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  • Villa!
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited March 2014

    SeanT said:

    Toby Helm ‏@tobyhelm 59s

    Labour lead still 5pts in new Opinium/Obs poll. Lab 35 (+1), Con 30 (+1), Ukip 16 (-3), Lib Dems 10 (n/c). Mili, Clegg ratings up, Cam same

    Modest relief for Labour. But more evidence of UKIP decline (which will please Tories).
    If UKIP can manage to decline without affecting the Labour lead, that's absolutely fine with us lefties - one uncertainty less.

    As a matter of interest, how many here expect the Budget to result in a shift beyond MOE (either way)? My recolelction is that Budgets very rarely do, the omnishambles excepted. People do pay attention and think it might be big, then they work out it's benefited them by £8.73 per year or they've lost £4.68, and they shrug and move on.
    How much would the average person have "lost" per year by fixing a tax abnormality relating to warm pasties?

    Stupid people obsess over stupid things because they are stupid.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723

    SeanT said:

    Toby Helm ‏@tobyhelm 59s

    Labour lead still 5pts in new Opinium/Obs poll. Lab 35 (+1), Con 30 (+1), Ukip 16 (-3), Lib Dems 10 (n/c). Mili, Clegg ratings up, Cam same

    Modest relief for Labour. But more evidence of UKIP decline (which will please Tories).
    If UKIP can manage to decline without affecting the Labour lead, that's absolutely fine with us lefties - one uncertainty less.

    As a matter of interest, how many here expect the Budget to result in a shift beyond MOE (either way)? My recolelction is that Budgets very rarely do, the omnishambles excepted. People do pay attention and think it might be big, then they work out it's benefited them by £8.73 per year or they've lost £4.68, and they shrug and move on.
    Yes, Nick, I would agree.

    However what it might do is just reinforce Con momentum a tiny bit more - things at least appear to be marginally moving in Con direction and if the Budget nudges Con up by maybe 1% over the next few weeks then I'm sure Con will be happy with that.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited March 2014
    antifrank said:

    There's a lot of discussion about the what and how of the missing flight. But very little about the why.

    Why would anyone commandeer a plane with a full complement of passengers and crew? The motive doesn't seem to be for a ransom. The plane wasn't crashed into a target. There is no sign so far that the plane crashed at all.

    The possibilities are all grim. The most ominous is that it now seems entirely possible that those commandeering the plane, crew and passengers have succeeded in securing it and them at an unknown location. This, it appears, may be only phase one of a plan. I doubt that phase two will be to our liking. It seems well organised.

    If the ascent to FL450 (45,000 feet) is accepted then whoever piloted the plane was not interested in its passengers (or cabin crew). That manoeuvre alone would have knocked out all outside the flight cabin with hypoxia, the drop down emergency masks being insufficient to supply the oxygen required in such conditions.

    Doubts though exist about whether the ascent to FL450 has been correctly measured and, if so, whether a B777 could sustain this height (and the subsequent descent) without damaging itself to the extent of preventing subsequent normal flight.

    But accepting the passenger knockout theory, then clues to the motive may lie in the contents of the hold or the re-usability of the plane after refitting and possible arming.

    The Malaysian authorities have not released a freight manifest nor commented publicly on what cargo was being carried. For as long as this silence persists, rumours will escalate.

    The land, strip, repaint and fit dirty bomb scenario is being widely discussed. Initially dismissed as being on the lunatic fringe of explanations, it is quickly gaining mainstream consideration. We must assume a successful North West flight path towards the 'stans for this theory to make sense though.

    The only other major theory being espoused is pilot suicide with ditching mid Indian Ocean to prevent recovery of black box etc.
  • Patrick O'Flynn ‏@oflynndirector 51s

    Exciting poll news for UKIP supporters coming up shortly!
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514
    Bloody right Neil !

