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So there must be a whole bunch of sensible, single, childless, euro-friendly private sector working men, who live in safe seats, do not use electricity or gas, do not spend money and whose earnings continually rise above inflation to compensate for the voters the Tories have lost.
So are these people Poles living in London? Scottish Hermits living in mud huts the East End Of Glasgow? Or have the PB Stalins got this wrong?
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Incidentally, a review of a biography of him (written by me) is up here: http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/review-septimius-severus-african.html
One of the few things Jeremy Clarkson has done in his life that was on the money was to clock him.
Fruitcake anyone?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i5WqoL31_TQ
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now six points: CON 33%, LAB 39%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%
Anyway, I'm off for the night. Having the interweb fiddled with tomorrow. I'm hoping it all goes smoothly, but if I disappear for a bit, that's why.
Gerard Batten, who represents London and is member of the party's executive, told the Guardian on Tuesday that he stood by a "charter of Muslim understanding", which he commissioned in 2006.
In case anyone is interested, the railway sea wall at Dawlish has been breached. First lot went nearly an hour ago. Trains already stopped of course as the track was damaged earlier.
When was it lower?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/19/article-0-13ADF47E000005DC-866_634x803.jpg
"The Charter allows Muslims from all strands of belief to make it plain that they reject those extremist interpretations of their religious texts that promote or excuse violence and bring Islam intoconflict with the modern world. It affirms that they want to enjoy the freedoms of the West and live as law-abiding andpeace-loving people. I very much hope that those groups claiming to represent Muslims will decide to sign and embrace it"
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cyMhNUiQghoJ:www.answering-islam.org/Terrorism/EuropeCharter.pdf+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=safari
In three and a half years they have developed an economy which is one of the best performing in the world, we have record employment and low unemployment compared with our neighbours. They have taken action to reduce the bloated public sector workforce and their reforms of the public sector are necessary. Obviously not everything has gone well but that's what happens in government. Lots of the voting public don't like what this government is doing but the government are implementing policies which they think will benefit Britain (and clearly some are) and if they lose votes for this then that is a price worth paying. I think this coalition government are governing for what they consider to be the benefit of the country, labour try to govern for the benefit of themselves
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1a84cc4a-8d00-11e3-8b82-00144feab7de.html#axzz2sFNvBEJh
•Mike Huckabee 14%
•Rand Paul 13% [13%] (13%)
•Chris Christie 10% [24%] (17%)
•Jeb Bush 10% [6%] (10%)
•Paul Ryan 9% [11%] (16%)
•Marco Rubio 9% [9%] (9%)
•Rick Perry 8% [7%] (6%)
•Ted Cruz 8% [10%] (7%)
•Rick Santorum 4% [6%] (5%)
General Election
•Hillary Clinton (D) 55% (52%)
•Paul Ryan (R) 40% (44% )
•Hillary Clinton (D) 55% (46%)
•Chris Christie (R) 39% (48%)
•Hillary Clinton (D) 56% (55%)
•Mike Huckabee (R) 39% (40%)
•Hillary Clinton (D) 57% (54%)
•Rand Paul (R) 39% (41%)
•Hillary Clinton (D) 57% (58%)
•Jeb Bush (R) 37% (37%)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-26038912
Basil has just seen the poll and in utter desperation of realising he will need to help me carry the goalposts again has declared what he thinks of the coaliton parties
http://www.moosedenied.com/images/2008-07/squirrel.jpg
In MARCH 2010 YouGov found teachers splitting CON 33: LAB 32: LD 27: UKIP 3.
I reckon an armed forces poll would show a swing to UKIP. Stockbrokers would probably lean Conservative still given the perception that an exit from Europe could mean uncertainty in the markets.
Just hunches.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/build-new-Plymouth-London-train-line-away-coast/story-17476633-detail/story.html
Can only speak for the bit I can see, but that's a significant length of sea wall gone now. Goodness knows what's happened to the track. Going to cost an arm & a leg. (High tide was at 2155 according to the tables, so dropping back now.)
Foxes not squirrels are called Basil.
Your squirrel should be called Nigel as it looks as if it is being Soubried.
Show me the cheerfulness, show me the cheerfulness.
Quite something when Mitchell is the one sounding complacent.
Well excuse me, but I don't remember you doing a thread on the 1,000th anniversary of the death of Swein Forkbeard two days ago! Talk about discrimination! I blame Aethelred the Unready and his half-baked tin-pot genocide. It's political correctness gone mad!
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
Lenders vote for Labour.
Deposit takers for the Tories.
Forex traders for the SNP.
Pension providers for the Kippers.
Mutuals for the Lib Dems.
We know that there are fewer public sector workers and more private sector workers, but the polls have moved against the Tories. Either one or both public or private sector workers must have shifted left since 2010.
Funny how these stories never surfaced when UKIP were only taking tory votes though.
Farage should have expected it after he started pitching for the white working class...
