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edited March 26 in General
The worst appointment since Incitatus – politicalbetting.com

Come back Lee Anderson all is forgiven. https://t.co/ZGS6peJ8ul

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    edited March 26
    First. Who is/was Incitatus?
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 2,727
    edited March 26
    Having been invited by TSE I don't expect to be first.

    (Edit - close run, though. Bit of a scarper with LG at the other end.)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198
    Pace Tim Montgomerie, it was two junior ministers who resigned, not Cabinet ministers.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,102
    Neigh, @TSE is just horsing around.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,393
    tlg86 said:

    First. Who is/was Incitatus?

    A horse made a Senator by Caligula if memory serves.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215
    tlg86 said:

    First. Who is/was Incitatus?

    Incitatus (Latin pronunciation: [ɪŋkɪˈtaːtʊs]; meaning "swift" or "at full gallop") was the favourite horse of Roman Emperor Caligula (r. 37–41 AD).

    According to legend, Caligula planned to make the horse a consul, although ancient sources are clear that this did not occur.

    Supposedly, Incitatus had 18 servants for himself, he lived in a marble stable, walked in a harness decorated with rare and special stones/jewels, and dressed in purple (the colour of royalty) and ate from an ivory manger.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitatus
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215

    Pace Tim Montgomerie, it was two junior ministers who resigned, not Cabinet ministers.

    I do correct him in the header.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,987
    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198
    FPT English commentary on Welsh football should be behind the red button.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,102

    FPT English commentary on Welsh football should be behind the red button.

    Does it go to pens if it stays goalless?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215
    DavidL said:

    FPT English commentary on Welsh football should be behind the red button.

    Does it go to pens if it stays goalless?
    Extra time then penalties.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,174
    DavidL said:

    FPT English commentary on Welsh football should be behind the red button.

    Does it go to pens if it stays goalless?
    After extra time if it's still level
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    @Leon ‘s endorsement
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,900
    Engerland steal a bore draw
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Bellingham celebrating like he’s won the Euros!
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    Saddened you feel the need to slander a well-qualified horse, in order to make your otherwise excellent point.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Absolutely gorgeous ball from Maddison
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872

    FPT English commentary on Welsh football should be behind the red button.

    No red button on cable at least
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Some tired legs in Cardiff. Who wants it more?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198

    Absolutely gorgeous ball from Maddison

    Route One!
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198
    UK Treasury staff worked at Chinese bank accused of communist links
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68665302
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    TSE's unprovoked ultra-woke attack versus Incitatus, all to reminiscent, of similar iconoclasm aimed at statues of Traveler . . . just because Robert E. Lee was perched on his back!

    These eminent equines deserve our sympathy NOT our scorn. Fellow victims, every bit as exploited and oppressed as the plebes and slaves of ancient Rome AND antebellum Virginia.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,597
    tlg86 said:

    First. Who is/was Incitatus?

    It is said that the Roman Emperor Caligula made his horse "Incitatus" a Senator in the Roman Senate. This was depicted in the BBC TV series "I Claudius" and the 2000's TV series "Nero"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074ssf/i-claudius-9-hail-who
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J6-t2mtNtU

    I understand that other posters have said this is apocryphal and they may be right, but y'know, print the legend... :)
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    ToryJim said:

    tlg86 said:

    First. Who is/was Incitatus?

    A horse made a Senator by Caligula if memory serves.
    Smarter than Coach Tuberville, a horse's ass made a Senator by Alabama.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198
    edited March 26

    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    @Leon ‘s endorsement
    Anticipated rallying around the government after the Baltimore Bridge disaster perhaps? President Biden has pledged to rebuild it, and named what seemed like a dozen agencies on scene.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10YWfGKqsco
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,327
    At least Incitatus was good over four furlongs.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,150
    Don't get too excited. They will withdraw the Tweet, re-edit it to remove the obvious idiocy and then upload v2.

