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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,915
    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On thread.

    "lovely story going around Mid Beds" = Lib Dem unattributable smears, I suggest.

    Why is a voter asking Starmer a stupid question a "smear"?

    "Do you have intimate relations with pigs ?"
    Does bacon sandwiches being orgasmic count?
    I love bacon sandwiches. And one of the worst things about America is how crap their bacon is.
    On a similar note, how's the cheese? I hear bad things about the cheese.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,806

    TimS said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Good evening

    Starmer confirms he will follow Sunak's plans and not reinstate HS2 but invest in the North

    I assume that ends any prospect of it being built

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/10/05/keir-starmer-will-not-commit-reverse-rishi-sunak-hs2-cut/

    How depressing.

    Starmer is a follower, not a leader.

    None of this should surprise anyone.

    Expect absolutely nothing new from him in office.
    Therefore, vote Rishi?
    Not arguing for that, just that don't expect anything different from Starmer.
    Do you think Starmer would have pulled a stunt like this?

    If not, that's a necessary difference. Maybe not sufficient, but it's a start and beggars can't be choosers.

    (As for me, I'm trying to work out why I'm so cross. I think it's that I knew Johnson was a liar and Truss was bonkers, so it wasn't a disappointment when they tuned out that way. Sunak, I though was a better person. And he isn't.)
    Yes, I do. And I'd say: be prepared to be disappointed in Starmer too.

    He'll be Prime Minister and that means making difficult choices in an environment where there is very little money.
    Oh, in terms of choices and lack of money, absolutely.

    But that's not what Sunak did. He said "there are better ways to spend this money", and showed us a list. It's a list that seems to be falling apart within 24 hours, but it was a list.
    I didn't take that list seriously for more than a minute.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,062
    Farooq said:

    Rutherglen predictions, I'll be back after 10pm to make the final list:

    + 25 TimS
    +3000 londonpubman
    +2048 Farooq
    +1500 Andy_JS

    SNP by exactly 471.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 40,064
    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Farooq said:

    Rutherglen predictions, I'll be back after 10pm to make the final list:

    + 25 TimS
    +3000 londonpubman
    +2048 Farooq
    +1500 Andy_JS

    +4800 Labour
    This admittedly wild prediction is only based on the fact that 12,000 people signed the recall petition.

    Otherwise I'd have gone way lower.

    Just hedging here :D
    OTOH, bear in mind that that recall was not aimed at a SNP MP, in a strict sense, and to some extent a real one (despite Slab). The SNP had got rid of her PDQ from the party. So that argument isn't as applicable as it is to other cases where the recalled MP was not defenestrated. Adds to the fun of estimation!
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    geoffw said:

    rcs1000 said:

    By the way, anyone can go to the World Economic Forum. Tickets are expensive, but this isn't like Bohemian Grove or the Bilderberg Group, which are closed invite only events.

    I'm waiting for my invitation from the Mont Pelerin Society to their Bretton Woods conference later this month

    I dont think anyone can go. The ticket prices likely make it inaccessible to all but the 1%.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,427
    Gobsmacked by some of the predictions below. On the betting markets Labour are 95% on to win.

    If you get this wrong, as I suspect, I'm going to be even more insufferable over the next 12 months on my certainty of an outright Labour majority, probable landslide.

    ;)
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,915
    NEW THREAD
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    CiceroCicero Posts: 2,311

    Heathener said:

    Farooq said:

    Rutherglen predictions, I'll be back after 10pm to make the final list:

    + 25 TimS
    +3000 londonpubman
    +2048 Farooq
    +1500 Andy_JS

    +4800 Labour
    Low turnout. Labour +1783.
    15% Labour majority
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    geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,187

    Andy_JS said:

    Any gossip from Rutherglen?

    Rumour has it that Hamish McDougall is having an affair with his next-door neighbour.
    Having had their tea no doubt

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    Wait - Rutherglen is tonight?

    I believe it's there more or less permanently but the by-election count is tonight.
    OK, my prediction: Labour by 2,000
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    Cyclefree said:

    Good evening

    Starmer confirms he will follow Sunak's plans and not reinstate HS2 but invest in the North

    I assume that ends any prospect of it being built

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/10/05/keir-starmer-will-not-commit-reverse-rishi-sunak-hs2-cut/

    How depressing.

    Starmer is a follower, not a leader.

    None of this should surprise anyone.

    Expect absolutely nothing new from him in office.
    :innocent:

    Sunil, this wasn't funny the 234th time you posted it and is even less so now.
    Just Keep Calmer, Casino. Just Keep Calmer :lol:
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,264
    rcs1000 said:

    I love bacon sandwiches. And one of the worst things about America is how crap their bacon is.

    The office cafeteria in Philadelphia used to deep fry it. Made a decent toast sandwich in the morning
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,537
    Farooq said:

    From another PB.

    King v Queen

    Is this the real life?

    A bit of diplomatic friction has apparently cropped up between the South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol and the Royal household regarding his visit in November. About karaoke.

    When President Yoon paid a visit to the White House earlier this year, he sang American Pie at a state dinner and it was rapturously received. It sounds as though he is trying to recreate a bit of that same magic for his UK visit too – as he's requested to do Bohemian Rhapsody for his audience with King Charles.

    The request was politely turned down. But he's insisting.

    A Yoon singing "will you let me go?"

    Now I've heard it all.
    Could be worse, could be Leaving on a Jet Plane.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,537

    Wait - Rutherglen is tonight?

    I believe it's there more or less permanently but the by-election count is tonight.
    I now have an image of Rutherglen as Brigadoon.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,753
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chūō_Shinkansen

    Is interesting - 90% tunnelled.

    Makes you wonder what HS2 would have been like if 100% tunnelled - straight line from X to Y to Z…

    The more I think about it, the more we need automated, cheaper, deep tunnelling.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,955
    edited October 2023

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chūō_Shinkansen

    Is interesting - 90% tunnelled.

    Makes you wonder what HS2 would have been like if 100% tunnelled - straight line from X to Y to Z…

    The more I think about it, the more we need automated, cheaper, deep tunnelling.

    Get the Norwegians in.

    They basically have a state tunnelling group that goes round doing one project after another.
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