For a few years there was a a sub-community on PB playing the game of Diplomacy, then for various reasons it died away. Recently Luicien_Fletcher, gent of this Parish, put up a post for a new game and it "sold-out" inside half-an-hour. If you weren't on line when it came up then you missed it, and I know there were several posters who would have liked to have joined if they had got the chance.
That game has been running very successfully for a couple of weeks and has had its fair share of plots, schemes, back-stabbings and mild skull-duggery. It is also reaching the point were the first eliminations could be expected to take place in the near future.
So, it occurs that it might be time to kick off a new game or, maybe, two. You see experience has shown that everyone's enjoyment is improved if the players are, generally-speaking, and taking on thing with another, on much the same level. I therefore propose to set up two games:
PB Diplomacy Novice Hurdles
A standard game* for new and inexperienced players, open to only those who have not previously been either an outright winner or a member of a wining alliance.
PB Diplomacy 2014 Death Match
A standard game with one exception, there can only be one winner, alliances are not allowed. One player has to make 18 centres to win. Anyone can join but be aware this is going to be a devious, vicious, no holds barred, bring a gun to a knife fight sort of game. Not really for novices, the feint-hearted or anyone who likes their gaming fair and honest. To give a clue, I am trying to tempt Andy Cooke back to play (and hopefully to comment on the site again).
Those who are interested in either game should email me at HurstLlama at gmail dot com for details.
*For those who don't know Diplomacy is a game without dice, without any element of external luck which is built around one central paradox: there are 7 players each of whom want to win but it is impossible for any one player to win on their own, they must enlist allies amongst the other 6 to help them. The game is therefore one of negotiation, deceit, blackmail, treachery and all round good-fellowship. The rules can be learned in half an hour but the play depends on human interaction and so is eternal and unlimited.
P.S. With the permission of the management, I'll repost this a different times over the next few days so as to try and reach as many PB Denizens as possible.
"By the simple method of not feigning outrage at every little phrase they don't like, Ukip have already gone up in my estimation compared to the tradtional mainstream parties. And no, I'm not a Ukip supporter. Tiresome comments threads like this could very well make me one though."
http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/31572341
Or have I got that wrong?
This despite it being obvious that the kippers were also taking a big chunk out of labour. Labour were happy enough to let CCHQ do almost all the work and will be again as the panic sets in among the tory backbenches before May.
Little Ed can never reach out to the WWC particularly effectively but then come the election he's up against the fop for those votes so he won't have to try very hard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/blair-unveils-plan-to-train-more-imams-in-britain-6588007.html
There must be hundreds of policy pamphlets from all political parties, touting various ideas for dealing with Islamism.
This Lynton Crosby lest we forget. Which likely explains why kippers are never too worried when stories like Batten appear.
To be fair the 'roasting' story does hit the nail on the head later on.
"But it is difficult to pin all the blame on those naughty Tory MPs. The Prime Minister has, as we pointed out in last week’s leading article, been a terrible manager who has often encouraged the rebellions by leading his MPs on. And one of the ways he’s led them on recently is to talk about forcing through the EU referendum bill – originally introduced in a panic by Number 10 as a symbolic measure to unite the party and highlight Labour and Lib Dem opposition to giving the British people a say on Europe – using the Parliament Act.
George Osborne told the Lords Economic Affairs Committee this afternoon that ‘wise as the House of Lords often is, I thought it was unwise to kill off the opportunity for the British people to have their say’ and that ‘you can rest assured that we will be offering that referendum in or before 2017′. He also tried to be upbeat about David Cameron’s prospects for European reform, even though Lord Lawson told him that ‘my friends on the continent of Europe’ say that ‘there is no way that a substantial and significant reform whether you like it or not is going to be agreed’. The Chancellor replied: ‘I don’t remember Lord Lawson when you were in office predicting the failure of your own endeavours.’ But there are plenty of Tory MPs who take the Lawson line."
"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
"In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
The fact that American postman Cliff knew this 20 or more years before a Cambridge student just shows what a genius he was - and proves his point :-)
There is nothing controversial about asking political organisations to endorse non-violence, and respect for secular laws.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/interactive/2014/feb/04/charter-muslim-ukip-gerard-batten
http://www.scotsman.com/news/education/school-pupils-brand-snp-mp-gimp-on-twitter-1-3292348?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite
There is precedent.
I think the idea is for spokesman for associations like the Muslim council for instance to sign it to show that they disown the views of Muslim terrorists
And I think batten also says they would be free not to sign it
So what's wrong with that?
"In a statement to the Guardian, Batten later said: "I would expect the fundamentalists to agree with me that democracy is incompatible with fundamentalist Islam. Moderate Muslims have to decide which side of the argument they are on.
"Who is in favour of jihad? Apart from the jihadists of course? I was, and still am, happy to speak out against it. It is amusing that the Guardian equates being opposed to extremism and jihadism as 'overlapping with the far-right'. So are left-wing liberals in favour of jihad? If not, do they overlap too?"