    And find that Jacob Young is the new Deputy.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,469
    The story of Caligula's horse inspired this memorable put down by an American politician*, objecting to an appointment: At least the emperor sent the whole horse.

    (*Probably said by a senator in the 1800s, but I can't recall any more at the moment.)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,482
    Gullis, the poor man's Lee Anderson.

    Judge a man by the company he chooses to keep.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,783
    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,327
    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    Today was I think the first for a while that Biden's been ahead in the polling average - not by enough but there are signs there's a slight shift among independents as Trump has become more visible and people have been reminded why they kicked him out in 2020.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,132
    Foxy said:

    Gullis, the poor man's Lee Anderson.

    Judge a man by the company he chooses to keep.

    15p Gullis?

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,229
    Worst appointment since Prince Harry was put in charge of the Invictus Games?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,191
    edited March 26

    Don't get too excited. They will withdraw the Tweet, re-edit it to remove the obvious idiocy and then upload v2.

    And find that Jacob Young is the new Deputy.

    Already done, for the London video, I believe. And the fake footage got the video, and its message, a shedload more exposure. If it weren’t from the Tories, you might think it was clever.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,393
    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    He isn’t correct.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,132
    Coming down with my second bad cold inside a month. :disappointed:

    Maybe I'll join @Leon in the warm Columbian jungle.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,900
    edited March 26
    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    Resign as party leader confirming he will go to the Palace for dissolution once a new leader is selected and continue as PM until the election leaving the new leader to run the campaign and put their offer to the electorate is the only way I can see them getting away with it as it were
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,132
    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    John Major style: put up or shut up or whatever it was.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465

    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    @Leon ‘s endorsement
    Anticipated rallying around the government after the Baltimore Bridge disaster perhaps? President Biden has pledged to rebuild it, and named what seemed like a dozen agencies on scene.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10YWfGKqsco
    Note that last year, a major highway overpass in Philadelphia was destroyed by accident, also on Interstate 90 the main north-south (also visa-versa) transportation artery from Maine to Florida).

    State transportation agency said it would take months to repair.

    HOWEVER, the newly-elected governor thought otherwise. And so did Biden. Thus got fixed in weeks.

    Trump TALKED and TALKED and TALKED about rebuilding national infrastructure. And did squat.

    In contrast to President Biden and Transportation Secretary Buttigieg.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 4,787

    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    John Major style: put up or shut up or whatever it was.
    It must be an appealing option - let someone else take the fall.
  • Jim_the_LurkerJim_the_Lurker Posts: 80
    edited March 26
    I guess being kind to the Prime Minister he may feel this appointment is simply a like-for-like replacement.

    And I can see why he may think that way for many reasons. To a certain extent the Deputy Chair (and Party Chair for that matter) are really a ceremonial cheerleader. Why would you want a thinker when you can have a performing seal?

    So I am not sure what this appointment shows - the dearth of talent within the current Conservative Party ranks or the dearth of political nous of the current incumbent of Number 10.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,393

    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    Resign as party leader confirming he will go to the Palace for dissolution once a new leader is selected and continue as PM until the election leaving the new leader to run the campaign and put their offer to the electorate is the only way I can see them getting away with it as it were
    It’s never going to happen. Sunak is far from perfect but his biggest flaw is attempting to lead a party that is entirely unleadable. Half of them have checked out early and the other half are busy constructing ever wilder schemes and fantasy scenarios that don’t even have the perverse virtue of having been dreamt up whilst on a three day bender under the influence of Colombia’s most notorious export.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,393

    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    John Major style: put up or shut up or whatever it was.
    Alas the present leadership rules don’t permit such a gambit.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,344

    And I can see why he may think that way for many reasons. To a certain extent the Deputy Chair (and Party Chair for that matter) are really a ceremonial cheerleader. Why would you want a thinker when you can have a performing seal?

    Ask France :smile: ?

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,132
    MJW said:

    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    Today was I think the first for a while that Biden's been ahead in the polling average - not by enough but there are signs there's a slight shift among independents as Trump has become more visible and people have been reminded why they kicked him out in 2020.
    Maybe the golf thing really has hurt Trump?

