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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    IIRC there have been 2 actors (sic) that have played Velma in live action films, and both of them have been lesbians
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659

    Scott_xP said:

    Welcome to the Lib Dem 2024 election campaign. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1612510281753845760

    I said this for years on here, whoever was in government when interest rates finally start to return to more historical norms will get absolutely shellacked at the ballot box.
    Although, these days, rump Tory voters tend not to have mortgages.

    All this means is that people who might in other times be Tory-curious just ain’t coming back.
    Indeed. From the stuff put out from the 2021 census last week this us the map of the main form of household. No one wanting to get elected across most of England will want a big drop in house prices:


  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    Scott_xP said:

    Welcome to the Lib Dem 2024 election campaign. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1612510281753845760

    I said this for years on here, whoever was in government when interest rates finally start to return to more historical norms will get absolutely shellacked at the ballot box.
    Although, these days, rump Tory voters tend not to have mortgages.

    All this means is that people who might in other times be Tory-curious just ain’t coming back.
    Like this?

    https://www.bigissue.com/opinion/what-an-unnervingly-viral-map-of-housing-data-can-tell-us-about-uk-politics/

    and this?




    https://twitter.com/undertheraedar/status/1611298314955153410?s=20
    Yes as I have said time and time again it is London and to a lesser extent the Home Counties where the home ownership problem is most acute, in most of the Midlands, the North and Wales and South West it is much less of an issue
  • HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimS said:

    stodge said:

    Just to finish my quick analysis of the Redfield & Wilton numbers, the poll for England only (excluding Don't Knows) has Labour on 50%, the Conservatives on 28% and the LDs on 10%.

    That's a swing of 17,5% from Conservative to Labour.

    That takes down to the 238th most marginal Conservative seat - Bedfordshire South West - currently held with a majority of 18,583.

    The geography of the next election could be fascinating. If England ex-London really is swinging away more from the government than London, Scotland or wales then all the assumptions we have on the new boundaries may be way out.
    What is clear is Rishi is more popular in London than Boris now (and in Scotland too so the Tories might save some seats there) and in the bluewall Home Counties but less popular than Boris in the North, the Midlands and Wales and redwall seats. So the latter is where the biggest swing to Labour will be.

    The net result is the Tory MPs left will represent much posher areas on average under Rishi than they did under Boris
    According to Redfield & Wilton data, the Conservative to Labour swing is 24% in the SE outside London, 19% in the South West and 17% in the East Midlands so perhaps Sunak isn't doing as well as you think in the "Blue Wall" though we do need some more detailed polling before we can form a definitive view.
    Labour are so far behind in the SE and SW even a big swing would win them few seats, it is the LDs the main challengers to the Tories there. Plus again most Tory voters have gone DK or RefUK NOT Labour
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited January 2023

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    Difficult decisions to be made in the Daily Express newsroom.
    Express loves Diana.
    Harry supports Diana.
    Does the Express therefore feel obliged to support Harry?
  • HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    Difficult decisions to be made in the Daily Express newsroom.
    Express loves Diana.
    Harry supports Diana.
    Does the Express therefore feel obliged to support Harry?
    Express long since under new management....
  • HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Welcome to the Lib Dem 2024 election campaign. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1612510281753845760

    I said this for years on here, whoever was in government when interest rates finally start to return to more historical norms will get absolutely shellacked at the ballot box.
    Although, these days, rump Tory voters tend not to have mortgages.

    All this means is that people who might in other times be Tory-curious just ain’t coming back.
    Indeed. From the stuff put out from the 2021 census last week this us the map of the main form of household. No one wanting to get elected across most of England will want a big drop in house prices:


    If it means more can afford a house in London and the home counties while largely avoiding negative equity on the whole then it is no problem for the government
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited January 2023
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Welcome to the Lib Dem 2024 election campaign. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1612510281753845760

    I said this for years on here, whoever was in government when interest rates finally start to return to more historical norms will get absolutely shellacked at the ballot box.
    Although, these days, rump Tory voters tend not to have mortgages.