"The Western European view of religion, achieved after centuries of bloodshed, conflict and division, is that religion is a matter of private belief and conscience. Islamic fundamentalists do not share this view. They do not believe in the nation state, democracy, the equality of women, or tolerance. They believe in Islamic theocracy, a universal Muslim society, the Umma, based on political rule according to the Qur’an and Sunnah.
Such views are simply incompatible with Western liberal democracy, and we have seen where such extremist beliefs can lead, for example in Afghanistan and Iran. The West has been amazingly lax in recognising the threat posed to its security, freedoms, values and the cohesiveness of society by Islamic fundamentalism. The terrorist atrocities in London of July 2005 showed just how dangerous these beliefs can be. The threat posed by Islamic terrorism is one common to most, if not all, European countries.
Islamic fundamentalists have however made great gains in the propaganda war by convincing many non-Muslims that they are the true representatives of Islam, whereas they are not. The vast majority of Muslims that non-Muslims meet in every-day life are decent, respectable, law-abiding and hardworking. Western governments and societies have to offer them their support while standing firm against the extremists.
A great step forward in this process is Sam Solomon’s Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding. The Charter allows Muslims from all strands of belief to make it plain that they reject those extremist interpretations of their religious texts that promote or excuse violence and bring Islam into conflict with the modern world. It affirms that they want to enjoy the freedoms of the West and live as law-abiding and peace-loving people. I very much hope that those groups claiming to represent Muslims will decide to sign and
embrace it.
Gerard Batten MEP
December 2006"
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/interactive/2014/feb/04/charter-muslim-ukip-gerard-batten
http://www.scotsman.com/news/education/school-pupils-brand-snp-mp-gimp-on-twitter-1-3292348?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite
A forward for a 27 (or so) page document. Nor is it the press release UKIP used to accompany it which we must presume they wrote to give a 'flavour' of what he was proposing.
I am quite happy to agree with that statement, though not the whole document. Democratic liberals who support female and gay equality have the most to fear from conservative religious fanatics, of any hue.
To add some 2006 context:
"...the Antiterrorism Act of 2006, which makes it a crime to glorify or encourage political violence. Inciting violence has long been illegal here but the new rules, drawn up after the London subway and bus bombings in July 2005, are intended to be much tougher.
The law’s underlying assumption is that speeches and publications by Britain’s more extreme Islamists may play a role in leading disgruntled young men toward violence. In addition to banning speech that encourages terrorism, the new law also criminalizes reckless speech that may have the same effect."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/world/europe/21london.html
"...the Antiterrorism Act of 2006, which makes it a crime to glorify or encourage political violence. Inciting violence has long been illegal here but the new rules, drawn up after the London subway and bus bombings in July 2005, are intended to be much tougher.
The law’s underlying assumption is that speeches and publications by Britain’s more extreme Islamists may play a role in leading disgruntled young men toward violence. In addition to banning speech that encourages terrorism, the new law also criminalizes reckless speech that may have the same effect."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/world/europe/21london.html
So he wrote it as a response to the anti-terror act? Fair enough, that clears that up then.
It is a shocker of a suit. :-)
It won't it will still continue to rise for May then drop again afterwards.
Come the GE this stuff will actually hurt but for now it's all about the EU elections and immigration.
Still slightly puzzling Kipper VI hasn't yet saw the start of the kind of rise we saw last Feb, considering the Bulgarian and Romanian 'exodus' was supposed to be so good for Farage, but we'll wait to see from other pollsters as YouGov has a habit of darting about unpredictably.
If Gooch had retired at 33 he wouldn't have been regarded as a great batsman: most of his best performances came later on.
Come the GE this stuff will actually hurt but for now it's all about the EU elections and immigration.
Still slightly puzzling Kipper VI hasn't yet saw the start of the kind of rise for last Feb, considering the Bulgarian and Romanian exodus was supposed to be so good for Farage, but we'll wait to see from other pollsters as YouGov has a habit of darting about unpredictably.
I don't think any of the pollsters have got a handle on how to weight/prompt for ukip. Every actual election seems to be a good result for them & that's what really matters
There's no significant difference in their handling from last Feb when we started to see a sharp kipper rise. Little point pretending that rise is not a necessary component of a good kipper showing for the EU elections. Kipper VI will also be most crucial for the GE since it's going to be dominated by the economy and the leaders debates in the campaign.
The range of scores is wider than the Tories and labour when they average less than a third of their vote intention. That shows the pollsters are pretty clueless. Whether they over or underestimate is not the point
"Analysis by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher for The Sunday Times shows how strong UKIP has become. The professors at Plymouth University Elections Centre have recalibrated their celebrated analysis of more than 100,000 votes cast in council by-elections and now put UKIP in third place in their latest national forecast: Labour 34%, Tories 28%, UKIP 17%, Lib Dems 13%.
Since last year's council elections, UKIP has taken 10 seats from the Conservatives and two each from Labour and the Lib Dems. In places where it stands, UKIP takes an average 22% of the vote compared with 15% for the Lib Dems."
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comment/columns/adamboulton/article1370209.ece