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  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Dura_Ace said:

    Now we shall smoke out who the traitors really are.



    We live in hell.
    I do worry about where the right goes after the tories lose power. This could get really nasty.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    sarissa said:

    Nigelb said:

    Population pyramids are interesting (compare India, China and Africa, for instance).
    But is there a weirder one than Saudi Arabis ?
    https://www.populationpyramid.net/saudi-arabia/2022/

    Bahrain and the UAE are even more asymmetrical.
    Yes. In UAE only 15% of the total population are native Emiratis, the other 8 million ish being expatriate workers, and they are overwhelmingly men working in construction and oilfields, rather than women working in retail jobs.

    The other Gulf nations are similar, which is why the population pyramids look so skewed. Take out the expat workers and the demographics skew very young, with roughly a doubling of the local population in the past two decades.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,361
    Yokes said:

    Republican nomination

    Months ago I suggested that one thing was certain, you should bet against Trump. A bit down the the road, so far he doesnt have anywhere near the financial support yet, and there are signs of a hatchet job being done on him by the Republican party.

    Does anyone have the view that he is going to win that nomination? If so, why?

    I do. One of the main reasons is that he still has such a hold on the Republican party and its primary voters that it's forbidden for other Republican politicians to acknowledge that he lost the 2020 election to Biden.

    If you are going to compete against someone in a primary contest the most basic thing that you need to do is to say why it is you do not support the other candidates. You have to be prepared to criticise them. This would be a lot easier for other Republicans seeking the nomination if they could criticise Trump for losing the 2020 election.

    When Trump lost the 2020 election my Staten Island born mother-in-law was confident that Trump was finished. Being a loser in America would see his support drain away rapidly. She did not foresee the possibility that so many people would accept his lie that the election was stolen from him, and he was a winner after all.

    Any other primary candidate is effectively conspiring with Democrats to steal the Presidency from Trump again. How can any candidate win the nomination if they don't defeat that argument, and how do they defeat that argument if they aren't even willing to risk having it?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,361
    Yokes said:

    Yokes said:

    Republican nomination

    Months ago I suggested that one thing was certain, you should bet against Trump. A bit down the the road, so far he doesnt have anywhere neat the financial support yet and there are signs of a hatchet job being done on him by the Republican party.

    Does anyone have the view that he is going to win that nomination? If so, why?

    Polling says he is still miles ahead in supporters. It’s hard to imagine that support switching to another candidate, over what exactly will they choose to do that?

    Even if there are hatchet jobs, will they work? He fights very aggressively.

    From a die hard GOP supporter view, was the Donald presidency all that bad? He ticks off a few positives for them, like winning and beating the Dems. Gerrymandering the Supreme Court and over turning roe v Wade. The appointment of another four and a half billion arch Conservative judges. Pulling the centre of gravity of GOP to the right. Standing up for American Jobs and American Workers, not outsourcing and factory closures. Kept America out of wars, and pulled them out from where they didn’t need to be. Tough on illegal immigration. Cut taxes.
    But can he win the POTUS election?
    In the mind of most Republican supporters he has won the POTUS election twice on the bounce. Of course he can make it three times out of three.
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