    All this means is that people who might in other times be Tory-curious just ain’t coming back.
    Like this?

    https://www.bigissue.com/opinion/what-an-unnervingly-viral-map-of-housing-data-can-tell-us-about-uk-politics/

    and this?




    https://twitter.com/undertheraedar/status/1611298314955153410?s=20
    Yes as I have said time and time again it is London and to a lesser extent the Home Counties where the home ownership problem is most acute, in most of the Midlands, the North and Wales and South West it is much less of an issue
    What this map says is that the UK is a retirement home, apart from Greater London, Liverpool, Manchester, Cardiff and Southampton.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
    Actual data here

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

    Sadly, they aren't including Andrew in their poll.
  • HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    They are quite wrong about this. The monarchy's problem is excessive wokeness: you have these epically thick male retards who come with the superpower of making you queen of the UK if you play your cards right. The only solution is the old rule that royalty marries royalty who are used to and unexcited by all that. Throw it open and you end up where we are now, with three female witches scrapping about precedence. I never believed that the enemy was the press, or anonymous courtiers, but I absolutely buy the theory it is ghastly Camilla and even ghastlier Kate
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659
    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    Yeah, but it's not as if popularity matters. He is still 5th in line.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited January 2023
    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    Indeed, Harry is no more popular than the current Tory government now and indeed less so if you believe the new Deltapoll today
    LAB: 45% (=)
    CON: 31% (-1)
    LDM: 9% (+1)
    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1612442836158353416?s=20&t=ZVXVV8mP7cgulQP3Xv-8tg
  • Scott_xP said:

    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

    We're so excited to bring you real-time views from @SpaceCornwall via our mission livestream! Follow along for live tweets as we break through major launch milestones. Learn more about our mission to space and watch the livestream: https://virg.in/J8hC

    I was going to go and watch but it isn't a real vertical launch, it's a 747 taking off from a runway. Whoopee doo.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
    Actual data here

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

    Sadly, they aren't including Andrew in their poll.
    Presumably he'd blow up the negative scale.
  • HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
    Actual data here

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

    Sadly, they aren't including Andrew in their poll.
    Interesting - thank you

    Megan scores the worst
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    They are quite wrong about this. The monarchy's problem is excessive wokeness: you have these epically thick male retards who come with the superpower of making you queen of the UK if you play your cards right. The only solution is the old rule that royalty marries royalty who are used to and unexcited by all that. Throw it open and you end up where we are now, with three female witches scrapping about precedence. I never believed that the enemy was the press, or anonymous courtiers, but I absolutely buy the theory it is ghastly Camilla and even ghastlier Kate
    I think you are on the right track here, albeit with the slight whiff of misogyny in the women are the ones to blame (and I think Meghan completes the trio)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited January 2023
    Doesn't seem like an ITVX trash reality show would be a goer for Harry and Megan.....instead we could have Matt Hancock filling that void.
  • I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
    Presumably it had a terrible porn pun, which I feel compelled to try and guess.

    Scoo Bi Doo?
  • Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    Not on the poll posted just now
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    Indeed, Harry is no more popular than the current Tory government now and indeed less so if you believe the new Deltapoll today
    LAB: 45% (=)
    CON: 31% (-1)
    LDM: 9% (+1)
    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1612442836158353416?s=20&t=ZVXVV8mP7cgulQP3Xv-8tg
    Conservative on 31% ?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
    Actual data here

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

    Sadly, they aren't including Andrew in their poll.
    Presumably he'd blow up the negative scale.
    Meghan now on -42%, with just 23% having a favourable view of her

    Amongst 18 to 24s though 42% still like Meghan and 32% dislike her, sadly for her though Kate still beats her. 43% of 18 to 24s like the Princess of Wales, only 24% dislike her. 50% of under 25s also like William, only 41% now like Harry
    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf
  • I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
    ... and we're back to church architecture. Though doing anything on a niche would be uncomfortable and dangerous, I would have thought.
  • Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    Foxy said:

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
    Oh no they're not!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    They can, most constitutional monarchs are horsey Kardashians, if they weren't they would be absolute monarchs and actually make the laws, tax and spend and go to war still.

