The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
The blood money not buying as much success as Toon fans with no moral compass had hoped.
It isn't nice to have to turn your back on your team, but it had to be done. At least being from south of the Tyne I've still got The Heed to cheer on.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
Not sure I agree. They both imply widespread popularity, especially as 'universally' is almost always used non-literally.
Can we both at least agree it was bad grammar? One or other would have done.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
You're just upset that you weren't taught to talk proper like what I do.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
You're just upset that you weren't taught to talk proper like what I do.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
Not sure I agree. They both imply widespread popularity, especially as 'universally' is almost always used non-literally.
Can we both at least agree it was bad grammar? One or other would have done.
It could well be bad grammar, but that's not the reason I pointed it out; I did so because of its inherent contradiction, which clearly happened because RP was trying to make Ulez out to be more popular than it is. Something cannot be 'largely universally popular'; it's like saying 'I am largely starving to death' when you're hungry.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
You're just upset that you weren't taught to talk proper like what I do.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
The new Conservative MP for Uxbridge was actually an admin for one of the FB groups celebrating this kind of stuff.
"Rule of Law" party.
LTNs are in general an excellent thing, and we need them everywhere - to follow the majority of the country that has been using modal filtering in almost all new developments since the 1960s.. We already have the data from 2020 pre-COVID that they make roads much safer.
ULEZ compliance was already above 95% 4 months ago; it's just a matter of time for the mouth-breathing conspiraloon perps to come to terms with reality.
Don't tell them about the likely continued trend towards 20mph limits in residential areas, for which we have about 25 years of data showing road safety improvement, or we may have an uptick in apoplectic fits.
Not much Christmas tolerance on that one for me, I'm afraid,
The greatest British institution - the local pub - is entirely reliant on walkable neighbourhoods.
Not sure on that as a matter of fact. The UK tolerates drink-driving more than every other country in Europe (except Malta). Our drink-driving limits having been an outlier on the "tolerate drink driving" side for a couple of decades afaik.
There's a difference between 'tolerating drink driving' and having the highest blood alcohol level allowed in Europe.
There is little difference in safety between what we will allow and what, say, France will allow in alcohol level. it's a balance of risks.
What we don't do is tolerate drink driving. socially it's as frowned upon as driving without a seatbelt or smoking has become over the last 20 years. go back 50 years and drink driving was the norm but now it's rare. Peer pressure does a lot.
Indeed, in the real world France has double the proportion of accidents involving alcohol than the UK does.
Drink driving is not tolerated at all in the UK, quite appropriately, it is completely frowned upon.
Yup.
Drink driving is now a matter of people who have drunk vastly more than any sensible limit. Not people who’ve had 1.5 pints.
Lowering the U.K. limit is a Performative Dance policy.
1) Something must be done 2) This is something, cheap and easy to enact. 3) Therefore we must do this.
I'm assuming this driver had had about 501 over the 8:
To cause that amount of damage with an ordinary car is truly remarkable.
There’s some iffy housing in Grays but I don’t recall Argent St. as being that bad.
I lived there when they were being built. I forget which developer, but I recall they were all absolutely standard quickly built timber framed houses with a brick skin, built as cheaply as possible but no worse than similar houses anywhere else. I'm not surprised that a well-struck blow would take the entire corner off.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Well my reasoning is backed up by polls. Yours...?
How is the completely contractictory and therefore meaningless phrase '*largely* *universally* popular' backed up by polls? If something is universally popular, it isn't largely popular, and vice versa.
Isn't 'largely' and 'universally' tautological rather than contradictory?
No, a tautology would be the use of two phrases that both meant the same thing. Largely and universally contradict each other.
Not sure I agree. They both imply widespread popularity, especially as 'universally' is almost always used non-literally.
Can we both at least agree it was bad grammar? One or other would have done.
Bad style, surely? Nothing wrong with the grammar.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
Nobody, including Starmer, seems to want the Red wall votes. It would serve the other parties completely right if Farage came in and swept the board there.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
The new Conservative MP for Uxbridge was actually an admin for one of the FB groups celebrating this kind of stuff.
"Rule of Law" party.
LTNs are in general an excellent thing, and we need them everywhere - to follow the majority of the country that has been using modal filtering in almost all new developments since the 1960s.. We already have the data from 2020 pre-COVID that they make roads much safer.
ULEZ compliance was already above 95% 4 months ago; it's just a matter of time for the mouth-breathing conspiraloon perps to come to terms with reality.
Don't tell them about the likely continued trend towards 20mph limits in residential areas, for which we have about 25 years of data showing road safety improvement, or we may have an uptick in apoplectic fits.
Not much Christmas tolerance on that one for me, I'm afraid,
The greatest British institution - the local pub - is entirely reliant on walkable neighbourhoods.
Not sure on that as a matter of fact. The UK tolerates drink-driving more than every other country in Europe (except Malta). Our drink-driving limits having been an outlier on the "tolerate drink driving" side for a couple of decades afaik.
There's a difference between 'tolerating drink driving' and having the highest blood alcohol level allowed in Europe.
There is little difference in safety between what we will allow and what, say, France will allow in alcohol level. it's a balance of risks.
What we don't do is tolerate drink driving. socially it's as frowned upon as driving without a seatbelt or smoking has become over the last 20 years. go back 50 years and drink driving was the norm but now it's rare. Peer pressure does a lot.
Indeed, in the real world France has double the proportion of accidents involving alcohol than the UK does.
Drink driving is not tolerated at all in the UK, quite appropriately, it is completely frowned upon.
Yup.
Drink driving is now a matter of people who have drunk vastly more than any sensible limit. Not people who’ve had 1.5 pints.
Lowering the U.K. limit is a Performative Dance policy.
1) Something must be done 2) This is something, cheap and easy to enact. 3) Therefore we must do this.
I'm assuming this driver had had about 501 over the 8:
To cause that amount of damage with an ordinary car is truly remarkable.
