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Silence is not golden – politicalbetting.com
Silence is not golden – politicalbetting.com
On 15 June 2022 the Mayor of London issued a refreshed version of his Violence Against Women and Girls Strategy 2022 – 2025. Despite its unfortunate title (does the Mayoral budget no longer run to proofreaders? Couldn’t the word “Reducing” have been shoehorned into the name?) the document and strategy are about reducing such violence, an admirable and necessary aim. The very first page makes it clear that its target is “the perpetrators of abuse and violence“. It states clearly “that violence starts with words, and we all have a responsibility to challenge the behaviour that can lead to violence and making women feel unsafe.”
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So, it is impossible to have rights of two protected groups in opposition to each other. Since, this would require personal judgment, nuance, compromise. All of which are anathema.
Therefore one group must be de-protected.
The alternative would be requiring officials to think. Which is probably prosecutable as Misconduct In A Public Office.
EDIT: Perhaps the "Violence Against Women and Girls Strategy 2022 – 2025." is actually in the spirit of the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad* of immortal fame
*"By God, this Crime Squad is well-named!" - with apologies to Sir Harry Esson
Move on. Britain is.
My guess is that the BBC could have funded its entire operations from non-UK citizens purchasing content - streaming subscriptions. Which would have ended the license fee *and* given political independence. "The BBC - free to all in the UK & independent". One hell of a pitch.
The more the public is learning about the crazier end of trans issues, the more they take against it.
I pity ordinary trans people having to be represented by these raging weirdos.
With the Mayoral race in London next year under FPTP it is therefore vital for him he keeps them in his tent, especially given they are a significantly higher percentage of the London electorate compared to the UK electorate and that they don't drift off and vote Green for instance. Which would risk letting the Tory candidate in via the back door. So he won't do much on this
Apologies if I have misread your demographic. Even if I have, you do realise what sort of shit you have to do to get 30 years for torture? And do you think castrating 16 year old male gays in the only jurisdiction in the world which permitted, at the time, this terrible act is 1. good, 2. bad, or 3. one of those grey areas?
One thing that I have noticed, especially abroad. There are women who put themselves in danger, and then expect to be rescued from their folly. They forget that other countries have different cultures, and they seem to think they can behave like they do in England, and get away with it.
So, for example, rather than threaten terfs with a punch in the face, what would the police reaction be if this thug had proposed punching:
- gay activists
- Jews
- Muslims
- men
- blacks
- whites?
One can rarely be sure of the answer, but it can be a useful thought exercise.
Others will decide on how to address these issues anyway
It is a controversial subject and @Cyclefree has as much right and respect on here to raise it
Clearly the CCP believes that silence can be golden.
Am I the only one who smells a rat the size of Tiananmen Square?
(* no idea what they like to be called so this is neutral)
https://twitter.com/unpopulargenz/status/1677790606561628160
She is a perverse and evil weirdo, who should be in jail doing ten years
How we have allowed these Trans Radical Freaks to dominate our discourse will utterly puzzle future social historians. Twats like @Heathener will be referenced in a footnote saying "idiots like this, helped"
But she is - rightly - criticising his apparent double standards in condemning violence by men against women but saying nothing about this incitement by a trans activist to commit acts of violence against their political opponents
PB is just some random wankers on the internets*.
*I knows all the Twitters
Western journalist seem intent on engaging China with the rabid dog mentality that they use at home. It's just the wrong way of engaging with the Chinese. It's also a piss-poor way of engaging with anyone.
Pedantic postscript @Cyclefree - that would be copy editing not proofreading.
It's more like saying, if you see any "Jewish currency manipulators, kick them in the fucking eyes", or if you see any "middle class Just Stop Oil wankers, cut off their hands"
It is an incitement to violence against a very specific group YOU have conjured up and then identified as worthy of hate
It's certainly a lot worse than some of the stuff that generates police action on Twitter; especially coming from this creep
That’s all that needs to be said to the Met on this matter.
Prayers and thoughts for all her family and friends
Frankly, you shouldn't be allowed to publicly demand that ANYONE be "punched in the fucking face" through a megaphone in Trafalgar Square. It's a clear incitement to violence
Dealing with the law is the Met's job (yes, I know).
Or if you prefer
Tired of
Explaining
Reality to
Fuckwits
Or
They
Even
Read the
Flaming
Statute (the Equality Act)
I'll tell you when I first became really interested in this topic. When in July 2021 an English court ruled in the FDJ case that it was legal to house a man, who felt he was a woman and had a gender recognition certificate, in a women’s prison despite him raping a woman prisoner, despite the risk of rape and despite the fear that this would cause women. In 2021 in England - in a country that likes to think of itself as civilised - rape, the fear of it are an acceptable price for a woman to pay to accommodate a man’s feelings.
This is a human rights cause, apparently. It is bigoted to oppose it. The idea that a man who thinks he is a woman could be protected from attacks on him/her in a man’s prison with men doing the accommodating is not even up for discussion.