    Though Charles and Camilla are more traditional in style (even if she is rather horsey), his sons and their wives are basically just glamorous celebs and figureheads now, which the Wales' do better than the Sussexes as well as the King and Queen Consort
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    Not on the poll posted just now
    Most politicians would kill for favourability ratings of

    77+ve/15-ve William
    60+ve/28-ve Charles
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    He really has done himself and his family no favours at all
    More importantly is rating in the US, as I am sure he will need some more dosh at some point and if not careful have to go down the Keeping Up with the Kardashians route.
    I would also have serious concerns for his and his families security concerns into the future
    Actual data here

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf

    Sadly, they aren't including Andrew in their poll.
    Presumably he'd blow up the negative scale.
    Meghan now on -42%, with just 23% having a favourable view of her

    Amongst 18 to 24s though 42% still like Meghan and 32% dislike her, sadly for her though Kate still beats her. 43% of 18 to 24s like the Princess of Wales, only 24% dislike her. 50% of under 25s also like William, only 41% now like Harry
    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/2ac4xx18vf/Internal_RoyalFavourability_230106.pdf
    I can never look at Kate's jawline without thinking what a rat trap must look like to a rat.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Foxy said:

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
    Yes but nowadays we have actual soap operas and sport to provide entertainment to the masses. And films. And games. And the internet. Which makes the royal soap opera seem a bit, how shall I say it, a load of old horse shite.
  • I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
    Presumably it had a terrible porn pun, which I feel compelled to try and guess.

    Scoo Bi Doo?
    Shagger and those pervy kids.

    I think.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited January 2023
    Foxy said:

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
    No, not really.

    When the late Queen was alive, the monarchy proper was able to exist, impeachless, at the centre of the constitution.

    All of the gossip and silliness surrounded ancillary royals, not the Queen herself.

    Now the King is taking direct hits from his son, and the entire construct is demeaned and diminished. I’d add that Harry’s issues also somehow betray an essential tawdry contempt for the public in a way that previous scandals did not.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Welcome to the Lib Dem 2024 election campaign. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1612510281753845760

    I said this for years on here, whoever was in government when interest rates finally start to return to more historical norms will get absolutely shellacked at the ballot box.
    Although, these days, rump Tory voters tend not to have mortgages.

    All this means is that people who might in other times be Tory-curious just ain’t coming back.
    Like this?

    https://www.bigissue.com/opinion/what-an-unnervingly-viral-map-of-housing-data-can-tell-us-about-uk-politics/

    and this?




    https://twitter.com/undertheraedar/status/1611298314955153410?s=20
    Yes as I have said time and time again it is London and to a lesser extent the Home Counties where the home ownership problem is most acute, in most of the Midlands, the North and Wales and South West it is much less of an issue
    What this map says is that the UK is a retirement home, apart from Greater London, Liverpool, Manchester, Cardiff and Southampton.
    Helpfully, the map was also done by constituency.

    https://twitter.com/undertheraedar/status/1611346953673097216?t=enhoL1XY4XgcwhshrAwuSQ&s=19
  • Coffee, Tea and Pee? - Whizzing Though the Skies with Air India AND Wells Fargo!

    Seattle Times ($) - Wells Fargo VP fired, arrested for allegedly urinating on woman on flight

    An [vice president] at Wells Fargo’s operations in India was fired and is being held following allegations that he urinated on an elderly woman during a flight from New York to New Delhi.

    The man, Shankar Mishra, was arrested in Bangalore by New Delhi police on Saturday, said Suman Nalwa, a police spokeswoman. A judge in New Delhi ordered him to be held in prison for 14 days because he was considered a flight risk, Nalwa said. . . .

    “He unzipped his pants and urinated on me and kept standing there until the person sitting next to me tapped him and told him to go back to his seat,” said the woman, who was seated in business class one row behind Mishra, according to the report. . . . .

    Mishra’s attorneys, Ishanee Sharma and Akshat Bajpai, said in a statement that Mishra “does not remember the details of the incident.” They added that Mishra was “very apologetic and respectful” toward the woman “when he woke up from his sleep” on the plane.