There’s some iffy housing in Grays but I don’t recall Argent St. as being that bad.
I lived there when they were being built. I forget which developer, but I recall they were all absolutely standard quickly built timber framed houses with a brick skin, built as cheaply as possible but no worse than similar houses anywhere else. I'm not surprised that a well-struck blow would take the entire corner off.
That particular house though is clearly block & brick cavity walls.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
Nobody, including Starmer, seems to want the Red wall votes. It would serve the other parties completely right if Farage came in and swept the board there.
There has already been a groundswell of people who went Lab > UKIP or now Lab > Con > BXP/ReFUK. I am expecting that there will be more votes than ever for these hard right parties in the red wall, but it won't win them a seat and will help Labour reclaim seats.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
I wouldn’t think of myself as right of centre really. I think voting to end FOM because of the effect it had on the poorest paid in this country is a left wing reason, and that’s the only reason I voted leave. UKIP had a lot of former ex Labour voters and councillors as members during the 2011-2016 period.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
I wouldn’t think of myself as right of centre really. I think voting to end FOM because of the effect it had on the poorest paid in this country is a left wing reason, and that’s the only reason I voted leave. UKIP had a lot of former ex Labour voters and councillors as members during the 2011-2016 period.
I have you down as a traditional Labour voter, pissed off by woke shite and handwringing. But ready to return if and when the party gives an indication that it's policies align with the interests of those people the party was founded to represent. A key demographic.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
Are the odds of a 1997 result increasing or decreasing?
From which side?
It's my mental starting point. Starmer isn't Blair, and it's an awful lot of gains at once, but there's also the lack of economic boom and Sunak's combination of silver spoon and tin ear to consider.
I can't make up my mind whether there will be a small Labour win, a 1997-style landslide or wipe out for the Tories.
1997 is my reference point too. The Major Government, even at the end, was far superior to the current shambles. They were still competently led, with a capable top team (Heseltine, Hurd, Clarke, Howard), and were largely unable to do much because they had lost their majority and were being held hostage by their own 'bastards'. They were tired, had lost all credibility in 1992 when we fell out of the ERM and never recovered it, but despite all that still polled 31%. So if politics is fair (and it isn't) they should do far worse next time - 25% would be more than they deserve, but I'd be surprised if they go that low but may 28% is possible.
As for Labour, Starmer is indeed no Blair - but maybe boring but competent is what the country wants right now. On the other hand, the Labour team seems as focussed and on-message as the Blair team ever was. The bus is definitely parked, as the Header says. So in a fair political world I might expect Labour to be close to, but not quite at the vote share achieved by Blair - so maybe 40/41%? But the Tories are worse so do they match Blair's 43% after all?
Of course in 1997 the Lib Dems were stronger but actually not all that strong and only got 17%, which was their weakest result between 1979 and 2015. Despite a falling vote they still gained 30 seats from the Tories (Lib Dem seats are negatively correlated with the Tory vote, and bear no relationship to their own). So even current vote share might point to quite a few LD gains, especially if the mood is anti-Tory rather than pro-Labour and voters fall in tactically behind whoever is most likely to dump them out. Another 1-2% as minds sharpen perhaps, 13%?
The joker in the pack is Reform, I really don't believe most polls as there is little evidence in actual voting to suggest they will get 5% let alone 10%. But if Farage makes a return all bets are off, and the Tories are sunk without trace.
And I can see that if I add up C/L/LD that leaves about 20% unaccounted for which is too high so it will be interesting to see where that vote ends up.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
I wouldn’t think of myself as right of centre really. I think voting to end FOM because of the effect it had on the poorest paid in this country is a left wing reason, and that’s the only reason I voted leave. UKIP had a lot of former ex Labour voters and councillors as members during the 2011-2016 period.
I have you down as a traditional Labour voter, pissed off by woke shite and handwringing. But ready to return if and when the party gives an indication that it's policies align with the interests of those people the party was founded to represent. A key demographic.
Apologies if I have called this wrong.
Well, traditional in the sense that my family always voted Labour because left wing people were nice and Tories were nasty. I asked my parents permission to vote Tory in 2019 and said I wouldn’t if it upset them.
I went to Uni in my 30s, in 2010, as a mature student, and the general left wing, quite spiteful, atmosphere aligned with the studying I did made me realise it wasn’t as simple as I’d always thought. It would be nice to be able to vote Labour again, but obviously I can’t whilst Sir Keir is about.
I think you’re pretty much right. I agree with most politicians on something really anyway. I agreed with Corbyn on a lot of things, I wish he had come out as a Leaver. I liked Ed Miliband more than Cameron and wish he’d won, on a personal level, even though I think that would have led to him being slaughtered by Farage.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
Nobody, including Starmer, seems to want the Red wall votes. It would serve the other parties completely right if Farage came in and swept the board there.
Always a mistake to lump voters together, as in: 'Red wall votes'. Red wall seats will be decided by a combination of swing voters (a minority) and the motivation levels of committed voters. Appealing to some of those will put off others.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
Nobody, including Starmer, seems to want the Red wall votes. It would serve the other parties completely right if Farage came in and swept the board there.
Always a mistake to lump voters together, as in: 'Red wall votes'. Red wall seats will be decided by a combination of swing voters (a minority) and the motivation levels of committed voters. Appealing to some of those will put off others.
The big unknown are the never voters. They popped up unexpectedly to vote for Brexit (after a *sensational* bit of targeting by the Vote Leave campaign), didn't vote in 2017, and then came back out again in 2019 to vote for Brexit again.
I expect that almost all will be non-voters in 2024. Polls suggest that very few will be Tory again, but they also suggest few will switch to Labour. Perhaps ReFUK may pick up some of them - depends on whether Nigel is front and centre.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
Are the odds of a 1997 result increasing or decreasing?
From which side?