    But now it's crack open the Bushmills.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Patrick O'Flynn ‏@oflynndirector 1m
    Exciting poll news for UKIP supporters coming up shortly!
  • macisbackmacisback Posts: 382

    macisback said:

    corporeal said:

    Could be a massacre in Cardiff. Wales to run riot against 14-man Scotland?

    Right call for a red, with what we're learning about concussions shots to the head should and re being clamped down on.

    (In relation to the deserved raving about the English team, they do look very good and play nice expansive rugby. As I said earlier, their second rows deserve the highest praise).
    Liverpool and England playing glorious entertaining stuff.

    If only our football team and cricket team could do the same.
    Liverpool have done well but rode their luck in several games recently. I think Man Utd will turn them over tomorrow, Moyes has been a disaster but I think Utd's players will be up for this game.

    For Liverpool going to Old Trafford will always be hard, it is hard to put into words how much time served Man Utd fans dislike Liverpool and Liverpool FC, for Moyes future he has to realise this match will matter a lot more than the Champions League or Man City next week, lose this one and I would certainly put money on his departure in the near future. The pressure on him would move to another scale.

    I talk about this as a neutral who has lived in Greater Manchester for many years.
    All the Man United fans I know are utterly fearful for tomorrow.

    One of them is convinced of such a shellacking he's given me his ticket for the match tomorrow.
    Not the impression I have been getting, to get a win you will have to defend well, not convinced you will do that. Expect a hard game and take a tin hat with you, they really don't like Liverpool.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    What about the Japanese pilot who claimed he spoke to MH370 8 minutes after radar contact was lost?
    http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-pilot-i-established-contact-with-plane-1.503464
  • Ramires is a dirty b*stard
  • macisbackmacisback Posts: 382
    MikeL said:

    Well I'm a Liverpool fan and I certainly concede we have had a lot of luck in recent weeks.

    I don't regard making the top 4 as anything like guaranteed - if we lose tomorrow then the pressure will be back on and it could easily tighten up - especially as we still have to play Spurs.

    You will get top 4 and beat Spurs easily, if you win against Utd you can put some real pressure on Chelsea but I do strongly fancy Utd to win.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Villa!

    I have no interest in top flight quality football at all - which comes from being a Pompey fan, really.

    But I guess this finally consigns my ill considered pre-season Villa Relegation betting slip to the bin.
  • macisback said:

    macisback said:

    corporeal said:

    Could be a massacre in Cardiff. Wales to run riot against 14-man Scotland?

    Right call for a red, with what we're learning about concussions shots to the head should and re being clamped down on.

    (In relation to the deserved raving about the English team, they do look very good and play nice expansive rugby. As I said earlier, their second rows deserve the highest praise).
    Liverpool and England playing glorious entertaining stuff.

    If only our football team and cricket team could do the same.
    Liverpool have done well but rode their luck in several games recently. I think Man Utd will turn them over tomorrow, Moyes has been a disaster but I think Utd's players will be up for this game.

    For Liverpool going to Old Trafford will always be hard, it is hard to put into words how much time served Man Utd fans dislike Liverpool and Liverpool FC, for Moyes future he has to realise this match will matter a lot more than the Champions League or Man City next week, lose this one and I would certainly put money on his departure in the near future. The pressure on him would move to another scale.

    I talk about this as a neutral who has lived in Greater Manchester for many years.
    All the Man United fans I know are utterly fearful for tomorrow.

    One of them is convinced of such a shellacking he's given me his ticket for the match tomorrow.
    Not the impression I have been getting, to get a win you will have to defend well, not convinced you will do that. Expect a hard game and take a tin hat with you, they really don't like Liverpool.
    I did it earlier on in the season.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    Precise Opinium leader ratings: Dave -10, Ed -14, Clegg -39 - but the -39 is the best for two years, so there's hope for us all... Dave vs Ed the closest for a while.
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    UKIP leading in Euro elections race
    John Rentoul
    By John Rentoul
    Eagle Eye
    Last updated: Saturday, 15 March 2014 at 7:27 pm

    farage2 300x168 UKIP leading in Euro elections raceThe UK Independence Party is on course to win the largest share of the vote in the European Parliament elections in May, according to a ComRes opinion poll for The Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror.