    The two had reached an agreement for Mishra to pay for the woman’s belongings to be cleaned, the lawyers said, and Mishra paid her on Nov. 28. But the woman returned the money on Dec. 19, “which clearly reflects a malicious afterthought,” the lawyers said.

    Wells Fargo said in a statement to the Hindu, a local publication in India, that it found the allegations “deeply disturbing” and that Mishra had been terminated. . . .

    India’s aviation regulator, the Directorate General of Civil Aviation, said the airline’s conduct “appears to be unprofessional.” . . .

    “Air India acknowledges that it could have handled these matters better, both in the air and on the ground,” . . . The crew on the Nov. 26 flight has been removed from the airline’s roster, he said, adding that internal investigations were ongoing over alcohol service and how employees handled the incident. . . .

    According to the report, the woman said that her clothes, shoes and bag were “soaked in urine,” . . .

    She requested another seat but was told none was available. After she refused to sit in her soiled seat, the woman said, she was given a jump seat – a small seat meant for short-term use by crew – for the remainder of the flight.

    Another passenger “who had witnessed my plight” noted that it appeared there were seats open in first class, but the crew informed her that the pilot had “vetoed giving me a seat in first class.”

    SSI - Don't know about Air India, but IMHO the Wells Fargo land-piracy conspiracy richly deserves ALL the bad press it is capable of generating. Which appears to be virtually infinite.

    AND must say the Wells Fargo Vice President and Chief Piss-ant, must have hired a lawyer who is a proud graduate of the Rudy Giuliani School of Law AND Comic Relief.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,437

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    I don't think he'll destroy the monarchy, but this has made me realise there's really no theoretical trashy 'low' that the Sussex's won't go to. The Jungle beckons.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Perhaps the difference is that Charles didn't try to blame everyone else for his failings? Or indeed, suggest that his quite privileged life was some kind of post apocalyptic hellscape.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Isn't that the hypocrisy of the tabloid media rather than the Royals?
  • What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269
    edited January 2023

    I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
    ... and we're back to church architecture. Though doing anything on a niche would be uncomfortable and dangerous, I would have thought.

    YURI - There are a lot of alcoves in the Koningin Astrid Park. You use this word, 'Alcoves'?
    KEN - Alcoves? Yes. Sometimes.
    YORI - There are not many people around in these alcoves in Christmastime. If I were to murder a man, I would murder him here. Are you sure this is the right word, 'Alcoves'?
    KEN - Alcoves, yes. Kind of like 'Nooks and crannies'
    YURI - 'Nooks and crannies', yes. Perhaps this would be more accurate. 'Nooks and crannies'. Rather than 'Alcoves'. Yes.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,652

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    Not on the poll posted just now
    Most politicians would kill for favourability ratings of

    77+ve/15-ve William
    60+ve/28-ve Charles
    Of course, but they became politicians because they want power over people's lives, which is an automatic -50.
  • What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv

    Does Tinder not work in Oxford?
  • What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv

    Does Tinder not work in Oxford?
    I'm guessing it is a place teeming with incels.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
  • Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Isn't that the hypocrisy of the tabloid media rather than the Royals?
    Both.
  • Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Prince Harry’s net favourability has fallen to a record low, -38%, according to latest
    @YouGov poll.

    64% have a negative view of the Duke of Sussex.

    26% hold a positive view.

    Prince Harry's score among 18-24-year-olds has fallen to 0 (his lowest ever with this age group)
    https://twitter.com/CameronDLWalker/status/1612414468851437568?s=20&t=AeK0dzbPqizZeSmico685g

    They are quite wrong about this. The monarchy's problem is excessive wokeness: you have these epically thick male retards who come with the superpower of making you queen of the UK if you play your cards right. The only solution is the old rule that royalty marries royalty who are used to and unexcited by all that. Throw it open and you end up where we are now, with three female witches scrapping about precedence. I never believed that the enemy was the press, or anonymous courtiers, but I absolutely buy the theory it is ghastly Camilla and even ghastlier Kate
    I think you are on the right track here, albeit with the slight whiff of misogyny in the women are the ones to blame (and I think Meghan completes the trio)
    I did say 3. The women are the more active participants because the men sit passively at the top of the greasy pole and the women do the work to reach them

    I do quite genuinely think that Charles and Camilla s treatment of Diana was as close as you can get to absolute evil without heading up Treblinka.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    Foxy said:

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
    No, not really.

