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  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,660
    kle4 said:

    nico679 said:

    The Tories refused to accept a Lords amendment on the Rwanda Bill which would exempt those who served for or with the British army from being sent to Rwanda .

    #ToryScum

    I would be fascinated to know what reasoning is behind that, if not simply truculence against any amendment. Did it do something else as well?
    Got to remove the Afghan witnesses to our SAS's extrajudicial killings.

    https://aoav.org.uk/2024/betrayal-in-the-shadows-uk-special-forces-block-afghan-allies-safe-haven/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,646

    NEW THREAD

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,021
    WillG said:

    Ratters said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Nigelb said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak told Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in a phone call on Tuesday that a significant escalation with Iran was in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the Middle East. "This was a moment for calm heads to prevail," he said according to a statement by the British Prime Minister's office

    https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1780300462824034601

    If someone decided to fire 300 missiles and drones to us or USA would we be expected to "keep calm and carry on" ?
    We didn't; we helped shoot them down.
    Yes, but whether they were shot down or landed on their targets, there would be a singiifcant response against the country staging the attack, wouldn't there?

    Particularly is it was America that was attacked.
    If it was America that was attacked, the Mullahs would be gone by now.
    True, but the difference here is that, while Israel is strong, I do not think is it powerful enough to defeat the Iranian regime in Iran without direct US involvement (and probably leadership).

    That puts them at the mercy of a third party nation wanting to take part in another major war in the Middle East far from home. That won't be politically popular in either party.
    Also, the United States isn't actively in the middle of colonizing land in the region for a perpetual occupation. Once Israel stops doing that, we can be a bit more willing to help.
    Isn't the colonisation of land for a perpetual occupation the way that the USA was created?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,978
    viewcode said:

    The police investigation into Angela Rayner is examining multiple allegations and is not merely limited to potential electoral law offences, The Times has learnt.

    At least a dozen officers at Greater Manchester police are investigating the Labour deputy leader over where she lived in the 2010s and the sale of her former council house in Stockport.

    The Times understands that police are examining tax matters and other issues on top of the question of whether Rayner gave false information for the electoral register when she lived between two former council houses in Stockport in the 2010s.

    While she has insisted she lived primarily in her own home, former neighbours said she was living with her husband just over a mile away.

    The issue is likely to overshadow the local elections next month as the investigation is expected to take weeks rather than days. A source said: “It’s very well resourced, it’s not a single issue. There is a volume of material and a clear public interest to fully investigate.”

    Stephen Watson, the chief constable, told local radio on Tuesday that “there are a number of assertions knocking about” and “we are going to get to the bottom of what has happened.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-police-investigate-multiple-allegations-tax-matters-living-g6dt9sjqt

    I have to ask: has she bought a mobile home recently?
    ..


  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,851

    New thread

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,306

    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak told Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in a phone call on Tuesday that a significant escalation with Iran was in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the Middle East. "This was a moment for calm heads to prevail," he said according to a statement by the British Prime Minister's office

    https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1780300462824034601

    Once again showing he's not fit for office.

    Tony Blair wouldn't have been so pissweak.
    Quite the opposite

    'Blessed are the peacemakers' and he is in line with all the G7 leaders plus Saudi and Jordan

    You seem intent on a catastrophic Middle Eastern war which is doing you no favours
    Biggest warmonger on the site whether israel or russia ukraine.
    Wrong. I advocate the conquest of France & Russia on regular basis.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,792
    GIN1138 said:

    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak told Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in a phone call on Tuesday that a significant escalation with Iran was in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the Middle East. "This was a moment for calm heads to prevail," he said according to a statement by the British Prime Minister's office

    https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1780300462824034601

    If someone decided to fire 300 missiles and drones to us or USA would we be expected to "keep calm and carry on" ?
    It all went quite quiet, quite quickly after they shot down the 'OMG Chinese Spy Destroyer-Balloon' last year.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,780
    On thread, I must spoken to some 250 or so different households over the past fortnight while knocking on doors and not once has the subject of Angela Rayner's living arrangements been raised by anyone. Thin gruel indeed.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,625

    Since the Israel stans seem convinced that Hamas are sock puppets of Iran, couldn’t the IDF killing 11 kids in a Gaza playground today be considered payback for Saturday? Everyone happy, except the parents of the kids obvs.

    Are you claiming that Hamas are not heavily linked to Iran?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    The police investigation into Angela Rayner is examining multiple allegations and is not merely limited to potential electoral law offences, The Times has learnt.

    At least a dozen officers at Greater Manchester police are investigating the Labour deputy leader over where she lived in the 2010s and the sale of her former council house in Stockport.

    The Times understands that police are examining tax matters and other issues on top of the question of whether Rayner gave false information for the electoral register when she lived between two former council houses in Stockport in the 2010s.

    While she has insisted she lived primarily in her own home, former neighbours said she was living with her husband just over a mile away.

    The issue is likely to overshadow the local elections next month as the investigation is expected to take weeks rather than days. A source said: “It’s very well resourced, it’s not a single issue. There is a volume of material and a clear public interest to fully investigate.”

    Stephen Watson, the chief constable, told local radio on Tuesday that “there are a number of assertions knocking about” and “we are going to get to the bottom of what has happened.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-police-investigate-multiple-allegations-tax-matters-living-g6dt9sjqt

    This is strange . Any initial investigation into tax matters is conducted by the HMRC who then pass the information to the CPS . It’s not normal practice for the police to conduct a tax investigation before the HMRC.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,270
    kle4 said:

    nico679 said:

    The Tories refused to accept a Lords amendment on the Rwanda Bill which would exempt those who served for or with the British army from being sent to Rwanda .

    #ToryScum

    I would be fascinated to know what reasoning is behind that, if not simply truculence against any amendment. Did it do something else as well?
    It interferes with the Commons ability to force it through.

  • TresTres Posts: 2,701

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    The police investigation into Angela Rayner is examining multiple allegations and is not merely limited to potential electoral law offences, The Times has learnt.

    At least a dozen officers at Greater Manchester police are investigating the Labour deputy leader over where she lived in the 2010s and the sale of her former council house in Stockport.

    The Times understands that police are examining tax matters and other issues on top of the question of whether Rayner gave false information for the electoral register when she lived between two former council houses in Stockport in the 2010s.

    While she has insisted she lived primarily in her own home, former neighbours said she was living with her husband just over a mile away.

    The issue is likely to overshadow the local elections next month as the investigation is expected to take weeks rather than days. A source said: “It’s very well resourced, it’s not a single issue. There is a volume of material and a clear public interest to fully investigate.”

    Stephen Watson, the chief constable, told local radio on Tuesday that “there are a number of assertions knocking about” and “we are going to get to the bottom of what has happened.”


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/angela-rayner-police-investigate-multiple-allegations-tax-matters-living-g6dt9sjqt

    They must have coppers sat on their arses with nowt to do if they can devote a dozen to Raynergate.
    Investigating whether she forgot to bring in her blue bin on 17 February 2013, presumably.
    Weak. Weak Weak
    Exactly. That's the point.

    I look forward to similar harassing expeditions being mounted against MPs from all parties. Especially the Tories.
    Your defence is Weak Weak Weak. Any MP... who is there to set an example.... and lead with integrity, if found, after an investigation to have broken the rules needs to be called to account. The shill cries of support from.the left are hollow...
    So you think the lockdown breaker Sunak should resign?
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