    Biden certainly has made a deal out of orange face's pathetic whining about winning some kind of plastic trophy at his own golf club.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Wales would take a shootout now
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,335

    It's often claimed that Sunak is a moderate who is trying to manage a crazy party.

    The alternative is too often neglected - that Sunak is himself a loony, who is better than the others at pretending to be relatively normal.

    "Loony" is probably going too far. In any other Conservative government, Sunak would have been right wing but not in a batso way. Think Peter Lilley's tiny Asian cousin. Two bad things have happened to expose him, though.

    The most important one is that pretty much anyone more centrist than him has either been expelled or expelled themselves. So he's stuck being the relative (and it is only relative) moderate.

    The other problem is that the Conservatives have had at least fourteen, and in some ways forty five, years basically getting what they want. Diminishing returns set in a while back, and so the Conservtives are having to go harder and harder at stuff that's probably not a good idea.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,198

    It's often claimed that Sunak is a moderate who is trying to manage a crazy party.

    The alternative is too often neglected - that Sunak is himself a loony, who is better than the others at pretending to be relatively normal.

    Former minister Robin Walker made the same point in his Times Radio exit interview that has been made here, that Liz Truss campaigned to Remain but was seen as a Brexiteer, while Rishi campaigned for Leave but people think of him as a Remainer.

    Conservative ministers queued up to quit Boris Johnson’s government | Exit Interviews
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=062ts1yDvME
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,344
    edited March 26
    I see that we can all buy our Donald J Trump endorsed Bible, for $59.99.

    https://godblesstheusabible.com/

    The only one endorsed by DJT.

    KJV.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,798
    A favoured bit of concrete of my acquaintance, lit up iirc with pale yellow strips of light after dark. (Fpt?)

    https://postcardcafe.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/moore-street-substation.jpg
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,185

    GIN1138 said:

    If Montgomerie is correct, perhaps Rishi will just resign and trigger a leadership content without having to be forced out?

    John Major style: put up or shut up or whatever it was.
    Redwood versus Deadwood :lol:
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,335
    MattW said:

    I see that we can all buy our Donald J Trump endorsed Bible, for $59.99.

    https://godblesstheusabible.com/

    The only one endorsed by DJT.

    KJV.

    Is it the one that accidentally rendered one of the commandments as "Thou shalt commit adultery"?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,344

    MattW said:

    I see that we can all buy our Donald J Trump endorsed Bible, for $59.99.

    https://godblesstheusabible.com/

    The only one endorsed by DJT.

    KJV.

    Is it the one that accidentally rendered one of the commandments as "Thou shalt commit adultery"?
    I think it follows the "easier to ask for forgiveness than ask permission" principle.
  • And on the third day, Lord Trump proclaimed, "thou must touch the pussy"
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872
    Wales break out into an impromptu national anthem before the shootout
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465

    MJW said:

    Barnesian said:

    Trump drifting a bit on Betfair. And Republican as winning party also drifting. But no new negative news as far as I can see.

    Today was I think the first for a while that Biden's been ahead in the polling average - not by enough but there are signs there's a slight shift among independents as Trump has become more visible and people have been reminded why they kicked him out in 2020.
    Maybe the golf thing really has hurt Trump?

    Biden certainly has made a deal out of orange face's pathetic whining about winning some kind of plastic trophy at his own golf club.
    Tee time hath come for Trump?

    By fatally alienating THE critical keystone of the Republican Party = reactionary golfers who willingly swallow any old guff EXCEPT when it comes to the Sacred Mysteries of Golf.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,167
    The header is nonsense.

    Incitatus would have made a relatively excellent consul - no rash legislation, wars on woke, or flying around in helicopters. I'm quite sure he wouldn't have been putting up toe curling political ads on Twatter, either.
  • MattW said:

    I see that we can all buy our Donald J Trump endorsed Bible, for $59.99.

    https://godblesstheusabible.com/

    The only one endorsed by DJT.