    When the late Queen was alive, the monarchy proper was able to exist, impeachless, at the centre of the constitution.

    All of the gossip and silliness surrounded ancillary royals, not the Queen herself.

    Now the King is taking direct hits from his son, and the entire construct is demeaned and diminished. I’d add that Harry’s issues also somehow betray an essential tawdry contempt for the public in a way that previous scandals did not.
    Yes but the Queen reflected her generation, stiff upper lip, no emotion, public service and duty first.

    The younger generation just reflect their generation, who are generally gossipy with shorter attention spans, glamourous celeb and social media obsessed. Even Charles came from a generation with far more divorce than his parents'
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,269

    What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv

    Does Tinder not work in Oxford?
    Someone saw "The Social Network" on Netflix and thought the "Elite University Only" idea was the one to copy???!!?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv

    Does Tinder not work in Oxford?
    I'm guessing it is a place teeming with incels.
    As long as it's not oxen.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    Scott_xP said:

    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

    We're so excited to bring you real-time views from @SpaceCornwall via our mission livestream! Follow along for live tweets as we break through major launch milestones. Learn more about our mission to space and watch the livestream: https://virg.in/J8hC

    I was going to go and watch but it isn't a real vertical launch, it's a 747 taking off from a runway. Whoopee doo.
    It does have a rocket strapped to it...

    Mission Control looks like a Portacabin

    It's marvellously lo fi

    Any thing the Yanks can do, we can do cheaper...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404
    Norville "Shaggy" Rogers, Fred Jones, Velma Dinkley, and Daphne Blake.
    The dog is Scoobert Doo.
    There is only one dog of course.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited January 2023
    This is interesting.
    Covid was perhaps the beginning of the end for yellow cabs, or is it because nobody travels downtown anymore?

    I’m very skeptical of the “London/New York etc is back” idea. The Monday to Friday economy is dead and I don’t think it’s returning.


  • Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

    We're so excited to bring you real-time views from @SpaceCornwall via our mission livestream! Follow along for live tweets as we break through major launch milestones. Learn more about our mission to space and watch the livestream: https://virg.in/J8hC

    I was going to go and watch but it isn't a real vertical launch, it's a 747 taking off from a runway. Whoopee doo.
    It does have a rocket strapped to it...

    Mission Control looks like a Portacabin

    It's marvellously lo fi

    Any thing the Yanks can do, we can do cheaper...
    And better
  • Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Yes, but Harry'n'Meg did the really unfogivable thing, not playing the British monarchy-meida complex game any more. They're playing a different media game instead, which is undignified but up to them.

    The worst thing you can say to a Briton is "you're not actually that important".
  • Foxy said:

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    That's fine. The point of the Monarchy is to be a soap opera to provide entertainment to the masses. Harry and Meghan are the pantomime baddies in this chapter.
    Oh no they're not!
    He's behind you!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404

    I see senior parliamentarians have gone postal on the Palace of Westminster restoration and renewal project today.

    About bloody time. Place is falling to bits and a death trap.

    If someone truly went “postal” at Westminster my money would be on professional wig-fancier, Michael Fabricant.
    It took me nearly 40 years ago to realise Patrick Clifton was Postman Pat's real name.

    Sounds like someone who should be MP for Stroud.
    Wait until you learn that Velma from Scooby Doo’s surname is “Dinkley” and that, according to the new movie coming out this year, she is a lesbian.
    I'm sure I've seen a niche film like that about Velma being a lesbian with Daphne.
    I may have seen that film.
    At the very least both were definitely bisexuals.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664

    What a fucking third rate dump the University of Oxford is.

    A dating website for Oxford University students has been accused of breaching student and staff privacy after revealing the name of everyone with a university email address.

    “OxShag”, set up anonymously by a group of students, promised to help “overworked and undersexed” students find “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”.

