designed to undermine the Bill than this, so maybe it was funded by the Catholic Church
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 25

    A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?

    This has been a favorite of the hard left for as long as I can remember. It is like charging for car parks in town centres and then wondering why retail businesses shut in town centres and move to out of town shopping centres. Just because the present government is the dumbest since 1931 does not mean that it hasn't had competition.
    Of course its a nice job creation scheme for councils as now you need licencing officials, people checking up on accommodation providers, etc. After a year they will say, oh no £1.25 a night just isn't making enough money after all the admin costs, we need to up it...

    I think we will see it everywhere in the UK shortly.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,554
    Leon said:

    ON topic, am I alone in being hypnotised by the Shuffle Dance? Especially when it is done to the brilliant Letoublon tune, as here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpdrPLdguc



    It is the single greatest dance ever invented. Completely mesmerising. I must have watched dozens of videos of young people doing it all over the world. I watch them whenever I am feeling down about humanity

    We're not all bad. We can dance like THAT!!

    But it is definitely a young person's dance. I tried to learn it a couple of years ago. Ouch

    Annoyingly I can’t find that Letoublon Friendships vid you posted a couple of years ago as it still has the best mix of dances including the person doing it upside down under water.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,122
    Nigelb said:

    They, like you, clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    Isn't the correct German Die Härte ?

    I'm sure Hans Gruber would say so.

    Um... The hardness? What film are you actually watching.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 25
    ‘I’m not coming back with more borrowing or more taxes’, says Rachel Reeves
    The Chancellor told the CBI conference she would not be coming back with more borrowing or taxes.

    Asked if she could confirm there would be no more big tax rises on businesses, Rachel Reeves said: “I faced a problem, and I faced into it, and we have now drawn a line under the fiction peddled by the previous government.

    “We’ve put our public finances back on a firm footing, and we’ve now set the budgets for public services for the duration of this Parliament.

    “Public services now need to live within their means because I’m really clear, I’m not coming back with more borrowing or more taxes.”

    ----------

    The IFS have already looked at this and said unless she is going to accept austerity (which she has already said is an absolute no no), then further public service spending increases will be required in year 3 which are currently unfunded.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    ON topic, am I alone in being hypnotised by the Shuffle Dance? Especially when it is done to the brilliant Letoublon tune, as here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpdrPLdguc



    It is the single greatest dance ever invented. Completely mesmerising. I must have watched dozens of videos of young people doing it all over the world. I watch them whenever I am feeling down about humanity

    We're not all bad. We can dance like THAT!!

    But it is definitely a young person's dance. I tried to learn it a couple of years ago. Ouch

    Annoyingly I can’t find that Letoublon Friendships vid you posted a couple of years ago as it still has the best mix of dances including the person doing it upside down under water.
    Yes! I'm looking for that one too....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    Cicero said:

    Nigelb said:

    They, like you, clearly haven't watched Die Hard!

    Isn't the correct German Die Härte ?

    I'm sure Hans Gruber would say so.

    Um... The hardness? What film are you actually watching.
    “Die Hard” - The Hard - is an unpleasant mix of English and German, of course.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 25
    Bill Sweeney, the Rugby Football Union’s chief executive, will be paid £1.1 million this year having received a pre-agreed performance bonus, despite recent redundancies and cost-cutting at Twickenham. Sweeney’s annual base salary included a pay rise of 8.5 per cent from £684,000 to £742,000. According to the annual report, he has also received a one-off performance-based payment of £358,000.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/11/25/rfu-chief-executive-bill-sweeney-paid-record-salary/

    You lose £40 million and you get a performance bonus.....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    I’d also put in a vote for The Lion in Winter.

    Stagey, but somewhat great nonetheless.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    It turns out that the Starmer ham pasta bake story is fake news. In fact he says “a hand-made sauce” which was misheard as ham.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvkiv4DuF6g
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Also, of all the places to put an ad encouraging you to commit suicide, they chose a Tube Station
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    MaxPB said:

    Home Alone is the correct answer for best Christmas movie. We watched it last year after dinner and I don't think I've seen my niece laugh as much at anything since. She's literally been counting down the days until she can watch it again this year after my sister promised she could. It's a brilliant movie.

    Loads more in that line for her to dive into also - Uncle Buck, Beethoven, Three Men and a Baby... Great era for funny and slick American kids films.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585

    A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?

    This has been a favorite of the hard left for as long as I can remember. It is like charging for car parks in town centres and then wondering why retail businesses shut in town centres and move to out of town shopping centres. Just because the present government is the dumbest since 1931 does not mean that it hasn't had competition.
    I don't have a problem paying for parking nor a hotel levy because that's the only money the council is getting from tourists to cover the cost (to the council) of that tourism...

    If it's not going to the local council, that's a different matter..
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,694

    A £1.25 per night tourism tax could be introduced in Wales from 2027, it has been announced. Guests at hotels, B&Bs and self-catered accommodation would pay the visitor levy if councils decide to introduce it in their areas. A lower rate of 75p would be charged for hostels and campsites.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj6kwdw6n05o

    Risen to £5 a night come 2030?

    This has been a favorite of the hard left for as long as I can remember. It is like charging for car parks in town centres and then wondering why retail businesses shut in town centres and move to out of town shopping centres. Just because the present government is the dumbest since 1931 does not mean that it hasn't had competition.
    Of course its a nice job creation scheme for councils as now you need licencing officials, people checking up on accommodation providers, etc. After a year they will say, oh no £1.25 a night just isn't making enough money after all the admin costs, we need to up it...

    I think we will see it everywhere in the UK shortly.
    TBH one has to have some sympathy. Cymru/Wales has loads of 'visitors' with caravans and the like who load up with food before they leave home and spend their week close to the beach, maybe buying the odd pint or glass of wine, but contributing very little to the local economy.
    Yes OKC's a little bitter, but this is a family argument that's going to go on for some time.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172

    On Topic Cineworld do

    They have released their list of Christmas classics at £5 per film Die Hard is on twice

    I am cancelling my Unlimited membership after 23 years.
    It cannot be coincidence that one of the better known Korean Christmas movies is The Tower (타워).

    It’s clearly a Christmassy theme.
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