It's my mental starting point. Starmer isn't Blair, and it's an awful lot of gains at once, but there's also the lack of economic boom and Sunak's combination of silver spoon and tin ear to consider.
I can't make up my mind whether there will be a small Labour win, a 1997-style landslide or wipe out for the Tories.
1997 is my reference point too. The Major Government, even at the end, was far superior to the current shambles. They were still competently led, with a capable top team (Heseltine, Hurd, Clarke, Howard), and were largely unable to do much because they had lost their majority and were being held hostage by their own 'bastards'. They were tired, had lost all credibility in 1992 when we fell out of the ERM and never recovered it, but despite all that still polled 31%. So if politics is fair (and it isn't) they should do far worse next time - 25% would be more than they deserve, but I'd be surprised if they go that low but may 28% is possible.
As for Labour, Starmer is indeed no Blair - but maybe boring but competent is what the country wants right now. On the other hand, the Labour team seems as focussed and on-message as the Blair team ever was. The bus is definitely parked, as the Header says. So in a fair political world I might expect Labour to be close to, but not quite at the vote share achieved by Blair - so maybe 40/41%? But the Tories are worse so do they match Blair's 43% after all?
Of course in 1997 the Lib Dems were stronger but actually not all that strong and only got 17%, which was their weakest result between 1979 and 2015. Despite a falling vote they still gained 30 seats from the Tories (Lib Dem seats are negatively correlated with the Tory vote, and bear no relationship to their own). So even current vote share might point to quite a few LD gains, especially if the mood is anti-Tory rather than pro-Labour and voters fall in tactically behind whoever is most likely to dump them out. Another 1-2% as minds sharpen perhaps, 13%?
The joker in the pack is Reform, I really don't believe most polls as there is little evidence in actual voting to suggest they will get 5% let alone 10%. But if Farage makes a return all bets are off, and the Tories are sunk without trace.
And I can see that if I add up C/L/LD that leaves about 20% unaccounted for which is too high so it will be interesting to see where that vote ends up.
Small point. Douglas Hurd had stood down from cabinet before 97. Malcolm Rifkind was the foreign secretary.
If Brexit was about sovereignty, (which I don’t think it was, it was about immigration) it wasn’t about the public voting for it so MPs could then vote against it, which would be absolutely ludicrous.
If Brexit was about sovereignty, (which I don’t think it was, it was about immigration) it wasn’t about the public voting for it so MPs could then vote against it, which would be absolutely ludicrous.
It was immigration for you, it was sovereignty for quite a few others on here. It was not sending money to Europe but spending it on the NHS, for some. It was freedom to pursue a socialist agenda for many on the far left. Oh, and bizarrely, it was 'supporting our farmers' for my father-in-law.
Brexit was cleverly painted by the Leave campaign as all things to all people.
It has of course turned out to be none of those things.
I'm not sure I have any more faith in long term economic forecasts now than I had back in 2016.
I am glad that the UK economy is performing adequately right now, but that shouldn't blind us to some of the challenges ahead.
Not sure if the German and French economies doing badly is 'good news' for the UK, though it may help reconcile some to Brexit.
You are, of course, correct. The relative decline of the European economy will be a drag on our own growth. We need to develop new markets for our products and services.
Which has been an issue for decades and was precisely why we were right to leave the sclerotic European Union.
kamski puts the cart before the horse in thinking that Brexiteers are glad to see Europe failing, Europe failing is disappointing and bad for Britain but is not new, did not begin after 2016 and is why Brexit was a good idea not vice-versa.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
You were duped then when you voted for Brexit and the Tories in 2019, because net immigration has more than doubled since 2016.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
That's because a gordian knot of public regulations and laws have been passed over the last 50 years that now make it, procedurally, almost impossible to get anything done and endless grounds for appeal.
Intelligent politicians would apply themselves to understanding the tangled web we've weaved and whether it's still fit for purpose, but it's far easier to grandstand with new laws rather than do a lot of hard work no-one might notice and, even if they do, long after they've left office.
Spot on. So that we now have the spectacle of government trying to get parliament to legislate to designate and alter unknown facts about the future (Rwanda 'is' a safe country) in order to evade its own laws. Pathetically, it may even believe it can work. To unwind it will be an effortless matter for the courts, not least because of the 800 years of laws government are trying to ignore.
My mind boggles at the mental gymnastics needed to toe the Tory line. We has to have Brexit for Sovereignty, but then have had posters say that parliament shouldn't have been sovereign after the 2017 election, and now that British laws should be disapplied.
For all that they foam on about principles, in practice there are non. They want to be free, to do what they want to do. What that is keeps changing and how dare anyone point to the basis of the British constitution - laws, conventions, the courts, international treaties etc - and say that this is what Brexit sovereignty is.
Bit like following your posts, with gems like 'largely universally popular'.
Don’t know why he’s trying to say I’m ‘toeing the Tory line” because I said MPs shouldn’t have got a vote on the Brexit deal. When I made that point repeatedly in 2016-2019 I’d never voted Tory. I did in 2019 as they were the only party keeping their word about enacting the result of the referendum, and doubt I will again
None of my business of course, but do you consider yourself politically homeless or will you be tempted down the wasted vote route with RefUK?
I don’t know really. I’d say it’s big odds on I wouldn’t vote.
I think that's what will happen to lots of natural right-of-centre voters. Turnout could be low.
Nobody, including Starmer, seems to want the Red wall votes. It would serve the other parties completely right if Farage came in and swept the board there.
There has already been a groundswell of people who went Lab > UKIP or now Lab > Con > BXP/ReFUK. I am expecting that there will be more votes than ever for these hard right parties in the red wall, but it won't win them a seat and will help Labour reclaim seats.
That seems to be what will happen, I agree. Refuk would be likely to climb even higher if Farage tales over seriously, though not sure if that puts them in contention for any GE seats.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Say who?
A: Only the far-right say this, in the hope of stoking their forlorn 'culture war'.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
You were duped then when you voted for Brexit and the Tories in 2019, because net immigration has more than doubled since 2016.
