Mortgage payments increasingly becoming a big issue – politicalbetting.com
You may or may not like its politics but the @spectator consistently comes up with some great charts. This one's on mortgage (un)affordability over time. pic.twitter.com/mMQfNBH3Q5
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
Meanwhile, it's not just mortgages, but food still. Note that contrary to longstanding rightwing myth, a lot of those people quoted are obviously actually cooking proper food - or were.
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
There's 410,000 ftb mortgages now vs 270,000 in 2008 and 370,000 in 1990
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
There's 410,000 ftb mortgages now vs 270,000 in 2008 and 370,000 in 1990
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
There's 410,000 ftb mortgages now vs 270,000 in 2008 and 370,000 in 1990
Edit that's wrong the first 2 dates are England present day is uk
Genuine edit so the most recent figure from the England dataset is 2019 and it's 301,000 vs 370,000 1990 and 270,000 2008. Not enough difference to alter the fundamental shitshowism of the situation.
We're in the market for a new house as full cash buyers. Everything is overpriced now and the next year is going to see a recalibration.You see identical houses in close proximity to each other with 50 grands worth difference in the asking price. The lag in time from agreeing a sale to completing can see a house worth 10 or more percent less and only motivated sellers, who are willing to accept less, are going to sell. It's bad news for thousands of sellers, but looks like we sold our place at exactly the right time.
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
All that does is slow down price increases for buying property, as the BTL landlords sell.
At the same time, the rental market supply contracts.
The actual solution to the property crisis is 8 million more properties.
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
There's 410,000 ftb mortgages now vs 270,000 in 2008 and 370,000 in 1990
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
You sound like my boss. I now just spam "influence" to annoy him.
Mike is right that this is tricky to evaluate, and I don't think the chart does the trick. It needs to be weighted by all sorts of other stuff: age, size of deposit, other costs like energy, term lengths...
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
All that does is slow down price increases for buying property, as the BTL landlords sell.
At the same time, the rental market supply contracts.
The actual solution to the property crisis is 8 million more properties.
Also accelerates any property price crash. Not to be desired by Labour aiming at marginal Tories.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
First! B ut not i hope first to spot the fallacy with the Speccy graph. If a smaller portion of the population can even afford to be a first-time buyer today than in the late 1990s [edit: sorry meant 2000s], then that graph is missing a major factor.
Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
There's 410,000 ftb mortgages now vs 270,000 in 2008 and 370,000 in 1990
Is the average age of a first time buyer and number of dual incomes relevant to this?
If ftbs are more established, earning more, byy the time they take the plunge it is relevant to the graph.
Well, relevant how? They are earning more, but paying more for their mortgage, on the reasonable assumption that people buy property as soon as they can reasonably afford to. So that's a wash. More established = older = more likely to have children which makes things worse not better.
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
All that does is slow down price increases for buying property, as the BTL landlords sell.
At the same time, the rental market supply contracts.
The actual solution to the property crisis is 8 million more properties.
You're not going to have me disagree that the solution is more properties in the long term, but fewer parasites seeking to have other's pay their mortgage for them is a good thing in the short term too.
That's not to say there should be no private rentals, but in a functioning market economy rentals should be cheaper than mortgages, and are in much of the world. If someone can afford to pay a landlord's mortgage, they can afford to pay their own, and for them to be paying someone else's instead is a market failure that needs addressing.
People or firms who invest their own money, not their tenant's money, into a property to let is entirely reasonable, but should be getting a return less than a mortgage.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
"Have AN impact on". In English, you see, we have this indefinite article "an" that we use in front of nouns beginning with a vowel.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
"...Of all the tributes paid to Silvio Berlusconi this week, the wreath that escortadvisor[dot]com placed outside his villa was probably the one he’d have been most touched by..."
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
Being a Lord is only a part time job and they just receive expenses and a decent lunch and dinner when in the Lords.
Being an MP is a full time job and MPs get the final say on legislation, Lords can only scrutinise legislation and delay non money bills for a year but the Commons will still push it through unamended if a conflict between the 2
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
In most places they vote for the same party over and over. That means you keep your seat forever unless you dip below the low baselines for loyalty and propriety. Over time, whatever external merits you brought when you got in have no reason to be upheld. This is the fundamental problem and extra pay can't fix it. Term limits would clear out the deadwood at the cost of inflexibility, less democracy, and more inexperienced MPs in other important ways. Primaries would also work but are expensive.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
He's aiming for the wrong constitiuency. People earning over 80K are not necessarily the best people, as they may be overspecialised. You should be looking at the £20-£60K bracket: smart enough to understand the issues and precarious enough to understand the stakes.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
24 posts in 8.5 years - are you Geoffrey Boycott?
