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Trump voters believe Trump is more likely to tell them the truth than their friends and family. Again: to understand the modern GOP, you need to understand what an authoritarian cult of personality is, because that’s what it has become. pic.twitter.com/Dzi2lbs4XB
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True crime enthusiasts broke restrictions on the reporting of names of victims and witnesses while online campaigners insist serial killer is innocent and question ‘circumstantial’ evidence
Armchair detectives threatened to derail the trial of Lucy Letby after attending almost daily and posting details on Reddit that were in contempt of court.
The trial, and a podcast relaying what was happening in court, generated enormous interest in the case and led to a maelstrom of comments online.
True crime enthusiasts were a regular presence at the trial, watching proceedings remotely from an annexe where the public gallery was situated.
All of those who attended the trial were made to sign a document saying they understood that there was an order restricting the reporting of names of victims and their parents, as well as some witnesses.
However, these restrictions were sometimes broken in threads on Reddit, the online discussion forum. It is understood that witnesses flagged this to the company, which then removed the offending posts.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lucy-letby-trial-reddit-post-vgmc0w0k8
There are a number of dodgy-looking state laws designed to make voting more restricted or more difficult in Republican states, which are under legal challenge.
Enough occurrences to impact the balance of Congress, potentially.
An example aiui is a law in Georgia with a requirement for absentee ballots to bear the birthdate of the voter on the *outside* of the envelope, and another is that food and water cannot be given to people in a voting queue more than 150 feet from the polling place (a disincentive, given temperatures in Georgia?).
To me it seems weird, but it's what they do over there, and they will rise through the Court System.
Johnson was a rather nebulous cult, which is why his support dwindled after even the dimmest of the dim could see he was not the Messiah, but a naughty boy.
Trump is in the Corbyn mould, and yet another example of horseshoe (and horsesh*t) politics.
The problem with the internet thingy of course is that people can, without much personal risk and behind anonymity, break all the rules, providing unlawful and unfair but massively readable stuff the news media can't.
He might just be deluded enough to think he can still win.
How, I wonder, is anyone going to find 12 (if it's 12) people who qualify to sit on Trump trials who qualify thus:
They are sentient
Have an IQ over 75
Have no prior prejudices or bias either for or against Trump.
It is almost impossible to believe there is a group of people who are able to understand the trial process and have the capacity to enter the process without bias.
I am a fairly sensible rational centrist. I am already sure he is guilty of more or less anything of which there is credible evidence to be presented and that any defences will be lies.
Trumpians, mutatis mutandis, will feel the same way.
https://twitter.com/EveningStandard/status/1694595867288674392
There are quite a lot of reasonably intelligent people who take little interest in politics. They may have a hunch one way or another on Trump's innocence or guilt, but don't feel strongly about it.
Remember, a third of Americans didn't vote in 2020 - and that was an exceptionally high turnout election. They weren't all half-wits - not having a very firm view on Trump, and not having taken enormous interest in political news, is less common in a polarised America, but isn't that rare.
He's so selfish and nastily obnoxious I'd have to believe in his politics a lot to put up with it myself, being a milksop.
Of more interest is that only 63% of Trump voters believe what their friends and family tell them is true. I'd conclude that 37% of Trump voters have pretty dysfunctional families and friends.
Corbyn and Johnson still have their diehard supporters, of course, but they're utterly marginalised in comparison to the hold that Trump has on the GOP. Vast majority of people have moved on.
My tentative view is that having a view on Trump disqualifies you for obvious reasons. Genuinely not having a view on Trump disqualifies you on other grounds.
Look at the polling on climate - not what is causing the problems or how to respond, but matters of fact like simply is the climate changing and becoming more extreme and intense?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/maui-wildfires-climate-change-public-opinion/
"But even on the question of whether the weather is getting more extreme, there are partisan differences. The April Ipsos poll, for example, found that only 51 percent of Republicans agree that unusual weather has gotten more frequent in their area over the past 10 years, compared to 85 percent of Democrats. Similarly, Republicans (44 percent) are less likely than Democrats (77 percent) to say that the weather has gotten more intense, with major divides in perception of how intense weather events like extreme heat and wildfires have become."
Very often, the defendent in a criminal case will be an unsympathetic character who it is easy to dislike. It's not surprising, when there's a murder, if suspicion falls on a petty criminal with a couple of convictions for beating his wife, who was too high to remember anything that happened on the night in question. That doesn't mean he did it, and often a defence lawyer will be making the point that their client is an appalling excuse for a human being but there's doubt that he did this particular thing.
Trump's popularity arises from his ability to connect with these people and their intense hatred. He's very good at it. Others have tried but with less success.
He has a way of communicating that convinces them that 'he is one of us'. He is nothing of the sort, of course, but they are so desperate to believe that here at last is a politican that speaks their language that he is able to pose as the true messiah, regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
It was 29 runs in two overs after a no-ball...
(The answer is, because his captain has stupidly put him on at the end with the short straight boundary to a left hander. Very poor tactics from Jennings.)
Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov tells the BBC that allegations the Kremlin gave an order to kill Yevgeny Prigozhin are “a complete lie”.
29 in two overs is obviously not great but not particularly unusual.