A lot of the increase is students I think, but I wouldn’t say I was duped - whether you were on here on not around 2016 I don’t know, but I always said the vote for he was about having the ability to reduce immigration if the government , whoever that might be, wanted to do that. Had the Tories not won in 2019 there’s a fair chance we’d still be in the EU now and that control would be gone forever. Now we have a Labour Party almost certain to be in power who are talking the talk on reducing immigration and don’t have the excuses Cameron used to wriggle out of doing it
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
It should be noted that many of Powell's criticisms of mass immigration were centred around culture and integration as opposed to migrants undermining the wages of working class people. Those are definitely 'well to the right' of the centre ground criticisms of immigration. Anecdotally, I've heard the complaint of the big cities being unrecognisable due to immigration more often than alleged wage suppression from WWC Brexiteers.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Maybe a big RefUK vote completely screwing the Tories in 2024 might give RefUK the leverage to insist the Tories accept PR?
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
It should be noted that many of Powell's criticisms of mass immigration were centred around culture and integration as opposed to migrants undermining the wages of working class people. Those are definitely 'well to the right' of the centre ground criticisms of immigration. Anecdotally, I've heard the complaint of the big cities being unrecognisable due to immigration more often than alleged wage suppression from WWC Brexiteers.
Yes I was talking about FOM in the EU when I mentioned cheap Labour.
Opinion polls at the time showed the majority of the public agreed with Powell, so it wasn’t a particularly extreme view.
The anecdotes you mention are from extremists rather than Centre ground then?
Dementia is certainly not very nice, which is why I thought he should be aware.
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Say who?
A: Only the far-right say this, in the hope of stoking their forlorn 'culture war'.
It is a phenomenon quite widely acknowledged that the definition of 'far right' has expanded to include all policies, whether they be economical, environmental, or social, that do not wholly confirm to the fashionable consensus, however mobile its own goalposts.
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
When Scotland passed a self-ID law, Sunak's government blocked it.
Polling suggests that - while most voters support allowing people to choose their pronouns - they aren't that keen on opening up single sex spaces.
Do you expect that Starmer's government will overturn this block?
(With that said, there is clearly a problem with some overzealous councils and - historically - the prison service. But I would also note that is no longer the case for prisons, and I don't expect Starmer to change this either. Indeed, I would be staggered if the Labour manifesto contains anything other than platitudes on the subject of gender.)
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Say who?
A: Only the far-right say this, in the hope of stoking their forlorn 'culture war'.
It is a phenomenon quite widely acknowledged that the definition of 'far right' has expanded to include all policies, whether they be economical, environmental, or social, that do not wholly confirm to the fashionable consensus, however mobile its own goalposts.
So, you expect that the Starmer government will (a) reverse the current government's ban on transgender prisoner in women's prisons, and (b) allow the Scottish government self-ID law to be reinstated.
I'll bet you £100 on each of those if you like.
What I bet they will do is to pass laws requiring organizations to recognise people's preferred pronouns.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
It should be noted that many of Powell's criticisms of mass immigration were centred around culture and integration as opposed to migrants undermining the wages of working class people. Those are definitely 'well to the right' of the centre ground criticisms of immigration. Anecdotally, I've heard the complaint of the big cities being unrecognisable due to immigration more often than alleged wage suppression from WWC Brexiteers.
Yes I was talking about FOM in the EU when I mentioned cheap Labour.
Opinion polls at the time showed the majority of the public agreed with Powell, so it wasn’t a particularly extreme view.
The anecdotes you mention are from extremists rather than Centre ground then?
Hard to say. I think a lot Red Wall voters are centre-left when it comes to public spending, but are centre-right/socially conservative when it comes to immigration, law and order, benefits, culture etc. Hence why the got duped by Boris because they believed he was offering that in 2019.
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Maybe a big RefUK vote completely screwing the Tories in 2024 might give RefUK the leverage to insist the Tories accept PR?
In which case the chances of a PM Farage within the next decade would increase massively.
PR would make it more likely RefUK could overtake the Tories on votes and seats and then if a Starmer Labour government becomes unpopular and the economy is poor Farage would be the Leader of the Opposition waiting to exploit that and form a coalition government with the Tories.
Remember Meloni is the most rightwing and nationalist head of government in western Europe at present under PR not FPTP
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Say who?
A: Only the far-right say this, in the hope of stoking their forlorn 'culture war'.
It is a phenomenon quite widely acknowledged that the definition of 'far right' has expanded to include all policies, whether they be economical, environmental, or social, that do not wholly confirm to the fashionable consensus, however mobile its own goalposts.
Two of those outlets I have never heard of but appear from a quick glance to be leftish (or left-wing, depending on your viewpoint) pressure groups and frankly I think they'd have used the term 'far-right' freely at any time in the past 60 years (if they were around through that time).
The use by the Globe and Mail is much stranger: a right-of-centre publication gives space for an attack on the more extreme right. All credit to the gLobe and Mail for carrying this opinion piece; the Guardian does a similar thing from time to time on the left.
However, I am not sure how you could categorise the subject of this article (anti-trans activist Chris Elston ”Billboard Chris”) as other than 'far-right'. As the author notes:
"Mr. Elston carries around a sign that reads, “Children are never born in the wrong body.”
This is vile.
Unable to force women to surrender control over their bodies, unable to force gay men and women back into the closet, unable to force their perversion of Christianity onto the rest of us, the far right has decided to go after trans people."
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
Yes I have. It was fine. I mean, he basically just read Dahl's story aloud, with interesting art direction. And I happen to love the story (which was first published in Playboy), so I looked on it favourably. But it was not a cinematic masterpiece. It was a diverting and enjoyable 30 minute short story.
Asteroid City was not quite as good as that. It was - as he loves - a story within a story. It contained all the usual Anderson hallmarks. It had a stella cast. But it lacked a strong central plotline, which makes it much weaker than the Royal Tenenbaums or the Grand Budapest Hotel.