Not Geoffrey Boycott. I post rarely because nobody has found anything I've said interesting before in the last 8.5 years.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
In most places they vote for the same party over and over. That means you keep your seat forever unless you dip below the low baselines for loyalty and propriety. Over time, whatever external merits you brought when you got in have no reason to be upheld. This is the fundamental problem and extra pay can't fix it. Term limits would clear out the deadwood at the cost of inflexibility, less democracy, and more inexperienced MPs in other important ways. Primaries would also work but are expensive.
Use single transferable vote or some other ordinal voting method within multi-member constituencies. Then you’ll get some degree of intra-party competition, so even if people are voting for the same party over and over, they may vote for different candidates.
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
"Have AN impact on". In English, you see, we have this indefinite article "an" that we use in front of nouns beginning with a vowel.
Entirely off-topic but as we come into the summer I'm taking a month off YouTube. Not by disappearing, I've just recorded and scheduled enough content to keep going into August without intervention.
What will be interesting will be if the evil algorithm punishes me for changing my video release schedule. Have done 2 or sometimes 3 videos a week for 9 months, think the quality has suffered on some recent videos so hoping that fewer bigger better will apply.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
The problem with MPs pay is that what is needed is people who are vocational servants of the nation, highly intelligent and able to scrutinise legislation, morally magnificent and exemplary, both independent minded and loyal to their party, good at getting to know 60,000 people and good on the telly.
This cannot be bought; and you are as likely to get the right mix by paying nothing at all as by paying £xtrillion.
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
All that does is slow down price increases for buying property, as the BTL landlords sell.
At the same time, the rental market supply contracts.
The actual solution to the property crisis is 8 million more properties.
You're not going to have me disagree that the solution is more properties in the long term, but fewer parasites seeking to have other's pay their mortgage for them is a good thing in the short term too.
That's not to say there should be no private rentals, but in a functioning market economy rentals should be cheaper than mortgages, and are in much of the world. If someone can afford to pay a landlord's mortgage, they can afford to pay their own, and for them to be paying someone else's instead is a market failure that needs addressing.
People or firms who invest their own money, not their tenant's money, into a property to let is entirely reasonable, but should be getting a return less than a mortgage.
It's not a market failure if someone who can get a mortgage chooses not to. I don't think all the mid-20s City workers actually want to own properties in inner London long term.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
In most places they vote for the same party over and over. That means you keep your seat forever unless you dip below the low baselines for loyalty and propriety. Over time, whatever external merits you brought when you got in have no reason to be upheld. This is the fundamental problem and extra pay can't fix it. Term limits would clear out the deadwood at the cost of inflexibility, less democracy, and more inexperienced MPs in other important ways. Primaries would also work but are expensive.
Use single transferable vote or some other ordinal voting method within multi-member constituencies. Then you’ll get some degree of intra-party competition, so even if people are voting for the same party over and over, they may vote for different candidates.
This is probably the most feasible change. Even so it means a lot more competition for most MPs, so I don't expect it to happen.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Last time I checked this was politicalbetting.com not cricketbetting.com. Even if Rishi apparently thinks the Aussies were bad sports (though even worse were the oiks in the Long Room who booed them!)
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Last time I checked this was politicalbetting.com not cricketbetting.com. Even if Rishi apparently thinks the Aussies were bad sports (though even worse were the oiks in the Long Room who booed them!)
You mean, oiks like the members of the Bullingdon Club? Must be highly posh gents if they are in the Long Room.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
County Council Cabinet members get more than that, London AMs, Scottish and Welsh Parliament and NI Assembly members get more than that. I currently get more than that as do probably 25%+ of the population
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
The most utterly tedious, boring, snooze-fest "sport" in the world?
Cruellest aspect of British rule in South Asia was teaching the forebears of today's Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans how to play sodding cricket instead of, say, football.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
Halve the number of seats and you’ll get an even less proportional result from FPTP.
Conversely, multiple the number of seats by about 50% and reduce the salaries by a third (1-1/1.5). You'd have about 900 MP's, each earning about £60K and representing about 75,000 people. I think you'd have nicer and more representative people.
In the light of the wicket keeping shenanigans at the weekend, has everyone persused, perhaps England's greatest wicketkeeper Alan Knott's eBay auctions. Lots of Kent and England memorabilia up for sale.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
The most utterly tedious, boring, snooze-fest "sport" in the world?