    KJV.

    This story reminded me of when Gove sent a bible to every school in (at least) England and Wales. In my mind the so-and-so had provided a forward to the f*cking bible. Which always amused me. Fortunately for him I misremembered. It only came with a line about it being a gift from the Secretary of State for Education (like a modern day Gideon or something). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/michael-gove-defends-school-bibles-scheme-7788925.html

    The heady days of coalition.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,469
    On a lighter note: Washington state Governor Jay Inslee just signed the "Stripper's Bill of Rights".
    https://komonews.com/news/local/governor-signs-strippers-bill-of-rights-into-law-paying-way-for-alcohol-sales-crime-liquor-nude-dancer-exotic-legislature-sb6105-lewd-conduct-bars-night-clubs-lgbtq-adult-entertainment-raids-capitol-hill-washington-olympia-state-strip-booze-capitol

    "“It's pretty simple why we are passing this bill. These are working folks and working people deserve safety in the environment in which they work,” the governor said."

    (I did learn something from the news coverage: Libertarians will be pleased to learn that the strippers are independent contractors, who actually pay the joints for the right to "perform" in them.)
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465

    And on the third day, Lord Trump proclaimed, "thou must touch the pussy"

    How catty of you . . . and him!
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150

    It's often claimed that Sunak is a moderate who is trying to manage a crazy party.

    The alternative is too often neglected - that Sunak is himself a loony, who is better than the others at pretending to be relatively normal.

    Former minister Robin Walker made the same point in his Times Radio exit interview that has been made here, that Liz Truss campaigned to Remain but was seen as a Brexiteer, while Rishi campaigned for Leave but people think of him as a Remainer.

    Conservative ministers queued up to quit Boris Johnson’s government | Exit Interviews
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=062ts1yDvME
    Yes i would guess Rishi to be a remainer by demeanour and outlook a posh talking city boy.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,079
    Bugger.
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150

    The header is nonsense.

    Incitatus would have made a relatively excellent consul - no rash legislation, wars on woke, or flying around in helicopters. I'm quite sure he wouldn't have been putting up toe curling political ads on Twatter, either.

    I do love your cryptic posts.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,872

    Bugger.

    Every Polish penalty was a peach. Harsh for Wales
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,215
    The Welsh should stick to the rugby.

    Oh.


  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,469
    I don't know how popular the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip is in the UK -- but I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the Loser. There are bits of dialog in it that are spookily similar to what the Loser says from time. Both, for instance, insist they are geniuses.

    Anyone who has spent much time in an American elementary school will recognize the type.

    (For those not familiar with the strip: Calvin is a bratty six year old, who is desperate for attention. Here's today's: https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/03/26

    From time to time, Watterson uses Calvin to make his own points, which are the conventional ones an ad man might have made back then.)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,167
    edited March 26

    The Welsh should stick to the rugby.

    Oh.


    Perhaps this as a gift - https://barnthespoon.com/courses-books-gifts/spoon-carving-day-class
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 4,711
    In 2010 70% were satisfied with the NHS . In 1997 that was 37% and now its down to 24% .

    You don’t need to be Einstein to work out the clear correlation.
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    Despite talk of global warming to me the uk climate seems to be getting worse with relentless cloud and rain. There is a case that a warmer Atlantic generates more moisture and could lead to a worsening of our climate even as the rest of the world heats up.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,393
    edited March 26
    After the Tampa Bridge disaster in 1980, they re-built the bridge with so-called "dolphins" next to the bridge columns to stop boats from hitting the columns. It's interesting that they didn't add them to the Baltimore bridge around the same time.
  • Trent said:

    Despite talk of global warming to me the uk climate seems to be getting worse with relentless cloud and rain. There is a case that a warmer Atlantic generates more moisture and could lead to a worsening of our climate even as the rest of the world heats up.