Which meant - however gorgeous it looked - that it was empty. None of the performances meant anything, because they weren't in support of a story we cared about.
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
It's not a patch on The Grand Budapest Hotel, which is a brilliant film.
Dementia is certainly not very nice, which is why I thought he should be aware.
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
He's also cut down a lot - and has a pretty active social and even family life. So not really.
The more interesting recent strong correlation discovered is that between suffering from constipation, and risk of Alzheimer's.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
When Scotland passed a self-ID law, Sunak's government blocked it.
Polling suggests that - while most voters support allowing people to choose their pronouns - they aren't that keen on opening up single sex spaces.
Do you expect that Starmer's government will overturn this block?
(With that said, there is clearly a problem with some overzealous councils and - historically - the prison service. But I would also note that is no longer the case for prisons, and I don't expect Starmer to change this either. Indeed, I would be staggered if the Labour manifesto contains anything other than platitudes on the subject of gender.)
As I say in my later posts, whilst I don't think everyone does this, there has been an expansion of the concept of 'far right' on the part of some, to include 'right of centre' policies that they now wish to portray as an anachronism and an affront. 'Far right' to me should be used to classify the views and tactics of neo-Nazi groups. It should be vigorously opposed as a term of invalidation aimed at Thatcherites, those who believe in the immutability of sex, Brexit supporters, etc. etc.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Remember: J k Rowling used several anti-Semitic tropes and racist stereotypes in her Harry Potter series and now she does her best to grovel to the Israeli fascist regime and Zionists by being an anti-Palestinian bigot and a raving racist spewing hate and vicious lies.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Remember: J k Rowling used several anti-Semitic tropes and racist stereotypes in her Harry Potter series and now she does her best to grovel to the Israeli fascist regime and Zionists by being an anti-Palestinian bigot and a raving racist spewing hate and vicious lies.
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
It's not a patch on The Grand Budapest Hotel, which is a brilliant film.
Which do you prefer, the Grand Budapest or the Tenenbaums?
As I say in my later posts, whilst I don't think everyone does this, there has been an expansion of the concept of 'far right' on the part of some, to include 'right of centre' policies that they now wish to portray as an anachronism and an affront. 'Far right' to me should be used to classify the views and tactics of neo-Nazi groups. It should be vigorously opposed as a term of invalidation aimed at Thatcherites, those who believe in the immutability of sex, Brexit supporters, etc. etc.
I have on occasion be called by some PBers as a 'far right Tory' and by others a 'lefty'.
Got to love labels, I am a fiscal Thatcherite free marketeer with oodles of social liberalism to boot.
Dementia is certainly not very nice, which is why I thought he should be aware.
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
He's also cut down a lot - and has a pretty active social and even family life. So not really.
The more interesting recent strong correlation discovered is that between suffering from constipation, and risk of Alzheimer's.
Are both relating to neurological degeneration, so a common causal factor?
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
It's not a patch on The Grand Budapest Hotel, which is a brilliant film.
Which do you prefer, the Grand Budapest or the Tenenbaums?
As I say in my later posts, whilst I don't think everyone does this, there has been an expansion of the concept of 'far right' on the part of some, to include 'right of centre' policies that they now wish to portray as an anachronism and an affront. 'Far right' to me should be used to classify the views and tactics of neo-Nazi groups. It should be vigorously opposed as a term of invalidation aimed at Thatcherites, those who believe in the immutability of sex, Brexit supporters, etc. etc.
I have on occasion be called by some PBers as a 'far right Tory' and by others a 'lefty'.
Got to love labels, I am a fiscal Thatcherite free marketeer with oodles of social liberalism to boot.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
When Scotland passed a self-ID law, Sunak's government blocked it.
Polling suggests that - while most voters support allowing people to choose their pronouns - they aren't that keen on opening up single sex spaces.
Do you expect that Starmer's government will overturn this block?
(With that said, there is clearly a problem with some overzealous councils and - historically - the prison service. But I would also note that is no longer the case for prisons, and I don't expect Starmer to change this either. Indeed, I would be staggered if the Labour manifesto contains anything other than platitudes on the subject of gender.)
As I say in my later posts, whilst I don't think everyone does this, there has been an expansion of the concept of 'far right' on the part of some, to include 'right of centre' policies that they now wish to portray as an anachronism and an affront. 'Far right' to me should be used to classify the views and tactics of neo-Nazi groups. It should be vigorously opposed as a term of invalidation aimed at Thatcherites, those who believe in the immutability of sex, Brexit supporters, etc. etc.
I agree with that.
From a small group of "nutters", there is definitely an attempt to portray anything that doesn't fit in with their agenda as somehow fascistic. (Weirdly, it hasn't occurred to them that silencing the voices of those they disagree with is also... well.. you get it.)
My point, in that there is one, is that neither Labour nor the Conservatives are likely to move the needle very far from the current consensus, which is choose your own pronouns, not your own changing area.
(For what it's worth, I think the Olympic pool in Stratford has the right idea. Completely unisex changing areas, but everyone is in their own little cubicles. Everyone gets privacy. No space is wasted.)
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
It should be noted that many of Powell's criticisms of mass immigration were centred around culture and integration as opposed to migrants undermining the wages of working class people. Those are definitely 'well to the right' of the centre ground criticisms of immigration. Anecdotally, I've heard the complaint of the big cities being unrecognisable due to immigration more often than alleged wage suppression from WWC Brexiteers.
Yes I was talking about FOM in the EU when I mentioned cheap Labour.
Opinion polls at the time showed the majority of the public agreed with Powell, so it wasn’t a particularly extreme view.
The anecdotes you mention are from extremists rather than Centre ground then?
Hard to say. I think a lot Red Wall voters are centre-left when it comes to public spending, but are centre-right/socially conservative when it comes to immigration, law and order, benefits, culture etc. Hence why the got duped by Boris because they believed he was offering that in 2019.