Cruelest aspect of British rule in South Asia was teaching the forebears of today's Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans how to play sodding cricket instead of, say, football.
A brilliant combination of sumo wrestling (given the nationalistic and religious fervour seen on here of late) and watching the grass grow on the wicket.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Last time I checked this was politicalbetting.com not cricketbetting.com. Even if Rishi apparently thinks the Aussies were bad sports (though even worse were the oiks in the Long Room who booed them!)
You mean, oiks like the members of the Bullingdon Club? Must be highly posh gents if they are in the Long Room.
I doubt it, the Bullingdon Club may be almost extinct but I doubt any of their members would boo members of the opposing team.
You can be rich but not posh, indeed as MCC membership is supposed to be by invite only and they have had to suspend 2 members yesterday, standards seem to have slipped as to who they invite
I would rate the LDs chances as less than evens, and more like 3-1.
First: this is mostly not about SNP-LD battles. Edinburgh West is still mostly Edinburgh West. Fife North East gains a bit of Glenrothes (and is technically an SNP seat), but the LDs should be favourites there. Orkney & Shetland is unchanged.
One LD seat - before the SNP's recent issues - looked to be a real struggle for the LDs to "hold", and that is the new Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross. This gains almost half of Charles Kennedy's old Ross, Skye and Lochaber. According to Electoral Calculus, that seat now has a notional 3,700 SNP majority. Will the LDs "hold" it? Difficult to say.
Lastly, there's Bearsden and Campsie Fells. This is the successor seat to Jo Swinson's Dunbartonshire East, albeit it is only 80% of it, plus bits of a whole bunch of other seats. I would make this a 50/50 shot for the LDs, depending on their ability to attract the anti-SNP tactical vote.
So: in all probability no change to the LD count / SNP count in Scotland.
Secondly: the LDs will struggle to win more than 28 or 29 seats. Once you get to that level, they need to start overhauling 10,000 vote majorities, and the party is only going to be on 11-15% nationwide. Can they do it on occasion? Sure. Is it likely to be widespread? Nope.
Thirdly: the SNP will lose seats. They will almost certainly drop at least 10, and it could easily be 15. But their losses to the Conservatives are likely to be modest (if they exist at all). And their losses to the LibDems max out at 1, unless I've really miscalculated. Which means it's all on Lab-SNP battlegrounds. And there I can see Labour getting everything up to Glasgow South (11 gains), but then it gets tough.
My best guess is SNP 33 seats, LDs 26 seats. Could the SNP lose more? Yes. Could the LDs gain more? Sure. But is it evens? Nope. It's about a 3-1 shot right now.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Last time I checked this was politicalbetting.com not cricketbetting.com. Even if Rishi apparently thinks the Aussies were bad sports (though even worse were the oiks in the Long Room who booed them!)
You mean, oiks like the members of the Bullingdon Club? Must be highly posh gents if they are in the Long Room.
I doubt it, the Bullingdon Club may be almost extinct but I doubt any of their members would boo members of the opposing team.
You can be rich but not posh, indeed as MCC membership is supposed to be by invite only and they have had to suspend 2 members yesterday, standards seem to have slipped as to who they invite
Given where the Buller were educated, I beg to differ about their booing habits, in view of the behaviour of members of the relevant institutions at Lords - so bad that serious thought was given to banning the Eton vs Harrow match, and the two lots had to be segregated like something at Ibrox.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
The problem with MPs pay is that what is needed is people who are...good at getting to know 60,000 people...
Epic pedantry on my part, but that's an electorate of 60K. The mean number of people (inc children and unregistered people) in a constituency is about 105,000.
So, we exchange ridiculous property prices and rock bottom interest rates for ridiculous property prices and high interest rates. That's going to screw a vast number of people, though I can tell you for a fact that the one person more likely to suffer from it than Mr Average Mortgage Payer is Mr Average Renter. With the more highly leveraged BTL landlords stampeding for the exits, the supply of property in the private rental market will end up so constricted, and with so many people bidding for the remaining properties, that the surviving landlords will be able to charge... well, up to the limit that the best paid and most desperate available tenant is willing to stump up. The effect is already obvious on the property websites: even up here, some forty miles north of London, one bedroom flats (the very few still available) are up to about £900pcm, and I reckon they'll be going for a grand or more by the end of the year.