    Next will be something about Ukraine.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 46,662

    Trent said:

    Despite talk of global warming to me the uk climate seems to be getting worse with relentless cloud and rain. There is a case that a warmer Atlantic generates more moisture and could lead to a worsening of our climate even as the rest of the world heats up.

    Next will be something about Ukraine.
    @trent is absolutely spot on. I might even prefer him to the brilliant @Truman
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    And this.
    Last July was the dullest for 31 years. 3 of the 4 dullest Augusts on record have occurred since 2008.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 3,796

    Worst appointment since Prince Harry was put in charge of the Invictus Games?

    Nah, since Prince Edward and "Royal It's A Knockout".
  • Trent said:

    And this.
    Last July was the dullest for 31 years. 3 of the 4 dullest Augusts on record have occurred since 2008.

    Ukraine.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 46,662
    2 hours into a KLM biz class flight to Amsterdam. ONE GLASS OF BUBBLES

    grrrrrr
  • I don't know how popular the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip is in the UK -- but I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the Loser. There are bits of dialog in it that are spookily similar to what the Loser says from time. Both, for instance, insist they are geniuses.

    Everyone should read Calvin and Hobbes. Watterson is a genius.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,167
    edited March 26
    Andy_JS said:

    After the Tampa Bridge disaster in 1980, they re-built the bridge with so-called "dolphins" next to the bridge columns to stop boats from hitting the columns. It's interesting that they didn't add them to the Baltimore bridge around the same time.

    There were dolphins for the bridge. See the round object next to the ship here -

    image
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,312
    I see Andy Cooke is saying that LibDems in Didcot and Wantage are scrupulous about bar charts. I actually received one of them this week - it's the most distorted bar chart that I've ever seen. It's also effectively about a different constituency, as D&W has lost 15,000 mostly Tory and LibDem rural voters from the old Wantage seat. And it's from 2019.

    As in mid-Beds, it's a real problem in partly rural seats that LibDems feel they own the right to oppose the Tories, but the effect is that where there's a major swing to Labour it gets put at risk by LibDem leaflets that falsely purport to show it's not happening. There certainly are seats where the LibDems are the only serious challengers to the Tories - I can think of two in Surrey that I know very well. But they don't do their cause any good by trying the same tactic in seats that are effectively three-way marginals.

    I'm chair of D&W Labour, and it's now a Labour target, so I'll be spending all my time here until the election. Perhaps Andy and I can have a PB bet on the outcome.




  • LeonLeon Posts: 46,662
    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    Link?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,897

    I don't know how popular the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip is in the UK -- but I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the Loser. There are bits of dialog in it that are spookily similar to what the Loser says from time. Both, for instance, insist they are geniuses.

    Anyone who has spent much time in an American elementary school will recognize the type.

    (For those not familiar with the strip: Calvin is a bratty six year old, who is desperate for attention. Here's today's: https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2024/03/26

    From time to time, Watterson uses Calvin to make his own points, which are the conventional ones an ad man might have made back then.)

    Quite a few servers in our nanotech facility are named after Calvin and Hobbes characters. Makes a change from Lord of the RIngs references.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,393
    edited March 26

    Andy_JS said:

    After the Tampa Bridge disaster in 1980, they re-built the bridge with so-called "dolphins" next to the bridge columns to stop boats from hitting the columns. It's interesting that they didn't add them to the Baltimore bridge around the same time.

    There were dolphins for the bridge. See the round object next to the ship here -

    image
    May be wrong but I think those are actually dolphins for power lines next to the bridge, not the bridge itself. (I saw a photo earlier from an angle that seemed to show this pretty clearly, but I can't remember how/where to find the image again to post a link).
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,897
    Leon said:

    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    Link?
    Is that at '1990' reference and a cry for help?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,798

    The Welsh should stick to the rugby.

    Oh.


    Perhaps this as a gift - https://barnthespoon.com/courses-books-gifts/spoon-carving-day-class
    We actually posess a commemorative wooden spoon from my wife's workplace, 50 years of the company or some such.