Dementia is certainly not very nice, which is why I thought he should be aware.
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
He's also cut down a lot - and has a pretty active social and even family life. So not really.
The more interesting recent strong correlation discovered is that between suffering from constipation, and risk of Alzheimer's.
Is there a correlation between number of families and dementia: and you want as many as possible?
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Asteroid City is a very average Wes Anderson movie (albeit better than the French Dispatch).
It’s easily my favourite Wes Anderson movie. Maybe it’s because I was wide awake when I watched it, but there’s so much visual comedy and I loved every bit.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
Yes I have. It was fine. I mean, he basically just read Dahl's story aloud, with interesting art direction. And I happen to love the story (which was first published in Playboy), so I looked on it favourably. But it was not a cinematic masterpiece. It was a diverting and enjoyable 30 minute short story.
Asteroid City was not quite as good as that. It was - as he loves - a story within a story. It contained all the usual Anderson hallmarks. It had a stella cast. But it lacked a strong central plotline, which makes it much weaker than the Royal Tenenbaums or the Grand Budapest Hotel.
Which meant - however gorgeous it looked - that it was empty. None of the performances meant anything, because they weren't in support of a story we cared about.
I know what you are saying, because the people watching it with me walked away saying “but what’s it actually about, you just paid £10 for this? there’s no story.”
But I don’t think it intended to have a story. It didn’t really need a plot, or a point? Rather like a Punch and Judy show, or other puppet show, just enjoy the experience of scene after funny scene? If that makes any sense, a film not needing plot or point.
I saw a slightly older film last week as well, White Noise, I also very much enjoyed, and didn’t want it to end. The scene combining the childhood of Hitler, Elvis, with the accident was so well done.
I remember reading Henry Sugar years ago, but did Anderson change the ending or did it always end like that?
Dementia is certainly not very nice, which is why I thought he should be aware.
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
He's also cut down a lot - and has a pretty active social and even family life. So not really.
The more interesting recent strong correlation discovered is that between suffering from constipation, and risk of Alzheimer's.
Are both relating to neurological degeneration, so a common causal factor?
Neural degeneration might be an effect rather than a cause. The gut is referred to as 'the second brain', and problems there may presage or perhaps even cause problems elsewhere. Or put more optimistically, perhaps we could all do more to aim for good gut health with the secondary aim of better general health.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Remember: J k Rowling used several anti-Semitic tropes and racist stereotypes in her Harry Potter series and now she does her best to grovel to the Israeli fascist regime and Zionists by being an anti-Palestinian bigot and a raving racist spewing hate and vicious lies.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
The phrase 'far-right' has become rather a debased currency. It wouldn't have been considered 'far-right' a few years ago to opine that someone who owns and enjoys the full use of a cock and balls doesn't belong in a women's changing room, toilet, or prison. These days apparently it is.
Remember: J k Rowling used several anti-Semitic tropes and racist stereotypes in her Harry Potter series and now she does her best to grovel to the Israeli fascist regime and Zionists by being an anti-Palestinian bigot and a raving racist spewing hate and vicious lies.
The geopolitical challenges the West faces are far more serious than those of debt and demographics.
It is not written in stone anywhere that our way of life is set to continue, forevermore.
Perhaps true, but the blue funk that the West is in at the moment is probably the biggest threat of all. In order to succeed we have to believe that success is possible. So giving in to "fear itself" is the most dangerous thing we could do. When one considers the rivals to the collective West- Russia, China, India etc. It is vlear that their problems are just as difficult, if not more so, as those that we face. If the Brits would stop whinging and start working, we could deal with a good chunk of the problems quite quickly.
One of the problems at the moment, AFAIC, is that small minorities of highly motivated actors can stifle progress, and hence make belief in it very difficult.
Hence, 'activists' blocking roads, introducing meddlesome LTNs, blocking planning applications on often the flimsiest objections, trying to overturn the referendum on EU membership etc etc etc. As the economy of the West has developed - for the good - beyond the dreams of our forefathers, the public sphere seems in my lifetime to have become almost irredeemably restrictive.
Round here the disruption is by anti-ulez activists clogging up town centres with protests, attacking street cameras and TfL vehicles.
Literally setting bombs off and getting arrested by counter-terror police.
Something is wrong here. PB experts Very Strongly insisted that the SHapp ULEZ expansion would hit young nurses and the poor who would now need to pay £20k a year to drive their old car (every example of which given was actually ULEZ compliant).
And yet here we are with the polis arresting "a 60-year-old man in Sidcup and a 61-year-old man in Horsham, West Sussex, earlier on Monday." The kind of angry weaponised ignorance and stupidity Brexiteer with a classic car that I and several others pointed out would be the only outraged voices on a policy which is largely universally popular.
Given that a couple of Just Stop Oil protestors were sentenced to three years in prison, I presume at least 10 years for these two.
Just Stop Oil are ecoterrorists trying to bring our fine country to a stop and prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance. These two fine gentlemen are merely highlighting the idiocy of Shapps and his ULEZ policy. That the road has been brought to a stop which will prevent pregnant ladies getting to hospital in their ambulance is a sacrifice worth making.
That is such an achingly boring and tired way of putting things, I hope you don’t think it sounded clever or was funny
Its like the people who come onto my YouTube channel, partly watch a video about something they don't like so that they post an insulting or moronic comment. They don't seem to get that in doing so they are promoting and funding the thing they claim to hate.
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
I don’t mind if the Tories lose, I wouldn’t get yourself too excited about me being upset
Valid question was asked of you - which of the hard right nutter parties tickles your fancy? SDP? ReFUK? ReFox? I'm sure you do want the Tories to lose - millions of similar voters out where you are wanting to punish them for not being nasty enough.
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Honestly don’t bother mate. I know you’re trying to be really clever but it leaves me cold
Me standing up for you democratic right to representation leaves you cold? Rightho.