The centrist Dad party.
It’s both very impressive & deeply troubling to watch the radicalisation of such a large part of a nation in realtime.
This is something that isn't unique to Trump, but it surprises me how few people say "he's a bastard but he's ultimately got my interests at heart and is playing a dirty game against other bastards who don't". It's a more credible position to take, but people don't like taking it.
Fingers crossed the rain holds off...
*turns up the knob on the aircon to 11*
Thinking about standing doesn't make you a prospective candidate, otherwise political parties would be full of "prospective candidates" who vaguely daydreamed about being an MP on an idle Sunday afternoon in 1988.
On the flip side they suspect even if the evil establishment is perhaps more accurate on the detail that the establishment narratives are lies to manipulate them. And that part is often true as we have professionalised politics and spin doctory to such a degree that normal conversations and persuasion very rarely happen.
https://twitter.com/Brad_Setser/status/1694813333109473746
In case any LibDems require inspiration.
I formulated mine by talking to a few of them. You been doing the same?
What a fantastic waste of money! And what a marvellous experience for passengers, especially all those months on the south route (Sheffield) where significant numbers of trains were cancelled - often for hour after hour - to allow time for driver training on these things.
There are the white rural evangelicals, who basically view Trump as being like Cyrus or David. A pagan who is nonetheless, the Lord's chosen instrument. And, there are a lot of Republican voters who are against the establishment generally (including the Republican establishment) who enjoy trolling them by voting for appalling candidates. The latter don't expect to benefit in any way from Trump, if he gets elected, but they hope he'll hurt the people they despise.
Not from the exercise, but from where Hammond hit him...
https://x.com/mikesington/status/1695018169956757957
This was presaged the moment I tipped them for honours this year...
Both sides portray the other side as evil. Bill Clinton was almost the anti-Christ for the right, W Bush the same for the left. Trump is just this weapons-grade stupidity turned up to 11. I know that Don't Look Up wound some people up, but it was a good pastiche for today's politics.
Trump is a mobster, and a particularly inept one. But all the people who are anti-crime are pro-Trump. They want him to mob them because it makes the other side angry and that must mean he is good.
There seem to be tens of millions of people intent on removing their own rights. Of turning women - themselves, their wives, their daughters - into chattel. I don't get it.
Yet tens of millions of adult Americans are in thrall to the horrible geezer. I don’t get it. The reasons usually advanced (globalisation hurting the trad white working class, liberal elites sneering at them and their values, a feeling of abandonment by mainstream politicians); these make for good weighty articles etc but it doesn’t ring true to me as an explanation for something so bizarre.
It looks like a mass psychosis to me. More akin to Jonestown than a political populist movement. He was a horror of a person too who was able to brainwash many who came into his orbit. I wonder how many ‘Trumpers’ are actually damaged vulnerable people, lonely perhaps, men and women who have rather lost their bearings in life? I’d be interested in the stats on that.
It was all a shambles, of course, but I suppose you need to have a certain amount of respect for some of the individuals involved, who had pretty good Labour or Conservative seats and could have kept a low profile and hoped it all blew over. At least they tried, however flawed the attempt.
Note that the chart is measuring large cities over 250k with trams, metro or light rail.
So what are your grounds for saying the chart is "definitely not correct"? At least before changing goal posts!
I have a wife and a daughter. If I was a GOPper would I really be demanding that their rights be removed? Nobody wants an abortion until they need one, but should I be demanding that my daughter once grown up be told that she must carry a baby to term even if she was raped? Or support banning her from being allowed to travel just in case she's been sexually active and may be travelling to get birth control or more?
The Handmaid's Tale was supposed to be apocryphal yet here we are with GOP politicians (men of course) thinking it is a great plan. What the hell is wrong with these people?
Trump is literally a crook. Yet the people who demand crooks be shot are demanding that the crook be allowed to commit any crime he wants. Giuliani cracked down hard on monsters, making use of their RICO statutes. And then went on to become a mobster and get charged under the same RICO statutes. WTAF happened?
I am not ensure Sarah shouldn't be clapped in irons for inciting sedition on that comment alone. Although innate idiocy might be a valid defence.
Why do you have such a soft spot for these dangerous subversives?
Which appears to be defining characteristic of Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Viktor Orban, Jair Bolsonaro and . . . lest we forget . . . Boris Johnson.
Do you have other information?
Lennon’s response was better. This chart doesn’t account for Britain’s heavy rail network or bus systems.
Nevertheless, the situation is not good.
And let’s be clear, it’s not London which has paid the price, but the 60% of the population who live outside London and the South East.
Leading, in part, to astonishingly poor economic and deprivation numbers.
FFS is telling the public to carry water now what we call "woke" and "nannying"? These words have lost all meaning.
Well, at least, he was always taking the piss.
Which party do voters trust the most on...? (Labour | the Conservatives)
NHS (39% | 20%)
Housing (37% | 19%)
Education (37% | 21%)
The Economy (34% | 23%)
Immigration (31% | 27%)
Ukraine (28% | 26%)
11 point lead on the economy for Labour
There are many 'nanny state' things out there. This is not one of them.
Even if her brother did the same things.
Londoners are stupid.