    Nobody told them about the UK connotations, I guess.

  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    Leon said:

    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    Link?
    https://community.netweather.tv/topic/99729-moans-ramps-and-banter/page/169/
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,327
    Trent said:

    It's often claimed that Sunak is a moderate who is trying to manage a crazy party.

    The alternative is too often neglected - that Sunak is himself a loony, who is better than the others at pretending to be relatively normal.

    Former minister Robin Walker made the same point in his Times Radio exit interview that has been made here, that Liz Truss campaigned to Remain but was seen as a Brexiteer, while Rishi campaigned for Leave but people think of him as a Remainer.

    Conservative ministers queued up to quit Boris Johnson’s government | Exit Interviews
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=062ts1yDvME
    Yes i would guess Rishi to be a remainer by demeanour and outlook a posh talking city boy.
    I think it's more that 'Brexit' or at least the version of it that those who shout loudest demanding it be a holy writ has become associated with a "facts don't matter, get out of my way squares" populist attitude to politics. You had Boris boosterism (ironically perhaps kept on the road by Sunak reining him in a bit) and then the Truss Bonds-town Massacre.

    Sunak isn't that to a fault in that quite often he'll trumpet some piece of minutiae that proves the government's doing great when quite obviously the public mood feels the opposite. But tries to ape appease the right with policy direction in a way that never pleases them because doesn't show enough "belief".

    Which arguably leaves you in the worst position (other than everyone thinking you're mad like Truss), because liberals hate you for proposing very right-wing things, while the right hate you for not going to the barricades and preaching 'belief' in their impossibilist creeds.

    It's no accident one of Reform's policies is to staff institutions with "believers" (whatever that actually means). You have to have the religious fervour and believe in the miracles or you're not a "true" Brexiteer for some.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    For who(m) was Prince Harry's leadership of the Invictus Games "the worst appointment"?

    For the veterans? Somehow doubt that, despite his re-Markle-ble transformation from Royalist Icon to Woke Menace. Either way he's a draw - and one of them.

    For The Firm? Now, of course. But need NOT have been so!

    Things have been touch and go (to put it most mildly) ever since Harry Met Meghan. However, even hardened royalists (are their any other kind?) will likely concur that the English-Welsh-Scots-British Monarchy has dealt with other, even more demanding divas - and survived.

  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    After the Tampa Bridge disaster in 1980, they re-built the bridge with so-called "dolphins" next to the bridge columns to stop boats from hitting the columns. It's interesting that they didn't add them to the Baltimore bridge around the same time.

    There were dolphins for the bridge. See the round object next to the ship here -

    image
    May be wrong but I think those are actually dolphins for power lines next to the bridge, not the bridge itself. (I saw a photo earlier from an angle that seemed to show this pretty clearly, but I can't remember how/where to find the image again to post a link).
    Very strange world we live in at present. All sorts of weird things happening.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 46,662
    Trent said:

    Leon said:

    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    Link?
    https://community.netweather.tv/topic/99729-moans-ramps-and-banter/page/169/
    Yes I just found it. Ta

    Looks like I’m flying back to continued winter. In late March

    Britain is becoming uninhabitable
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,298

    And on the third day, Lord Trump proclaimed, "thou must touch the pussy"

    The old King James version still uses 'grabeth', which many prefer.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    Pro_Rata said:

    The Welsh should stick to the rugby.

    Oh.


    Perhaps this as a gift - https://barnthespoon.com/courses-books-gifts/spoon-carving-day-class
    We actually posess a commemorative wooden spoon from my wife's workplace, 50 years of the company or some such.

    Nobody told them about the UK connotations, I guess.

    As an American, was baffled UNTIL googling.

    Yet another example of British exceptionalism.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 4,787
    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    You should try out Finland at this time of year. Bitterly cold, remains of ice everywhere. It goes up to 5 degrees and people start having barbeques mistaking it for the Spring, then a load of wet snow comes. Arriving back to England you are overwhelmed with joy and optimism.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 46,662
    darkage said:

    Trent said:

    And this from netweather forum.