No it’s more your boring smart arse attempts to frame me as this, that or the other that do it.
I honestly don't care what your politics are. Or whether they have changed - most voters change their minds so why can't we?
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
You referenced me so I replied. I had thought to say how painful your earlier post was when I read it, but couldn’t be bothered until I saw you banging on about the MP vote again
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
If I've got you wrong then I am genuinely sorry and apologise for mislabling you.
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
Well that’s good of you, and look I have banged on about Enoch Powell a lot so I leave myself open to being called far right I suppose. When I see other people quoting him, I think they’re nasty racists too. But most people agree with lots of points of view from all over the political spectrum, and it’s only partisanship that prevents them acknowledging it
All your posts are making points in support of, if not far-right, well to the right of centre positions.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
Some people think enabling mass immigration of cheap Labour which make corporations richer and pits poor people against each other is left wing. I see it as right wing and am against it. That’s the strange thing about the centrist position; they are all for things that Trade Unions would have had campaigned against with all their might, yet call anyone who disagrees a right winger as a term of abuse
It should be noted that many of Powell's criticisms of mass immigration were centred around culture and integration as opposed to migrants undermining the wages of working class people. Those are definitely 'well to the right' of the centre ground criticisms of immigration. Anecdotally, I've heard the complaint of the big cities being unrecognisable due to immigration more often than alleged wage suppression from WWC Brexiteers.
Yes I was talking about FOM in the EU when I mentioned cheap Labour.
Opinion polls at the time showed the majority of the public agreed with Powell, so it wasn’t a particularly extreme view.
The anecdotes you mention are from extremists rather than Centre ground then?
Hard to say. I think a lot Red Wall voters are centre-left when it comes to public spending, but are centre-right/socially conservative when it comes to immigration, law and order, benefits, culture etc. Hence why the got duped by Boris because they believed he was offering that in 2019.
It’s what Sir Keir is offering in 2024 isn’t it?
I think Sir Keir will offer exactly what Sunak is offering, but without the relentless infighting and general incompetence that has been the hallmark of the last three or four years.
Personally, I think the Conservatives could be just 5 or 10 point behind, if they focused on what had worked. They should - for example - be trumpeting the progress is reducing small boat numbers, and warning voters not to risk a reversal. Instead senior figures are jumping up and down about what a failure it has been.
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See also, "A wanker be the referee!" and "When rosy-fingered dawn the morrow heralds in, thou art getting sacked."
It isn't nice to have to turn your back on your team, but it had to be done. At least being from south of the Tyne I've still got The Heed to cheer on.
‘Same old Arsenal, always cheating.’
You can just ignore comments you dislike from political persuasions you disagree with. But we can all see the polls and smell the decay of political death in the air...
Can we both at least agree it was bad grammar? One or other would have done.
Anyway, best just change the header before anybody else notices the ricket
If we had a fair voting system you would be able to actually get represented. That 4m people voted for Faragism in 2015 and got not a single MP elected is simply undemocratic. A genuine example of our democracy not working, as opposed to your preferred outrage when people voted for MPs to be sovereign.
Apologies if I have called this wrong.
1997 is my reference point too. The Major Government, even at the end, was far superior to the current shambles. They were still competently led, with a capable top team (Heseltine, Hurd, Clarke, Howard), and were largely unable to do much because they had lost their majority and were being held hostage by their own 'bastards'. They were tired, had lost all credibility in 1992 when we fell out of the ERM and never recovered it, but despite all that still polled 31%. So if politics is fair (and it isn't) they should do far worse next time - 25% would be more than they deserve, but I'd be surprised if they go that low but may 28% is possible.
As for Labour, Starmer is indeed no Blair - but maybe boring but competent is what the country wants right now. On the other hand, the Labour team seems as focussed and on-message as the Blair team ever was. The bus is definitely parked, as the Header says. So in a fair political world I might expect Labour to be close to, but not quite at the vote share achieved by Blair - so maybe 40/41%? But the Tories are worse so do they match Blair's 43% after all?
Of course in 1997 the Lib Dems were stronger but actually not all that strong and only got 17%, which was their weakest result between 1979 and 2015. Despite a falling vote they still gained 30 seats from the Tories (Lib Dem seats are negatively correlated with the Tory vote, and bear no relationship to their own). So even current vote share might point to quite a few LD gains, especially if the mood is anti-Tory rather than pro-Labour and voters fall in tactically behind whoever is most likely to dump them out. Another 1-2% as minds sharpen perhaps, 13%?
The joker in the pack is Reform, I really don't believe most polls as there is little evidence in actual voting to suggest they will get 5% let alone 10%. But if Farage makes a return all bets are off, and the Tories are sunk without trace.
And I can see that if I add up C/L/LD that leaves about 20% unaccounted for which is too high so it will be interesting to see where that vote ends up.
I think you piled in because I referenced your comment about MPs not being allowed a vote on Brexit in the 2017 parliament. Whether you are ex left, ex right, floating - whatever - its a bit anti-democratic. Which in the context of what was a democratic revolution to bring about parliamentary sovereignty is a bemusing.
See you tomorrow. Welsh National day.
I went to Uni in my 30s, in 2010, as a mature student, and the general left wing, quite spiteful, atmosphere aligned with the studying I did made me realise it wasn’t as simple as I’d always thought. It would be nice to be able to vote Labour again, but obviously I can’t whilst Sir Keir is about.
I think you’re pretty much right. I agree with most politicians on something really anyway. I agreed with Corbyn on a lot of things, I wish he had come out as a Leaver. I liked Ed Miliband more than Cameron and wish he’d won, on a personal level, even though I think that would have led to him being slaughtered by Farage.
If you don’t care what my politics are then don’t bother with the forced choices that are effectively trying to get me to say ‘the Tories weren’t nasty enough for me because I’m a far right nutter’. It’s so pathetic I feel bad for you
You post some passionate and deeply reactionary stuff. That is *usually* of the right end of the Tory spectrum. If that isn't you, my apologies.