For anyone with a decent slab of money to put down on investing in a rental property, either through outright purchase or with a small mortgage, this is the dawn of the Diamond Age of Landlordism. If you can afford one flat, somebody else's wages will end up paying all those expensive utility bills for you. If you can buy two, the second tenant's wages will also pay your grocery bills and you can spend most of your own salary on jollies, perhaps cut your working hours down and semi-retire. After all, why waste your own time working to support yourself when somebody else can waste their time working to support you instead?
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
Being a Lord is only a part time job and they just receive expenses and a decent lunch and dinner when in the Lords.
Being an MP is a full time job and MPs get the final say on legislation, Lords can only scrutinise legislation and delay non money bills for a year but the Commons will still push it through unamended if a conflict between the 2
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
If you put the salary down to zero you would still have enough people applying to fill the chamber, but you certainly would not attract a representative cross section of the population. I wonder if there is a sweet spot somewhere.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
If you put the salary down to zero you would still have enough people applying to fill the chamber, but you certainly would not attract a representative cross section of the population. I wonder if there is a sweet spot somewhere.
Personally I'd put the salary up and remove all expenses and perks, and ban them from accepting freebie gifts like tickets to sports events and the like. No claiming for anything, it only leads to people intentionally and unintentionally failing to disclose, creating confusion and animosity.
So, we exchange ridiculous property prices and rock bottom interest rates for ridiculous property prices and high interest rates. That's going to screw a vast number of people, though I can tell you for a fact that the one person more likely to suffer from it than Mr Average Mortgage Payer is Mr Average Renter. With the more highly leveraged BTL landlords stampeding for the exits, the supply of property in the private rental market will end up so constricted, and with so many people bidding for the remaining properties, that the surviving landlords will be able to charge... well, up to the limit that the best paid and most desperate available tenant is willing to stump up. The effect is already obvious on the property websites: even up here, some forty miles north of London, one bedroom flats (the very few still available) are up to about £900pcm, and I reckon they'll be going for a grand or more by the end of the year.
For anyone with a decent slab of money to put down on investing in a rental property, either through outright purchase or with a small mortgage, this is the dawn of the Diamond Age of Landlordism. If you can afford one flat, somebody else's wages will end up paying all those expensive utility bills for you. If you can buy two, the second tenant's wages will also pay your grocery bills and you can spend most of your own salary on jollies, perhaps cut your working hours down and semi-retire. After all, why waste your own time working to support yourself when somebody else can waste their time working to support you instead?
I suppose it depends on whom leveraged BTL owners sell their properties to. Cash-rich investors: likely no change; though the transaction might lead to a one-off price adjustment, in cases where the previous landlord got inattentive about repricing in line with market rents. Owner-occupiers: likely a big compression of the number of workers housed per property, and the above dynamics apply to the people who don't end up buying. As you say, the rents may be high but the prices are also high.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
To help visualise Javid’s plan below we have an image of a current MP on the left and an MP who has been halved on the right.
That photo always cracks me up
I'm about the same height as Rishi so I'm allowed to make fun of him, but he genuinely looks photoshopped into that picture. Something about the head and the background doesn't look right.
But fair play to him for not insisting on something silly like a photo of him standing and Kawcznski sitting.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
The most utterly tedious, boring, snooze-fest "sport" in the world?
Cruellest aspect of British rule in South Asia was teaching the forebears of today's Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans how to play sodding cricket instead of, say, football.
As someone of Sri Lankan descent, I violently disagree. Cricket is probably the best sport in the World.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
To help visualise Javid’s plan below we have an image of a current MP on the left and an MP who has been halved on the right.
That photo always cracks me up
I'm about the same height as Rishi so I'm allowed to make fun of him, but he genuinely looks photoshopped into that picture. Something about the head and the background doesn't look right.
But fair play to him for not insisting on something silly like a photo of him standing and Kawcznski sitting.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
County Council Cabinet members get more than that, London AMs, Scottish and Welsh Parliament and NI Assembly members get more than that. I currently get more than that as do probably 25%+ of the population
Then maybe County Council Cabinet members, London AMs, Scottish, Welsh and NI members etc are overpaid too and could face some austerity too.
Doing better than 75% of the population is no mean thing. Especially in a job where there's absolutely no shortage of candidates to fill each vacancy.
Personally I think having MPs wages linked to median wages would be a good idea. If an MP is struggling at about 3x the average income currently then what does that say of those the MP is supposed to be representing.