    It claimed to be a matchmaking service for Oxford students, but students have said that it breached their privacy by making public the entire university directory.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/oxford-dating-website-posts-staff-and-students-contact-details-f5zgznrxv

    “bookworms with benefits, coursemates keeping it casual, nerds with no strings attached”

    That's totally outrageous. Where's the 'and' after the Oxford comma?
  • Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Perhaps the difference is that Charles didn't try to blame everyone else for his failings? Or indeed, suggest that his quite privileged life was some kind of post apocalyptic hellscape.
    He didn't reveal that he continued to shag his scrubber right up to his wedding night. And this "privileged life" stuff is nonsensical. Does none of Shakespearian or Greek tragedy resonate with you at all, because yebbut at the end of the day these guys is all posho kings living in really nice palaces?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
    As young people now want a monarchical family who look like William and Kate or to a lesser extent Harry and Meghan, who are basically horsey Kardashians. The dull and ugly can stick to Parliament (as long as they avoid No 10 where you also need to be glamorous and good looking like Blair and Cameron and Sunak or at least charismatic like Boris rather than dull and dutiful like say May or Brown or Howard to win most general elections).

    If you had absolute monarchy again then the public don't get a say anyway so you don't need horsey Khardasians to appeal to them, albeit it runs a risk of revolution
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,437

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

    We're so excited to bring you real-time views from @SpaceCornwall via our mission livestream! Follow along for live tweets as we break through major launch milestones. Learn more about our mission to space and watch the livestream: https://virg.in/J8hC

    I was going to go and watch but it isn't a real vertical launch, it's a 747 taking off from a runway. Whoopee doo.
    It does have a rocket strapped to it...

    Mission Control looks like a Portacabin

    It's marvellously lo fi

    Any thing the Yanks can do, we can do cheaper...
    And better
    Except I think their's is the cheap service as it takes up loads of satellites at a time.

    But I think they're marketing Cornwall as the bespoke service because it can go up at a precise time that the client wants.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    live stream of the Virgin launch from Cornwall

    We're so excited to bring you real-time views from @SpaceCornwall via our mission livestream! Follow along for live tweets as we break through major launch milestones. Learn more about our mission to space and watch the livestream: https://virg.in/J8hC

    I was going to go and watch but it isn't a real vertical launch, it's a 747 taking off from a runway. Whoopee doo.
    It does have a rocket strapped to it...
    .
    I bet you say that to all the boys.

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,359
    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Quite right! If you were 60, but your teeth were only 10 years old, your knees 5 years old and your hips only 3 years old, nobody would argue that you were less than 60.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,668
    edited January 2023
    Deleted, accidental post...
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717
    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    when their self-image is shining wits

  • Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    The scale and grandeur of the Cornwall space launch can only truly be appreciated on the massively pixelated webcam image that refreshes every couple of seconds.

    Majestic
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404
    edited January 2023
    Extra geekery.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    I'm a Scooby Doo completist.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Middle names.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    Scooby does tho
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,668
    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Middle names.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    Scooby does tho
    I assume Scr*ppy has been disowned?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
    HRH Queen Consort now to you
  • Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    You are literally psychopathic if you look at what Harry's father and stepmother did to his mother and say "whining shits."

    I mean literally.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
    As young people now want a monarchical family who look like William and Kate or to a lesser extent Harry and Meghan, who are basically horsey Kardashians. The dull and ugly can stick to Parliament (as long as they avoid No 10 where you also need to be glamorous and good looking like Blair and Cameron and Sunak or at least charismatic like Boris rather than dull and dutiful like say May or Brown or Howard to win most general elections).

    If you had absolute monarchy again then the public don't get a say anyway so you don't need horsey Khardasians to appeal to them, albeit it runs a risk of revolution
    I think that's confirmed it everyone, HYUFD has totally lost coherence now.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717
    Scott_xP said:

    The scale and grandeur of the Cornwall space launch can only truly be appreciated on the massively pixelated webcam image that refreshes every couple of seconds.