I expect that almost all will be non-voters in 2024. Polls suggest that very few will be Tory again, but they also suggest few will switch to Labour. Perhaps ReFUK may pick up some of them - depends on whether Nigel is front and centre.
"MPs should be able to vote against Brexit."
"No, not like that!"
If Brexit was about sovereignty, (which I don’t think it was, it was about immigration) it wasn’t about the public voting for it so MPs could then vote against it, which would be absolutely ludicrous.
Brexit was cleverly painted by the Leave campaign as all things to all people.
It has of course turned out to be none of those things.
You may not think you're particularly right-wing but your posts come across that way.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/26/alcohol-loneliness-increase-risk-early-onset-dementia
A: Only the far-right say this, in the hope of stoking their forlorn 'culture war'.
Opinion polls at the time showed the majority of the public agreed with Powell, so it wasn’t a particularly extreme view.
The anecdotes you mention are from extremists rather than Centre ground then?
By his own report, he drinks a lot. He lives alone by all accounts and comes across as rather lonely. Ergo, he might want to be aware of this research.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/04/26/far-right-groups-flood-state-legislatures-anti-trans-bills-targeting-children
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-the-far-rights-persecution-of-the-trans-community-risks-all-the-gains/
https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/06/07/gender-critical-feminism-far-right-agenda-institute-race-relations-trans-transphobia/
If you would like a break from posting and watch a film, I very much recommend Asteroid City. I laughed all the way through. The set and art direction and puppetry was very good. I don’t want to SPOIL THE SURPRISES *SPOILERS* but the sparking plug 😂 and “the alien has stolen our asteroid.” 🤣
Imagine shoving a ball boy.
Is @Cyclefree far right? JK Rowling?
When Scotland passed a self-ID law, Sunak's government blocked it.
Polling suggests that - while most voters support allowing people to choose their pronouns - they aren't that keen on opening up single sex spaces.
Do you expect that Starmer's government will overturn this block?
(With that said, there is clearly a problem with some overzealous councils and - historically - the prison service. But I would also note that is no longer the case for prisons, and I don't expect Starmer to change this either. Indeed, I would be staggered if the Labour manifesto contains anything other than platitudes on the subject of gender.)
I'll bet you £100 on each of those if you like.
What I bet they will do is to pass laws requiring organizations to recognise people's preferred pronouns.
Have you seen his version of Henry Sugar?
PR would make it more likely RefUK could overtake the Tories on votes and seats and then if a Starmer Labour government becomes unpopular and the economy is poor Farage would be the Leader of the Opposition waiting to exploit that and form a coalition government with the Tories.
Remember Meloni is the most rightwing and nationalist head of government in western Europe at present under PR not FPTP
Two of those outlets I have never heard of but appear from a quick glance to be leftish (or left-wing, depending on your viewpoint) pressure groups and frankly I think they'd have used the term 'far-right' freely at any time in the past 60 years (if they were around through that time).
The use by the Globe and Mail is much stranger: a right-of-centre publication gives space for an attack on the more extreme right. All credit to the gLobe and Mail for carrying this opinion piece; the Guardian does a similar thing from time to time on the left.
However, I am not sure how you could categorise the subject of this article (anti-trans activist Chris Elston ”Billboard Chris”) as other than 'far-right'. As the author notes:
"Mr. Elston carries around a sign that reads, “Children are never born in the wrong body.”
This is vile.
Unable to force women to surrender control over their bodies, unable to force gay men and women back into the closet, unable to force their perversion of Christianity onto the rest of us, the far right has decided to go after trans people."
Asteroid City was not quite as good as that. It was - as he loves - a story within a story. It contained all the usual Anderson hallmarks. It had a stella cast. But it lacked a strong central plotline, which makes it much weaker than the Royal Tenenbaums or the Grand Budapest Hotel.
Which meant - however gorgeous it looked - that it was empty. None of the performances meant anything, because they weren't in support of a story we cared about.
The more interesting recent strong correlation discovered is that between suffering from constipation, and risk of Alzheimer's.
https://x.com/itranslate123/status/1711811160494707005
Remember: J k Rowling used several anti-Semitic tropes and racist stereotypes in her Harry Potter series and now she does her best to grovel to the Israeli fascist regime and Zionists by being an anti-Palestinian bigot and a raving racist spewing hate and vicious lies.
"Always cheating - same old Arsenal"
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In the eyes of nutters.
That doesn't actually make it so.
Got to love labels, I am a fiscal Thatcherite free marketeer with oodles of social liberalism to boot.
From a small group of "nutters", there is definitely an attempt to portray anything that doesn't fit in with their agenda as somehow fascistic. (Weirdly, it hasn't occurred to them that silencing the voices of those they disagree with is also... well.. you get it.)
My point, in that there is one, is that neither Labour nor the Conservatives are likely to move the needle very far from the current consensus, which is choose your own pronouns, not your own changing area.
(For what it's worth, I think the Olympic pool in Stratford has the right idea. Completely unisex changing areas, but everyone is in their own little cubicles. Everyone gets privacy. No space is wasted.)
But I don’t think it intended to have a story. It didn’t really need a plot, or a point? Rather like a Punch and Judy show, or other puppet show, just enjoy the experience of scene after funny scene? If that makes any sense, a film not needing plot or point.
I saw a slightly older film last week as well, White Noise, I also very much enjoyed, and didn’t want it to end. The scene combining the childhood of Hitler, Elvis, with the accident was so well done.
I remember reading Henry Sugar years ago, but did Anderson change the ending or did it always end like that?
Personally, I think the Conservatives could be just 5 or 10 point behind, if they focused on what had worked. They should - for example - be trumpeting the progress is reducing small boat numbers, and warning voters not to risk a reversal. Instead senior figures are jumping up and down about what a failure it has been.