1.2x or 1.5x median income I think would be a reasonable pay rate for an MP.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
The problem with MPs pay is that what is needed is people who are vocational servants of the nation, highly intelligent and able to scrutinise legislation, morally magnificent and exemplary, both independent minded and loyal to their party, good at getting to know 60,000 people and good on the telly.
This cannot be bought; and you are as likely to get the right mix by paying nothing at all as by paying £xtrillion.
Indeed. Basically you need and want truly exceptional people, of which there are not 650 in the first place and most of whom couldn't be tempted to do it anyway.
But we do seem to do a very bad job of fostering a culture which rewards good legislative skills or morals amongst our political elites.
...it means that affordability on a like for like basis is significantly worse than the chart suggests. In other words mortgages are as unaffordable for 32 year olds now as they were for 28 year olds in the financial crisis and probably something like 25 year olds in 1990.
Secondly: the LDs will struggle to win more than 28 or 29 seats. Once you get to that level, they need to start overhauling 10,000 vote majorities, and the party is only going to be on 11-15% nationwide. Can they do it on occasion? Sure. Is it likely to be widespread? Nope.
So my gut reaction based on past performance is to agree with you.
However...
Henley has a Conservative majority of 14k over the LibDems. Wantage is 13k. (2019 GE, obviously.)
Vale of White Horse District Council now has no (0) Conservative councillors. South Oxfordshire District Council has one (1). That's after the 2023 locals.
I find it really difficult to reconcile "the Conservatives have been entirely wiped out locally" with "the Conservatives are going to retain the parliamentary seat". Yes, I know people vote differently at locals vs the general. But not that differently.
With that in mind, I can see two caps on the LibDems' performance. One is simply resources. They have a realistic chance in four seats in Oxfordshire (including one defence) and I doubt they have the resources to throw at all four.
And the other is our old friend FPTP. Labour has no chance in any of these four seats or indeed much of the Home Counties. But Starmer all over the airwaves for weeks will potentially divert enough casual anti-Tory voters to Labour to deprive the LibDems of victory. The LibDems traditionally work round this by carpet-bombing with leaflets but I don't think they'll have the resources to do this everywhere.
So I honestly don't know. I can see realistic scenarios anywhere between 10 and 55 seats for the LibDems.
The positioning of all three parties on this has been awful. The Tories own the mess and show no willingness to change, the Lib Dems want to subsidise mortgages and undermine the BoE, and Labour supporting buy to let.
Of the three, Labour probably still come out on top given they are more likely to give the green light to planning reform and new building.
Some other suggestions: - Abolish council tax (paid by tenants and inconsistent nationally) and stamp duty (a tax on mobility, discourage downsizing and efficient housing stock allocation) with an annual property tax on the value that is re-rated with house market index data annually - Vacant properties pay double the above rate, perhaps increasing with time to encourage efficient use of a scarce resource - Proper infrastructure investment to support new houses built.
...it means that affordability on a like for like basis is significantly worse than the chart suggests. In other words mortgages are as unaffordable for 32 year olds now as they were for 28 year olds in the financial crisis and probably something like 25 year olds in 1990.
However, the older they get, the more likely they are to be in dual-income households.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
Being a Lord is only a part time job and they just receive expenses and a decent lunch and dinner when in the Lords.
Being an MP is a full time job and MPs get the final say on legislation, Lords can only scrutinise legislation and delay non money bills for a year but the Commons will still push it through unamended if a conflict between the 2
Being an MP is a part time job.
That is why Ministers exist. Because MPs who are Ministers are able to fulfil their Ministerial responsibilities as another job alongside their part time job of being an MP, not instead of it.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
As long as we're poking historical holes, the first-time buyer house is probably higher spec today than in the 80s, if for no other reason than energy regs.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
To think we could be talking about Wimbledon.
5-time winner Venus Williams loses in the first round, aged 43!
PLEASE not how it impacts on or to have a impact on. We have this word 'affect', so 'how it affects' and 'to affect'. These impact constructions are both cumbersome and ugly.
24 posts in 8.5 years - are you Geoffrey Boycott?
Not Geoffrey Boycott. I post rarely because nobody has found anything I've said interesting before in the last 8.5 years.
Nobody's ever found anything interesting in my posts but I don't let that stop me!
As long as we're poking historical holes, the first-time buyer house is probably higher spec today than in the 80s, if for no other reason than energy regs.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
Being a Lord is only a part time job and they just receive expenses and a decent lunch and dinner when in the Lords.
Being an MP is a full time job and MPs get the final say on legislation, Lords can only scrutinise legislation and delay non money bills for a year but the Commons will still push it through unamended if a conflict between the 2
Being an MP is a part time job.