Those women in prison are the most marginalised and vulnerable community around. They do not even have the vote. International conventions say that women should have separate prisons. It is what Elizabeth Fry campaigned for. But no - women must endure rape, attacks, verbal abuse, threats of these because their safety and peace of mind and dignity and privacy do not matter next to a man's feelings.
Fuck that. Fuck the idea that dangerous ex-prisoners can go round threatening women because they dare disagree with what men demand. Fuck the idea that police forces and Mayors and politicians can ignore this while pumping out pointless self-congratulatory strategies and meaningless words. Fuck those who think that lobby groups campaigning for the last 8 years to remove existing legal rights for women are civil rights campaigners.
I have sympathy for trans people who have been treated very badly by society in the past. I have sympathy for women who fear that there are men who would pretend to be trans to perpetrate further offences agains women. I have sympathy for children who are wrongly persuaded they need to change gender and I have sympathy for children who feel trapped in the wrong gender.
For all those people I can see that this is a very important topic, but for the country as a whole, not so much.
I have known two people who transitioned, one through work another socially. Both transitioned to women. For both it was clearly an extremely difficult and brave path to follow. Beyond that, I have no knowledge. It's not a debate I can join in. So forgive me if I post comments on other topics as they get discussed in the thread.
It is noteworthy that improving conditions in women’s prisons was a very early example of the modern liberal tradition of applying consideration and rights *even to Bad People*. Because they are… us.
Almost as if it is a worldview that includes all humans as equally valuable, morally. Or something.
@Cyclefree - thank-you the header.
Catching up with the local news, as medical treatment winds down for a week or two, and apologies if this one has been done.
Ashfield may become a two-way rather than three-way competition for the next General Election, since Jason Zadrozny (Council Leader) has been charged with a whole suite of offences around fraud and tax evasion (going back to 2007) plus a possession of Class A drugs charge, and Tom Hollis (former Deputy Council Leader) has also been charged with offences around failing to declare a pecuniary interest.
It is an active investigation, so I'll just provide a link.
https://nottstv.com/ashfield-district-council-leader-jason-zadrozny-faces-fraud-and-drug-charges/
(At the last County election this spring, Hollis lost half his vote from approx 40% to under 20% but just beat Labour, and Zadrozny increased his from approx 50% to 63%.)
Edit: and the loop where they radicalise by listening to ever more extreme voices online… and then enter the real world with their hate is well known, and studied. See Prevent…
If (hypothetically) you change most gender-based rights to become entirely sex-based rights instead, but simultaneously make gender recognition/change easier, can you protect biological women's rights whilst also allowing for what seems like entirely reasonable potential for people to choose the gender that best fits them?
e.g. evil trans rapist still has to go to men's prison because sex = male even if self-identifying as female whilst at the same time we are not stopping people who reasonably wish to identify as their preferred gender from quietly living out the lives they are entitled to?
Given that most trans people aren't rapists, it seems reasonable to say we need to find some middle path that clearly protects biological women without demonising everyone who wants to identify differently, regardless of exactly how far they take that transition.
What kind of Woke Vegan policy is it, that doesn’t create a group to hate and demand violence against?
Turns out the crossover (in youtube terms at least) between 'make some pickles' -> 'want to be self sufficient' -> 'homesteader' -> 'bonkers alt-right maga' is quite high.
Now it is on the face of the tweet.
Libel claimants will have a much easier time pleading 'serious harm' pre-disclosure, esp vs accounts with smaller follower numbers.
https://twitter.com/Greg_Callus/status/1678043282700468224
People wanting to support Trans people at a time when transphobia is epidemic, and at least tacitly supported by the government should still be happy and willing to condemn incitement to violence.
Liberating one group should never require oppressing another one.
Quite why trans issues have become suddenly so highly charged despite - as far as I can tell - the numbers involved remaining tiny is, I think, both a mystery and perhaps not a mystery. The bloody internet amplifies both the trans rights extremists and the noisy worriers, at the expense of the live and let livers.
https://twitter.com/CalvLyfeson/status/1678083011642785792
The vast majority of transfolk merely want acceptance and to quietly get on with their lives. @Cyclefree even supports Trans pride in her header, simply wanting incitement to violence taken seriously, and for certain sex based rights to be protected.
Wilde and Turing flourished due to their extreme talents... and were subsequently persecuted because of their sexuality (arguably moreso because of they were talented than if they had not been). Both had their careers and lives blighted because of their homosexuality. Undoubtedly, many homosexuals who might be better known are not because their progress was stymied.
In what sense you think Joseph Merrick had 'the latitude to flourish' is beyond me. Unless you consider being made an object of public curiosity is flourishing.
The consider all the 'odd' women from before about 1850 who wanted to be scientists, engineers, doctors, or lawyers, or even simply study for a degree. How well did British society treat them?
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And a saxophone!
Perhaps if you read the back numbers of the Portadown News (sadly defunct), you will understand.
(*For the youngsters among you that's a bit like streaming on demand but we'll be able fast forward through the ads.)