    The ongoing eternal autumn-without-the-leaves began on June 26th, so today we enter its tenth month.

    If anyone had told me 9 months ago that the bad weather would continue until beyond Easter next year, I wouldn't have believed them.

    I suspect we are likely to record the wettest and dullest GMT period on record, and I suspect that only drought in May and June will prevent this being the wettest July-to-June period (mid year to mid year) on record.

    It really is an extraordinary event, and not in a good way. For longevity rather than intensity, probably the most extreme weather period of any sort I can remember.

    Must admit this relentless bad weather and the absolute dismal state of our country means im seriously considering leaving the uk now.

    You should try out Finland at this time of year. Bitterly cold, remains of ice everywhere. It goes up to 5 degrees and people start having barbeques mistaking it for the Spring, then a load of wet snow comes. Arriving back to England you are overwhelmed with joy and optimism.
    Another excellent rant from that site

    “This really is an unprecedented weather event within my lifetime. Summer 2023, autumn 2023, winter 23/24 and now spring 2024 all likely to be amongst the 10 worst examples of the given season that I've experienced. Constant endless cyclonic SW-lies with only short breaks, it's hard to believe that the many changes of season since the end of June last year have not triggered a lasting disruption of the pattern.“

    Britain has become a kind of southerly Iceland only without the prosperity and free energy and much more unwanted immigration

    All we have to do to stop the boats is send the met office to Calais with a few weather charts
  • TrentTrent Posts: 150
    Watch this. Lara Logan talking to Steve Bannon about the Baltimore Bridge. Listen with an open mind.

    Lara Logan Sounds the Alarm on the Baltimore Bridge Collapse

    “We are in an undeclared war & Intelligence Agencies are Telling me it was an Act Cyber Terrorism”

    • Why is the Biden Administration telling the country when his own Intelligence Agencies are telling him it is?

    • Those who are on the inside, critical infrastructure, DHS, and Intel agencies know are telling Lara this was a cyber attack on the critical infrastructure of the US

    • The I-94 corridor on the eastern seaboard is literally what connects the North and South

    • This was a brilliant strategic attack on one of the most important supply chain in America

    https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1772754425938895177?s=20
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    With respect to the collapse of Baltimore's Francis Scot Key Bridge (named for UK's least favorite songwriter) this is major transportation infrastructure but NOT critical for most drivers, either those commuting & etc. within the Baltimore region AND through traffic to & from Philadelphia, Washington DC and beyond.

    The most serious impacts will be to maritime shipping, both in the water and on the road infrastructure serving truck traffic in and out of the Port of Baltimore.
  • Trent said:

    Watch this. Lara Logan talking to Steve Bannon about the Baltimore Bridge. Listen with an open mind.

    Lara Logan Sounds the Alarm on the Baltimore Bridge Collapse

    “We are in an undeclared war & Intelligence Agencies are Telling me it was an Act Cyber Terrorism”

    • Why is the Biden Administration telling the country when his own Intelligence Agencies are telling him it is?

    • Those who are on the inside, critical infrastructure, DHS, and Intel agencies know are telling Lara this was a cyber attack on the critical infrastructure of the US

    • The I-94 corridor on the eastern seaboard is literally what connects the North and South

    • This was a brilliant strategic attack on one of the most important supply chain in America

    https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1772754425938895177?s=20

    Oh for fuck sake.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,465
    First time (of few) that yours truly first laid eyes on Baltimore harbor, in early 1960s, it was a nasty sewer. Darkish color with dead fish and plenty of crap floating about. Took the boat to Fort McHenry which was pretty cool, except for slight stench wafting from the polluted waters.

    In subsequent decades there was massive cleanup, as with the Great Lakes and other degraded waterways across the US. Thanks to the proto-Woke travesty of the Endangered Species Act and other Eco-terrorist outrages from the 1970s forward.
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