That is why Ministers exist. Because MPs who are Ministers are able to fulfil their Ministerial responsibilities as another job alongside their part time job of being an MP, not instead of it.
No it isn't, you have constituency casework Lords don't have and also you still have to debate and vote on laws, budgets and government policy.
Ministers work even longer hours for more pay and have more constituency staff
So, we exchange ridiculous property prices and rock bottom interest rates for ridiculous property prices and high interest rates. That's going to screw a vast number of people, though I can tell you for a fact that the one person more likely to suffer from it than Mr Average Mortgage Payer is Mr Average Renter. With the more highly leveraged BTL landlords stampeding for the exits, the supply of property in the private rental market will end up so constricted, and with so many people bidding for the remaining properties, that the surviving landlords will be able to charge... well, up to the limit that the best paid and most desperate available tenant is willing to stump up. The effect is already obvious on the property websites: even up here, some forty miles north of London, one bedroom flats (the very few still available) are up to about £900pcm, and I reckon they'll be going for a grand or more by the end of the year.
For anyone with a decent slab of money to put down on investing in a rental property, either through outright purchase or with a small mortgage, this is the dawn of the Diamond Age of Landlordism. If you can afford one flat, somebody else's wages will end up paying all those expensive utility bills for you. If you can buy two, the second tenant's wages will also pay your grocery bills and you can spend most of your own salary on jollies, perhaps cut your working hours down and semi-retire. After all, why waste your own time working to support yourself when somebody else can waste their time working to support you instead?
I suppose it depends on whom leveraged BTL owners sell their properties to. Cash-rich investors: likely no change; though the transaction might lead to a one-off price adjustment, in cases where the previous landlord got inattentive about repricing in line with market rents. Owner-occupiers: likely a big compression of the number of workers housed per property, and the above dynamics apply to the people who don't end up buying. As you say, the rents may be high but the prices are also high.
Why would there be a compression of the number of workers housed per property?
That's linked primarily to age [ie students, or those at the very start of their career], not whether people buy or let.
There is next to no difference between average household size for rental or owner-occupied and that difference that exists is fully explained by the fact tenants are more likely to have dependent children living with them (who are not workers) while pensioner owner occupiers don't.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
No - halve the number of unelected Lords, NOT the elected MPs!
He's looking at the approach of how do you improve the quality of MPs without increasing costs.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
Personally I would say we need to pay MPs less because of supply and demand; there's no shortage of people applying to be MPs at the moment.
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
The problem with MPs pay is that what is needed is people who are...good at getting to know 60,000 people...
Epic pedantry on my part, but that's an electorate of 60K. The mean number of people (inc children and unregistered people) in a constituency is about 105,000.
I'll amend that to 60,000 gentlemen, their concubines, wives, servants and daughters.
Javid says halve the number of MPs and double their salaries.
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000.... Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
...it means that affordability on a like for like basis is significantly worse than the chart suggests. In other words mortgages are as unaffordable for 32 year olds now as they were for 28 year olds in the financial crisis and probably something like 25 year olds in 1990.
This is a very good point. Comparisons are also somewhat complicated by changes in household composition (e.g. number of single-earner vs two-earner households), and changes in the relationship between median and mean incomes.
But, in the big picture, the key point in political terms is that the situation is not great for Sunak.
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Edit: for instance, thanks to inheritance or the bank of mum and dad (prop: C & U Party) helping put down a much bigger deposit than in the 2000s.
Meanwhile, it's not just mortgages, but food still. Note that contrary to longstanding rightwing myth, a lot of those people quoted are obviously actually cooking proper food - or were.
https://opendatacommunities.org/slice?dataset=http://opendatacommunities.org/data/housing-market/mortgages/rolling-total&http://opendatacommunities.org/def/ontology/time/refPeriod=http://reference.data.gov.uk/id/quarter/1990-Q1
https://www.uswitch.com/mortgages/mortgage-statistics/#:~:text=The number of UK first,to almost 410,000 in 2021.
Sort of the inverse of what you are suggesting
Still, these things are cyclical, and nowadays far more people are on fixed rates and many are yet to mature.
So the pain, if it is to come, for many will not be felt for a while.
Genuine edit so the most recent figure from the England dataset is 2019 and it's 301,000 vs 370,000 1990 and 270,000 2008. Not enough difference to alter the fundamental shitshowism of the situation.
https://twitter.com/britainelects
No change in the lead though
Now they risk a snowball effect, with buy-to-let properties excluded from the mortgage charter.