    UKIP 30% (+3)
    Lab 28% (+5)
    Con 21% (0)
    Lib Dem 8% (-10)
    Green 6% (+2)
    Other 7% (0)

    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/03/15/ukip-leading-in-euro-elections-race/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514

    Precise Opinium leader ratings: Dave -10, Ed -14, Clegg -39 - but the -39 is the best for two years, so there's hope for us all... Dave vs Ed the closest for a while.

    A false dawn Mr Palmer Ed remains as useless as ever,
  • Labour lead slips again in Westminster VI - 3% Lead

    For the general election, however, Labour’s lead has slipped by two points to three, giving the Conservatives hope of closing the gap if they can hold the UKIP advance.

    Con 32% (0)
    Lab 35% (-2)
    Lib Dem 9% (0)
    UKIP 16% (+1)
    Other 8% (+1)
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    SeanT said:

    AveryLP said:

    antifrank said:

    There's a lot of discussion about the what and how of the missing flight. But very little about the why.

    Why would anyone commandeer a plane with a full complement of passengers and crew? The motive doesn't seem to be for a ransom. The plane wasn't crashed into a target. There is no sign so far that the plane crashed at all.

    The possibilities are all grim. The most ominous is that it now seems entirely possible that those commandeering the plane, crew and passengers have succeeded in securing it and them at an unknown location. This, it appears, may be only phase one of a plan. I doubt that phase two will be to our liking. It seems well organised.

    If the ascent to FL450 (45,000 feet) is accepted then whoever piloted the plane was not interested in its passengers (or cabin crew). That manoeuvre alone would have knocked out all outside the flight cabin with hypoxia, the drop down emergency masks being insufficient to supply the oxygen required in such conditions.

    Doubts though exist about whether the ascent to FL450 has been correctly measured and, if so, whether a B777 could sustain this height (and the subsequent descent) without damaging itself to the extent of preventing subsequent normal flight.

    But accepting the passenger knockout theory, then clues to the motive may lie in the contents of the hold or the re-usability of the plane after refitting and possible arming.

    The Malaysian authorities have not released a freight manifest nor commented publicly on what cargo was being carried. For as long as this silence persists, rumours will escalate.

    The land, strip, repaint and fit dirty bomb scenario is being widely discussed. Initially dismissed as being on the lunatic fringe of explanations, it is quickly gaining mainstream consideration. We must assume a successful North West flight path towards the 'stans for this theory to make sense though.

    The only other major theory being espoused is pilot suicide with ditching mid Indian Ocean to prevent recovery of black box etc.
    It would be, in a slightly sick way, quite exciting if WE NEVER FIND OUT what happened to Air Malaysia 370 (horrible for the relatives of course).

    It would become a modern day Marie Celeste. A mystery for the ages.
    In my advice to investors, I have marked all the following as a STRONG BUY:

    Radar equipment manufacturers, aviation thriller writers and Hollywood studios specialising in blockbusters.

    Time to revive and reposition Tom Knox?

  • New Thread
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    The UK Independence Party is on course to win the largest share of the vote in the European Parliament elections in May, according to a ComRes opinion poll for The Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror.

    UKIP 30% (+3)
    Lab 28% (+5)
    Con 21% (0)
    Lib Dem 8% (-10)
    Green 6% (+2)
    Other 7% (0)

    UKIP polling 30% http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/03/15/ukip-leading-in-euro-elections-race/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,507
    edited March 2014
    Daily Mail going big on possible terrorist angle on the missing plane....

    Doomed Airliner Pilot was Political Fanatic

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BizNYIGIgAA0sR3.jpg:large
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