    Majestic

    Albert Gristle, Britain's first man in space.


    p.s. this was my first Private Eye. Memories eh!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Middle names.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    Scooby does tho
    I assume Scr*ppy has been disowned?
    The Prince Harry of the franchise...
  • Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
    But then just like Harry and Meghan, you are yesterday's man. The future is Die Hard every Christmas Eve and an enduring friendship with our great TransManche allies the French.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Middle names.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    Scooby does tho
    I assume Scr*ppy has been disowned?
    Scrappy Cornelius Doo.
    But we don't really talk about that.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    edited January 2023

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
    As young people now want a monarchical family who look like William and Kate or to a lesser extent Harry and Meghan, who are basically horsey Kardashians. The dull and ugly can stick to Parliament (as long as they avoid No 10 where you also need to be glamorous and good looking like Blair and Cameron and Sunak or at least charismatic like Boris rather than dull and dutiful like say May or Brown or Howard to win most general elections).

    If you had absolute monarchy again then the public don't get a say anyway so you don't need horsey Khardasians to appeal to them, albeit it runs a risk of revolution
    I think that's confirmed it everyone, HYUFD has totally lost coherence now.
    I haven't, the public want glamorous celebs to be their head of state and their PM, generally most general elections are won by the most good looking, glamorous and charismatic leader now.

    If you want to avoid horsey Khardasians then absolute monarchy is the only way, indeed if the heir to the throne was the son of Charles and Camilla rather than Charles and Diana (in turn whose son's mother is the glamorous Kate) then absolute monarchy may have been the only way for Camilla to keep her dynasty with Charles going! Charles could then appoint as dull but serious a PM as he wanted as his chief minister too
  • HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
    HRH Queen Consort now to you
    I love low rent snobs who fail even on their own terms.

    HM.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
    As young people now want a monarchical family who look like William and Kate or to a lesser extent Harry and Meghan, who are basically horsey Kardashians. The dull and ugly can stick to Parliament (as long as they avoid No 10 where you also need to be glamorous and good looking like Blair and Cameron and Sunak or at least charismatic like Boris rather than dull and dutiful like say May or Brown or Howard to win most general elections).

    If you had absolute monarchy again then the public don't get a say anyway so you don't need horsey Khardasians to appeal to them, albeit it runs a risk of revolution
    I think that's confirmed it everyone, HYUFD has totally lost coherence now.
    I haven't, the public want glamorous celebs to be their head of state and their PM, generally most general elections are won by the most good looking, glamorous and charismatic leader.

    If you want to avoid horsey Khardasians then absolute monarchy is the only way, indeed if the heir to the throne was the son of Charles and Camilla rather than Charles and Diana (in turn whose son's mother is the glamorous Kate) then absolute monarchy may have been the only way for Camilla to keep her dynasty with Charles going!
    I rest my case.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    The Virgin launch stream has peaked now

    Grant Shaaaaaps, live from his basement
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    I'm a Scooby Doo completist.

    You are the caretaker of the abandoned funfair and I claim my £5.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    I'm a Scooby Doo completist.

    You are the caretaker of the abandoned funfair and I claim my £5.
    Oh God!
    I wish.
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    Ok now please explain why if constitutional monarchs aren't horsey Kardashians, they would have to be absolute monarchs.
    As young people now want a monarchical family who look like William and Kate or to a lesser extent Harry and Meghan, who are basically horsey Kardashians. The dull and ugly can stick to Parliament (as long as they avoid No 10 where you also need to be glamorous and good looking like Blair and Cameron and Sunak or at least charismatic like Boris rather than dull and dutiful like say May or Brown or Howard to win most general elections).

    If you had absolute monarchy again then the public don't get a say anyway so you don't need horsey Khardasians to appeal to them, albeit it runs a risk of revolution
    I think that's confirmed it everyone, HYUFD has totally lost coherence now.
    I haven't, the public want glamorous celebs to be their head of state and their PM, generally most general elections are won by the most good looking, glamorous and charismatic leader.