Labour would make sure all mortgages holders are protected - including buy-to-let.
https://twitter.com/rachelreevesmp/status/1675434079267831808
Just when I start thinking I might be able to vote Labour next time, they come up with insanity like this.
Hell no.
All investments can go down as well as up, and every BTL parasite that can't afford their mortgage is a house freed up for someone to buy to live in, instead of trying to sweat an income from an indentured tenant.
At the same time, the rental market supply contracts.
The actual solution to the property crisis is 8 million more properties.
If ftbs are more established, earning more, byy the time they take the plunge it is relevant to the graph.
https://twitter.com/benatipsos/status/1675867726689050624?s=20
34% now prefer Sunak as PM, 38% Starmer
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-gb-voting-intention-2-july-2023/
"If people want to see your GPs or senior nurses or headteachers or an accountant give up their job to want to come into Parliament they have to take a massive fall in their lifestyle to do it.
"A lot of people are not willing to do that. So you tend to get in Parliament either really rich people who don't need money and therefore they don't care if their salary is £88,000 or £28,000....
Or you will get people that were earning sort of £30,000 - £80,000 is a big jump but they might not come with the skills that Parliament needs.
"If I had my way I would halve the number of MPs and double the salaries. That wouldn't cost the taxpayer a penny and you would get a much higher quality of Parliament - and ministers.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-millionaire-sajid-javid-says-30378243?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
That's not to say there should be no private rentals, but in a functioning market economy rentals should be cheaper than mortgages, and are in much of the world. If someone can afford to pay a landlord's mortgage, they can afford to pay their own, and for them to be paying someone else's instead is a market failure that needs addressing.
People or firms who invest their own money, not their tenant's money, into a property to let is entirely reasonable, but should be getting a return less than a mortgage.
HTH!
WTF is RIshi playing at, getting involved?
He was stumped according to the laws of the game. That's it.
Personally I would just say we need to pay MPs more because heck I earn more than they do from my spare room...
"...Of all the tributes paid to Silvio Berlusconi this week, the wreath that escortadvisor[dot]com placed outside his villa was probably the one he’d have been most touched by..."
https://conservativehome.com/2023/07/03/michael-howard-small-boats-and-the-rwanda-policy-judges-should-not-substitute-their-personal-views-for-those-of-ministers/
Being an MP is a full time job and MPs get the final say on legislation, Lords can only scrutinise legislation and delay non money bills for a year but the Commons will still push it through unamended if a conflict between the 2
An MPs salary is a big jump in pay for about 97% of the population.
Based on these ONS figures I'd say about £40k is an appropriate income for MPs.
What will be interesting will be if the evil algorithm punishes me for changing my video release schedule. Have done 2 or sometimes 3 videos a week for 9 months, think the quality has suffered on some recent videos so hoping that fewer bigger better will apply.
This cannot be bought; and you are as likely to get the right mix by paying nothing at all as by paying £xtrillion.
I don't mind the occasional foray into politics, or indeed folk dancing, aliens, AI, the fetid ugliness of Scots, and likeminded distractions, but ultimately we are here to talk about the cricket, and we should remember that
Also, and this will come as a surprise to PB-ers, I was THERE yesterday, at Lord's. Yes
It is very hard to believe it is real. In future people will claim it was all faked with Stable Diffuson
Cruellest aspect of British rule in South Asia was teaching the forebears of today's Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans how to play sodding cricket instead of, say, football.
You can be rich but not posh, indeed as MCC membership is supposed to be by invite only and they have had to suspend 2 members yesterday, standards seem to have slipped as to who they invite
I would rate the LDs chances as less than evens, and more like 3-1.
First: this is mostly not about SNP-LD battles. Edinburgh West is still mostly Edinburgh West. Fife North East gains a bit of Glenrothes (and is technically an SNP seat), but the LDs should be favourites there. Orkney & Shetland is unchanged.
One LD seat - before the SNP's recent issues - looked to be a real struggle for the LDs to "hold", and that is the new Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross. This gains almost half of Charles Kennedy's old Ross, Skye and Lochaber. According to Electoral Calculus, that seat now has a notional 3,700 SNP majority. Will the LDs "hold" it? Difficult to say.
Lastly, there's Bearsden and Campsie Fells. This is the successor seat to Jo Swinson's Dunbartonshire East, albeit it is only 80% of it, plus bits of a whole bunch of other seats. I would make this a 50/50 shot for the LDs, depending on their ability to attract the anti-SNP tactical vote.
So: in all probability no change to the LD count / SNP count in Scotland.
Secondly: the LDs will struggle to win more than 28 or 29 seats. Once you get to that level, they need to start overhauling 10,000 vote majorities, and the party is only going to be on 11-15% nationwide. Can they do it on occasion? Sure. Is it likely to be widespread? Nope.
Thirdly: the SNP will lose seats. They will almost certainly drop at least 10, and it could easily be 15. But their losses to the Conservatives are likely to be modest (if they exist at all). And their losses to the LibDems max out at 1, unless I've really miscalculated. Which means it's all on Lab-SNP battlegrounds. And there I can see Labour getting everything up to Glasgow South (11 gains), but then it gets tough.
My best guess is SNP 33 seats, LDs 26 seats. Could the SNP lose more? Yes. Could the LDs gain more? Sure. But is it evens? Nope. It's about a 3-1 shot right now.
For anyone with a decent slab of money to put down on investing in a rental property, either through outright purchase or with a small mortgage, this is the dawn of the Diamond Age of Landlordism. If you can afford one flat, somebody else's wages will end up paying all those expensive utility bills for you. If you can buy two, the second tenant's wages will also pay your grocery bills and you can spend most of your own salary on jollies, perhaps cut your working hours down and semi-retire. After all, why waste your own time working to support yourself when somebody else can waste their time working to support you instead?
But fair play to him for not insisting on something silly like a photo of him standing and Kawcznski sitting.
Doing better than 75% of the population is no mean thing. Especially in a job where there's absolutely no shortage of candidates to fill each vacancy.
Personally I think having MPs wages linked to median wages would be a good idea. If an MP is struggling at about 3x the average income currently then what does that say of those the MP is supposed to be representing.
1.2x or 1.5x median income I think would be a reasonable pay rate for an MP.
But we do seem to do a very bad job of fostering a culture which rewards good legislative skills or morals amongst our political elites.
This chart only goes back to 2011 but shows the trend even since then.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/557901/first-time-home-buyers-average-age-united-kingdom/
If you then consider average salary by age (see below link)
https://www.ncchomelearning.co.uk/blog/the-average-uk-salary/
...it means that affordability on a like for like basis is significantly worse than the chart suggests. In other words mortgages are as unaffordable for 32 year olds now as they were for 28 year olds in the financial crisis and probably something like 25 year olds in 1990.
However...
Henley has a Conservative majority of 14k over the LibDems. Wantage is 13k. (2019 GE, obviously.)
Vale of White Horse District Council now has no (0) Conservative councillors. South Oxfordshire District Council has one (1). That's after the 2023 locals.
I find it really difficult to reconcile "the Conservatives have been entirely wiped out locally" with "the Conservatives are going to retain the parliamentary seat". Yes, I know people vote differently at locals vs the general. But not that differently.
With that in mind, I can see two caps on the LibDems' performance. One is simply resources. They have a realistic chance in four seats in Oxfordshire (including one defence) and I doubt they have the resources to throw at all four.
And the other is our old friend FPTP. Labour has no chance in any of these four seats or indeed much of the Home Counties. But Starmer all over the airwaves for weeks will potentially divert enough casual anti-Tory voters to Labour to deprive the LibDems of victory. The LibDems traditionally work round this by carpet-bombing with leaflets but I don't think they'll have the resources to do this everywhere.
So I honestly don't know. I can see realistic scenarios anywhere between 10 and 55 seats for the LibDems.
Of the three, Labour probably still come out on top given they are more likely to give the green light to planning reform and new building.
Some other suggestions:
- Abolish council tax (paid by tenants and inconsistent nationally) and stamp duty (a tax on mobility, discourage downsizing and efficient housing stock allocation) with an annual property tax on the value that is re-rated with house market index data annually
- Vacant properties pay double the above rate, perhaps increasing with time to encourage efficient use of a scarce resource
- Proper infrastructure investment to support new houses built.
That is why Ministers exist. Because MPs who are Ministers are able to fulfil their Ministerial responsibilities as another job alongside their part time job of being an MP, not instead of it.
Ministers work even longer hours for more pay and have more constituency staff
That's linked primarily to age [ie students, or those at the very start of their career], not whether people buy or let.
There is next to no difference between average household size for rental or owner-occupied and that difference that exists is fully explained by the fact tenants are more likely to have dependent children living with them (who are not workers) while pensioner owner occupiers don't.
But, in the big picture, the key point in political terms is that the situation is not great for Sunak.