    If you want to avoid horsey Khardasians then absolute monarchy is the only way, indeed if the heir to the throne was the son of Charles and Camilla rather than Charles and Diana (in turn whose son's mother is the glamorous Kate) then absolute monarchy may have been the only way for Camilla to keep her dynasty with Charles going!
    I rest my case.
    @HYUFD is a unique contributor in many respects and so are quite a few of his views
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659

    Part of me believes that Harry has destroyed the monarchy now.

    If the monarchy are simply horsey Kardashians, they cannot be heads of state.

    It's the hypocrisy of the Royals and their sycophants that boils my piss.

    When Charles did a massive interview and book that announced to the nation he was an adulterer and had betrayed his wife and disses his family he's cool, when Prince Harry does a book and interview then he gets nothing but opprobrium.
    Perhaps the difference is that Charles didn't try to blame everyone else for his failings? Or indeed, suggest that his quite privileged life was some kind of post apocalyptic hellscape.
    He didn't reveal that he continued to shag his scrubber right up to his wedding night. And this "privileged life" stuff is nonsensical. Does none of Shakespearian or Greek tragedy resonate with you at all, because yebbut at the end of the day these guys is all posho kings living in really nice palaces?
    Charles first met Diana when she was 16, got engaged when she was 19, and she gave birth to William before her 21st birthday, while he continued his long running affair with Camilla.

    Not much older than Virginia Giuffre, but I suppose Diana at least got a ring out of it.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,359

    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
    I remember when Harry and Meghan were hugely popular. But, the more they revealed themselves, the less that people liked them.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,659
    edited January 2023

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    I'm a Scooby Doo completist.

    You are the caretaker of the abandoned funfair and I claim my £5.
    He would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,404
    Had an Inset day today.
    A brutal reminder of just how dull and long a day is without mischievous kids causing havoc.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,359
    edited January 2023

    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    You are literally psychopathic if you look at what Harry's father and stepmother did to his mother and say "whining shits."

    I mean literally.
    Weird definition of psychopathic. Given that you earlier compared it to sending people to Treblinka, your views on this issue seem pretty bonkers.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    That's funny because I thought you were arguing about the definition of fabric before you put the goalposts on wheels.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Extra geekery.
    Frederick Herman Jones.
    Velma Dace Dinkley.
    Daphne Ann Blake.
    Shaggy has no middle name.

    I'm a Scooby Doo completist.

    You are the caretaker of the abandoned funfair and I claim my £5.
    He would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.
    dixiedean said:

    Had an Inset day today.
    A brutal reminder of just how dull and long a day is without mischievous kids causing havoc.

    That is class post stacking there.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    Rushi's problem is that he is not a true HighSparrow believer. He's probably as pragmatic as Starmer, and probably believes now that Brixit was a pile of horseshit..like anyone else with half a brain...

    But what can he do? He's got the ERG and some fucking ideological Notrights holding a gun to his head, and the spectre of the obese, loathsome, psychopath Johnson breathing over him if he fucks up, which is more than likely.

    Turning it around is really not an option for Sunak. Survival is the only game in town. It's the 4th Innings of a Test Match. His target ia 650...he's lost 4 men, there are 2 days left of clement conditions...he's only looking at holding out at one over at a time....and hoping for a miracle....

  • Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei.

    Harry and Meghan are less popular even than the current government. The public see them as whining shits.

    I remember when the adulteress and husband stealer Camilla Parker Bowles was as popular Myra Hindley.
    I remember when Harry and Meghan were hugely popular. But, the more they revealed themselves, the less that people liked them.
    But you learn about Charles's and Camilla's behaviour before and during his marriage and you think yeah cool? Truly remarkable.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,962
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    I'm disappointed the fabric controversy has petered out. Come on HYUFD don't let ydoethur and Big G off the hook so lightly.

    Now where did I put that spoon.

    I didn't, as I posted earlier
    'The only cases of a Medieval church becoming a Victorian church would be if the original Medieval church completely burnt down or was demolished and a new one was built in its place by the Victorians, like my parents' church
    https://speldhurstchurch.org/about/building/history/'
    That's funny because I thought you were arguing about the definition of fabric before you put the goalposts on wheels.
    I was arguing we still have Medieval Churches unlike Ydeothur who argued because of fabric changes they are apparently all Victorian
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